Matchmaking is coming May 29th

[NO-ONE-SEE-NE 22]

ThirdOnion is one of the smartest most savvy forum posters whereas you two jokers have never been seen before you came here to gripe about MM.Which is fine, grip away. But neither of you two have made postings that make y'all look smart or savvy. Not even close to earning the status to throw shade at 3O. So there's that.

 

There is also this profile. How does an account with ~250 hours played have ~2.5 MILLION exp earned? That is ~10,000 exp every hour.

 

Furthermore if you look at the exp earned under the various turret that adds up toe ~360k exp not 2.5 million.  So what is up with this profile?

 

 

Are you sure you did not join that 1st CP game by clicking Quick Battle?

 

 

Viking4s is one of the smartest if not the smartest person posting here.

 

IMO, the pro battles suck. The non-Pro battles are what is fun. Working towards missions is what is fun. MM has been an improvement for me because I can log on and get into a battle right away.. I have a better chance of finding a fun game and quicker too.

 

The toughest fights and best players are found in the NON-Pro section.  The Pro section is full of players afraid to play anything but Poly CP, again. Or Noise, again. Or Sandbox, again.  Or Island, again. Simple games over and over and over. No wonder Pro section players cannot cope with the tougher competition in the basic section.  

 

MM has kicked out the crutches many players used and forced them to face teh fact they are not as "pro" as they thought.  A player who always camps with Shaft all day long on Highways,.. that is all that player ever learna to do.

 

MM wil; make you a better tanker. But no pain no gain.

 

 

Hello third onion ,

 

 

Look , we know u liked the update and u think its improvement to the game , but why tanki lose like 20k from players ? Does this mean an improvement for u ? Huh ?! No its not imprvoments ,

 

 

And for missions u mentioned up , no the missions become so hard to finish and sometimes impossible ,

 

 

Tanki has been become not a fun game anyways , and as I've suggested Many yes either removing MMS or fix it,

 

2 years from working and now its fully of glitches ? Even when they have done a test on the main game servers to test how it perform ,

 

MMS is here to stay and I would to say to the Ayers who think the devs will remove MMS I would suggest u either to leave the he or rage on the devs ,

 

 

#nives_where_are_u_sleeping_man_we_need_you

[Pathfinder 1,690]

Guys forget arguing on here. What is the point? As ThirdOnion said, this update won't be revoked, regardless of what's expressed here - clear from Tanki's track record but player feedback means little in this game. In that case, are you arguing to prove a point, or what? This is why I don't post nearly as passionately on here anymore - it makes little difference, so what's the point?

 

On a separate note:

 

Clearly this thread has devolved into a platform for opinions to be expressed, into one where it is about debating whether MM will be good for the game. There is no answer - different players will like it others won't. Don't be that one arrogant person who is convinced your point of view is objectively correct. You don't belong on here. 

 

Eloquence or "smartness" means little on here. What matters is respect - respecting other's opinions. Not necessarily agreeing but respecting and empathising. Players have a right to complain; equally, players have a right to say on here they think the update is great - if you don't agree with it, leave it!

Edited June 3, 2018 by Pathfinder

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

When players leave the matchmaking system, they don't get replaced. Why?

[madalien 30]

Still not enjoying playing MM. I have 10 days "free premium" from a container. Don't know I can be bothered to play for "fun" after doing six missions for two tanks - took about 2 hours of tedium (and I wasn't even playing TDM, which is tedious in itself).

 

Still losing around 10% playing time (1min 6s) waiting to get into games.

 

Twice had it over last few days when you finish a battle and cannot "continue" or select another mode - just ignored by the system. Had to exit game and restart.

 

#BringBackTheFun

[BEIBEIHE 59]

WHAT GOT BETTER BY INTRODUCING MATCHMAKING AND WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH BEFORE MATCHMAKING??????

HOW DOES MATCHMAKING KEEP GAME ALIVE WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE?

ANSWER PLEASE.

FUND DISTRIBUTION COULD BE MADE WITHOUT MMS!

 

GUYS, GIRLS, THINGS, EVERYONE, WE DON'T LIKE THIS MATCHMAKING SYSTEM. I KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU LIKE THIS GAME THOUGH IT IS DEAD. BUT LET'S TRY NOT TO PLAY SEVERAL DAYS. THERE ARE AT LEAST 5K OF US THAT DON'T LIKE MMS. OR MORE. LET'S STOP PLAYING AND SEE WHAT DEVS WILL DO.

