Hull differences

[Potdindy 866]

Alright so I know there is the "what to buy" thread which deals with some of this, but I'm not thinking of buying. I have found that at the m3 level, hulls of similar weight have the same hp. My question is this: Lots of people use viking or dictator but not hunter. What are the pro's and cons of each of these if they have the same health. The same goes for Titan and Mammoth. Is there a reason to use dictator bsides getting golds? Whenever I look around for info I hear crap like "Dictator is a big target which is bad" or "Viking is stable", but neither of those are really relevant to many games. Apparently some ppl think Titan looks bad, so is that the only reason to use mammoth? What does hunter have over the others?

[wolverine848 13,097]

Alright so I know there is the "what to buy" thread which deals with some of this, but I'm not thinking of buying. I have found that at the m3 level, hulls of similar weight have the same hp. My question is this: Lots of people use viking or dictator but not hunter. What are the pro's and cons of each of these if they have the same health. The same goes for Titan and Mammoth. Is there a reason to use dictator bsides getting golds? Whenever I look around for info I hear crap like "Dictator is a big target which is bad" or "Viking is stable", but neither of those are really relevant to many games. Apparently some ppl think Titan looks bad, so is that the only reason to use mammoth? What does hunter have over the others?

Viking is fastest medium hull, but also the lightest = less stability.

Hunter is slower than Viking but has more weight and power = more stable

Dictator is even slower but has even more weight and power = most stable.   So depends on what you find important.

 

Also keep in mind they will all have different OverDrives when they are finally implemented.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

I actually wished that they never made the hulls the way they are statwise in the rebalance update of October 2016. If they had left the hulls the way they were back then, and release the hulls over drives, the hulls would be very unique and different from one another. But they decided to mess with something that was never broken to begin with, and that's why we have the crap we have today.

 

But it's life and we just have to deal with it.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Dictator is in a really bad spot right now, in my opinion. It is slow and a huge target. The extra stability isn't really worth it; Hunter can do pretty much the same thing while being more versatile.

[Potdindy 866]

So why do people seem to use dictator so much, at least at my level. And viking seems to be the most common of all

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

So why do people seem to use dictator so much, at least at my level. And viking seems to be the most common of all

No idea. Are they using M2 or M3?

[mhh.2000 888]

So why do people seem to use dictator so much, at least at my level. And viking seems to be the most common of all

(I will compare Dictator to Viking since they're both very common) 

I use dictator , it may seem like a big slow target but it's not, with dictator , you can hit targets so much higher or lower than you without having to climb up or fall down , other hulls (like Viking) don't have that luxury , or they might have it but it's just not as good and useful as Dictator .

there's also a bonus of being able to catch golds rather easily , but after the 10 seconds update you will most likely not even be able to find the gold (however if I find a gold It's usually mine)

note that with dictator you won't have to walk around teammates in order to shoot enemies , as you can shoot from above them , it bugs me how when I play with thunder and Viking , I end up shooting myself because of teammates standing in front of me , I never suffered from that with dictator

 

I used to hate dictator too , I used to have the same thoughts as any tanker "it's a stupid big hull that can't survive and do anything good" , the moment I started using it , that hatred instantly turned into love  and now I have it MUed to M3 which is something I will not regret

keep in mind that dictator is the worst possible option for playing DM ^_^ everyone will target you , not much of a problem for team modes though

[Maf 32,300]

I switched to Hunter after the recent controls update and I gotta say I do like it. Hunter doesn't get knocked around as much as Viking, and it's not so massive, therefore doesn't make such an easy target as Dictator. I think Hunter is actually the best medium hull right now, but its definitely a question of personal preference.

[GorgoBlesk 831]

There are also some differences in the turret position. Mammoth has the turret in front of the hull, Wasp and Dictator in the back and the others in the center. I think it makes a big difference, especially when camping.

[Shadowmaster2.o 125]

thx for reminding me why I like mammoth over titan.

