Episode 171 of the V-LOG has rolled out!

[Mickey_Nickz 589]

 

 

 

The drones and their power supply are all sold for crystals, not money. Given how easy it is to obtain crystals nowadays, I'm pretty sure any free player will be able to afford these drones with relative ease. So while the drones are meant to bring more revenue, they are not explicitly a P2W feature.

 

I don't know. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but personally I'm excited about addition of new features and gameplay mechanics. And I'm saying this not because I'm a helper an "get paid to praise developers".

 

 

They care a lot about old-timers, but they can't keep old things in the game forever just because some players love them so much. LGC modules are nice to use, but they are also inconvenient, unbalanced and generally unfair to new players. How would you feel if you started playing a different game and in it a bunch of people had powerful items which you can no longer buy, but they still have it because they bought it a few years ago?

 

You get compensation with batteries, just like all other normal modules.

 

That's a very unjustified assumption. The paint separation update happened almost two years ago. Devs added that system because they thought it was the best they could do with the game engine. in fact, I even remember one of them saying that they tried to implement custom modules and found out that it was impossible at the time.

 

Two years passed, and I'm sure they now have more experience and new technologies, so they figured out a way to do custom modules. And since custom modules are a far superior system, it's replacing the old system now. It's extremely unlikely that all this was planned for years to make players waste more crystals.

 

Legacy modules will also be converted to the new system and any extra duplicate protection will be compensated with batteries. Same goes for the extra crystals you spent on duplicate upgrades for XTs.

 

It's not like the only reason you bought the module is to get a compensation for it. You've been using those modules all these years, and I'm sure they proved very useful to you in battles and saved you many times. Now the game is changing, so old things have to come to an end.

 

A crystal compensation is economically impossible. Obviously players want free crystals, but if devs started giving out millions of crystals for the removed modules, the game's economy would crash.

 

 

like i said earlier i didn't spend my crystals to get some stupid batteries, i spent em to get modules. who's asking for free crystals? i am asking for my crystals which i spent to buy modules and MUs.

[Maf 32,300]

@Maf, Do you ever disagree with the board ? Does being a helper compels you to approve of anything development-wise ? Just wondering..

As a matter of fact I do. I've done so many times and posted constructive criticism about many updates in the past. I'm sure neither of us is willing to sift through all my posts, but if you want an example, here you go. I changed my mind about that particular update since then (mostly due to all the positive updates that compensated for it), but I still often disagree with some of the decisions.

 

I didnt quite get what the guy said, are we going to keep the highest % we have of a legacy module or not? 

Yes, the highest percentage gets taken out and converted into a separate protection.

 

how can you say that when we as long time players are loosing our legendary modules which we have worked hard for. to get what a drone that tell players where your located and see this ugly thing flying over head . its like putting on a huge red arrow above us , saying ,...PICK ME ..huge NOOB mistake  .. also why should you care when you get crystals and bonuses seeing your admin .  in the past when you were a normal player you did care . you were  not   all for the game in the past .I don't get it when the majority of players don't like  if I wanted to play with a drone then I would go battle in tanki X . leave that game out of this game.. OH wait did I not say it years ago that these two games will be joining in due time .. more they do these same up dates as in tankiX it surely looks to be happening .. in the near future , soon  to come..

You don't have to use those drones of you don't have to. I feel like they're quite an interesting addition and I definitely disagree about them giving out your position like a "huge red arrow in the sky".

 

I do still care about players, but I'm welcoming these updates because they make the game more interesting, more diverse and modernised, which should help bring in new players. Old-school and nostalgia is good to some extent, but dwelling on the past and not willing to move on in order to adapt to changing times is a bad approach to all this. I feel like devs are doing a pretty good job at converting Tanki to a new style slowly and gradually, so that old players can adapt to the change.

 

I realise that a lot of players spend a lot of money on it over the years, but unfortunately Tanki can't keep pleasing such players and doing everything in their favour. New players are equally (if not more) important, so the game must change in their favour as well.

 

As for TO becoming too much like TX - maybe you're right. But I honestly don't really mind that. They may es well just scrap TX completely and focus on adding cool stuff to TO only.

