Episode 171 of the V-LOG has rolled out!

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Right?

I'm not sure, Hazel said in the video that all modules will be converted to new modules. Then he said that if their is change left from the conversion that will be compensated in batteries. He also said all old modules will be removed... I think because all will be converted.

 

The talk about modules starts at 4:55.

 

So Legacy modules will be removed.

 

What will happen to my Rico 50% protection? Converted in battery? I don't give a  about batteries.

 

I thought we could make our own Modules after the update. but of course, you will remove all the legacy modules before. Such a shame.

I understood that all modules will be converted.

 

In my opinion the module system will be expensive, but experience growing slower will help us economically.

 

All is somewhat good so far except Drones, Batteries and if you have XTs... XTs.

 

The talk about slower EXP is at 0:45.

Edited May 25, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Suddenly I am very happy I decided not to buy Rock back in 2016.

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

 

Yes, it looks like it.

But you would be able to mix them into more triple protection module that you didn't had before. The more module of turret protection the more combination you can make.

And I'm going to buy the spider one, probability of single protection module to be more expensive or at parity (best scenario).

 

Right now I have 6 anti-rico modules :ph34r: :wacko: :unsure:

[Viking4s 10,791]

So Legacy modules will be removed.

What will happen to my Rico 50% protection? Converted in battery? I don't give a cheese about batteries.

I thought we could make our own Modules after the update. but of course, you will remove all the legacy modules before. Such a shame.

More likely your rico 50% will stay, and all the other that are lower (let's say 35% and 42%) will be converter into batteries supplies.

All module will be dismantle into single protection module - among the redundant single module only the highest one will remain and the other will be converted in batteries.

Then withe the unique turret protect you can build any combination of three thanks to the modulable module up to 50% each.

However no more quadruple module. :(

 

Right now I have 6 anti-rico modules :ph34r: :wacko: :unsure:

yes that was the huge disadvantages of the previous system.

[Maf 32,300]

What about the crystals the players spent on modules in the first place??? Why can't they give us crystals? Were going to use them to buy new modules anyway.

I literally explained it in the post you quoted. Giving players crystals as compensation is always risky for the game, since it means that for some time players will have a lot more spare crystals lying around and won't have to spend money to get more. it instantly reduces revenue and puts the company in a bad economical situation, forcing them to do things like raising prices or reducing the amount of rewards in order to get players to spend less. It happened after the 2012 Rebalance and devs don't want it to happen again, that's why they decided to compensate by giving a specific item (batteries), rather than crystals, which can be spent on a bunch of other things.

 

what about the cost for buying and MUing those drones? right now m0 hunter + m0 smoky has to fight m2 smoky + m2 titan +m2 module+alteration+drugs... now we add a drone to the 2nd player? 

Yeah pretty much. But if you spend your crystals wisely (i.e. use holiday sales, do missions and don't waste cry on things like paints), then you should have enough to buy and upgrade a drone you like without spending money.

 

besides playing in test servers have you really played with a drone over head . well I have and I don't like it at all .. this is why I spend more time here enjoying this system. most dislike what they did to tanki X . and if they continue down this road .. well we all know what will happen .. less players in both games ..

But have you actually watched the V-log? Those drones seem tiny! Besides, they're like supplies - work for a limited amount of time and then disappear back into your tank.

 

there really needs to be a better explanation for drones, even i did not fully understand

They're basically a new supply, but there's three different types of them, so you can select the one you like most. You will probably activate it with a new key (such as 7) and it will be active for some time, like a supply. Activating it uses up one battery, and you can buy batteries in the garage or get them from missions, etc. While it's activated, it will give you a bonus (depending on which drone you choose), such as increasing duration of your supplies, improving effectiveness of repair kit or activating all supplies for a few seconds when you respawn.

[DRAKO523 795]

​Fellas not sure if my eye-sight is broken, but when they filmed the part "Legacy modules will be removed" they had discord loading in the background.. They're on discord too we aren't safe anymore  :ph34r:  :ph34r:  :ph34r: 

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

You people need to watch the video again and again to understand, you mods too.

 

Modules will not be converted directly to batteries, they'll be converted to the new system, all of them. If there's change left from the conversion, that change will be compensated in batteries.

 

And we still don't know how the conversion will happen. Stop assuming that our modules will be broken up into single protections. It's likely not a good idea to buy single modules today or during celebrations, I don't think modules will be broken up, that's just wishful thinking.

