Episode 171 of the V-LOG has rolled out!

[splitterpoint 10,986]

If I own Prodigi LGC and Winter Legacy with 36 and 19% Thunder protection respectively; will my Thunder protections both be destroyed into consumables due to the fact that they're not the highest protection in the module?
 
Or do I keep the 36% Thunder protection of Prodigi LGC and lose the 19% from the Winter LGC, as if Prodigi would have held the highest Thunder protection in my garage?

Edited May 26, 2018 by splitterpoint

[Viking4s 10,791]

This is exactly my problem the new system will allow more player to have 50% protection from everything in less time and crystals and this will kill small capacity maps.

This would be a problem for very high ranks and especially legend 10+, they have so many crystals to spend. But players newly ranked to legend will be better protected against those Tanki colossus. As it does level the field, I would expect less blown out battles.

 

I understand your concern regarding the small map and small teams, but they are about pro-battle maps, it looks like now dev focus more on Normal battle. Saying that, Red Alert map would face that problem especially if they are testing 8v8.

[CooperO 7,956]

If I own Prodigi LGC and Winter Legacy with 36 and 19% Thunder protection respectively; will my Thunder protections both be destroyed into consumables due to the fact that they're not the highest protection in the module?

 

Or do I keep the 36% Thunder protection of Prodigi LGC and lose the 19% from the Winter LGC, as if Prodigi would have held the highest Thunder protection in my garage?

What we do know is that your modules will be split up into single modules (in the case of prodigi, that's railgun, thunder, shaft and firebird), but what we don't know yet is how exactly those percentages will be converted.

[DarkVengeance 31]

Yeah ok I get it, you all have the right to change the game, tweak, so on. I spent plenty cry purchasing Legacy modules and upgrading same so as to have protection against each weapon, now you are removing all of these unilaterally, will I get a refund of what I spent  ?

 

Dark Vengeance

[Maf 32,300]

Yeah ok I get it, you all have the right to change the game, tweak, so on. I spent plenty cry purchasing Legacy modules and upgrading same so as to have protection against each weapon, now you are removing all of these unilaterally, will I get a refund of what I spent  ?

 

Dark Vengeance

You will still have your protections, but they will be split up into separate components. There will be no crystal refunds, but you will get compensation in the form of batteries if you have modules with duplicate protections. You will be able to make any combination of three protections (from the ones you own), but you won't be able to make quad modules anymore.

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Why don't the developers consider a quad module...that way no one loses their LGC array.  Less refund hassles, happier players and even the newbies get 4 slots instead of only three.  It's a really easy fix and would benefit everyone.  

 

If we all had a four slot module instead of only three there would still be balance and still ten turrets that cold snuff you easily.

 

If the devs hop on this quickly it would save a lot of ill will and couldn't be that much harder to code a 4 slot mod instead of a 3 slot.  Even their conversions would be much simpler.  Why is 3 written in stone?

[splitterpoint 10,986]

What we do know is that your modules will be split up into single modules (in the case of prodigi, that's railgun, thunder, shaft and firebird), but what we don't know yet is how exactly those percentages will be converted.

 

Alright thanks, I see all we can do now is wait.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

That advantage in different form will be temporary(until player is out of batteries).

Actually you have that backwards.  Low module investment players will have few or maybe no batteries. They will run out quickly not the people with a ton of batteries in stock. 

 

This is a tangible payout to compensate for the conversion. It seems fair to me. These sort of things usually convert at 20 or 30 cents on the dollar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

batteries might be useful for you and few others but not for me.

Then you will be pned by your betters in the new system. It will be like playing with no protection module in today's game. [shrug] Your game your choice.

 

You don't understand maths m8.

You didn't demonstrate you know an thing m8. I;ll play the odds... it is 99.9% my background is stronger than yours.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Group A: Players who invested a lot into modules (incl .LGY) these players will get the same level of protections they have now, plus many batteries.

 

Group B: Players who invested moderately in protections will get teh same level of protection they have now, but zero or very few batteries.

 

Some players from Group A cannot claim they will not have an advantage over Group B players. That is dishonest. Their advantage will just be in a different form.  But it does exist.

 

Batteries will not be "useless" any more than RK's are "useless" today. Stamping one's feet and pouting does not change reality.

