Matchmaking is coming May 29th

[Electra 733]

Hello, the update is great. Good job Tanki community! But... there is one fail right now. The friendslist... The friendslist is struggling so much since this update came in the game. I know it's not only my problem, many people suffer from it. Please fix it @Devs!

 

, tell them, please  :ph34r:

Edited May 30, 2018 by Electra

[Benefactor 6,888]

Hi everyone? How ya' doin'? How do you guys have time to collect 62 pages of posts?!

Easy. Time spent while waiting to be placed in battle by the new Match Making System.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

On this new matchmaking update, players are reporting how it's a bug within the game to get paired with lower rankers (noobs). While this may be true, it's rather a small bug because people purposely friend noob accounts with super low ranks and create a group with them, Say you're a Legend inviting a Recruit friend with you into battle, the matchmaking will just take you into some random battle with an awkward M0 Recruit in it; so for those saying this update is trash, stop crying. With the new mission save update, you will no longer lose chain progress, and besides the missions are SO easy. If you don't like the settings, PLAY PRO-BATTLES! Please do not cry about the update because it is literally pointless. 

[girl_from_kurdistanX 383]

remove this update . :angry: 

[mani333 25]

All right, you've made me post again after a long while. First of all, I know you guys've spent a lot of time and effort into making this feature as good as it can be. Thank you for trying. However, I have to echo what every other player on here suggests - MM is a really bad feature that has the power to completely ruin this already dying game. If your only goal now is to squeeze every last cent out of players' pockets before this game is no more, go ahead. Otherwise, it'd be wise to listen to us and revert this change. I understand making money is ultimately why you're here, but if you cannot realize that you'd make more money eventually by keeping it alive rather than to kill the goose that lays golden eggs, well, you deserve it.

 

I doubt anyone'll read this far, but if you have, I'll try to keep my post short enough while satisfying myself of the need to complain. I've read the main goals of MM and I can assure you not one of them has been achieved. I gave it a full day before I comment here - So I know what I'm talking about. 

 

Problems MM created:

1. Long wait times
2. Unfair battles - Both in terms of quantity of players and in terms of their ranks
3. The best feature of Tanki - "The Friend List" is completely ruined. Not only can you not invite friends to help you out or try to help them out in losing conditions, you cannot even see their games or chat with them since you do not know if they're in a battle.
4. Players with specific tastes do not have the ability to choose the map they want to play on.
5. Can never play with more than 4 friends. (Pro battles are very few and are not good - Do not count them)
6. Cannot chat or do anything else while waiting.
7. Players like FREEDOM - Taking it away is never a good option, EVER.
8. I cannot go AFK for a few minutes without leaving a group due to potentially being unable to join the group later - Is that your way of forcing us glued to Tanki? Makes it very enjoyable indeed (Sarcasm, FYI)
9. I know there're tons more as people above have listed (multiple times), so Imma leave this open...

 

Players are going to circumvent this by using pro battles - Killing the purpose of MM. However, that will never be as effective as the non-MM Tanki was. Many players will probably move on to newer and better games like Fortnite. You guys are going to think that you can "fix" MM by adding some more irrelevant features or by fixing minor features like Group chats. None of them will compensate for the good gameplay and the great choices you've taken away from us. I call it. I hate to repeat what everyone else is saying for the millionth time, but "Would you please JUST LISTEN to us?" - We paid and loved and kept this game alive. We deserve a chance to prolong the inevitable Tanki's death.

 

And finally, mults and unbalanced teams are always going to be a part of this game - You CANNOT get rid of it. It is an optimization problem where your goal is to minimize mults while maximizing the fun of the game (which ultimately maximizes profit). A game with no mults would be achieved the day there are zero players. You've proven you're good problem solvers but now you need to focus on what the problem you're actually trying to solve is. If you read this and go, "But I've put into several months of work into this... I cannot revert", well, you've fallen into the doom every product manager faced before their product died. I hope you do the right thing - It takes guts to admit you're not perfect. Anyways, here's to hoping this is not my final post on here. Cheers!

 

(Got too long, sorry - I'd love to hear if you believe I'm wrong)

[GM_HEROTAN2 21]

i dont like this update lol too long and cant choose my battle

[HappyPotter 3]

The matchmaking system is useless at this point. 

1. The same unbalanced battles as before
     a.) When a group joins a team, the system should render another group in the opposite team, to make it fair.
         Why? Because groups playing against random players will make the battle unbalanced
     b.) When someone leaves the battle, a new player who was in the waiting line should be rendered to the battle. 
          There is no point in playing against a team which outnumbers yours.

2. The problem with mults is not in regular battles. Who's sending mults in a 10 minutes long battle? 
    The multing, sabotage problem is not solved with this update, since it's an issue in Pro Battles (especially long Pro Battles).
    Now, you can say we can vote the player and mods will take care of that. Based on my experience of almost 4 years in Tanki (this is        not my  only account), in 90% of the cases mods are as useless as this update. This is not their fault, of course. They are either                overwhelmed by the requests, or some of them are hand in hand with cheaters. All in all, sabotage is definitely not solved by this              update.

Bottom line, this update is a big circus for nothing. 