[TaffyTank 1,890]

Genuine question....Any chance we can have these drones fly a little higher above our tank? high enough so I don't have to look at it. thx.

[HammerXT 96]

New matchmaking system?

meh, i really don't care, non pro battles will always be bad, too much drugging IS the real problem, but you guyes benefit from it so you will never change it, and probably will make the drugging even worse later.

 

No funds in private battles ?

good, because some players play wasp/fire there.

 

New way of calculating the score in battles?

good, no more lazy healing isida's in our base while we do all the hard work.

 

Drones & removing our legacy modules?

what the HELL ? :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow: 

big deslike, we didn't ask for drones, we never needed them & we don't want them, i don't even like it's consept and i don't want to like it, and i don't wanna see it before i judge it, i just don't like it, it's a big change to tanki gameplay, it only complicate things even more, we play tanki for it's simplicity, if i want drones i would played War Robots on my Android.  -_-

 

also you gonna remove our legacy modules and give us drones as conponsetaion ? big rip off because we don't even like the idea of drones in the first place,  we don't need drones now, the only thing we need is good protecion modules and we already have it currently.

 

P.S: giving us the ability the choose 1 paint for free from the containers (even the legendary ones) would have been a  better conponsetaion, and keep your non-needed drones for yourselves.

 

i really don't like this.

 

[ViViJiAnG 0]

If it is not broken, don't break it !

 

I am very very disappointed after watching the Vlog. Somehow I am feeling a bit lucky. First, I never spent a dollar on this game. Second, I am still at low rank, an early stage. I play on and off from time to time. I didn't put too much time on it. I don't mind to quit.

 

There are plenty of games on the internet. This is not the only one.

[Maf 32,300]

Right?

All get removed and you get all protections as separate, individual modules which you can then equip three at a time (i.e. combine them into a custom triple module). Any duplicate protections from other modules will be compensated as batteries.

 

 

Those of us who are expressing our opinions on here are, in your own words, "expressing our own opinions in words". But hey, if you want to call it "blind hate" that shows your ignorance in not reading the reasons for said opinions. Further to that point, downvotes gives a VERY clear indication of how the community is receiving the update - I can't see how removing it is in the interests of helping developers understand what the players are unhappy about. Clearly that was not the reason for removing downvotes.

 You're right, poor choice of words on my part. In fact, I admit that I copy-pasted that reply from another topic in which a lot of players were actually blindly hating the update, which isn't the case here. I rephrased that past in my post.

 

I disagree about downvotes being a good indicator. A lot of the time devs release an update expecting players to like it, and if all they get is a bunch of dislikes on it, how would they know what they did wrong? Sure, for some updates they know for sure that a lot of players will dislike it, but the update had to be implemented because of other reasons (such as needing to adapt to new audiences). But in any case, it helps when players reply and explain what they dislike, rather than leaving a downvote on the announcement post.

 

I think you are asking the right questions though - are we considering everyone in the community? As far as your answer is concerned, you have actually dismissed that yourself as a matter of "some gain some lose". You are the one, my friend, who should be considering the views of those on here who are very unhappy with this update.

What I meant by that part is that I don't instantly hate an update if it doesn't benefit me, as a player. For example the removal of missions from PRO battles - sure, I don't like that it happened. I myself enjoyed easily completing difficult missions by capturing a single flag on island and getting a lot of crystals from 1 minute of effort. But when that privilege was removed, I didn't go to the forum and post "devs ruined the game, I'm leaving!" because I realised that the update was necessary to make the daily missions system more balanced and fair, even though it was obviously a bad change for the players.

 

Same applies here.

 

Regardless, the original point still remains - those of us who have invested most into this game have had our equipment taken away and replaced with temporary supplies. They may as well be speedbosts. If you cannot be bothered to see the issues that are being raised, don't bother replying.

 I don't understand why you have that mindset. You still keep ALL your protections and not only will you be able to equip them to get the same modules you have now, but you actually gain the ability to make completely new sets of protections you didn't have before. All free of charge. And not only that, but you actually get at least some compensation for any duplicate protections you have. I didn't expect there to be any compensation at all.

 

 

So Legacy modules will be removed.

 

What will happen to my Rico 50% protection? Converted in battery? I don't give a about batteries.