I don't have any duplicate protections, but even if I did these batteries would be a waste. I'm just a major and I get supplies faster than I can use them. By the time I got around to buying a drone, I would have gotten 1000+ batteries (assuming its another 50c supply) from chains and thus the bonus supplies are worthless. 

[jawa42 16]

Dear Tanki,

 

When I go to the shop and buy an apple, I don't expect the owners to simply give me an orange and tell me that its worth the same amount.

 

With the introduction of the new modules you made the legacy modules redundant - already leaving a bad taste in the mouths of those who have invested the most into your game. Now you want to simply remove them from the game and cash me with supplies? Is that sufficient compensation?

 

Why don't you stop for a second and ask yourselves why numbers in this game are crashing? Why old-timers in the game are leaving? - not because they dislike the gameplay, but because they are sick of greedy developers who don't care for those why pay into their game.

 

I am appalled with this - and I assure you not a single cent more will be spent in this game.

 

Kind regards

Well said. Corruption at its finest. In America this is called stealing. When I buy something and you take it away it is stealing. I did not spend money on crystals and premium for drones or whatever you are giving me. Because you give me something I don't want in return does not make it ok. If you buy a Jaguar and I take it and give you a Yugo is that ok?  That is what you are doing. STEALING! You will ban me for this most likely, but that is ok because I will be done anyway.

[Lankbouv 6,347]

 

 

You didn't demonstrate you know an thing m8. I;ll play the odds... it is 99.9% my background is stronger than yours.

Eh, I clearly demonstrated you lose crystals from this update if you have upwards of 20 modules.  And if you wanna discuss grades sure

[r_UNPKO0 7]

Old story. Changes like these make players lose trust in the game. Even with the introduction of the new tiple modules, players that invested hundreds into upgrading the legacy modules they lost out. No surprise the numbers playing tanki have halved in just the last few years.

 

Tanki is a business no doubt about it. Introduction of microupgrades, dramatic "rebalances", premium, shortening of supplies, containers, now drones and batteries - are designed to increase investment into the game, making it more expensive to play. I recently started a new account and the amount of special bundles I get offered now is insane! In itself, I have no problem with that and if I were administration I would surely be thinking of ways to increase my revenue.

 

However, two things really annoy me.

 

1) People blinding defending tanki by pushing for the fact that money is NOT on the forefront of their mind - clearly they are choosing to ignore the obvious. You simply have to look at the track record - "tanki are changing things up", "the game needs to evolve", "new players need to be able to enjoy the game" are all secondary reasons to a primary one. I don't think its ignorance, I think its delusion. It's no surprise that most of these players are moderators. And as a former moderator myself, I won't be ashamed to admit that!

 

2) The fact that it seems Tanki is undervaluing the players. Sure, add a new feature to the game - make some changes that are fresh and improve gameplay experience. Encourage more spending by making the game more diverse and more fun - this is the way most game companies make their revenue. However, they do not do this at the expense of misleading players, including those ones that are most invested in the game. With this update, players have simply ended up investing cash into buying consumable batteries. Do you think that's compensatory?

 

Best option: do not invest into the game because you simply cannot say what will become of your items down the line! I enjoy the gameplay experience still, but not another cent in the game. The more I invest, the more I am hurt when updates like these come out.

I agree that to run a game is to run a business. I don't mind they ask for money and some players are willing to pay; it is how the game survives. What make me start feeling bad of this game is that they are making too much and too significant changes all the time. How to play, how to plan, all the tactics, nature of the equipment (they like to nerf and boost equipment), you name it all go out the window. The game has been changed too much from the one I first joined and became another game. I mean the present game looks like another game company "copied" the old Tanki and make the one we are playing at this moment. Also, differences between buyers and non-buyers are already too much now and they are going to put a secondary tank, drone, that makes the differences even bigger in the future. Even they keep saying that we can earn crystals easier, that "easier" also applies to buyers, right? Anyway buyers don't really care because they can put just a little more money, may be 1% more, to "compensate" this "easier" if they want. I don't mind to play with buyers with better equipment; they deserve it but the differences are really too big. Buyers can play "good" without skills with kits, drugs, MUs. I don't mean all buyers have no skills but they can do really good without skills, and I've encountered a lot of them. When non-buyers got beaten up to bad and too easy by buyers plus too difficult to kill/stop buyers too often, the game play would become meaningless to them and I believe they will stop playing if they don't want, or they cannot afford, to invest money; I am having this kind of feeling now.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

I don't like drones one bit, the concept and the fact that they'll be like a big fly on my screen. I'm already annoyed by them.