 

 

I always notice a tendency of moderators to react positively. Indeed, having formerly been a moderator we were not allowed to talk negatively. But please, have some empathy for those of us who aren't generously paid in crystals and who feel scammed when Tanki pulls stunts like this.

 

You just have to look at who like the original post - 90% mods. Back in the day with the dislike button such developments would have -100 downvotes.

See above comment. Mods sitting pretty anyway!

The reason you don't see me blindly hating this update is because I consider all parties when judging an update: the developers, the players, the newbies, the pros, the buyers, the free players, etc. I know that every update is made to benefit some of those parties while inevitably being a disadvantage for others. But that's just how game development works - you can't make everybody happy at once.

 

And it's good that people can't just give this topic a bunch of downvotes. It forces people to express their opinion in words, which helps developers understand exactly what players are unhappy about.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

I know what's going on, Tanki wants to scare us with drones into accepting and asking for Overdrives instead. Genius.

Edited May 25, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[Maf 32,300]

To everyone claiming that drones being a new P2W feature - I wouldn't jump to that conclusion just yet. Yes, it does make supplies more powerful and yes, it's a new consumable that can be bought and stockpiled, but don't forget that you will be able to get it for free from missions and other sources, so I'm sure that it will be just like all other supplies, meaning that if you don't play too much and complete all your missions, you will have plenty of batteries to use those drones non-stop.

[LUCIFER1_the_dark 1,230]

I know what's going on, Tanki wants to scare us with drones into accepting and asking for Overdrives instead. Genius.

 

This is so good. Where are the newish mods? I'm missing them.

The like was for the sarcasm xD

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

A crystal compensation is economically impossible. Obviously players want free crystals, but if devs started giving out millions of crystals for the removed modules, the game's economy would crash.

What about the crystals the players spent on modules in the first place??? Why can't they give us crystals? Were going to use them to buy new modules anyway.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

To everyone claiming that drones being a new P2W feature - I wouldn't jump to that conclusion just yet. Yes, it does make supplies more powerful and yes, it's a new consumable that can be bought and stockpiled, but don't forget that you will be able to get it for free from missions and other sources, so I'm sure that it will be just like all other supplies, meaning that if you don't play too much and complete all your missions, you will have plenty of batteries to use those drones non-stop.

what about the cost for buying and MUing those drones? right now m0 hunter + m0 smoky has to fight m2 smoky + m2 titan +m2 module+alteration+drugs... now we add a drone to the 2nd player? 

[Colonial_Marines 2]

how can you say that when we as long time players are loosing our legendary modules which we have worked hard for. to get what a drone that tell players where your located and see this ugly thing flying over head . its like putting on a huge red arrow above us , saying ,...PICK ME ..huge NOOB mistake  .. also why should you care when you get crystals and bonuses seeing your admin .  in the past when you were a normal player you did care . you were  not   all for the game in the past .I don't get it when the majority of players don't like  if I wanted to play with a drone then I would go battle in tanki X . leave that game out of this game.. OH wait did I not say it years ago that these two games will be joining in due time .. more they do these same up dates as in tankiX it surely looks to be happening .. in the near future , soon  to come..

......and one more thing: these drones or batteries what ever they are called are consumable while the legendary/legacy (and old) modules are not. That means our legendary/legacy modules will be "used" and "gone" in the future. This drones or batteries what even they are called are actually another add-on tank to the original one make to us to spend crystals to buy and upgrade. That is why they make it looks like we can earn more crystals before ranking up. How about not buying these drones or batteries what ever they are called? Most likely you will be beaten up badly, got spawn killed and what even you call.

Edited May 25, 2018 by Colonial_Marines

[Bydo 20,119]

 

You don't have to use those drones of you don't have to. I feel like they're quite an interesting addition and I definitely disagree about them giving out your position like a "huge red arrow in the sky".

 

I do still care about players, but I'm welcoming these updates because they make the game more interesting, more diverse and modernised, which should help bring in new players. Old-school and nostalgia is good to some extent, but dwelling on the past and not willing to move on in order to adapt to changing times is a bad approach to all this. I feel like devs are doing a pretty good job at converting Tanki to a new style slowly and gradually, so that old players can adapt to the change.

