Matchmaking is coming May 29th

[Viking4s 10,791]

the LATAM and BR servers are in USA... no they are not in brazil (unless the part where i found out the location was in USA was just a dream)

what you're suggesting could be done to improve player pool for mms but it wouldn't make any sense as it'd just cause everyone to lag like hell.

I have been told that for BR they are in BR. If in USA, why do you want to make the BR lag and not for the USA people which do not play on it?

Everyone?  Elaborate please.

 

This map is even better => http://www.visualcapitalist.com/submarine-cables/

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Barely 25k players today, now 13k, and Tanki is doing dirty tricks to balance battles.

Yet the mods try to make believe that everything is okay with MM and the rest. But what they don't say is how they play... they likely play in coordinated groups. And that's another problem: groups vs random.

That 3 minute reset idea is one of the stupidest I heard in a long time, I hope devs don't implement something like that. Why do you want your waiting progress reset? So stupid I think it's a trolling idea.

 

Edited.

Edited June 29, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[arlo7 130]

This is very cool, I think Tanki heard about all our ideas, suggestions and feedbacks. I'm proud of the device, they're doing a great job to listen to their players, and I'm sure we all appreciate that :wub:

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

I have been told that for BR they are in BR. If in USA, why do you want to make the BR lag and not for the USA people which do not play on it?

Everyone?  Elaborate please.

 

because the majority of people who speak spanish or portugese are in north/south america.

while people in USA are closer to the servers, they speak english and the majority of english speaking players are in europe.

 if they have lower fps the won't exactly cause everyone to lag, but they will cause others to suffer from their lag effects. for example i will see them teleporting and they will cause me to self destruct when they go through me and i farting hate it.

[Maf 32,302]

 But what they don't say is how they play... they likely play in coordinated groups. 

I play alone. Only tried to play in a group once or twice.

[Viking4s 10,791]

because the majority of people who speak spanish or portugese are in north/south america.

while people in USA are closer to the servers, they speak english and the majority of english speaking players are in europe.

 if they have lower fps the won't exactly cause everyone to lag, but they will cause others to suffer from their lag effects. for example i will see them teleporting and they will cause me to self destruct when they go through me and i farting hate it.

NL servers: Australia/NZ +++ (marc), India ++, AMEA +, Africa +/++, RU +/++, Europe 0 (me), NA/CA ++.

BR servers: Portugal ++, Brazil 0, LATAM 0/+, USA ++.

Lag no to worse: 0, +, ++, +++

 

But lag is not only the distance it is also the local traffic and broadband provider - I do have lag sometime due to my Bad provider.

Or because too many people in my house watching Youtube.

 

If you spread different server over the time zone and feed them with local players at peak time then lag through distance would be minimised.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

I play alone. Only tried to play in a group once or twice.

I didn't mean all mods. Sorry.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

NL servers: Australia/NZ +++ (marc), India ++, AMEA +, Africa +/++, RU +/++, Europe 0 (me), NA/CA ++.

BR servers: Portugal ++, Brazil 0, LATAM 0/+, USA ++.

Lag no to worse: 0, +, ++, +++

 

But lag is not only the distance it is also the local traffic and broadband provider - I do have lag sometime due to my Bad provider.

Or because too many people in my house watching Youtube.

 

If you spread different server over the time zone and feed them with local players at peak time then lag through distance would be minimised.

okay but the purpose of them putting a seperate server in USA was to reduce lag for people in north/south america. and even after that it still lags. both for them and for us.

 

so until they can remove the lag for both them and us they shouldn't do this. cause even with seperate servers there's already enough lag i don't want more.

[Viking4s 10,791]

I play alone. Only tried to play in a group once or twice.

 

Barely 20k players today, now 13k, and Tanki is doing dirty tricks to balance battles.

Yet the mods try to make believe that everything is okay with MM and the rest. But what they don't say is how they play... they likely play in coordinated groups. And that's another problem: groups vs random.

That 3 minute reset idea is one of the stupidest I heard in a long time, I hope devs don't implement something like that. Why do you want your waiting progress reset? So stupid I think it's a trolling idea.

Sorry I'm going to be straight forward with you because you need a wake-up call. But that would be the only and last time. You already abused me with so many names, that I take the opportunity to use that trump card.

