Matchmaking is coming May 29th

[AlanCarter 11]

Legends are still playing.

 

Druggers are still druggin'

 

The Russians still won't speak English to you..

 

Nothing's changed at all...

 

= successful update

[Viking4s 10,791]

MM seems better now with the recent maintenance. Waiting times are better, no more ridiculous rank spread, battles are balanced for the most part. 1 min waiting is still too long though.

 

Also: battle points seem to always be multiples of 5. Has anyone else noticed this?

Yes most of the battle points are multiple of 5, with one exception, Isida! When they heal it can be any number of BP between 1-10, therefore players with this turret will be easy to spot now :D

 

Number of personal battles point (on the scoreboard) per battle actions: 

 

ASL Deliver a flag: 50 BP 

 

CP Capping: 25 BP 

 

CTF Capping: 50 BP / Return Flag: 10 BP / Assist: ? / Flag taker: ?

 

DM BP = number of tank you killed 

 

RGB Scoring goal: 50 BP  / Assist: ?

 

TDM A full kill: 10 BP / Assist kill: 5 BP 

Edited June 2, 2018 by Viking4s

[Mustard 531]

Yes most of the battle points are multiple of 5, with one exception, Isida! When they heal it can be any number of BP between 1-10, therefore players with this turret will be easy to spot now :D

 

Number of personal battles point (on the scoreboard) per battle actions: 

 

ASL Deliver a flag: 50 BP 

 

CP Capping: 25 BP 

 

CTF Capping: 50 BP / Return Flag: 10 BP / Assist ?

 

DM BP = number of tank you killed 

 

RGB Scoring goal: 50 BP  / Assist: ?

 

TDM A full kill: 10 BP / Assist kill: 5 BP 

CTF Assisted captures will give 25 BP

Same goes for RGB, just tested them both.

[Xer0ne 43]

You are very right if you talk about deathmatch.

But in teammodes it's a bit different, as there "beeing first" does not get you payed more crystals/xp then beeing mid or last of your team.

Being 1st in your team means you scored the most in your team and you will get the most in your team.

[Viking4s 10,791]

CTF Assisted captures will give 25 BP

Same goes for RGB, just tested them both.

:ph34r: There is no flag assist in ASL :ph34r:  My bad

Thanks for the info 

It used to give some point to the tanker who take the flag too.

[Sign.Of.The.Cross 86]

These are "fail platoons." Legend forms a battle group with low rankers, and there you go. Notice how besides these two guys the ranks are more or less equal.

   I'm 'glad' that Viking4s as a moderator likes your comment.  I wish to both of you to play only with very low ranks from now on and to come here every day to say what brilliant update is the MMS. 

 

   Viking4s, what you do as moderator, to appreciate this stupid situation is sad and dangerous for players and for developers in the same measure. I know why this happens, the problem is that this shouldn't happen and if all you can do as moderator is to give a like to that comment is not good.

 

   Every one here can have an opinion, and my opinion is that you shouldn't be a moderator here because all you do here is just to take a bow in front of developers at every update instead of having back bone and to have an honest and constructive dialog with the players, to say that this is good and that is not good. But for you everything is fine after 104 pages on this thread, as I see.

 

  Maybe there are some kids who wants to play with their friends with low ranks and don't realize they will be slaughtered by fully MU-ed Legends and this is bad for the future of this game. And you come here to give a like to a comment of a player who says this situation is not a problem.

 

  You are a shame, Viking4s! What you just did confirm what I said yesterday about the EN moderators. Sad...

  But this is only my opinion, of course.

[Mustard 531]

:ph34r: There is no flag assist in ASL :ph34r:  My bad

Thanks for the info 

It use to give some point to the tanker who take the flag too.

There's a very short delay until the flag is automatically returned when the flag carrier dies.

I was trying to do this but the flag goes returns too fast. edit: Nevermind, it doesn't count as an assist flag capture but a full one.

 

You're welcome.

Edited June 2, 2018 by Mustard

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Soon we'll have just one map and hulls that look different but share the stats.