 

I realize that a lot of players spend a lot of money on it over the years, but unfortunately Tanki can't keep pleasing such players and doing everything in their favor. New players are equally (if not more) important, so the game must change in their favor as well.

 

As for TO becoming too much like TX - maybe you're right. But I honestly don't really mind that. They may es well just scrap TX completely and focus on adding cool stuff to TO only.

 

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Sir we don't have to use them then why have them why add them to the game . as time go's on less players  will be using them . OH wait  are they planning on changing the drug system all together and scraping it with the drone system . which would be a ...MONSTROUS BIG  mistake .

 

besides playing in test servers have you really played with a drone over head . well I have and I don't like it at all .. this is why I spend more time here enjoying this system. most dislike what they did to tanki X . and if they continue down this road .. well we all know what will happen .. less players in both games ..

 

leave tanki X in its own system and keep tanki here . if I want to play it then i would ..but I choose to play tanki instead ...regardless if new players are here or not they might what the old system.. and see how it  was , like leaving us a choice to play both. right now .. I personally feel there squeezing them into one game and removing tanki and not tanki x

 

 

 

Colonial_Marines

also what will end up happening in time is that we will have crystals from them but with most higher rank players we wont be able to purchase items in the garage if we have all of them.. see this is what my issue is in tanki X I have all the paints besides the ones in the containers leaving me no room to waste them on anything. and this will be here in due time. another mistake

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2018 by Bydo

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

Mods will defend developers, I mean doing their duties well :)

Edited May 25, 2018 by The_Pakistani

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Maf, please save your batteries, you'll need them for later.

 

EDIT: I'm kidding. Most of the time Maf is trying to help by answering questions, explaining and clarifying.

Edited May 25, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[BEIBEIHE 59]

All I have is legacy modules on my main. So am I screwed? And what about the millions of crystals I’ve spent on m4 xt’s.

I’m hope i’m Wrong but this sounds awful

Yes, you are SCREWED ! But they will say see you still have protections and you can set up modulus, isn't it better than before.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Yes, you are SCREWED ! But they will say see you still have protections and you can set up modulus, isn't it better than before.

I love this update too, i'm going to have to spend the crystals I was going to use to buy the extended clip alt on replacing my protections, with my compensation being supplies I can't even use without forking over a ton more for a drone.

[joji79 33]

Mods will defend developers, I am doing their duties well :)

Maf, please save your batteries, you'll need them for later.

oh please, give them a break. the update hasnt even hit the game yet, so youre just going to assume what will happen to it before even experiencing it yourself? you can criticize developers all you want, but why the need to bring in assumptions and "mods are defending the devs" so early on? at least test the update, and then you can say all you want :)

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bit bummed about the batteries thing, was really hoping they'd do a refund, but its very interesting so I cant really make a comment now.

Edited May 25, 2018 by joji79

[Shibecaisu 534]

there really needs to be a better explanation for drones, even i did not fully understand

[Bydo 20,119]

I love this update too, i'm going to have to spend the crystals I was going to use to buy the extended clip alt on replacing my protections, with my compensation being supplies I can't even use without forking over a ton more for a drone.

lower ranks will enjoy it . but its the long time players with more items and protection that will be more effected over all on it..

[Shibecaisu 534]

also, i expected the modules to be refunded with crystals, like the rebalance, instead with the new supply. basically our crystals are wasted :C

[austen_pierce 1,948]

My Lumberjack LGC will become batteries. Just batteries since I have higher protections on newer modules.

 

What is the conversion rate? What will be the crystal cost of a battery?

 

Until I know this, I can’t conclude how this conversion will treat LGC module owners.

[Bydo 20,119]

My Lumberjack LGC will become batteries. Just batteries since I have higher protections on newer modules.

 

What is the conversion rate? What will be the crystal cost of a battery?

 

Until I know this, I can’t conclude how this conversion will treat LGC module owners.

i agree part of your logic . I have 4 modules which are 4 systems fully upgraded . and I really hate to see these go . seeing the cost returned for a drone battery's will be way too many .. and others also more then me will be swimming with them . leaving others out in the rain..