 

Today 25 k at peak time (link). You keep forgetting to say that the artificially low value you have is when you go online. For the majority of the players it is dark now. Unfortunately it is an international game it's normal to have up and down time and NA aversion to a Russian game can only be blamed (see Kapersky anti-virus current problem).

As always the more you provide bad feedback the more you deter new player which ironically could be potential player able to play with you (considering your low rank) - so basically you shoot in your own foot and cry it hurts.

 

Coordinated group are deadly, yes. But they are less powerful than what is going on in Pro-battle with the friend list. Only 3 players while pro-battle could be a full team. No raid possible either in MM - I understand that you don't care at your level as you are less exposed - but others do care.

I play two days with group. I played once with Maf and Toby and we got hammered twice in 3 games :D - boohoo

Problem with group is only in your head, if you play thinking that you will loose then it will happen - it's pure mind blinder you wear. Think positive and how you can beat the enemy team. Find friends and make a group (and call in) it is more fun than solo.

 

Please don't be rude with my idea and in general on the forum; your attitude has been very hostile from the start and best examples are during the WAR - it seems like you have issue with losing.

Re-read the idea, because you are missing the whole point. Again your are drawing the worse picture based on emotion and not objectivity (you did the same during the WAR and then gave up the topic you were leading).

 

So elaborate your concerns and gather facts to support them. No idea is bad and no question is stupid.

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

No, it takes you to the mode you selected. Seems like your desperate fury to denigrate MM has reduced you to lying and to accusing solid forum ciizens like Viking of running sockpuppets.  You're the new Make Railguns Like The Used to Be (or whatever his name was) the poster you see the name you don't read the post because you arleady know its a preztel logic mess.

Correct...Sometimes clicking "Continue" does put you in a battle of the same mode you were just in...but sometimes it doesn't and dumps you into the Quick Battle queue.   I'm surprised you have never had this happen to you.  It happened to me so many times that now I just use "Exit" and then click the mode I wish to play.

 

I never accused Vikings4 of being a sockpuppet...or you either.  I did actually think you two might be the same person in the real world based on the your writing styles, argumentative natures, unique perspectives, the dates you both joined the forum, and maybe a few more shreds of evidence, but I concluded that you two are separate people based on your profiles/ratings.  You both use different tank rigs and the same person would probably have very similar tank rigs and stats.  So, let me be clear....I do not think you and Vikings4 are the same person.  I believe you are two distinct and separate unique posters...OK?

 

You seem so distraught...do you need a hug?

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

If there are 15 players waiting for the 16th player to start a battle and some reach the 3 minute reset mark and get reset, those 15 won't be 15 anymore because some will start the process again while others have to keep waiting.

 

It makes no sense. Unbelievable.

Edited June 28, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[Tani_S 736]

 

 

The group system is a joke.  You cannot add any friends to a group to actually join a battle. Why you might ask?  Because they are IN A BATTLE.  That is why you have friends.  To find them in a battle already when you log on and join them.  Or invite them once they log on.  Nobody is going to log on at the same time as there friends and join a group before entering a battle.  Or log on and wait for friends to log on.  Sometimes you only join 1 battle with that friend other times you might get 3 or 4.  How many times is has it been easy to battle with friends for me since MMS you might ask?  If they aren't in a pro battle, it has been next to none.  

 

Before the death of Tanki with MMS I could join a loosing team to help out on a map that I chose to.  If the battle was low enough I could invite friends of the proper rank to help out.  With a 15 min battle and the right players invited it was possible to turn it around for a win.  Now there isn't even enough time to change your equipment.

 

 

In my opinion some aspects of the groups need to be improved. However, keep in mind that ideally and independently from the used system there should be no or only a small fluctuation of leaving and incoming players in the battles.

 

 

 

No it is not a binary choice situation in which a player either used Drones or is not ("locked out"). It is a matter of useage frequency, an unbroken spectrum running form Never (aka "locked out") all the way to Always (aka the $9 US per 12 hours played player). Between the two are any number of choices as to how often to activate one's Drones.

 

Using a Drone does not man a 10 Battery burn for one game. Non-Buyers might learn how to pick their moments. Pop in a Drone for the 4 or 5 minutes needed when they can earn their keep, so to speak. Right not there seem to be no delay timers to (un)equipping Drones.

 

With 20-25 / week coming from Missions and a similar number from mission Containers, that is enough for 8-12 "Drone Moments" / week.  If non-buyers amass Batteries until their Drones are MU'ed te recommended 6-10 steps then then it is easy enough to imagine 4-5 "Drone Moments" would be possible each day of play. This is not the same thing as continuous play but it seems worthy enough of pursuit.

 

Learning what the optimum frequency that works be personally is basically the puzzle we have to unravel as gamers. That's why I play games: to see how to make them work best. The Drones addition is interesting in that it's impact is not so easily seen.

 

I agree that so far the 300 Cry Garage price for Batteries makes it hard to justify it from a cost comparison basis. But I have not looked at the numbers deeply.  From a cursory look though there might be Drones that can produce more than 300 Cry / minute in terms of value. That is a full or near full MU though and under optimum conditions. It may be that if Batteries are ever available on sale they might justify the Garage prive ... some day.

 

 

Well, strictly speaking there is not a binary choice regarding locked out equipment, but there is a very big gap between a "normal" use and the way how non-buyers are able to use it.

Waiting for a 'drone moment' to equip and unequip them is hugely inconvenient. To reflect the conditions in the game it would make more sense to swap the mechanics: activate regular drugs automatically (maybe set a personal queue choice) and activate drones manually. I doubt that you can predict the need for a drone moment properly and that this would be a profitable way on the long-term view. Also those that only use it sporadically probably won't spent about a million to MU these things.

When we look on it for a normal/automatic use, I estimate that, even if there were 50 % sales on batteries, you could only make up for the cost of 1500 crys per battle when you got doubled rewards by premium accounts.

Drones are a pure p2w element, which you can also see at the point that they have got no modification levels. At their unlock rank, e.g. at WO1 you can let a Mechanic drone leverage your RK to give +500 HP to you and your teammates within an area which is 2.5 times as wide as the Overdrive area.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Correct...Sometimes clicking "Continue" does put you in a battle of the same mode you were just in...but sometimes it doesn't and dumps you into the Quick Battle queue.   I'm surprised you have never had this happen to you.  It happened to me so many times that now I just use "Exit" and then click the mode I wish to play.

 

I never accused Vikings4 of being a sockpuppet...or you either.  I did actually think you two might be the same person in the real world based on the your writing styles, argumentative natures, unique perspectives, the dates you both joined the forum, and maybe a few more shreds of evidence, but I concluded that you two are separate people based on your profiles/ratings.  You both use different tank rigs and the same person would probably have very similar tank rigs and stats.  So, let me be clear....I do not think you and Vikings4 are the same person.  I believe you are two distinct and separate unique posters...OK?

 

You seem so distraught...do you need a hug?

I've never had that happen to me. OTOH I play Quick Battles often.

 

If it happens that is just the sort of erratic bug one expewcts in most any Software v1.0. It is something that can be fixed to work as intended.

 

One person using two online identities on the same forum is the defintion of sockpuppet. That is what you accused in Vik and myself.

Vik is probably the most honest person on this forum. That means to himself and to others. So going after him is beyond the pale.

 

In my opinion some aspects of the groups need to be improved. However, keep in mind that ideally and independently from the used system there should be no or only a small fluctuation of leaving and incoming players in the battles.

 

Well, strictly speaking there is not a binary choice regarding locked out equipment, but there is a very big gap between a "normal" use and the way how non-buyers are able to use it.

Waiting for a 'drone moment' to equip and unequip them is hugely inconvenient. To reflect the conditions in the game it would make more sense to swap the mechanics: activate regular drugs automatically (maybe set a personal queue choice) and activate drones manually. I doubt that you can predict the need for a drone moment properly and that this would be a profitable way on the long-term view. Also those that only use it sporadically probably won't spent about a million to MU these things.

When we look on it for a normal/automatic use, I estimate that, even if there were 50 % sales on batteries, you could only make up for the cost of 1500 crys per battle when you got doubled rewards by premium accounts.

Drones are a pure p2w element, which you can also see at the point that they have got no modification levels. At their unlock rank, e.g. at WO1 you can let a Mechanic drone leverage your RK to give +500 HP to you and your teammates within an area which is 2.5 times as wide as the Overdrive area.

 

Well we are saying mostly the same things. Your characterization may turn out ot be true but we do not know that yet.

 

I agree going to the garage to toggle the drone is inconvieneint. OTOH that seems the sort of thing that can be oved to a hotkey eventually. I also agree there might be a "big gap" between lavish buyers and daily missioners. That is if the big gap is deifned by simple hours of battery nurn.  OTOH if the gap is defined by overall benefite derived from drones the gap might turn out to be small.

 

I have run my drone twice, OK? No expert here. But only once did it seem to make anything different. And then it was a matter of saving me maybe 5 seconds. This was no matter of deciding the course of the battle thing not by miles and miles.

 

I look at the drones and I cnot see them having a very big impact during most of the time they fly around.  If a full-time Droner gets little or no ROI on 75% of his Battery burn, then the Free player in theory can get the nearly the same ROI by choosing the moments to burn his smaller Battery stash.

 

This will of course take considerable understanding of the system and skill in applying good decisions. For some reason I do not see that as a Bad Ting. I do agree though the average TO player is sort of like a deer in the headlights when it comes to things more complicated than On/Off switches for example. So I expect a lot statements Drones are, quote, worthless, end quote.

 

For two years I have said I do not oppose Power ups in these sort of games. But the issue with TO power ups were that the DA/DD thing is overly powerful and overly simple. In a way Drones add a new way to extract more benefit from Supplies. The new system more complicated and nuanced than the old Supplies system by itself. 

 

Mostly I see drones having their n=biggest role in organized team combat like Clan Wars.  Again, I cannot see oiw adding this level is a bad thing.

 

Free players will still be able to play and win games in the basic MM system I am confident of that. If players have to buy some batteries to play in the upper aplications of the game like Clan Wars I see that as entirely fair. TO is still cheaper than the old Pac Man even if you DO buy Batteries. lol

Edited June 28, 2018 by LittleWillie

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

 

One person using two online identities on the same forum is the defintion of sockpuppet. That is what you accused in Vik and myself.

Vik is probably the most honest person on this forum. That means to himself and to others. So going after him is beyond the pale.

What's wrong with you?  Do you not read?  This will be the third post in which I have said you are two distinct and different people.  I never said you two were the same...ever...never...ever.  Why is your reading comprehension so very low...do you actually read posts before replies?  I said (you can go back and look) that I thought you might be the same person but the evidence at my disposal convinces me YOU ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON as Vikings4. 

 

Gosh, it is no wonder you think MM is an improvement to Tanki.  I will still take your posts seriously, but you are quickly moving into the territory of "troll".

Edited June 29, 2018 by ByeByeBye

[BAMBIBX 178]

15 MORE Game-Ending errors in one evening.

 

That brings the total to 69 Game-Ending Errors in less than 1 week.

 

Tanki, are you listening?  These bugs never happened before MatchMaker.  But now they're happening more often than 1x per GAME!

 

KILL MATCHMAKER NOW!

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Sorry I'm going to be straight forward with you because you need a wake-up call. But that would be the only and last time. You already abused me with so many names, that I take the opportunity to use that trump card.

 

Today 25 k at peak time (link). You keep forgetting to say that the artificially low value you have is when you go online. For the majority of the players it is dark now. Unfortunately it is an international game it's normal to have up and down time and NA aversion to a Russian game can only be blamed (see Kapersky anti-virus current problem).

 

Please don't be rude with my idea and in general on the forum; your attitude has been very hostile from the start and best examples are during the WAR - it seems like you have issue with losing.

Re-read the idea, because you are missing the whole point. Again your are drawing the worse picture based on emotion and not objectivity (you did the same during the WAR and then gave up the topic you were leading).

 

So elaborate your concerns and gather facts to support them. No idea is bad and no question is stupid.

If you say the peak was 25k, then ok.

 

I didn't called you names, that's a baseless accusation. The idea is bad, what else can I say.

 

Look at yourself, now you can read my emotions too?

 

Kaspersky and WAR too? All I can say is that I don't think most kids and teens care much about Tanki being a Russian game, they didn't care before did they? Theories.

 

And please don't tell me what to do.

