Episode 171 of the V-LOG has rolled out!

[roybus 19]

what on earth happened to the great game I loved  :( 

[FreshBeat 26]

It's been said here multiple times - a crystal refund is impossible since it would crash the game's economy.

 

If you don't want to use drones - your choice. Similarly, you don't have to use supplies, paints, modules, etc. Yet developers won't be able to give you crystals as compensation for every item you don't like/need.

They should give you a Drone of which is permanent fixture or all 3 of them, or a choice of something like a haul / turret or you might have wanted or upgraded even an XT turret  before they switch to the shells.  I would have looked at XT Equipment instead of a module that I spent 250,000 crystals over again as I thought it would help me last longer in battles  including any upgrades to the tanker.   A lot of the 250,000K M3 upgraded Modules I have only played a few hours some only 1 or 2 hrs.  Giving tankers supplies for an Item you don't even have yet is criminal.  It is BAD BUSINESS.  If you can't see that the reimbursement stated in VLOG is horrible you must be under contract with them by moderator rules.  Reimbursing the current great customers will not hurt this company since they are looking for new consumers and retaining the customers that have supplied them with revenue.   One happy camper will tell likely 1 or 2 others about tanki in good light, One unhappy tanker will tell 10 others how bad tanki is.  That is just the way business works.  Going overboard on keeping current customers happy is most important for a good business model.  The Higher Rank Legends will be most angered by this, since they paid more out of pocket for M3 modules with crystals.  They will not pay anything more, and might out right stop frequenting this online game.  Not gonna happen if they don't refund in permanent fixture like M3 drones or Hauls we have not upgraded make them upgraded to a M4.  

Edited May 27, 2018 by FreshBeat

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Maybe Devs wanted to give us something to look forward to while we deal with Matchmaking. Instead what they have done is create uncertainty, and uncertainty is not good for business.

 

I think in the next V-Log they should clarify things, like how exactly the conversion will happen, how much the new modules will cost and more details about Drones. Or even better rethink the whole Drones thing, but that's just me.

 

Some think the Drones concept is bad, others think it's good. I think we should talk more about Drones and maybe convince one way or another if it's good or bad, and maybe that way we give Tanki better feedback about it.

 

My opinion about Drones:

 

-It doesn't look good on the game. It's annoying.

-Nothing interesting so far, just a little more repair, a little longer supplies... feels more of the same.

-Buyers will be even more powerful. Imagine a drugging MUed Mammoth/Vulcan with MUed protections and a repairing drone. No need for Isida, just camp next to another Vulcan/Mammoth with another repairing drone and share repairs and Overdrives.

-More things to deal with in the garage.

Edited May 27, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[CooperO 7,956]

Fourth, is it confirmed that 50% protection today will remain 50% protection after the update?

No confirmation has been given yet on how exactly the conversion will take place. It's been stated that the modules will be split up into singles, but we don't know yet if percentages will be added together, if the module with the highest percentage will be kept or if it will be done in another way. We'll have to wait for more news on that, but I've forwarded the question/concern.

[KILL_BILL_CHAUHAN 2,505]

To be honest I don't get what you want to convey with this note. Imho this sentence can also be understand in that way, that it says 'if you have more upgrades, then you get more batteries'.

 

 

No confirmation has been given yet on how exactly the conversion will take place. It's been stated that the modules will be split up into singles, but we don't know yet if percentages will be added together, if the module with the highest percentage will be kept or if it will be done in another way. We'll have to wait for more news on that, but I've forwarded the question/concern.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

You know all this at this level of detail how?  You don't is the answer. Some players will "get around to buying a drone"  1 minunte after they log on the first time post-update/  These will be players with many batteries in stock. Looks like you should read teh definition of "worthless" because this ain't it.

While that's great for those other players, i'm not one of them as I don't have hundreds of thousands of crystals in my garage saved up to combat tanki constantly destroying peoples equipment.