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

oh please, give them a break. the update hasnt even hit the game yet, so youre just going to assume what will happen to it before even experiencing it yourself? you can criticize developers all you want, but why the need to bring in assumptions and "mods are defending the devs" so early on? at least test the update, and then you can say all you want :)

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bit bummed about the batteries thing, was really hoping they'd do a refund, but its very interesting so I cant really make a comment now.

 

also, i expected the modules to be refunded with crystals, like the rebalance, instead with the new supply. basically our crystals are wasted :C

 

My Lumberjack LGC will become batteries. Just batteries since I have higher protections on newer modules.

 

What is the conversion rate? What will be the crystal cost of a battery?

 

Until I know this, I can’t conclude how this conversion will treat LGC module owners.

Not exactly. I suggest you watch the vlog a few more times.

 

Old modules will be converted to new modules, and if there's a difference, that difference will be compensated in batteries.

Edited May 25, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

Right?

[E-T-H-E-R-E-A-L 10]

You don't have to use those drones of you don't have to. I feel like they're quite an interesting addition and I definitely disagree about them giving out your position like a "huge red arrow in the sky".

 

I do still care about players, but I'm welcoming these updates because they make the game more interesting, more diverse and modernised, which should help bring in new players. Old-school and nostalgia is good to some extent, but dwelling on the past and not willing to move on in order to adapt to changing times is a bad approach to all this. I feel like devs are doing a pretty good job at converting Tanki to a new style slowly and gradually, so that old players can adapt to the change.

 

I realise that a lot of players spend a lot of money on it over the years, but unfortunately Tanki can't keep pleasing such players and doing everything in their favour. New players are equally (if not more) important, so the game must change in their favour as well.

 

The reason you don't see me blindly hating this update like a lot of people here is because I consider all parties when judging an update: the developers, the players, the newbies, the pros, the buyers, the free players, etc. I know that every update is made to benefit some of those parties while inevitably being a disadvantage for others. But that's just how game development works - you can't make everybody happy at once.

 

And it's good that people can't just give this topic a bunch of downvotes. It forces people to express their opinion in words, which helps developers understand exactly what players are unhappy about.

Well rehearsed. Unfortunately through all your efforts you have made two points: "change is good" and "some gain some lose". Not only are those not the issues that are being raised, but you have come across as severely hypocritical:

 

Those of us who are expressing our opinions on here are, in your own words, "expressing our own opinions in words". But hey, if you want to call it "blind hate" that shows your ignorance in not reading the reasons for said opinions. Further to that point, downvotes gives a VERY clear indication of how the community is receiving the update - I can't see how removing it is in the interests of helping developers understand what the players are unhappy about. Clearly that was not the reason for removing downvotes.

 

I think you are asking the right questions though - are we considering everyone in the community? As far as your answer is concerned, you have actually dismissed that yourself as a matter of "some gain some lose". You are the one, my friend, who should be considering the views of those on here who are very unhappy with this update.

 

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Regardless, the original point still remains - those of us who have invested most into this game have had our equipment taken away and replaced with temporary supplies. They may as well be speedbosts. If you cannot be bothered to see the issues that are being raised, don't bother replying.

Edited May 25, 2018 by E-T-H-E-R-E-A-L

[splitterpoint 10,986]

So I am going to lose my crystals invested in Legacy Modules.. just like that?

You're destroying your most loyal player base; how ironic that the modules are called Legacy..

 

Lol go ahead and refund me in battery consumables so I can join another vicious cycle of buying and using and buying and using and..

Well, I ain't going take on that road.

 

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I will wait it out because I like what you did to the battle funds. That might be one of the best updates so far.

[Viking4s 10,791]

 

 

[...]
interesting only one staff on ..

Lol - how a new conspiracy started from thin air....

 

 

 

Right?

Yes, it looks like it.
But you would be able to mix them into more triple protection module that you didn't had before. The more module of turret protection the more combination you can make.
And I'm going to buy the spider one, probability of single protection module to be more expensive or at parity (best scenario).

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

So Legacy modules will be removed.

 

What will happen to my Rico 50% protection? Converted in battery? I don't give a about batteries.

 

I thought we could make our own Modules after the update. but of course, you will remove all the legacy modules before. Such a shame.