 

It feels like they are trying to make tanki cool, but you know it isn't.

 

Don't get wrong, artist did a good job and maybe programers too.

Edited May 26, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[Wit 599]

About the Pro battle in the future, can we turn off the drone ?

There must be as it would ruin clan battles and special events.

[Hancho 3,902]

Why don't you stop for a second and ask yourselves why numbers in this game are crashing? Why old-timers in the game are leaving? - not because they dislike the gameplay, but because they are sick of greedy developers who don't care for those why pay into their game.

Do you actually think during an actual staff/developers meeting they don't realise what they are doing? They are way far ahead with what players are going to complain and ask questions about. They realise every single detail because it is their plan and development and they go with what will work out the best for the game except; loyalty and respect for old timers is not included into their plan because thinking about it logically, what makes them really special (myself included) they just don't have time to think about who is going to complain/write sad comments. With all the updates that have been coming out, not one feedback they have looked at from an old timer of this game so they continue releasing useless updates because it's what works best for them, their actual plan. People like Hazel are, straight forward and they do not listen to others. 

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

My garage hasn't always been this strong and I was cannon fodder for a long time but by playing everyday, buying the occasional crystals at the right times, using sales and gradually buiding up my protections, I'm eventually in a position to be able to defend myself adequately against most of what is out there. It's taken me two years since the disintergration update, which seperated paints from protections, to get this far. 2 years is hardly "forever" as you put it.

 

I will never buy again and I will spend far less time playing this game from now on. What is the point of striving for something in this game if just going to be taken away from you when you achieve it? Let me reiterate, it's not about the money I have spent, I knew I was wasting that from the outset.

 

Could you imagine if everyone got the equivalent of helper protection? 20% protection from everything? The outcry would be enormous. How would the majority of helpers respond to that? I mean, to use Maf's argument, it's not like they'd lose anything? Or would they?

 

So enough is enough for me. There are too many resets in this game for me to stay interested and I'm sick of reading all the groveling apologist excuses. I'm not leaving just yet but from now on, should I play, I won't be trying my usual 100% to win because I've learned there is no point trying anymore.

 

you'll get compensated batteries.. no offense but, had they compensated you crystals or even cash wouldn't you have bought batteries with them anyway? really not trying to provoke you here..

 

you lose the advantage you had of having more protection combinations than others, but you get the advantage of having your drugs more powerful than others.

Edited May 26, 2018 by GuidoFawkes

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Then you will be pned by your betters in the new system. It will be like playing with no protection module in today's game. [shrug] Your game your choice.

Exactly, that's how it works.

 

If you don't cancel out the enemy's upgrades; you'll be underpowered.

Soon there will be alterations on batteries too,

And alterations on the alterations on batteries,

And alterations on the alterations on the alterations of batteries,

And alterations on the alterations on the alterations on the alterations of batteries,

And alterations on the alterations on the alterations on the alterations on the alterations of batteries.

 

The crystal pit keeps going on this cheap system to keep the players from reaching peak-performance.

 

I bet some day we'll see quadruple damage that doubles the damage of the double damage supply,

Or quadruple speed boost that doubles the speed boost of the speed boost.

 

Soon soon soon... mark my words.

[r_UNPKO0 7]

 

I bet some day we'll see quadruple damage that doubles the damage of the double damage supply,

Or quadruple speed boost that doubles the speed boost of the speed boost.

 

Soon soon soon... mark my words.

I am thinking will they release triple damage/armour/speed at this moment. You are even ahead of me: quadruple. LOL 

 

I believe it would happen as long as they keep changing the game. I can't imagine what game Tanki will become a year from now. It might even more like SimCity, Candy Crush or Romance of the Three Kingdoms. LOL

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

you'll get compensated batteries.. no offense but, had they compensated you crystals or even cash wouldn't you have bought batteries with them anyway? really not trying to provoke you here..

Let's say they break up modules into singles and new singles cost the same as today.