Edited May 30, 2018 by HappyPotter

[DRAKO523 795]

​Wew, the big mistake of following this topic "​357 Notifications" Most complaints here are regarding the amount of time it takes you to enter a Map, why not just click the "exit​" button when it reach's 2 minutes max? I mean c'mon you guys must have spent like 2 minutes before looking for a battle with the winning team​ that would take around 2 minutes eh, or even more if your looking for a specific map, mode but strongest team maybe even takes up to 5 minutes lol. So yeah if it just takes more then 2 minutes to load simply click "exit​" and click it again. I myself - still haven't experienced any kind of loading issues, lags, long time taken to enter a battle it takes me around 2-5 seconds or even up to 20 seconds to enter a map using MMS, and always puts me into a reasonable fun and challenging maps, some tanker's need to stop looking at the negative side of the update and look at the positive for a few minutes  :P

Edited May 30, 2018 by DRAKO523

[sharjeel_777 987]

Seems like Devs are working Hard;Today i have no Lag,can easily Enter the Battle,so till now it is Good update,what happened tomorrow cannot say about that,Till now there is only One problem left according to me that it takes too much time to enter the garage during the battle and also in non pro battle how to see the battle fund?

[DRAKO523 795]

How to see the battle fund?

In the v-log it stated that you won't be able to view the battle fund :I.

[Potdindy 866]

All right, you've made me post again after a long while. First of all, I know you guys've spent a lot of time and effort into making this feature as good as it can be. Thank you for trying. However, I have to echo what every other player on here suggests - MM is a really bad feature that has the power to completely ruin this already dying game. If your only goal now is to squeeze every last cent out of players' pockets before this game is no more, go ahead. Otherwise, it'd be wise to listen to us and revert this change. I understand making money is ultimately why you're here, but if you cannot realize that you'd make more money eventually by keeping it alive rather than to kill the goose that lays golden eggs, well, you deserve it.

 

I doubt anyone'll read this far, but if you have, I'll try to keep my post short enough while satisfying myself of the need to complain. I've read the main goals of MM and I can assure you not one of them has been achieved. I gave it a full day before I comment here - So I know what I'm talking about. 

 

Problems MM created:

1. Long wait times
2. Unfair battles - Both in terms of quantity of players and in terms of their ranks
3. The best feature of Tanki - "The Friend List" is completely ruined. Not only can you not invite friends to help you out or try to help them out in losing conditions, you cannot even see their games or chat with them since you do not know if they're in a battle.
4. Players with specific tastes do not have the ability to choose the map they want to play on.
5. Can never play with more than 4 friends. (Pro battles are very few and are not good - Do not count them)
6. Cannot chat or do anything else while waiting.
7. Players like FREEDOM - Taking it away is never a good option, EVER.
8. I cannot go AFK for a few minutes without leaving a group due to potentially being unable to join the group later - Is that your way of forcing us glued to Tanki? Makes it very enjoyable indeed (Sarcasm, FYI)
9. I know there're tons more as people above have listed (multiple times), so Imma leave this open...

 

Players are going to circumvent this by using pro battles - Killing the purpose of MM. However, that will never be as effective as the non-MM Tanki was. Many players will probably move on to newer and better games like Fortnite. You guys are going to think that you can "fix" MM by adding some more irrelevant features or by fixing minor features like Group chats. None of them will compensate for the good gameplay and the great choices you've taken away from us. I call it. I hate to repeat what everyone else is saying for the millionth time, but "Would you please JUST LISTEN to us?" - We paid and loved and kept this game alive. We deserve a chance to prolong the inevitable Tanki's death.

 

And finally, mults and unbalanced teams are always going to be a part of this game - You CANNOT get rid of it. It is an optimization problem where your goal is to minimize mults while maximizing the fun of the game (which ultimately maximizes profit). A game with no mults would be achieved the day there are zero players. You've proven you're good problem solvers but now you need to focus on what the problem you're actually trying to solve is. If you read this and go, "But I've put into several months of work into this... I cannot revert", well, you've fallen into the doom every product manager faced before their product died. I hope you do the right thing - It takes guts to admit you're not perfect. Anyways, here's to hoping this is not my final post on here. Cheers!

 

(Got too long, sorry - I'd love to hear if you believe I'm wrong)

Probably the most well written post yet. I would echo his words of understanding of all the work that goes on behind the scenes to make these things happen. There are actually some really good things that I like from this update. Whoever decided to change the fund distribution should get a medal. I also would say that the group system is fun...placing me and friends together. There is something else, but I've completely forgotten. The point is that there is some good from all of this, and it might be best to take the good and keep it regardless of whether the rest stays, and we can be thankful for the devs continued work on this.

 

Oh one good thing I remembered. People are complaining so much that I have yet to hear one "Admin gold plz" :D

[NOOBS-X 388]

     Match Making System   

[Aunty_Entity 245]

>Shut it with the "we don't want to wait". I and a bunch of other tankers demonstrated during the first test that you spend in excess of 1 minute >looking for battles on your own, winning teams, proper ranks, favorite maps, etc etc.