Actually, I believe we will be getting hats for our tanks next which can be adorned with feathers and suchlike to enhance our killing prowess. They have super abilities, available in the shop to purchase, which are micro-upgradable to an additional 50% but will be replaced by rhubarb sticks in 18 months time (so don't buy too many). Rhubarb sticks will be modular by design, that is to say they come in 5 pieces. These pieces can be enhanced by buying magic wands in the shop and by collecting spells in special maps (standard battles only of course).

 

[emrakul 7,801]

There's a very short delay until the flag is automatically returned when the flag carrier dies.

I was trying to do this but the flag goes returns too fast. edit: Nevermind, it doesn't count as an assist flag capture but a full one.

 

You're welcome.

It may be a bug, or just result of ping, and the few miliseconds flag return time, but once it happened to me that I took a flag after a player in front of me died (and I capped it), while I was driving just behind him. Never managed to repeat it.

[Viking4s 10,791]

   I'm 'glad' that Viking4s as a moderator likes your comment.  I wish to both of you to play only with very low ranks from now on and to come here every day to say what brilliant update is the MMS. 

 

   Viking4s, what you do as moderator, to appreciate this stupid situation is sad and dangerous for players and for developers in the same measure. I know why this happens, the problem is that this shouldn't happen and if all you can do as moderator is to give a like to that comment is not good.

 

   Every one here can have an opinion, and my opinion is that you shouldn't be a moderator here because all you do here is just to take a bow in front of developers at every update instead of having back bone and to have an honest and constructive dialog with the players, to say that this is good and that is not good. But for you everything is fine after 104 pages on this thread, as I see.

 

  Maybe there are some kids who wants to play with their friends with low ranks and don't realize they will be slaughtered by fully MU-ed Legends and this is bad for the future of this game. And you come here to give a like to a comment of a player who says this situation is not a problem.

 

  You are a shame, Viking4s! What you just did confirm what I said yesterday about the EN moderators. Sad...

  But this is only my opinion, of course.

Your opinion is your opinion, and you expressed it many time already in that thread (it is still there).

The situation you describe is the ability to introduce in your own team low ranks via the group function. Kids do that for fun, for videos, just to mult, or trying to prove to the developer that MM is not working. Originally it was meant so friends that grow apart on ranks could play again together. 

 

The group system is not the MMBC it is part of if but it is not what makes MMBC. It actually biased the MM function who tried to adjust both team. I find equally naive that the developer didn't restrict this function from the start (they acknowledge the overlook of this in the v-log 172) and the fact that you use this to blame MMBC.

In contrary the more screenshot you post about the group function abuse, the better. I'm for the restriction of the rank for the group functions (I already expressed it in that thread).

 

It's rare to see happy player actually acknowledging it, they just carry on playing. The number of pages illustrates how the new set up frustrate and also touch a big part of the game mechanics. Unfortunately MMBC will not go away, it certainly has to improve to be more user-friendly while achieving all the other benefits as described in the original post.

(I'm too old to feel any shame)

[Commander_Rose 327]

:ph34r: There is no flag assist in ASL :ph34r:  My bad

:lol:

[Google2_FX 0]

What is this? I can't complete my missions anymore!

[Ninja 10,468]

What is this? I can't complete my missions anymore!

You can only complete them in matchmaking battles. Click the Battle! Button then choose whichever mode you want to play. 

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Didn't even bother to log into today...I might later, but I think maybe Tanki is on the way out for me anyway.  Before MM, that would have been almost unthinkable.

[EzS 42]

When battle waiting time is 1 M, why i need to wait it 12 M? maybe it's something wrong with my Tanki? Help me guys ^_^

[NXS_Neta_King 654]

if tanki wont remove this update just a lot of people will leave this game.. 

look how many people is against this update

Edited June 2, 2018 by NXS_Neta_King

[shibe123 136]

Ranking System

 