 

I will most probably get banned but who cares.

Players leaving doesn't do anything to Tanki. There are still some brainless keep using real money to buy. The best way we do is to stop buying ! I don't against players keep playing because that uses the resources but just stop using your or your parents hard earned money on this game. If you really really what to buy because of some kind of addiction or what ever reason, try to buy less. Oh, You want to spend $100? think first then may be just use 50 or 60. Cut it down, spend your money on something that your will really own and if somebody takes it from you it will be a crime. Not like here what you own can be freely taken away "legally" anytime. Stop or at least cut down paying this game real money.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Suggestions for improvement.

 

1-Replace the Box Collector missions with missions more directly tied to battle goals.

 

2-Add more maps. The current pool is too few, and I’m getting a bit bored.

[BlackEliteEnemy2 250]

Players leaving doesn't do anything to Tanki. There are still some brainless keep using real money to buy. The best way we do is to stop buying ! I don't against players keep playing because that uses the resources but just stop using your or your parents hard earned money on this game. If you really really what to buy because of some kind of addiction or what ever reason, try to buy less. Oh, You want to spend $100? think first then may be just use 50 or 60. Cut it down, spend your money on something that your will really own and if somebody takes it from you it will be a crime. Not like here what you own can be freely taken away "legally" anytime. Stop or at least cut down paying this game real money.

Buyers wont stop buying. If non buyers leave, buyers wont be like Godmode in battles. So they will leave too. No more income. Chain reaction. Devs would wake up. Maybe

 

If devs think only 'bout themselves (keep buyers in game), that is selfish

[LittleWillie 3,199]

off course CP, not the quick battle..

It was just a thought. I will keep an eye open to see if I get this bug too. I've not seen it.

 

Hello third onion ,

 

 

Look , we know u liked the update and u think its improvement to the game , but why tanki lose like 20k from players ? Does this mean an improvement for u ? Huh ?! No its not imprvoments ,

 

 

And for missions u mentioned up , no the missions become so hard to finish and sometimes impossible ,

 

 

Tanki has been become not a fun game anyways , and as I've suggested Many yes either removing MMS or fix it,

 

2 years from working and now its fully of glitches ? Even when they have done a test on the main game servers to test how it perform ,

 

MMS is here to stay and I would to say to the Ayers who think the devs will remove MMS I would suggest u either to leave the he or rage on the devs ,

 

 

#nives_where_are_u_sleeping_man_we_need_you

Oh I see you tried to be clever. No I am not a sockpuppet of 3O. Of you were a forum regular you'd know that.

 

It is an improvement for my needs. It is an improvement from my opinion. I do not need 50k opponents online. I just need to find a game when I play.  And MM is giving me that.  It is real simple.

 

I have had no problems finishing missions under MM compared to before. 

 

You will not find many posts from me lauding TO's programming skills.  Nevertheless MM is a better system for me than the old system.  YMMV. 

[XxSneakyxX 30]

This game is getting more stupid than any other game. It takes every 2 minutes to get into a game, way above the average waiting time. Where did the money you Tanki spent them from? Not seeing any improvement at all, as the game is getting worse after each update. Don't think I will spend even a penny on your stupid birthday, cause i don't care of your birthday. Looking forward to see Tanki goes down, although it's dying already!

 

I can see Tanki is now making another stupid update of some drones and batteries? Now is matchmaking which ruined the whole game, creating all the lags and not allowing players to play their own maps. Next will be the drones and batteries, now that's what a ridiculous game looks like!

 

Edited June 3, 2018 by CooperO
Kindly refrain from using profanity.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

There's a few problems with this MM system. I've entered a few games now where it is already 5-0 in CTF mode and one team is getting spawn killed. I imediately quit those games. Also organised clans are still able to join on one side because of the group function so there isn't really any improvement in balance at all.

[imemai 0]

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Matchmaking is a stupid update because we cannot select teams or maps

Sometime players of 6 or 7 level joi players of 20 level

Battlefunds are good.

 

Edited June 3, 2018 by Viking4s
Please don't quote the whole first post

[Bydo 20,125]

same issues today ..

