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"Once the programmers have ironed out all the kinks, it's time to have a thorough look at all the parts of matchmaking that players don't like and work their way to improving the system from there."

 

The part of the matchmaking system that sucks is the matchmaking part.  

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"Once the programmers have ironed out all the kinks, it's time to have a thorough look at all the parts of matchmaking that players don't like and work their way to improving the system from there."

 

The part of the matchmaking system that sucks is the matchmaking part.  

You are so correct. And it's not like they weren't told or didn't know. But, they didn't listen a year ago, and so they won't listen now. 

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Oh, is it? If you get an ability to choose maps, everyone will. So, if you just equipped Firebird, you'd be a noob to enter Highways. Everyone knows that there are mags, shafts, isidas and rails. So enter those maps with these stuff. Take Firebird to Kungur (example). But if you get with Firebird in Highway cuz u r forced to, you have to change equipment. Everyone should be able to choose map that fits their playstyle. That would be good enough to encounter higher rankers. Also, you don't want to go to Highland with striker. Then there is Barda or Future.  If you choose your best gameplay map, that doesn't necessarily mean you want to dominate. It could mean that you want to give best of yourself.  Then, there are some highest ranked players that join losing team, on purpose, to balance. It ends up that that team wins!

Highways is a terrible map, yes. But you are missing the point - with MM, you can expect not to have 10 million Shafts camping on Highways, and this sense, it makes it better. In general, people are going to join winning teams, teams with low ranks, etc. What MM should have is maps that have opportunities for all turrets to have a place. Some maps, such as Novel, Industrial Zone, Rio, Forest, Wolfenstein, Red Alert, and Aleksandrovsk do fairly well in this regard. Brest and Desert do not.

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But you are missing the point 

No. You've been missing the point, or simply don't care. I suspect it's the latter, cheerleader.

 

For everyone else, while we had the long server maintenance I created a WoT account. Their MMS is fine. It'll never be popular here because the game dynamics are completely different. So in their attempt to be like everyone else, TO has divested itself of what made it popular and has alienated many of its players. TO has basically said that anyone who doesn't like MMS can buzz off. I suggest that we do. Brand loyalty, years of playing, and money spent means nothing to them. (Now that I think about it, I sound and feel like a loyal wife who's been cheated on. Oh well. Time to walk away... )    

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I used to choose to play on Highways, Brest, and Desert a lot. I like those maps (especially for CP), even with Hunter / Smoky. Sometimes there were just too many Shafts etc. and I had to quit, but that didn't happen all the time. I don't want maps to be removed from MM (every map has fans), but I would accept longer waiting times if I could avoid the small number of maps that I don't like.

 

(ASL needs to be split in to "ASL red" and "ASL blue"; I hardly ever play blue because of flag capture missions)

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The game sucks. I think you're matching Groups versus Random, and there's no Autofinish nor new players are sent to the team with less players. Looks like I'll be quiting battles early instead of struggling for long minutes until the end, like in this 4 vs 8 battle.

 

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Add a way to tell us whom are part of a Group so we know you're not lying to us.

 

The Drones... I'm not buying them. Overdrive is bad and now you add this, I really don't understand.

 

if things start bad in battles I'll just quit.

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For everyone else, while we had the long server maintenance I created a WoT account. They're MMS is fine.

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Boy are you in for a surprise. Here's a video breaking down WoT's MM, concisely and without too much salt:

 

 

 

 

 

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Boy are you in for a surprise. Here's a video breaking down WoT's MM, concisely and without too much salt:

 

As usual, you selectively choose the parts you want to comment on, ignore the rest, and then twist what was said and\or intended to further your own agenda. The short version is that if you think WoT's MMS is bad, then from my previous comment, TO's is far worse because... why? The game dynamics are completely different.  

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if things start bad in battles I'll just quit.

Me too I think (really annoyed about missing out on much cheaper protection). I have the most fun in this game in the lower ranks where huge gaps in competitiveness / equipment levels haven't opened up yet; if I start seeing drones etc. at my lowest rank, then that could be quitting time.

 

(MM just put in a CP battle where my team was already losing badly, sigh)

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As usual, you selectively choose the parts you want to comment on and then twist them to further your own agenda. The short version is that if you think WoT's MMS is bad, then from my previous comment, TO's is far worse because... why? The game dynamics are completely different.  

No one said I used your comment's "logic." What you said really amused me, and that is all I wanted to respond to. The rest I have nothing to say about. You feel TO cheated you, I have no response to that, it's your opinion. I can't argue with an opinion like that. I can argue about MM, but not about things like that.

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As usual, you selectively choose the parts you want to comment on, ignore the rest, and then twist what was said and\or intended to further your own agenda. The short version is that if you think WoT's MMS is bad, then from my previous comment, TO's is far worse because... why? The game dynamics are completely different.  

Could you please take it to PM?

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Gee I wonder, why?

Because, as I have said, it is your personal opinion. Unless you want me to go say something along the lines of "you're stupid and your opinion doesn't matter."

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Because, as I have said, it is your personal opinion. Unless you want me to go say something along the lines of "you're stupid and your opinion doesn't matter."

Funny how you have no regard for "personal opinion" but can't help telling us our opinions are wrong through your subtle use of the English language. As I said before, Joseph Goebbels and Baghdad Bob have nothing on you.

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Mismatch:

 

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How am I supposed to complete missions that way? I know, it's my fault for staying in that battle.

 

I was not in a group by the way.

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That's not nice Coop.

:huh:

 

CooperO

No information Yet about auto finish problems in Pro-battles ! 

 

in DM and TDM battles enemy leaves and we cannot finish the battle 

 

last time i was in DM ( 100 kill battle ) and after kill more than 70 tanks  all leaves and i stay alone ! 

so i exit and lost fund because it's impossible to wait until server restart !  

I'm afraid I have no new information for you about the auto-finish. As soon as we have information about it, I'll notify you.

 

The part of the matchmaking system that sucks is the matchmaking part.  

The part where you can't choose a map or a team, correct?

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:huh:

 

I'm afraid I have no new information for you about the auto-finish. As soon as we have information about it, I'll notify you.

 

The part where you can't choose a map or a team, correct?

 

Here's what I think is wrong on the whole concept of  MM:

 

1. Inability to choose maps. We all have our favourites and dislikes.

 

2. Not possible to look for friends through the friends list and join them.

 

3. Not able to continue the same map after the current battle ends.

 

4. Inability to choose the side of battle. This applies especially to ASL mode.

 

5. Inability to call in reinforcements through friends list during battle

 

6. Lost time first waiting to join a battle and then orienteering yourself to the surroundings.

 

7. Inability to change sides on the current battle to keep it alive.

 

8. Inability to optimize your hull, protection and turret to match the map and playing style before joining a battle

 

9. Time lost for changing EQ after joining the battle to optimize performance

 

Here is what is wrong  by my opinion with the current implementation of MM:

 

1. Longish wait times joining battles

 

2. Being placed to a battle with only a few minutes on the clock

 

3. Being placed in one-sided battle. The current rate is unacceptable.

 

4. Balancing still does not work, too often there is a huge rank-gap.

 

5. After battle ends, you might end up in a different battle-mode.

 

6. Battles are not full from the beginning.

 

7. After players leave, their places are not necessarily filled.

 

8. Way too few maps in the random pool

 

 

 

The bugs will eventually ironed out, but that does not change the opinion about MM. It sucks. It disrupts the whole game play of what TO used to be about. It changes the whole dynamics of the game so utterly and completely that it is just so unbelievable that this was ever introduced. MM was flagged as a total failure during testing a year ago and the public opinion has not changed from that time. There has been only a very few explanations from the devs why this change was introduced and I have to say that those few explanations have been extremely lame to say the least. I could have made a fortune by just selling crutches to these lame excuses by the devs.

 

Yes, there are players who like this change and that is totally ok. Just do not try your opinion up as being the only truth.

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The festive garage angle looks better than the standard one. Can we keep it that way?

 

Funny how you have no regard for "personal opinion" but can't help telling us our opinions are wrong through your subtle use of the English language. As I said before, Joseph Goebbels and Baghdad Bob have nothing on you.

Don't waste time arguing with onion heads and moderators here.