 

But when you spend time looking for battles, YOU are doing something, and you join a battle that looks favourable to you.  Instead of

waiting 1m 30s to be dumped into some battle where nothing looks remotely like what you want or expect.

 

Aunty

[Prejudice 8]

Definitely the game is going south ever since the update of no missions in pro battles....and now with this MMS...the game is at the brink of jumping off the cliff...tanki pls instead of removing pro battles from missions instead u could have programmed in ways to prevent any cheating on missions...now idk how to do that cos if I did...I would be in your chairs...and then this MMS is pathetic...it has brought more problems than it has solved for now..and the wait is just bad....pls restore it back to the way it was.

 

Waterboy3

[Aunty_Entity 245]

 I mean c'mon you guys must have spent like 2 minutes before looking for a battle with the winning team​ that would take around 2 minutes eh, or even more if your looking for a specific map, mode but strongest team maybe even takes up to 5 minutes lol. So yeah if it just takes more then 2 minutes to load simply click "exit​" and click it again. I myself - still haven't experienced any kind of loading issues, lags, long time taken to enter a battle it takes me around 2-5 seconds or even up to 20 seconds to enter a map using MMS, and always puts me into a reasonable fun and challenging maps, some tanker's need to stop looking at the negative side of the update and look at the positive for a few minutes  :P

 

The difference is when you search for 2 minutes you get what you want, map or team, friends or something else.  Not dumped into some

badly planned team, on some far away map, that you're not prepared for.

[DRAKO523 795]

 

​Not sure about your experience with bad teams etc..But mine is going pretty well, not quit balanced yet but okay, maybe we should just give it a bit more time ;p

[Aunty_Entity 245]

should rename this topic from "Matchmaking is coming", to "match making is fortescued!"  :)

[Sign.Of.The.Cross 86]

Yesterday, when I wrote here those words I thought this update is not really so bad. But today, after I saw the real dimension of this catastrophe called the biggest 'update' in Tanki, I can say that this update is disgusting and an insult for many players, buyers or not. It's simply a misery...

 

In 2013 when I started playing Tanki I saw 90.000 players here: https://tankionline.com/graphic.swf. This week I see only 27.000. Even the Tanki staff tried to convince the players some time ago that this graphic is not relevant in these days, I think is still relevant and is not good what we see there.

 

In my first years in Tanki my friends tried to convince me to play WOT. But I told them that Tanki is more funny than WOT and I will remain a Tanki player. And today I see that my funny game Tanki is dead and my friends had right.

 

I can't believe that this hideous thing at which I stare on my screen is Tanki Online.

 

Tanki is going in a wrong direction...

 

PS

Since yesterday, my clan mates removed a word from their vocabulary: smile. It's like at a funeral there and I hear them saying one by one "probably I will stop playing Tanki". Thank you for this, Alternativa Platform! I appreciate very much!

Edited May 30, 2018 by Sign.Of.The.Cross

[brainhoo 735]

YOU"RE GONNA KILL THE GAME ON YOUR BIRTHDAY TANKI!! THIS MM COMPLETELY SUCKS!

[AutopsyDark 0]

YOU"RE GONNA KILL THE GAME ON YOUR BIRTHDAY TANKI!! THIS MM COMPLETELY SUCKS!

they already killed it 

[redlinezak 11]

I tried to play last night but just sat there loading - gave up after 10 mins.

Will try again tonight but it's not sounding too promising from the sounds of things here.

 

I'm honestly not sure what the Devs are thinking - why they wont ever listen to their customers who keep the game alive is beyond me.

[terrierist1967 34]

65 pages and growing...

 

Tanki, please recognise that the majority of players are unhappy with this update and would like it suspended.

 

Granted, there are a whole lot of troll posts in here, but discount them and there is a genuine unrest within the community.

 

The Mods are doing a great job trying to put a positive spin on things but I don't think they were prepared for this backlash against this *update*.

 

Please, can we have some direction/information about this update being removed, or is it going to become a permanent feature? If it stays, I am sure many will look at finding alternative games, I have started already and that saddens me after the amount of money I have spent playing Tanki.

 

Read the above again, please, paying customers are asking you to remove this update.

[DRAKO523 795]

I tried to play last night but just sat there loading - gave up after 10 mins.Will try again tonight but it's not sounding too promising from the sounds of things here.

 

​Most complaints here are regarding the amount of time it takes you to enter a Map, why not just click the "exit​" button when it reach's 2 minutes max? I mean c'mon you guys must have spent like 2 minutes before looking for a battle with the winning team​ that would take around 2 minutes eh, or even more if your looking for a specific map, mode but strongest team maybe even takes up to 5 minutes lol. So yeah if it just takes more then 2 minutes to load simply click "exit​" and click it again.

[AutopsyDark 0]

​Not sure about your experience with bad teams etc..But mine is going pretty well, not quit balanced yet but okay, maybe we should just give it a bit more time ;p

yep we can get that somehow you got benifitted by that and you maybe a premium user but let me tell you ,you can own your score by money and it can make you a profitable gamer but never a good gamer. Only drugs no skills at all.

[CabbageRoll 3,018]

its funny how developers dont care well they should care because they will lose their last buyers soon