How can Tanki be successful?

[MysticSid 14]

Nerf the buyers?

Well, let's take a look at that....

 

Nerf the buyer and the advantage gap closes between the buyer and non-buyer.

If the advantage for the buyer is negligible, then there is no need for anyone to buy.

If no one is buying, then TO personnel doesn't get paid.

If people don't get paid, why should they work for free?

 

Would you work for free?

Well i'm not saying that remove the gap.

What i have experienced it myself and it became a hot topic like a month ago on YT.

I got m0 at First Seargent rank. In my battle i generally Saw buyers with a full-time premium, Supplies, M2s (bought kits and full MU them) easily with just one click. I did hardwork Fighting against these Hard buyers and managed to buy my Isida m1 at W.O.1 well till i got used to it and got my hornet to m1, The buyers got m3. I lost Hope and quit Tanki. I started Tanki again few Months ago, and came to know these buyers till then had got 100s of Containers, Gold Boxes and Joined and Made Clans.

Well nerfing them a little bit is Essential

[Zehmiel 223]

Tanki is far from dying

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Bring back Old Sales and Crazy celebrations. Well, Tanki Removed big sales and events in last few months. We havn't seen much Sales and like X5 or X10 Battle Funds and Increased Golds in 2018 [and even something like black friday]. Bring them back.

There were so many sales in March and April, Crazy Weekends, the WAR event, in a week or so Tanki's birthday will be here. If you think there haven't been many events / celebrations you haven't been very attentive to game news.

 

Nerf Thunder, Smoky, Viking and Dictator. (Dictator cuz it takes all golds)

Dictator can't take golds all the time anymore because they drop only after 10 seconds. Second, Dictator is arguably the worst medium hull currently. Nerfing it more will make it completely useless. Thunder suffers from protections in higher ranks, it's not OP at all. Smoky is balanced.

[FTW 240]

imo nothing is going to save it up UNLESS they advertise (as they used to at the beginning of their project) and revive what the majority of players want and by this players will be actually glad to invite their friends to play etc.. but that would approximately take 4-5 years.

Edited May 31, 2018 by FTW

[badmonkey69 12]

Most are right that it is a business and should be run like one.  What they miss is like any business they must develop their product to make people want to buy it.  

 

I wont spend a dime on this game as they have no respect for money their customer spend on it.  Like nerfing equipment, fixing bugs, rewarding loyal players, keeping the game focused on skill, or simply making it enjoyable/addicting to play.   The game has become more and more frustrating to play IMO as skill really isn't important anymore.  When something as stupid as lag hacking actually benefits players you got issues with you're game.  You don't see Fortnite changing their game to force players to spend more $$$, they know that making changes to improve the game itself will bring in new revenue.

 

Coming up with stupid junk like matchmaking that has no added benefit to the game itself is a sign of poor management.  Everyone can see through the update that its simply frustrates the FTP players as they sit and wait to join battles.  FTP players have been forced to rely on containers to be competitive which is fine but then making those containers boring to get is just stupid.  The developers knew the community hated it as they tried it before. 

 

RIP tanki

[badmonkey69 12]

i do not understand why u guys hates Matchmaking?? Mistakes are done by everyone and good thing is that they are trying to improve it!

They already tried it once before and everyone hated it.  Slowing game play down for stupid reasons like this is just poor management. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

 

Well, its a considerable post.

Tanki can be successful:-

 

 

• Tanki Needs to Nerf Buyers. They Overpowered buyers massively in late 2014 and early 2015 after which the game lost 70% of its interest.
• They need to remove matchmaking. This update Sucks bad. i don't need to explain. Spread The Word- #RemoveMatchmaking
• Better System in Events. Right now the Events are a resting place to auto-clickers who are available at that time.
• Bring back Old Sales and Crazy celebrations. Well, Tanki Removed big sales and events in last few months. We havn't seen much Sales and like X5 or X10 Battle Funds and Increased Golds in 2018 [and even something like black friday]. Bring them back.
• Bring back old Maps. We need old Madness Map Back! Also we need back the small and big maps like Island, Duel, Sandbox, Cross, Madness, Dusseldorf, Lost Temple,etc. in our Battle list!
• Well they should Advertise more and stop bringing Huge Updates anymore. They make the game a bit Confusing for newbies.
• Protect new players from Second, third, fourth Accounts of Experienced, Huge druggers and buyers.
• Nerf Thunder, Smoky, Viking and Dictator. (Dictator cuz it takes all golds)

Importance Meter

8-10 Extremely Imp.

5-7 Very Important

1-4 Important

 

 

Well that's all for Today!