The current rating system is very confusing for me and I do know a better way to implement the rating system. The developers can divide the ratings into groups, for example, people of this rating is under one group with a specific name like gold, silver, bronze or whatever name the developers choose. In the matchmaking process, players are matches according to their group, gold matched with gold and bronze matched with bronze. Every battle determines an incredse in their rating or decrease depending on their performance in the battle. When their rating drops too much, they are demoted to a lower rating group and when they play well and sooner exceeds the cut of point of the new group, they are promoted. Every group has a nice reward be it crystals or other things like season paints where the tanki online artists can design. Every season can last 3 months or however the developers want it. After each season, the rating season is refresthed and people are all demoted accordingly. For example, after a tanker reaches the highest group possible and the season ends, the tanker is demoted lets say 3 groups down. You do not want the tanker to be demoted to the lowest group along with other weaeker tankers because then the weaker tankers would have a hard time. This system is good because it can make sure every tanker acutally plays properly. You can also implement a system where if players leave a match, their rating increases and drops depending on the performance in the battle. This can allow better players to play with better players and they will actually concentrate and try their best to win the game. However, this system may be too intense for some people. Thus I also suggest that there are two types of games, ranked and normal/classic games. This way when players want to just relax, they can choose to play classic games and not have their rating affected. This can probably solve the problem of recruits joining the legend battles too because they are not in the same rating group. I hope this idea can be implemented.

[Hate 5,582]

 

Topic merged.

[Sign.Of.The.Cross 86]

Your opinion is your opinion...

 

   1. Thanks for not removing my comments, you or your colleagues. I appreciate but I won't be very surprised if will be removed.

 

   2. Recruits playing with/against legends, veterans with many years in Tanki is very bad, but this will remain in game at least in the near future, how devs said. Why? Simply because they want this, without any other logic explanation behind of those few words they already said.

 

   3. I will make a short parenthesis. I saw yesterday a review on YT of The Crew 2 game which will be launched probably this month. In the first game players were forced to accomplish the objectives in a certain order. The players didn't like this, they complained about this and the developers got their lesson from players. With this sequel, they listened the players and they can now accomplish the objectives in any order, how they like.

 

     On an article on other site:

 

       "The Crew was one of the more ambitious games of the console generation when it launched in 2014.

         But in spite of its ambition, the failure of the The Crew was oddly simple: It just wasn’t fun to play.

        ...I learned that one of the most frequent requests from players of The Crew was to be given the freedom to make their own stories. Apparently, the linearity of the first game turned enough fans off that Ivory Tower decided it would be best to follow in the footsteps of its peers and let players loose on the massive virtual landmass it built, rather than craft another guided experience.

"

Here is the link, for these sentences: http://bgr.com/2018/05/16/the-crew-2-preview-gameplay-video/

 

What I want to say is that is a big fracture now in Tanki Online between players and the developers. What is not clear is where is this fracture: between players and moderators, between moderators and the CM or between CM and the devs. Or simply the devs don't care what the players say because they "have balls to do this". 

 

Others had balls too (or were simply too stupid) and they burnt. Are so many cases of such video games. Others learned something and the players (customers) and the developers were all happy in the end.

 

Would be sad that Tanki, which was a nice and funny game till few years ago, to slowly disappear only because how someone very well said here, the devs know better than the players what is good for them. 

 

I liked very much Tanki but now is very ugly because the MMS destroyed all the fun of this game and your friends, including your clan mates, with only 3 exceptions, will remain only some names in a useless list on the screen.

 

I'm very disappointed by this update and I can't imagine that one day the devs can come with another update worst than this one. Maybe the idea was good, but the implementation, just like for the other updates in the last years, was disastrous.

 

The developers will listen the players? Probably not! Too bad for all of us: players, moderators, developers and...Tanki Online...

Edited June 2, 2018 by Sign.Of.The.Cross

[CooperO 7,956]

When battle waiting time is 1 M, why i need to wait it 12 M? maybe it's something wrong with my Tanki? Help me guys ^_^

Those long waiting times still need to be fixed. In the mean time, click 'exit' if the waiting time exceeds a few minutes and try again. That should take you to a battle much faster than in 12 minutes.

[L_O_S_T_H_O_P_E 8]

Sometimes I do not know anymore, where I am here.

When I started playing exactly three years ago, there were loads of nice people here and it was free to play.

80 to 100 thousand user a day, in the late evening a little less. Currently there are about 23 thousand people online and in the evening it goes down to 8 thousand people. After one year, as soon I reached the general rank, TO started gradually changing everything. 

