Game economy

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Maf, I know you have a history of trying to avoid cognitive dissonance(you probably don't understand that so look it up in the dictionary) but please let me explain. You and I both know that the P2W in TO has to do with the game economy, which is waht the post is called.

P2W has to do with the economy. Whether the game is P2W or not is a different question. I fail to see where cognitive dissonance is involved. Maf can merge an opinion on game economy into the correct thread without actually agreeing with that opinion. 

 

And Maf, you are notorious for loving buyers, so bad monkeys' statement where he said you bury stuff you hate actually holds some weight in this matter because you wouldn't want F2P people to gain any ground in the forums.

How is that burying things? These "I'm leaving Tanki because I hate buyers" threads have popped up in the forum over and over and over again. It's nothing new or constructive. If anything it just draws more attention to this thread. The "Magnum and why it should be nerfed" thread became very popular in part due to the mods merging complaints about Magnum into it.

[RevengeAttacker 217]

Mission chains, missions itself, containers, battle funds, all of these make so much crystals, and drugs. Now try this.

Use your drugs in normal battles to do missions. Then after play pro battles.

If you do that, you'll have more than 1k supply of everything, except rk

I have 260K btw

Edited April 14, 2018 by RevengeAttacker

[Maf 32,300]

So he did nothing wrong Maf, the P2W nature of tanki IS the economy, hence the word "Pay" is in it, tell me maf, what does that NOT have to do with the economy?

I never said that he did something wrong. The only thing that was wrong is that he posted a new topic when there are plenty of existing topics where such a post would have been more fitting. Hence why the post got moved here. I admit that it would have been more fitting in the Complaint Book, so if you really want to, I can move your post over there, if it means that we'll end this pointless argument.

[mr.bryant 36]

I never said that he did something wrong. The only thing that was wrong is that he posted a new topic when there are plenty of existing topics where such a post would have been more fitting. Hence why the post got moved here. I admit that it would have been more fitting in the Complaint Book, so if you really want to, I can move your post over there, if it means that we'll end this pointless argument.

Oh hold on a second, he posted a new topic in game discussion entirely? That makes sense then, and I would prefer if you didn't put this in the complaint book, thanks for the clarification maf.

[shafter9 156]

I like the economy, it rewards certain behavior and allows you to dominate over economic noobs. The drugging is a problem. Tanki X has phased it out. I prefer Tanki's graphics, upgrade system, economics and feel but Tanki X's modules and lack of supplies. Tanki X gets its money from selling visual modifications instead of selling pure playing power. The addition of skins to TO will quite possibly enable a shift away from drugs.

[RevengeAttacker 217]

I like the economy, it rewards certain behavior and allows you to dominate over economic noobs. The drugging is a problem. Tanki X has phased it out. I prefer Tanki's graphics, upgrade system, economics and feel but Tanki X's modules and lack of supplies. Tanki X gets its money from selling visual modifications instead of selling pure playing power. The addition of skins to TO will quite possibly enable a shift away from drugs.

So you think tx is better?

[wolverine848 13,097]

I like the economy, it rewards certain behavior and allows you to dominate over economic noobs. The drugging is a problem. Tanki X has phased it out. I prefer Tanki's graphics, upgrade system, economics and feel but Tanki X's modules and lack of supplies. Tanki X gets its money from selling visual modifications instead of selling pure playing power. The addition of skins to TO will quite possibly enable a shift away from drugs.

Tanki-X allows you to buy Blueprints with $ - which are the be-all and end-all to how powerful your tank is.

 

Blueprints are Tanki's supplies - extra armor, extra damage, speed, mines, etc. 

And they never run out - only have a cool-down - something familiar here... ;)

 

So you think tx is better?

Not in the least.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Tanki-X allows you to buy Blueprints with $ - which are the be-all and end-all to how powerful your tank is.

 

Blueprints are Tanki's supplies - extra armor, extra damage, speed, mines, etc. 

And they never run out - only have a cool-down - something familiar here... ;)

Modules are supplies, but more interesting. Regardless, they are a core part of the game mechanics - everyone is expected to have them, and everyone is expected to use them. Once you have a module, you can use it forever, so it's not like drugs in TO where buyers have tens of thousands stockpiled. Blueprints are used to upgrade modules.

 

Now TX does have a problem currently in that obtaining blueprints for high level modules requires you to rank up to the gold league in order to obtain them - unless of course you just buy them. A lot of people argue that you can dominate bronze and silver league battles with those high tier modules you unlocked bought, although I disagree. Either way, the imbalance between low and high tier modules is still nothing compared to TO's difference between equipment levels and supplies.