People don't like some updates, they express their disappointment, they leave the game - but mods and onions - they will always say game is getting better and better, and people who are leaving must be .

 

Have a look at onion's profile - 3k exp this week, 1.5k exp last week.

(thats just about 1 or half a battle per day)

At his rank, buyers scare him, so he doesn't play that much, despite claiming that tanki is becoming more "modern" and competitive game these days.

 

Instead, he spends most of the day in forum, sucking up to mods and devs - instead of playing the game.

 

And looking at his garage - as the post I quoted above shows. Who cares whats the wallpaper behind your tank in garage?

Only those people who spend time looking at their garage in the game than in battles.

 

But he will make tremendous effort to search for something nonsense that he can appreciate, so that that he can get his 100k crystals at the end of the year for contribution to the EN forum (scroll down to bottom of main post at http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=367253&page=1)

 

The crystals help him hold up against the buyers for 1 battle a day.

So its all in his self interest. Don't bother replying to him from now on.

 

He's just a wannabe mod and a diplomatic hypocritical  two-faced crystal accumulator.

 

Critics like you and me will never get those 100k crystals at the end of the year - and we don't care.

 

We miss the game we used to play, and we come to the forum to say this to the devs.

 

No offence meant onion, but you need to shut up your mouth a little more, and let old timers give feedback instead of butting your head between them all the time.

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I love the MM System, I`ve always choosen the losing Team´s side - because of challange - and now it is all automated. Turret/map doesn`t matter I use uncle Smoky 99% of the time it performs good up to middle distance and with my viking I can get fast to everywhere.

What I don`t like though is Magnum and the Garage Supplies.

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But he will make tremendous effort to search for something nonsense that he can appreciate, so that that he can get his 100k crystals at the end of the year for contribution to the EN forum (scroll down to bottom of main post at http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=367253&page=1) No offence meant onion, but you need to shut up your mouth a little more, and let old timers give feedback instead of butting your head between them all the time.

​ThirdOnion barely even plays, in fact thirdonion has only been playing recently to see how well MM works, and s/he has stated that other user's opinion is theirs and Onion has their own. 

 

Because, as I have said, it is your personal opinion.

This is besides the topics point here, this is where your suppose to give feedback regarding the MMS, not criticize Moderator's or "Wanna-be-Mods" opinion about MMS, these kind of players know that getting emotional and upset about an update and spreading it around isn't going to help, so they look at their pros and cons, advantages and disadvantages. This thread has turned into a "Oh that user has an icon and powers besides their name, so they support the developer's every decision" that is not true, moderators/wanna be mods, or any the other user that supports MMS of course dislikes something about it, but like I stated above, getting emotional about things like this isn't going to help at all, looking at the advantages and disadvantages of these updates on the other hand help a lot. When people get all that emotional they don't think straight and you can't really talk to them in that kind of stage, fight, flight or freeze is the option they pick. Most of the time online the option would be to fight, this discussion of course isn't going to go anywhere, nor help what's happening with updates in Tanki. it would be wise to simply end it and talk once everyone has found their cool.  -_-

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I clicked on TDM, waited for about a minute and was sent to a battle with only about 2 minutes left in battle. At the end, I clicked on "Continue" which, of course, sent me back to the lobby. Almost immediately, the loading bar started. I thought, "Good, no waiting time." But instead of being sent to TDM, I found myself in CTF. I didn't click on a CTF battle or Quick Battle, not even accidentally, the loading bar was immediate. So, MMS is randomly choosing for me? It's bad enough I can no longer choose my own battles, now MMS is choosing the battle style as well? 

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Dear Developers!

I came playing in Tanki today like yesterday and since long years.... and today i felt i HATE it!!!!!!!  Very hate it!!!!!! 

I want back Tanki from 2 days ago!!!

 

 It is a damn update!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please remove it back!!! Im a positive person,but it..... turn me to sad.... my smiling is to past. 

The tanki lost the magic..... give back for us!!!!!! 

I stay with respect,

by Zigigi

I lost my friends!!!

Congratulation

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Coopero a questions please ,

What if 100% of players disliked and refused the update , what will the devs do ? I mean u said ''mm is here to stay' okay I understand , but if we all refused it (and yes we all refused it already) , what do they do ?

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