 

Today I am legendary, incapacitated, censored. banned, harassed and soon I will be expropriated too. 

 

This is more than outrageous. Free is nothing anymore here. 

For me, that's the sheer theft, because I worked and paid for it.

That I will be compensated adequately for the modules they will take away from me, I do not believe anymore. The last update has finally taken me to believe in the integrity of the TO makers.

 

Here I'm nothing more than a milking cowe...

 

But I will not put up with that.

I will not go away and give up what I have laboriously built up in three years with also a few hundred euros invest. And I will not stop to play too. 

 

This MMS is the biggest mistake what TO has ever brought into this game, because it does not work back and forth.The TO makers think they are sitting on the longer lever, but here they're wrong.

Legal steps are pointless with this Eula.

But there are enough other ways to fight back. A anti TO facebook page for example.

Or even better: simply do not buy anything anymore.

Do not invest not even one cent here anymore. Not until they have taken back this stupid MMS. Because one thing is certain - not we do need TO, but TO needs it`s users.

23 thousand users have to pay the monthly income of about one hundred employees. That will not work, it can´t. Let's see how long they can do it, if no one pays even a single cent from all users. I´m sure, with the obvious greed of the TO makers that they will not last long.

So stay close, think about it. We are all in the same boat.

And together we will show how strong we are!

 

greetings from germany

 

L_Ö_S_T_H_O_P_E  

Edited June 2, 2018 by Viking4s
kindly refrain from using inappropriate word

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

When battle waiting time is 1 M, why i need to wait it 12 M? maybe it's something wrong with my Tanki? Help me guys ^_^

Sure, they could make it shorter...almost instantaneous, but then people would leave battles more often because they could join a different battle in a heartbeat.

 

The long wait is engineered into MM to coerce players into staying for duration of a whole battle.  It's part of Tanki's plan to "help" us play the game.

 

12 minutes is a long time.  After a couple or three minutes, I just exit and try again.  But the 1 or 2 minute wait will never go away.

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Here's an idea that might take hold.  I pledge $200 US if Tanki gets rid of MatchMaking. 

 

Let's all put our money where our hearts are...offer Tanki CASH to repeal this detestable abortion of a downgrade; MatchMaking.  It's not a bad idea really...you get crystals or whatever, Tanki gets income and we get our game back!

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

after waiting for 20 minutes i got sent to a battle with 1 minute left. I didn't even have enough time to change equipment before the battle ended  <_< 

[Dies-Irae 49]

Your opinion is your opinion, and you expressed it many time already in that thread (it is still there).

The situation you describe is the ability to introduce in your own team low ranks via the group function. Kids do that for fun, for videos, just to mult, or trying to prove to the developer that MM is not working. Originally it was meant so friends that grow apart on ranks could play again together. 

 

The group system is not the MMBC it is part of if but it is not what makes MMBC. It actually biased the MM function who tried to adjust both team. I find equally naive that the developer didn't restrict this function from the start (they acknowledge the overlook of this in the v-log 172) and the fact that you use this to blame MMBC.

In contrary the more screenshot you post about the group function abuse, the better. I'm for the restriction of the rank for the group functions (I already expressed it in that thread).

 

It's rare to see happy player actually acknowledging it, they just carry on playing. The number of pages illustrates how the new set up frustrate and also touch a big part of the game mechanics. Unfortunately MMBC will not go away, it certainly has to improve to be more user-friendly while achieving all the other benefits as described in the original post.

(I'm too old to feel any shame)

 

So, there it is. No matter how much we complain and criticise, this upgrade (like so many predecessors) will not go away. I thank you for your honesty. This is a sad day for me, it is the end of my TO career. You have seriously messed up this game and the devs or you mods do not have the backbone to say that this was a failure. You insist that this is a good thing, where in reality of us players this is just a huge pile of cow dung. I repeat myself again: you mods and especially the devs show such arrogant attitude towards players that it is just unbelievable.

 

Demons, begone.

Edited June 2, 2018 by Viking4s
Please refrain from using inappropriate words.