 

over powered ranks in battles , not fair battles .. even with drones its going to cost us more to play this game

[Pedro48_a7x 145]

Took me 3 battles to complete a lame "collect 7 double armor boxes" mission. This awesome MMS kept sending me in the middle of battles, with 5 minutes left, most of the time I am the lowest rank, and I just see teammates fighting for boxes.

 

Fun : 0%

 

Anger : 50%

 

Wait time : 50%

 

GG developers ;)

[BEIBEIHE 59]

Took me 3 battles to complete a lame "collect 7 double armor boxes" mission. This awesome MMS kept sending me in the middle of battles, with 5 minutes left, most of the time I am the lowest rank, and I just see teammates fighting for boxes.

 

Fun : 0%

 

Anger : 50%

 

Wait time : 50%

 

GG developers ;)

Don't say it out loud. They will remove the boxes missions. Keep what you find is good and easy in secret, don't tell in public.

Edited June 3, 2018 by BEIBEIHE

[BEIBEIHE 59]

Buyers wont stop buying. If non buyers leave, buyers wont be like Godmode in battles. So they will leave too. No more income. Chain reaction. Devs would wake up. Maybe

 

If devs think only 'bout themselves (keep buyers in game), that is selfish

That's the point. Buyers feel they are invincible because there are non buyers. But big buyers feel they are invincible because there are also small buyers. That's why they put the drones there. Big buyers can be even bigger to beat small and non buyers. Tanki is abandoning non buyers, as they consider non buyers do no contribution but wasting their resources, and turning small buyers into prays. They also try to push some small buyers to be big buyers. That's all behind the scene. What we should do is to stop paying but keep playing; do no contribution but use resources.

[FILIPSVK123 2]

Why u deleted my post? This was big true. This matchmaking is very bad, u ruining this game only for money!!! Nope.

[Hancho 3,902]

Many people leave the battles after few minutes of playing the map they don't want and the teams become uneven. 

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

The group function is making battles very one sided.  A clan comes in and totally dominates...they drug to max and are organized against a bunch of random players of all rank brackets.  

 

MM gave lip service to balancing battles then devs put in something patently unbalancing like "group" ...how can they be sooooo brainless?

[Viking4s 10,791]

What huge differences between ranks do you mean?  Going up a rank is worth about 2500 pts.  A top-performer's rating in a given rank is about the same as an average rating for one rank above. This is my rough take based on minimal occasional looks at rating numbers.  Anyway I do not see anything about the rating number that would preclude use in the MM calculations. If anything the opposite is true.

Yes 2500pts seem not much compared the equivalent in XP per ranks.

 

WO4 XP range 125-156k 

gladiator.2018 126 020 XP - Eff 38 095

3BEPb_1 147 315  XP - Eff  40 242

Merovingian 153 286 XP - Eff 39 441 

 

Third Lieutenant range 192-233k 

Tokamak 194 445 XP - Eff 45 468

qajik500  200 892 XP - Eff  42 864.

1223334449_mega 202 613 XP - Eff 45 064

Ok, the efficiency is slightly better as an estimation of strength than XP. However I took 2 ranks with 2 level of difference but it doesn't show overlap among the 2 groups. You might have an overlap within 2 successive ranks, but the MM at the moment is wider than 2 ranks. 

You need something better than efficiency.

   

 

[BlackEliteEnemy2 250]

That's the point. Buyers feel they are invincible because there are non buyers. But big buyers feel they are invincible because there are also small buyers. That's why they put the drones there. Big buyers can be even bigger to beat small and non buyers. Tanki is abandoning non buyers, as they consider non buyers do no contribution but wasting their resources, and turning small buyers into prays. They also try to push some small buyers to be big buyers. That's all behind the scene. What we should do is to stop paying but keep playing; do no contribution but use resources.

Non buyers will NEVER buy anything. Now we have those who want some special paint. If developers give special paint via Crazy weekend, buyers will see that paint is being worthless. So, they won't buy. How to stop that? Simply, get rid of non buyers. That's why i said we, non buyers should stop playing game for some time because MM will take a lot more time and buyers will leave too. But it's pointless because only 20-30 players will see my post. Batteries, 300 crystals for 7 secs of DA, DD, SB. 300 crystals for faster RK. 300 crystals for immediately getting OD (if you are lucky enough to kill someone at <5 secs before supplies end). Now, when I see Tanki will remain MM in game, I will leave. But I will wait, and talk to Nives first. Why doesn't he come? Roll out such an update, and just go away? I am pretty sure he will get a lot of questions when he comes back, though he is here, cuz he made a post about Drones. He is just not brave enough to come here and face everyone.