 

And I think the module problem is not so much a problem of modules themselves but of the MM system. MM often places you with ranks much higher or lower than your, which obviously results in problems.

Edited April 16, 2018 by ThirdOnion

[mr.bryant 36]

Ok well, are we all on board that one of us should put up a suggestion to have adds and less buyer advantage, and possibly to nerf drugs more?

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

 

Modules are supplies, but more interesting. Regardless, they are a core part of the game mechanics - everyone is expected to have them, and everyone is expected to use them. Once you have a module, you can use it forever, so it's not like drugs in TO where buyers have tens of thousands stockpiled. Blueprints are used to upgrade modules.

 

Now TX does have a problem currently in that obtaining blueprints for high level modules requires you to rank up to the gold league in order to obtain them - unless of course you just buy them. A lot of people argue that you can dominate bronze and silver league battles with those high tier modules you unlocked bought, although I disagree. Either way, the imbalance between low and high tier modules is still nothing compared to TO's difference between equipment levels and supplies.

 

 

 

And I think the module problem is not so much a problem of modules themselves but of the MM system. MM often places you with ranks much higher or lower than your, which obviously results in problems.

I was too lazy to go into that much detail. :ph34r:

 

The Tier 3 modules are very powerful and offer a large advantage - if upgraded enough.  Example Extra Mag - being able to reload rail or an empty Hammer magazine immediately can do wonders.

 

But yes - the tier 3 modules are usually equipped by those in higher ranks (and buyers) which - due to lack of players - can end up playing against the lower ranked players. 

 

I fear Tanki-O will follow this (terrible) method.  VLOG indicated teams may be balanced - but they made it sound like there could be a mix of high-ranked and low-ranked players on each team.  Sucks for the lower ranks who will still get nothing - even if on winning team.

 

Ok well, are we all on board that one of us should put up a suggestion to have adds and less buyer advantage, and possibly to nerf drugs more?

Would be nice - but - that would be a pipe-dream.

[Badmonkey66 12]

The text you posted does not encourage an interesting discussion. We got dozens of topics just like yours over the years - in every single one the comments are the same. So by posting the same thing that has been discussed many times before you aren't adding any useful contribution to the section, which is why your post was moved to a more appropriate topic (or "buried", as you say).

You get 100's of stupid posts about "whats your favorite" or even worse "paint type posts" that also isn't interesting or stimulate good discussions but you leave those in place!

 

Are Moderators supposed to decide whats interesting and whats not or are they around to enforce forum rules?  Is this a Maf forum or a tanki forum?  BTW that's how forums generally work with pointless posts falling to the bottom and quickly being ignored when no one reply's.  You censoring what you like and don't like isn't really a forum its a "what Maf likes" blog. 

[Badmonkey66 12]

Mission chains, missions itself, containers, battle funds, all of these make so much crystals, and drugs. Now try this.

Use your drugs in normal battles to do missions. Then after play pro battles.

If you do that, you'll have more than 1k supply of everything, except rk

I have 260K btw

As a non-buyer how exactly do i play in pro battles? 

[Maf 32,300]

You get 100's of stupid posts about "whats your favorite" or even worse "paint type posts" that also isn't interesting or stimulate good discussions but you leave those in place!

If a similar topic already exists and isn't archived, then such topics get merged as well.

[mr.bryant 36]

You get 100's of stupid posts about "whats your favorite" or even worse "paint type posts" that also isn't interesting or stimulate good discussions but you leave those in place!

 

Are Moderators supposed to decide whats interesting and whats not or are they around to enforce forum rules?  Is this a Maf forum or a tanki forum?  BTW that's how forums generally work with pointless posts falling to the bottom and quickly being ignored when no one reply's.  You censoring what you like and don't like isn't really a forum its a "what Maf likes" blog. 

Whoa hold on there, the reason that he merged your post was because there was already a topic about what you were talking about, which is this one. The suggestions place might be like a "what maf likes blog" but in all reality he does the best he can, the ONLY reason he merged your post was because this one would work for that topic.

 

As a non-buyer how exactly do i play in pro battles? 

Just saying, I know the game's economy is trash, but you should at least be able to afford a pro-battle pass.

[Hancho 3,902]

As a non-buyer how exactly do i play in pro battles? 

You don't need to be a buyer in order to get Pro battle each month. Just play battles and earn your way up, also you get free crystals from weekly chain. 

[Badmonkey66 12]

If a similar topic already exists and isn't archived, then such topics get merged as well.

Hahahahhaah now that's funny!  Do you make this up as you go along or just pretend you are truthful? 