 

I thought we could make our own Modules after the update. but of course, you will remove all the legacy modules before. Such a shame.

Devs phrased it incorrectly. ALL modules will be removed and you will get the highest % protection from each turret that you had in any module (LGC or not). So you will get your 50% Rico as a separate protection, but if you had another Rico protection in another module (50% or lower, doesn't matter) - it will be compensated as batteries.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

I literally explained it in the post you quoted. Giving players crystals as compensation is always risky for the game, since it means that for some time players will have a lot more spare crystals lying around and won't have to spend money to get more. it instantly reduces revenue and puts the company in a bad economical situation, forcing them to do things like raising prices or reducing the amount of rewards in order to get players to spend less. It happened after the 2012 Rebalance and devs don't want it to happen again, that's why they decided to compensate by giving a specific item (batteries), rather than crystals, which can be spent on a bunch of other things.

Ahh, yes, that explains everything. It would disturb the balance of the game if tanki were to let people use the equipment they bought, so they have to take it away and give us supplies we have too much of as it is.

[marto0406 0]

Cool update! I can't wait for it!  B)

 

Question of the week - Double Damage  :)

[Ninja 10,468]

Question of the week - Double Damage  :)

You need to submit your answers here: Question of the Week Submissions

[Ritz 411]

What is this?...some kind of sick conspiracy against the old players?...or is this a sick joke?

Either way its sick.

Can't believe the legacy modules update...this just reflects on the sad state of the game and its developers.

 

No one asked for drones...its absolutely ridiculous to have an object blocking your field of vision...no one needs batteries as compensation for legacy modules...no one even knows how batteries work...you are taking away things that people worked hard for...maybe even spent real money on and replacing it with a new supply which no one knows how it works?...people did not pay for batteries they paid for modules and its upgrades...you either give them back the modules or the crystals... definitely not some consumable that we heard the name for the first time.

 

There are different types of players in this game...people who play no supplies battles...what about them?...ever thought of them?..they spent all their crystals on something "permanent" and in return they will receive what?...this just goes to show how much they care.

 

Really sad day for Tanki Online...not only will they ruin gameplay with this update, they will also make a joke out of other people's investments.

 

Can't imagine how any old timer can see a positive side to this...because the negatives are just too opaque

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Devs phrased it incorrectly. ALL modules will be removed and you will get the highest % protection from each turret that you had in any module (LGC or not). So you will get your 50% Rico as a separate protection, but if you had another Rico protection in another module (50% or lower, doesn't matter) - it will be compensated as batteries.

How are you sure that's how the conversion will happen? I have watched the video again and again and I don't come to that conclusion. It says that the more upgrades your modules have the cooler they'll be after the update, I understand that as a conversion based on something else other that breaking up modules. Maybe you have other info, I don't know.

 

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Tanki please clarify if modules will be broken up or converted in another way. So I can buy single modules, or not, likely not, but with Tanki you never know.

Edited May 25, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[Maf 32,300]

And we still don't know how the conversion will happen. Stop assuming that our modules will be broken up into single protections. It's likely not a good idea to buy single modules today or during celebrations, I don't think modules will be broken up, that's just wishful thinking.

Eh, it's pretty clear at this point. You get the highest protection for each turret from the modules you have and any duplicates get converted into batteries. I'll take my garage for example: 

• Ursa T-H (Rico 50%, Magnum 50%, Isida 50%)
• Prodigy LGC (Rail 50%, Thunder 43%, Shaft 29%, Fire 10%)
• Emerald LGC (Thunder 50%, Twins 48%, Rail 19%)
• Spider (Mine 50%)
• Inferno LGC (Fire 31%, Twins 13%, Freeze 41%)
• Irbis LGC (Isida 42%, Freeze 21%, Rico 15%)
• Jade LGC (Shaft 45%, Hammer 15%, Smoky 25%, Thunder 12%)
• I'll ignore the rest for the sake of simplicity

Then after the update I will get the following:

• Individual protections saved in garage - Rico 50%, Magnum 50%, Isida 50%, Rail 50%, Thunder 50%, Mine 50%, Shaft 45%, Twins 48%, Freeze 41%, Fire 31%, Smoky 25%, Hammer 15%
• Duplicate protections converted into batteries - Shaft 29%, Fire 10%, Rail 19%, Twins 13%, isida 41%, Freeze 21%, Rico 15%, Thunder 12%

The only thing we don't know is what exactly the conversion rate will be. I'm pretty sure it won't be direct (i.e. 1% = 1 battery), so it will probably be directly related to the amount you spent on the module and the upgrades, i.e. one 50% protection from a triple module will give a lot more batteries than two 35% protections from two triple modules. Maybe something like each 500 spent on modules will give 1 battery, so if you have a full MU triple module and all three of it's protections are duplicate, you'd get 1400 batteries, since you spent 700 000 on upgrading the module.