[r_Kirby4 358]

Well, one is well implementation of a promised feature and second are implementation of untold features helping the game to stay live. I'd rather focus on upgrading current features than implementing the thing that came to my mind just 5 minutes before programming it (not literally 5). One is taking a look at competition and their succesful features and implementing some without a thought given food and the other is making people happy about it the proper way like the competition. This comment isn't necessarily about this update only; if someone asks what does this have with which competition.

Edited May 27, 2018 by r_Kirby4

[Lankbouv 6,347]

You know all this at this level of detail how?  You don't is the answer. Some players will "get around to buying a drone"  1 minunte after they log on the first time post-update/  These will be players with many batteries in stock. Looks like you should read teh definition of "worthless" because this ain't it.

 

 

And I clearly said on these sort of conversions it is unrealistic to expect more than 20 - 30 cents on the dollar?

 

Go your math "grades" allow you to understand what 20 cents on the dollar means? Hint: It is a word problem.

 

If your math skills were anywhere in danger of being in the >99.9% population then you'd know ANY POSITIVE NUMBER > ZERO.

 

If your reading skills were up there you see I did not say players like you would get a full 1 Cry for 1 Cry compensation, I said you would get MORE THAN NOTHING.. And you are. You are getting batteries that other players will not. So you are getting something for your investment, not the "nothing", "useless", and "worthless" claims that are being pouted about on this forum.

 

Something > nothing... capicje?

And my whole point was you don't get full compensation so it is stealing as I originally said...thx for arguing with me only to agree with me lool

[SkiIL-PaVlIToS 579]

Rip people with 10-20 m4 modules haha :X

[Bydo 20,123]

ok now that the system will be changing for longer time to rank up will the rank up amount be increased or what ?

 

XT items . will they now be sold in garage or in containers ? also will the price increase ?

Edited May 27, 2018 by Bydo

[LittleWillie 3,199]

While that's great for those other players, i'm not one of them as I don't have hundreds of thousands of crystals in my garage saved up to combat tanki constantly destroying peoples equipment.

You will have the same protections you have today - except with more flexibility. Your equipment is not being "destroyed". This is another factually-bankrupt assertation.

 

This is a change. Good players adapt to change like ducks take to swimming. Change means good players have the window of opportunity to pwn the masses as they struggle to comprehend the new system.

 

Sorry to learn your confidence is at zero.

[KILL_BILL_CHAUHAN 2,505]

Mirco upgrading single module with 50% and 70% sale cost 102040 crystals (excluding last SU). And Mu triple module cost 459060 crystals. So according to what is said above is implemented (i.e a player can keep his highest micro updated module) Then what will happen to this game ? :P

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

one thing for sure, i will not be spending one horseraddish to buy any of those drones. had they been fr actual drone stuff like spying, sednding intel, attack etc i would at least try them, but so far they're all for drugs which i never use. 

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

You will have the same protections you have today - except with more flexibility. Your equipment is not being "destroyed". This is another factually-bankrupt assertation.

 

This is a change. Good players adapt to change like ducks take to swimming. Change means good players have the window of opportunity to pwn the masses as they struggle to comprehend the new system.

 

Sorry to learn your confidence is at zero.

What about the legends who spent hundreds of thousands on duplicate protections to become much better equipped on maps like deck-9, atra and arena? They're going to have a 50% on each turret still, but all the crystals they spent on modules are going into battery supplies they could afford infinite amounts of as it is.

 

If someone took away your house and gave you tons of premium grade dirt of equal value, you would be pissed wouldn't you? You have no use for this dirt and it can't build a house.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

What about the legends who spent hundreds of thousands on duplicate protections to become much better equipped on maps like deck-9, atra and arena? They're going to have a 50% on each turret still, but all the crystals they spent on modules are going into battery supplies they could afford infinite amounts of as it is.

 

If someone took away your house and gave you tons of premium grade dirt of equal value, you would be pissed wouldn't you? You have no use for this dirt and it can't build a house.

they will be even better equipped than they ever were... 

 

sp their house got upgraded and they get dirt on top of it

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

they will be even better equipped than they ever were... 