[Hancho 3,902]

Viking has always been the main hull but tanki is keep on nerfing/buffing hulls so they all can be usable and useful for the game play. I still prefer viking because it's good looking and easy to control I guess. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

I switched to Hunter after the recent controls update and I gotta say I do like it. Hunter doesn't get knocked around as much as Viking, and it's not so massive, therefore doesn't make such an easy target as Dictator. I think Hunter is actually the best medium hull right now, but its definitely a question of personal preference.

Original account has always had Viking - then they did the rebalance after I upgraded to M3 :angry:

So I basically ended up with "old" hunter.

Devs should have given us the option to change it after that "bait-and-switch".

 

My alt account I've stuck with Hunter and am quite happy.  Good platform for Vulcan in mid-ranks.

[CooperO 7,956]

So why do people seem to use dictator so much, at least at my level. And viking seems to be the most common of all

Because 

[Potdindy 866]

Does the same apply to Mammoth Titan? Are choices either faster/less stable and slower but stronger

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Does the same apply to Mammoth Titan? Are choices either faster/less stable and slower but stronger

Mammoth is supposed to have better pushing power than Titan according to the Wiki and game stats, but due to hidden parameters Titan wins out for some reason. So the only advantage Mammoth has over Titan currently is stability.

[Hancho 3,902]

You can barely push titan but mammoth feels lighter and weaker even though I don't have it.  :ph34r:

[Potdindy 866]

So, I thought that mamoth was the slow, imoveable hull with higher armor, almost like a fort, while titan was a bit faster but lighter. Sounds like this is not correct

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

So, I thought that mamoth was the slow, imoveable hull with higher armor, almost like a fort, while titan was a bit faster but lighter. Sounds like this is not correct

It's how it used to be, a couple years ago. Sadly the devs decided to kill a large part of the variety between hulls.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

I feel like Viking is too light. It needs more weight. If you try playing with dictator, it feels 5x heavier than Viking, meanwhile Viking feels similar to the weight of Hornet.

That's the point; Viking trades stability and weight for speed.

[mhh.2000 888]

I feel like Viking is too light. It needs more weight. If you try playing with dictator, it feels 5x heavier than Viking, meanwhile Viking feels similar to the weight of Hornet. Hunter is ok, but I wish it was slightly higher height.

Viking vs Dictator

Viking : small but fast , not too much push power and light weight

Dictator : very big and slow , very powerful and heavy

 

dude ! Dictator is much , much bigger than Viking , how do you expect them to have a similar weight ?

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Physical size is different too.  Small hulls have routes and perches larger hulls cannot reach. Conversely bigger hulls are easier to see and hit. I cannot make myself play Dictator because a 12' tall tank is soooo easy to see and shoot.

 

Acceleration is also different but rarely discussed. Viking is not only the fastest medium hull it also accelerates best. This is needed for dancing with the enemy at close ranges.

 

 

Dictator is in a really bad spot right now, in my opinion. It is slow and a huge target. The extra stability isn't really worth it; Hunter can do pretty much the same thing while being more versatile.

Now in defense of Dictator it is a hard hull to disrupt with impact force.  I use the +impact smoky and even so the damn dictators often just absorb them like lumps. Titan weigh more but even they can be skewed more than Dictators by shooting at corners. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Even if you manage to hit a hunters corners, it wouldn't be enough anyway because it has the second fastest turn speed in the game.

 

It's also weird that hornet has more pushing power than Viking.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Even if you manage to hit a hunters corners, it wouldn't be enough anyway because it has the second fastest turn speed in the game.

 

It's also weird that hornet has more pushing power than Viking.

I can assure you that hitting a hunter in the corner will throw off its aim regardless of Hunter's turning speed.  Throwing off aim is a timing issue.

[mhh.2000 888]

It's also weird that hornet has more pushing power than Viking.

hunter has more power than titan , pushing power values for all hulls are not balanced 

[Hancho 3,902]

hunter has more power than titan , pushing power values for all hulls are not balanced 

Is this actually true? Last time I've got my titan moved by any hull was a long time ago, no way hunter can push titan.  :blink: