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Can't imagine how any old timer can see a positive side to this...because the negatives are just too opaque

I know but we'll need to wait and see how much prizes will be for a single slot of protection aswell; perhaps they'll be extremely expensive. Either way, Legacy owners will lose equity. The fact that they will put rest of  the investment into batteries is a smack in the face for older players and just fuels this whole concept of using supplies to counter the other's supplies.

 

In the end what will we gain from it? Enemies will use drones too.. the only thing that comes from all of this is inflation of actual permanent equipment: the hulls and turrets along with their microupgrades.

 

I understand that the game needs constant development and players should never reach peak performance for so long that it becomes boring and repetitive. But the administration are seeking ways in consumables rather than permanent equipment and that's just cheap and unoriginal.

 

This is how I see it currently but again I do not know the final outcome so I don't have the right to judge what has been said in this V-LOG just yet.

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drones are basically like alterations for drugs... long ago, they nerfed railgun, hammer, twins and then later sold the old stuff back as alterations.. a few months ago they nerfed the cooldowns and duration of drugs and nerfed the repair... they are now increasing the duration with one of that drone... making it easier to use drugs with that other one... they now also make the repair more effective again with that last drone..

so yea... drones for drugs are basically like alterations are for turrets. taking something away so they can sell it back to us. excapt drones are worse cause to use them you have to buy 1 more drug..

as a non druger, i'm thankful for the few months drugs were nerfed cause it gacve me the chance to stand up to druggers... now, the time has come for me to return back to my rightful place, on my knees at the feet of buyers.

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What is happening to this game? How come there are huge changes every couple of months? Are we playing a beta version or a test drive? It is very frustration. I don't know how to get used to this game and keep losing my royalty to it. I believe many players have been leaving. Just look at the number of online players and we can see that at a steady state in a normal day, it is only around 20k now by comparing to around 40~50k when I first joined this game. 

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Maf

yes I watched it . and still not sold on them at all.. like Nives said in todays raw that our in put is important to the game .. well this seems not to be true when players have stated we don't want our 4 tear modules to go but yet there not listening to the players in put .. like Hazel said in the past minority rules ..

 

also there's a sale next week , nice way to add the new system to distract the issues

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4-tier modules should have been removed in the first place. After all, it's not exactly fair to allow people to keep such a significant gameplay-affecting item when no one else can obtain that item anymore.

 

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Why don't you ever use quotes? I won't get a notification for this mention, regardless of whether you hyperlink it or it or whatever. In any other topic I'd be likely to never see your reply.

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We'll see. I'm sure it will be pretty cheap to buy a basic drone. Don't forget that they can be upgraded as well, so I'm assuming the initial price will be fairly low.

Of course it will be cheap to buy a basic drone, but they're going to force me to buy a m2 drone that costs tens of thousands of crystals I won't have after I have to rebuy my protection.

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Of course it will be cheap to buy a basic drone, but they're going to force me to buy a m2 drone that costs tens of thousands of crystals I won't have after I have to rebuy my protection.

Why do you think you have to re-buy your protection? You will have all your modules, only they will be broken up into individual protections which you then combine into custom triple modules.

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Why do you think you have to re-buy your protection? You will have all your modules, only they will be broken up into individual protections which you then combine into custom triple modules.

I asked the same thing... :rolleyes:  

 

Don't think railgunz has watched the V-log or back-read the comments

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All the crying and whining for LGC modules.

 

Why I ask?

Players are saying that tanki does not focuses on its old players but tbh it has long cared about them and its time to get rid of it.

I have friends at brigadier who have 35%+ protections due to LGC I ask you all is it fair?

 

While I play with 20-25% protections playing with 35%+ protections is suicide, and tanki has finally taken a good step.

And then again I can't afford m3 protections rn, but with new sytem I may have the leisure of enjying magnum m3 protection.

 

So for me and many more mid ranks players its gonna be a good update as no long would the so called old players would pop up with legacy protections to beat my ass.

Same applies for high ranks, as now making to legends takes around 18 months so new players at legends suffer cause of this,

 

A game is good when it cares about a balance not for some bunch of so no lifers/ old players who are stuck in one game for a decade.

 

With that said I fully support the removal of legacy modules and to those who have a lot of problems leaving is the best option, because change is always inevitable.

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You people need to watch the video again and again to understand, you mods too.

 

Modules will not be converted directly to batteries, they'll be converted to the new system, all of them. If there's change left from the conversion, that change will be compensated in batteries.

 

And we still don't know how the conversion will happen. Stop assuming that our modules will be broken up into single protections. It's likely not a good idea to buy single modules today or during celebrations, I don't think modules will be broken up, that's just wishful thinking.

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Eh, it's pretty clear at this point. You get the highest protection for each turret from the modules you have and any duplicates get converted into batteries. I'll take my garage for example: 

  • Ursa T-H (Rico 50%, Magnum 50%, Isida 50%)
  • Prodigy LGC (Rail 50%, Thunder 43%, Shaft 29%, Fire 10%)
  • Emerald LGC (Thunder 50%, Twins 48%, Rail 19%)
  • Spider (Mine 50%)
  • Inferno LGC (Fire 31%, Twins 13%, Freeze 41%)
  • Irbis LGC (Isida 42%, Freeze 21%, Rico 15%)
  • Jade LGC (Shaft 45%, Hammer 15%, Smoky 25%, Thunder 12%)
  • I'll ignore the rest for the sake of simplicity

Then after the update I will get the following:

  • Individual protections saved in garage - Rico 50%, Magnum 50%, Isida 50%, Rail 50%, Thunder 50%, Mine 50%, Shaft 45%, Twins 48%, Freeze 41%, Fire 31%, Smoky 25%, Hammer 15%
  • Duplicate protections converted into batteries - Shaft 29%, Fire 10%, Rail 19%, Twins 13%, isida 41%, Freeze 21%, Rico 15%, Thunder 12%

The only thing we don't know is what exactly the conversion rate will be. I'm pretty sure it won't be direct (i.e. 1% = 1 battery), so it will probably be directly related to the amount you spent on the module and the upgrades, i.e. one 50% protection from a triple module will give a lot more batteries than two 35% protections from two triple modules. Maybe something like each 500 spent on modules will give 1 battery, so if you have a full MU triple module and all three of it's protections are duplicate, you'd get 1400 batteries, since you spent 700 000 on upgrading the module.

 

But I really don't want to make any wrong guesses about this. Best to wait until the conversion actually happens.

 

 

You'll find that the vast majority of people will disagree with you there. I can imagine the comments from people who already have a bunch of legendary paints they don't use anyway and all they get for their 50 full MU modules is a bunch more useless paints  :wacko:

Maf :X What if someone has 3 modules with rail protection 45%. Or 3 single module, fully microupgraded are a lot cheaper, than one tripple full MU. (3x100k vs 450k) It would be way fairer to convert them to new modules according to "crystals spent on them", regardless if you bought all of the MUs in 50% sale - you could do it the same way in new system aswell. It's not been said yet if a 50% protection now will equal to 50% protection after update, and the exact way how they will be transfered. Yes, we assumed the conversion of XT's, since that one was almost 100% clear, and still we weren't completely right, since we couldn't expect them refunding the extra in batteries. He tho, there are quite a number of ways, and the idea from how they want to convert XT's and their MUs could apply also here.

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How are you sure that's how the conversion will happen? I have watched the video again and again and I don't come to that conclusion. It says that the more upgrades your modules have the cooler they'll be after the update, I understand that as a conversion based on something else other that breaking up modules. Maybe you have other info, I don't know.

 

I don't know for certain, but I'm pretty sure. Willing to bet my account on it   :ph34r:

Thank you.

 


 

My suggestion to players is to not assume that the conversion will mean breaking up our current modules into single new modules. I wish it would be like that, but likely not happening. Wait for official news regarding this before buying single modules or upgrading current modules.

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Boycott

Stop playing this game for a week

to stop them adding stupid updates.

 

Thats actually viable now after the devs were nice enough to change the mission chains-not that I recommend it.

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At least there will be some compensation for removed modules. Given how much faith Tanki devs put in drones, it seems they will be a pretty important game mechanic and having batteries for them I feel will be more significant than we feel now. Actually no. LGC module owners are still being ripped off, because batteries are consumables and not permanent items.

 

That said, WHY THE HELL DO WE NEED DRONES?? Why do we need a stupid gimmick that improves supplies and encourages people to drug even more? Why do we need another consumable? Why does this consumable need to be powered by a new currency?? Energizer seemed really promising, now it's just stupid.

 

At least XT owners will get compensation for MUs on both pieces of equipment.

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4-tier modules should have been removed in the first place. After all, it's not exactly fair to allow people to keep such a significant gameplay-affecting item when no one else can obtain that item anymore.

 

P.S.

Why don't you ever use quotes? I won't get a notification for this mention, regardless of whether you hyperlink it or it or whatever. In any other topic I'd be likely to never see your reply.

Sir I do use them it was just that i had to run for something in real life and only had time to post your name .. these things happen in a real mom's world ..lol

also why is it that we  who have been here longer, then others have to have them  removed . if this was the way the game was to be played then they should have removed it long time ago and not now when most players are in the legend stages .

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All the crying and whining for LGC modules.

 

Why I ask?

Players are saying that tanki does not focuses on its old players but tbh it has long cared about them and its time to get rid of it.

I have friends at brigadier who have 35%+ protections due to LGC I ask you all is it fair?

 

While I play with 20-25% protections playing with 35%+ protections is suicide, and tanki has finally taken a good step.

And then again I can't afford m3 protections rn, but with new sytem I may have the leisure of enjying magnum m3 protection.

 

So for me and many more mid ranks players its gonna be a good update as no long would the so called old players would pop up with legacy protections to beat my ass.

Same applies for high ranks, as now making to legends takes around 18 months so new players at legends suffer cause of this,

 

A game is good when it cares about a balance not for some bunch of so no lifers/ old players who are stuck in one game for a decade.

 

With that said I fully support the removal of legacy modules and to those who have a lot of problems leaving is the best option, because change is always inevitable.

Well Mr.communist, you certainly lost my respect right there,

 

We'll see how your reaction would be when you're proudly in the possession of special unavailble items due to your longer stay in this game; and then some massive conversion comes out of nowhere where you not only lose that special item but also (quite a bit of) equity in the process.

 

Good day sir.

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A game is good when it cares about a balance not for some bunch of so no lifers/ old players who are stuck in one game for a decade.

 

With that said I fully support the removal of legacy modules and to those who have a lot of problems leaving is the best option, because change is always inevitable.

I agree here. However, LGC module owners should still be compensated even if it is necessary to remove them for balance. Compensation in a new, consumable currency is very dodgy.

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All the crying and whining for LGC modules.

 

Why I ask?

Players are saying that tanki does not focuses on its old players but tbh it has long cared about them and its time to get rid of it.

I have friends at brigadier who have 35%+ protections due to LGC I ask you all is it fair?

 

While I play with 20-25% protections playing with 35%+ protections is suicide, and tanki has finally taken a good step.

And then again I can't afford m3 protections rn, but with new sytem I may have the leisure of enjying magnum m3 protection.

 

So for me and many more mid ranks players its gonna be a good update as no long would the so called old players would pop up with legacy protections to beat my ass.

Same applies for high ranks, as now making to legends takes around 18 months so new players at legends suffer cause of this ****,

 

A game is good when it cares about a balance not for some bunch of so no lifers/ old players who are stuck in one game for a decade.

 

With that said I fully support the removal of legacy modules and to those who have a lot of problems leaving is the best option, because change is always inevitable.

sir for one if and when you reach the level that some of us who have been here for years and been playing daily , then you would understand why we complain so much. also this new drone / battery system thing looks like it will be adding more drugs to players accounts giving us more unbalanced matches then ever before. regardless about MM.. I play it in tanki X and there is no balanced matches when half or more on one team uses drugs and then out comes ..surprise a drone and other items it really wreaks  the chance of even playing . and yea in time what is there will be coming in . my predictions on this . seeing were all ready heading that way in other things we have.. best advice is to  go battle in tanki X and then you might understand why were not fond of this new system.