 

If s/he has at least one protection that's M3+ and a duplicate that's also M3+.  That Duplicate is worth 150k crystals.

 

Now lets say batteries will cost 100 crystals, that means s/he would get 15k batteries for that single duplicate. S/he likely will have dozens of duplicates. Maybe tanki should allow the transfer of accounts from parents to their children, that way AbsoluteZero's grand kids can still enjoy the extra batteries... it's only fair.

[peter2003tankist 17]

 Make a drone that when the Gold box falls it appears next to the drop location ,records videos and can be used for reporting hackers.

P.E. Why do you want to add drones for the supplies? I am pretty sure they would more useful for reason I mentioned.

Edited May 26, 2018 by peter2003tankist

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Let's say they break up modules into singles and new singles cost the same as today.

 

If s/he has at least one protection that's M3+ and a duplicate that's also M3+.  That Duplicate is worth 150k crystals.

 

Now lets say batteries will cost 100 crystals, that means s/he would get 15k batteries for that single duplicate. S/he likely will have dozens of duplicates. Maybe tanki should allow the transfer of accounts from parents to their children, that way AbsoluteZero's grand kids can still enjoy the extra batteries... it's only fair.

ahahaha 15k battries would probably just last him a few weeks..

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

ahahaha 15k battries would probably just last him a few weeks..

S/he will have like 120 singles, if you remove 13 for the new system, you get 107. Now multiply 107 by 15k, you get 1,605,000 batteries. In crystals is over 16 million crystals. You judge.

Edited May 26, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[KILL_BILL_CHAUHAN 2,505]

This would be a problem for very high ranks and especially legend 10+, they have so many crystals to spend. But players newly ranked to legend will be better protected against those Tanki colossus. As it does level the field, I would expect less blown out battles.

 

I understand your concern regarding the small map and small teams, but they are about pro-battle maps, it looks like now dev focus more on Normal battle. Saying that, Red Alert map would face that problem especially if they are testing 8v8.

By the time a player gain 3-4 million exp all he/she needs to do is MU and buying new module to get an advantage over others. This difference between garage is what keep them going in the game. But with this new update this gap will be very short and old player will loss interest in game. Tanki must respect old players too. 

 

Tanki is literally killing this game on the name of non pro battle. Multing in non pro 10 or 15 min battle is no big deal if compare with pro battle. When devs remove 1500 supply kit from garage and many modes defend that update by saying that this with make game more balance and reduce drug abuse but today devs come up with a new concept which will directly increase more drug abuse.

 

Module update was added in mid 2016, this update is yet to complete it's 2nd anniversary but devs are planning to remove it why? What tanki devs are doing is that they came up with a new update which contradict with the previous update and this create chaos. The approach of tanki devs should be constructive rather then destructive.

[Tabish 100]

 

By the time a player gain 3-4 million exp all he/she needs to do is MU and buying new module to get an advantage over others. This difference between garage is what keep them going in the game. But with this new update this gap will be very short and old player will loss interest in game. Tanki must respect old players too.

 

Tanki is literally killing this game on the name of non pro battle. Multing in non pro 10 or 15 min battle is no big deal if compare with pro battle. When devs remove 1500 supply kit from garage and many modes defend that update by saying that this with make game more balance and reduce drug abuse but today devs come up with a new concept which will directly increase more drug abuse.

 

Module update was added in mid 2016, this update is yet to complete it's 2nd anniversary but devs are planning to remove it why? What tanki devs are doing is that they came up with a new update which contradict with the previous update and this create chaos. The approach of tanki devs should be constructive rather then destructive.

+ × 100 Edited May 26, 2018 by Tabish

[r_eXistenZ2 1]

Module update was added in mid 2016, this update is yet to complete it's 2nd anniversary but devs are planning to remove it why? What tanki devs are doing is that they came up with a new update which contradict with the previous update and this create chaos. The approach of tanki devs should be constructive rather then destructive.

Yeah, you are right. It looks like everything is temporary and things keep changing quickly. I feel like we are guinea pigs for testing new ideas the devs pop up in their minds. I even have some feeling that we are being fooled. They just try to put something funny in the game to see how funny we act then change them later to see another effect on us. I feel like I don't know how to play this game now.