 

sp their house got upgraded and they get dirt on top of it

A legend spends just enough crystals to get m4 triple modules to protect against every turret. Another legend goes above and beyond to get a bunch of duplicate protections to have an advantage no matter what turrets the enemy brings. 

 

After this update, both players now have the same amount of protection, but one is completely ripped off because all the time and money put into the modules is converted into a few useless batteries. The *least* tanki could have reasonably done was convert modules into drones, but instead we get useless supplies.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

A legend spends just enough crystals to get m4 triple modules to protect against every turret. Another legend goes above and beyond to get a bunch of duplicate protections to have an advantage no matter what turrets the enemy brings. 

 

After this update, both players now have the same amount of protection, but one is completely ripped off because all the time and money put into the modules is converted into a few useless batteries. The *least* tanki could have reasonably done was convert modules into drones, but instead we get useless supplies.

how the hell are they supposed to convert modules to drones, there's like 61 triple modules and god knows how many legacies and only 12 drones. only way they could do that is to make the pric of drones super expensive sch that no free player would be able to afford one

[Maf 32,300]

How can we be smart about how we spend crystals when we don’t know what the designers will take away in the future?

What I mean by smart spending is not wasting crystals on unnecessary items and taking advantage of opportunities to save crystals. Using holiday sales, buying supplies in bulk, only upgrading one or two combos, not playing longer than the time it takes to complete missions, etc.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

how the hell are they supposed to convert modules to drones, there's like 61 triple modules and god knows how many legacies and only 12 drones. only way they could do that is to make the pric of drones super expensive sch that no free player would be able to afford one

If tanki can give supplies based on the cost of modules, they can give drones based on the cost of modules. There will only be 3 drones anyway, so for a legend who spends ~ 1 million crystals on now worthless modules, the least tanki could have done was give all 3 of them for free.

[Viking4s 10,791]

A legend spends just enough crystals to get m4 triple modules to protect against every turret. Another legend goes above and beyond to get a bunch of duplicate protections to have an advantage no matter what turrets the enemy brings. 

 

After this update, both players now have the same amount of protection, but one is completely ripped off because all the time and money put into the modules is converted into a few useless batteries. The *least* tanki could have reasonably done was convert modules into drones, but instead we get useless supplies.

 

how the hell are they supposed to convert modules to drones, there's like 61 triple modules and god knows how many legacies and only 12 drones. only way they could do that is to make the pric of drones super expensive sch that no free player would be able to afford one

A simple program could do the conversion. There is 69 legacy modules and 100 "old modules" (triple + double + single).

Currently only 3 drones will be available - it won't be a good idea to propose only those 3 as compensation. People could at least choose which one they want.

- Paratrooper/ Trooper Drone

- Mechanic / Repair Drone

- Assault Drone

Also it would not solve everything, some tanker would have conversion results higher than the cost of the three drones. 

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

If tanki can give supplies based on the cost of modules, they can give drones based on the cost of modules. There will only be 3 drones anyway, so for a legend who spends ~ 1 million crystals on now worthless modules, the least tanki could have done was give all 3 of them for free.

and what about those who spent 50 million? 

 

 

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

and what about those who spent 50 million?

 

You're not helping your cause. ;) 

 

50 Million could give you something like 12 well upgraded drones.

 

Or 500,000 batteries if batteries cost 100 crystals. :lol:

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

and what about those who spent 50 million? 

 

 

I like how you suddenly change sides once you realize this troll is pointless.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Drones will come in the next couple of week, stated in V-Log 171. Preferably in a months time.

 

My suggestion is to have drones attack enemies and heal team mates in team battles. To make better use of drones, they must heal the player's tank, team mates and attack nearby enemies. There is no point on having drones to only activate all you supplies like an overdrive. Overdrives must be completely different than drones are.

 

I do like the addition of drones only if they benefit the players as I mentioned above. Please tell me what you folks think about my idea.

[EternalGlory 84]

it`s just a game and everyting can change, you can`t dominate and have cozy game forever and never get any cons so...