 

#Nives_come_back

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Yes 2500pts seem not much compared the equivalent in XP per ranks.

 

WO4 XP range 125-156k 

gladiator.2018 126 020 XP - Eff 38 095

3BEPb_1 147 315  XP - Eff  40 242

Merovingian 153 286 XP - Eff 39 441 

 

Third Lieutenant range 192-233k 

Tokamak 194 445 XP - Eff 45 468

qajik500  200 892 XP - Eff  42 864.

1223334449_mega 202 613 XP - Eff 45 064

Ok, the efficiency is slightly better as an estimation of strength than XP. However I took 2 ranks with 2 level of difference but it doesn't show overlap among the 2 groups. You might have an overlap within 2 successive ranks, but the MM at the moment is wider than 2 ranks. 

You need something better than efficiency. 

Well... there is never an overlap in ranks right?  A 1LT is always 1 rank ahead of a 2LT.  So the amount of overlap in the efficenvy ratings does not seem a critical consideration. I't just seem to me TO could build their "seeding" software to use any sort of metric they want. I just assumed the efficincy rating would be used because ... WTH else did they make it to do?

[Dies-Irae 49]

Viking4s, please correct me if I'm wrong on this: the matchmaking system was introduced because of the mobile version of this game. Mobile players most likely expect a quick action battles with short wait times etc. Like an arcade mode of TO. Nothing wrong with that. Except why all of us need to suffer because you introduce another way of playing?

 

While bowing to one direction, you unintentionally, or worse yet, intentionally show your chockolate starfish to the other direction, this time to computer players. There have been mentioned so many things that are just plain wrong or downright ty in MM that I lost count. Like I said before, the technical side of MM will be made better over time,  but it does not take away the fact that MM is just so wrong.

 

You have shown before that you do not give a  towards our opinion, so why start now? You say that this upgrade is good for the game and for  sake it will be so no matter how many of us tell you the exact opposite. You act as dictators who's power over us is like god-given. We mean nothing to you, expect when we shovel money to you.

 

(Kind of nice to swear on the posts, this way the mods have to read the posts! And no, I will not stop swearing even if you every time ask me very politely to do so. I know there are minors here, but believe me, they know so much harsher language that what I am using here that they could give us lessons in swearing.)

Edited June 3, 2018 by Viking4s
Kindly refrain to use profanities.

[BlackEliteEnemy2 250]

 

Well... there is never an overlap in ranks right? A 1LT is always 1 rank ahead of a 2LT. So the amount of overlap in the efficenvy ratings does not seem a critical consideration. I't just seem to me TO could build their "seeding" software to use any sort of metric they want. I just assumed the efficincy rating would be used because ... WTH else did they make it to do?

K/D ratio? Equipment? Score in battles?

 

[...]

Very well said, but noone will read what you say, just ban u cuz inapropriate language (though they shouldn't bcs you don't get banned in chat for so), and will delete those stars from posts.

 

But I support you!

I don't know why is MM released, noone wants to answer me :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:, but if it is bcs of Mobile version, then keep it only for mobile! I know you can do that but YOU DO NOT WANT TO! Rather lose players /force them to play what they dont want than to keep it ok, like before.

Mobile version was released so players could be able to play Tanki Online everywhere. I am just wondering around who will play tanki online on mobile if you lose those players who play from home on PC and have time to do. If not playing from home in peace, why to play outside when you need to pay attention to world around you?? Answer me please

[Viking4s 10,791]

Well... there is never an overlap in ranks right?  A 1LT is always 1 rank ahead of a 2LT.  So the amount of overlap in the efficenvy ratings does not seem a critical consideration. I't just seem to me TO could build their "seeding" software to use any sort of metric they want. I just assumed the efficincy rating would be used because ... WTH else did they make it to do?

For nothing - or maybe the top 100. There is an overlap of skills and equipment among ranks, this would be more interesting. This should be able to do a better matching.

[Mustard 531]

[...]

First of all, I think Matchmaking was introduced first before the mobile version. (correct me if I'm wrong on this), the main goals of the Matchmaking system are stated in the OP.

And please don't use profane language, you won't get away with it as you are clearly violating the game rules. Continue and a ban may be issued.

Edited June 3, 2018 by Mustard