 

But I really don't want to make any wrong guesses about this. Best to wait until the conversion actually happens.

 

 

P.S: giving us the ability the choose 1 paint for free from the containers (even the legendary ones) would have been a  better conponsetaion, and keep your non-needed drones for yourselves.

You'll find that the vast majority of people will disagree with you there. I can imagine the comments from people who already have a bunch of legendary paints they don't use anyway and all they get for their 50 full MU modules is a bunch more useless paints  :wacko:

[wolverine848 13,097]

Right now I have 6 anti-rico modules :ph34r: :wacko: :unsure:

Racist :P

 

New way of calculating the score in battles?

good, no more lazy healing isida's in our base while we do all the hard work.

 

Since when was a healing isida keeping flag defenders alive bad?   :o 

 

Better those defenders get wiped out by a couple magnums so enemy can waltz in and cart away your flag? :blink: 

[Maf 32,300]

and give us supplies we have too much of as it is.

Please tell me more about how you already have too many batteries :D

 

How are you sure that's how the conversion will happen? I have watched the video again and again and I don't come to that conclusion. It says that the more upgrades your modules have the cooler they'll be after the update, I understand that as a conversion based on something else other that breaking up modules. Maybe you have other info, I don't know.

I don't know for certain, but I'm pretty sure. Willing to bet my account on it  :ph34r:

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

I hear moderators talk about "fair to new players"  ...I don't think there ARE new players...not many at least.  Have you played any Recruit battles recently?  They are filled with 90% experienced players that have made a new account.  I remember the days when there were new players and the people playing Recruit battles are not newbies.  So, basically, Tanki IS ignoring the wishes of it's long term established players. Tens of thousands of which have stopped playing Tanki altogether.  How many more are about to be lost...and for no real reason....only a handful of moderators, sycophants, and a few actual players like any of these changes of the past year or two. 

 

Tanki just doesn't care what we think...period.  They will do what they wish since it is their game and when it goes down the tubes, they will say it is natural attrition and the game's normal life cycle...not the real reason of toxic updates and their disregard for their player base.  They speak with tortured rationalizations and think in tortured rationalizations.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Please tell me more about how you already have too many batteries :D

Any amount is too many when I DON'T EVEN OWN A DRONE. How am I supposed to get one when I have to replace half of my garage already? By the time I get everything sorted out and buy a drone, i'm going to have a ton of batteries from chains.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Any amount is too many when I DON'T EVEN OWN A DRONE. How am I supposed to get one when I have to replace half of my garage already? By the time I get everything sorted out and buy a drone, i'm going to have a ton of batteries from chains.

Why would you have to replace half of your garage?

[Maf 32,300]

I hear moderators talk about "fair to new players"  ...I don't think there ARE new players...not many at least.  Have you played any Recruit battles recently?  They are filled with 90% experienced players that have made a new account.

The idea is that all these new updates (especially Mobile version) will attract new players. And maybe devs will start advertising Tanki again. being put into a battle against experienced alts is unfair, but hopefully MM will fix that at least to some extent.

 

Any amount is too many when I DON'T EVEN OWN A DRONE. How am I supposed to get one when I have to replace half of my garage already? By the time I get everything sorted out and buy a drone, i'm going to have a ton of batteries from chains.

We'll see. I'm sure it will be pretty cheap to buy a basic drone. Don't forget that they can be upgraded as well, so I'm assuming the initial price will be fairly low.

[Toma.Hawk 279]

That means if I have 3 weapons protection modules when the update comes I will have them in my garage but separated so I combine them?

[Maf 32,300]

That means if I have 3 weapons protection modules when the update comes I will have them in my garage but separated so I combine them?

Exactly. You'll be able to combine them with protections from other modules as well, in any combination.