[Guest]

Hahahahhaah now that's funny!  Do you make this up as you go along or just pretend you are truthful? 

What maf said was simple logic... can't believe there are people who can't understand that. 

You can't afford a pro pass?  :lol: As a fellow non-buyer, that's only 2-3k crys per month. You should be able to make much more than that for your rank. 

 

 

Just as an observation that most of the people are low rankers.... could that say somthing?

Edited April 17, 2018 by Guest

[Badmonkey66 12]

What maf said was simple logic... can't believe there are people who can't understand that. 

You can't afford a pro pass?  :lol: As a fellow non-buyer, that's only 2-3k crys per month. You should be able to make much more than that for your rank. 

 

 

Just as an observation that most of the people are low rankers.... could that say somthing?

Many of us have multiple accounts btw.  Keep spending your crystals on pro-pass's and that's how you end up equipment poor. 

 

I also have a life so playing 7 days in row to get containers isn't a option and i'd shoot myself if i ever did. 

 

Just a observation but is spell check broken or you just choose to ignore it? 

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Many of us have multiple accounts btw.  Keep spending your crystals on pro-pass's and that's how you end up equipment poor. 

I have a Captain account. PRO pass costs 3200 crystals there, which means it costs somewhere around 3000 crystals for you. Are you telling us that you will go broke if you spend 3000 crystals per month? 

[Potdindy 866]

Honestly if you save for hornet/rail m2 kit you can play xpbp all day for free and easily make enough crystals to cover your pass

[wolverine848 13,097]

Many of us have multiple accounts btw.  Keep spending your crystals on pro-pass's and that's how you end up equipment poor. 

 

I also have a life so playing 7 days in row to get containers isn't a option and i'd shoot myself if i ever did. 

 

Just a observation but is spell check broken or you just choose to ignore it? 

You don't have to play 7 days in a row.

 

Complete 3 missions on the day you can play.  claim ONE  mission that day.  Log in next day, claim ONE mission then log out. repeat.

[Guest]

Many of us have multiple accounts btw.  Keep spending your crystals on pro-pass's and that's how you end up equipment poor. 

 

Corrected your grammar: I also have a life so playing 7 days in row to get containers isn't a option and I'd shoot myself if i ever did. 

 

Just a observation but is your spellcheck broken or do you just choose to ignore it? 

I couldn't resist laughing at your stupid comment.  :lol: That's 3000 crystals PER MONTH you dummy! You should be making much more than that per month.

 

You say my spellchecker is broken? What a hypocrite.  <_<

 

EDIT: I Just checked your profile and your equipment and K/D is better than mine, so shouldn't I be complaining? 

Edited April 18, 2018 by Guest

[RevengeAttacker 217]

Many of us have multiple accounts btw. Keep spending your crystals on pro-pass's and that's how you end up equipment poor.

 

I also have a life so playing 7 days in row to get containers isn't a option and i'd shoot myself if i ever did.

 

Just a observation but is spell check broken or you just choose to ignore it?

Lol? You cannot afford a pro pass? Lol again

You don't have to play 7 days in a row.

 

Complete 3 missions on the day you can play. claim ONE mission that day. Log in next day, claim ONE mission then log out. repeat.

I.K.R.

[Badmonkey66 12]

I couldn't resist laughing at your stupid comment. :lol: That's 3000 crystals PER MONTH you dummy! You should be making much more than that per month.

 

You say my spellchecker is broken? What a hypocrite. <_<

 

EDIT: I Just checked your profile and your equipment and K/D is better than mine, so shouldn't I be complaining?

Its not "you're" you clown as its (possessive adjective), before you correct someone get your crap straight! So you hypocrite go pound sand!

 

As i mentioned i have a life so i don't play daily and can't predict when i do play so no i dont buy pro pass's

 

Lol? You cannot afford a pro pass? Lol again
I.K.R.

Lol, nice garage thanks for making my point! ahahahahha

 

Again, i work a real job with travel and i'm sure the hell not logging in on the weekends.

[Guest]

It's not "you're" you clown as its (possessive adjective), before you correct someone get your crap straight! So you hypocrite go pound sand!

 

As I mentioned i have a life so I don't play daily and can't predict when I do play so no I don't buy pro pass.

 

Lol, nice garage thanks for making my point! ahahahahha

 

(You did not state that you worked a real job in the first place, so using "again" doesn't really work that well. It's your choice though) Again, I work a real job with travel and I'm sure the hell not logging in on the weekends. 

 

Fix your grammar first.  ;)

Also, be calm when you type. It will work wonders.

Edited April 19, 2018 by Guest