 

also I have four   .. 4 tear systems fully upgraded and a bunch of 3 and 2 systems also some ones systems ,  some have been upgraded but not by far like the 4 tears.

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I agree here. However, LGC module owners should still be compensated even if it is necessary to remove them for balance. Compensation in a new, consumable currency is very dodgy.

As maf said if they give crystals its bad for us so sometimes people need to compromise.

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Well Mr.communist, you certainly lost my respect right there,

 

We'll see how your reaction would be when you're proudly in the possession of special unavailble items due to your longer stay in this game; and then some massive conversion comes out of nowhere where you not only lose that special item but also (quite a bit of) equity in the process.

 

Good day sir.

I kept my point if that possesion gives me unfair advantage I would never want it.

I get it that the crystals spent is whats causing this series of negative reactions but again if they would give crystals new players like me would always be at a disadvantage.

 

As I said its necessary for balance.

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Sir I do use them it was just that i had to run for something in real life and only had time to post your name .. these things happen in a real mom's world ..lol

also why is it that we  who have been here longer, then others have to have them  removed . if this was the way the game was to be played then they should have removed it long time ago and not now when most players are in the legend stages .

I understand that all modules will be converted to the new modules, then only the change, as in pocket change I guess, will be converted to batteries. That's why they said that all old modules will be removed, and that's good because we don't need two systems.

 

But since few people like Drones, Devs might rethink Drones, and we may get crystals instead of batteries.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it might be a good idea to buy a module during the next sale. Right now I have 1 triple M2 module. Let's say I buy a new M2 module with protection for 3 other turrets. After the introduction of the new modules I would have 6 seperate single M2 modules which I can use in the new system, right? In that case I buy 1 or maybe 2 triple modules, so I have 6 (or maybe 9) seperate modules for the new system.  :)

 

Don't know what to think of the drones  :huh:

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sir for one if and when you reach the level that some of us who have been here for years and been playing daily , then you would understand why we complain so much. also this new drone / battery system thing looks like it will be adding more drugs to players accounts giving us more unbalanced matches then ever before. regardless about MM.. I play it in tanki X and there is no balanced matches when half or more on one team uses drugs and then out comes ..surprise a drone and other items it really wreaks  the chance of even playing . and yea in time what is there will be coming in . my predictions on this . seeing were all ready heading that way in other things we have.. best advice is to  go battle in tanki X and then you might understand why were not fond of this new system.

 

also I have four   .. 4 tear systems fully upgraded and a bunch of 3 and 2 systems also some ones systems ,  some have been upgraded but not by far like the 4 tears.

Honestly It's good to play a game but getting addicted is not good, so I am against playing for so very long but thats my perspective.

I have played TankiX and I will keep my point, MM is not a small thing and it needs time ans resources to build a perfect compatible system so whining cus of TankiX is really weird.

 

Drugs come on, everyone has them now and I don't get how they still cause imbalance? If one team drugs so can the other one.

 

And most importantly WE NEVER ASKED FOR IT.

This attitude triggers me the most, like this I who asked for a game called TAnki Online, who asked for a rebalance, who asked for changes in crstal boxes, no one!

But has the game not changed?

Has the Tanki that once was on Win xP now going to be on mobile platforms?

 

Change is never good or bad, change is always a step to the future, you stop it you remain stuck and then you get bored and then you quit.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it might be a good idea to buy a module during the next sale. Right now I have 1 triple M2 module. Let's say I buy a new M2 module with protection for 3 other turrets. After the introduction of the new modules I would have 6 seperate single M2 modules which I can use in the new system, right? In that case I buy 1 or maybe 2 triple modules, so I have 6 (or maybe 9) seperate modules for the new system.  :)

 

Don't know what to think of the drones  :huh:

Yeah, I'm thinking my Captain account should do the same thing - buy a triple module for turrets not already covered.

 

Good thing I've unlocked the module with Shaft, Magnum & Ricco... B)

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