Edited June 29, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[Toby 2,938]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posts moved from the 'Ideas for the Interface' thread.

[RIDDLER_8 5,553]

I have found out that its very hard to complete weekend giveaways on matchmaking battles. I personally think that weekend giveaways must be optimized to suit matchmaking battles, or allow the ability to complete weekend giveaways in pro battles as well.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

What's wrong with you? Do you not read? This will be the third post in which I have said you are two distinct and different people. I never said you two were the same...ever...never...ever. Why is your reading comprehension so very low...do you actually read posts before replies? I said (you can go back and look) that I thought you might be the same person but the evidence at my disposal convinces me YOU ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON as Vikings4.

 

Gosh, it is no wonder you think MM is an improvement to Tanki. I will still take your posts seriously, but you are quickly moving into the territory of "troll".

S/he doesn't read carefully, s/he just reacts to anything that seems critical or against her/his interests. S/he probably thinks we are doing the same thing s/he does. S/he is projecting.

 

I hope they remove pick up supply missions, to stop the mission mults and mission campers.

Edited June 29, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Barely 25k players today, now 13k, and Tanki is doing dirty tricks to balance battles.

 

Yet the mods try to make believe that everything is okay with MM and the rest. But what they don't say is how they play... they likely play in coordinated groups. And that's another problem: groups vs random.

 

That 3 minute reset idea is one of the stupidest I heard in a long time, I hope devs don't implement something like that. Why do you want your waiting progress reset? So stupid I think it's a trolling idea.

 

Edited.

Annnnnd.... in today's Vlog 176 the "stupidest idea in a long time" is proven to be instead 100% accurate.  

 

#Issmofailagain,again

 

What's wrong with you?  Do you not read?  This will be the third post in which I have said you are two distinct and different people.  I never said you two were the same...ever...never...ever.  Why is your reading comprehension so very low...do you actually read posts before replies?  I said (you can go back and look) that I thought you might be the same person but the evidence at my disposal convinces me YOU ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON as Vikings4. 

 

Gosh, it is no wonder you think MM is an improvement to Tanki.  I will still take your posts seriously, but you are quickly moving into the territory of "troll".

You broached the subject yet claim you didn't, troll this thread constantly about MM...

 

S/he doesn't read carefully, s/he just reacts to anything that seems critical or against her/his interests. S/he probably thinks we are doing the same thing s/he does. S/he is projecting.

 

I hope they remove pick up supply missions, to stop the mission mults and mission campers.

...but it is I who is the one projecting.

 

LOL & Cheerio. The rest of us are moving on...

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Annnnnd.... in today's Vlog 176 the "stupidest idea in a long time" is proven to be instead 100% accurate.

 

#Issmofailagain,again

It's a temporary solution, TEMPORARY, to the glitch, GLITCH, or bug, BUG.

 

The temporary solution and the "idea" will become useless when they fix the glitch or bug.

 

Do you understsnd now? Or you need more explanations?

[Viking4s 10,791]

Annnnnd.... in today's Vlog 176 the "worst idea in a long time" is proven to be instead 100% accurate.  

Be nice with the losing team. No need to gloat or boast. Don't go to his level please, be "Bon Prince". 

The insane timings had a cause, and it happened time to time just like lottery, therefore if the ticket is not winning buy a new one: simple idea.

It's a good thing they found the cause. One gone, next... 

[Psychotic 166]

I love how its been almost 6 months before last matchmaking and this final matchmaking and they said they fixed the bugs from the matchmaking that went live in august 2017 but they still need to release fixes for it. Just lovely i seriously wonder if the devs even care about their own updates. For example this topic is a perfect example this thread has been filled with complaints for almost a month and still not removed love how they say 'devs do things in favour of tankers' so funny how they are contradicting that ;D cant wait to see more trash updates!

[REDOUANE78190 836]

I actually thought you might be LittleWillie, but your profiles/ratings don't match up. 

 

Cheers

Ahahahahahaha no no no no no you kiding?! Ahahahaha

Edited June 29, 2018 by REDOUANE78190

[Viking4s 10,791]

Ahahahahahaha no no no no no you kiding?! Ahahahaha

No, he is really serious. Our writing style is very similar he says. Like 2 twins brothers in the Twins movie.