Have fun. :D

Signing off

 

 

1. It takes money to maintain the game. If the advantages for the buyers get nerfed, they ain't gonna waste their money on it since there won't be any point in doing so. Which leads to players not being able to play this game for free because the devs can't make enough money to maintain the game.

 

2. You can take it up with the complaint book. But the main reason the MM is not as good as it should be is because HTML5 hasn't been released in the game.

 

3. Not important.

 

4. You missed a ton within the last couple years.

 

5. I actually agree that there should be more maps in the map pool for non pro battles.

 

6. Advertising the game could help, but it also needs to be updated otherwise the game loses players due to lack of updates. Or so I heard.

 

7. Once working properly, the Matchmaking system should solve that issue.

 

8. Thunder is fine, smoky is fine, Viking is well ok, dictator isn't OP. Gold boxes should not take priority over the battle itself.

Edited May 31, 2018 by DieselPlatinum

[mr.bryant 36]

You know what guys, I'm coming, even more, to realize that tanki is NOT a game anymore... it's a business. In fact, the entire reason I joined this forum this year was to help people realize that tanki is a business. And it's a good thing to that a bunch of other people on the forum are helping people realize that tanki is a business.

 

No game has ever(ok well maybe a few) been created to not be a business, a business was the root reason for the devs in creating tanki. Imo, the devs don't really care what people think of the updates, as long as it keeps their $$$ rolling in.

oh ya and I forgot

 

#RemoveMatchmaking

[Skepta 405]

Well... if Seymon Kirov somehow comes back then all of these nonsense updates will be gone and things will go back to normal...  :ph34r:  :ph34r:

[Guest]

1. Roll out HTML5

2. Advertise

 

 

 

oh ya and I forgot

 

#RemoveMatchmaking

Thanks for making me remember...

#KeepMatchmaking  ;)

Edited June 1, 2018 by Guest

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Well... if Seymon Kirov somehow comes back then all of these nonsense updates will be gone and things will go back to normal...  :ph34r:  :ph34r:

CMs have nothing to do with updates. Their job is to, well, manage the community, not make development decisions.

[Wes.Is.Just.A.Digger 1,712]

Well if I posted this topic as a suggestion i'm not sure it would even last a day before it got taken down. You could probably post it though cause the mods actually like you not me 

 

This topic is about a question, where suggestions can be made, in replies. But the topic is not a suggestion itself. 

Some mods don't like me as they fall in the Haters category simply because I am one of the biggest buyers in TO as well as I help/sponsor others players, but these mods must live with me, or they gonna lose their "jobs" if they abuse ban me. As well as I don't like some of them because of way too much arrogance, vendetta puffs also someone true noob (not at turning turret, but at administrative tasks). If a topic is opened or closed or merged in my case is not related to if mods like me or not. 

[mr.bryant 36]

          This topic is about a question, where suggestions can be made, in replies. But the topic is not a suggestion itself. 

          Some mods don't like me as they fall in the Haters category simply because I am one of the biggest buyers in TO as well as I help/sponsor others players, but these mods must live with me, or they gonna lose their "jobs" if they abuse ban me. As well as I don't like some of them because of way too much arrogance, vendetta puffs also someone true noob (not at turning turret, but at administrative tasks). If a topic is opened or closed or merged in my case is not related to if mods like me or not. 

Oh come on you know the mods love you. Either way this topic wouldn't make sense as a suggestion anyway, waht would it suggest?

[TankiOnline.Pakistan 9]

i believe that developer needs to remove few updates, x2 funds must be for all battles , pro battles must have the same respect as the non-pro batles.  this is so unfair for players who only plays xp, Most players with rank greater than brigadier plays pro battles and this is so unfair that double battle funds are onlly available for non pro battle.

 

well i think developers knows better than us they are the developer having more experience then us and they will always try their best to make tanki online better, because more players means more revenue :) 

[Mr.Eswar 188]

 

It depends. Players see only their own point of view, which is very limited and destructible for TO as a business. In my short career, I have already learned and experienced one simple thing, it is so valid, that there is no place to negotiate this truth: a business is a business, not a "charity". The moment you start to do charity with your business (e.g. feel pity for players of a game asking for free supplies in our case, just as a small example) because you confuse the two different concepts, you are on a losing hand.
Now, back to more specific details, I keep seeing players stating they are quitting the game, that others 992837492383720938209 have been quitting the game already. Maybe, but what they don't see and what they don't know, are others 99283749837439833892 things - e.g. how many *new* players are joining the game, how many of them are customers purchasing TO services with real money, so on.
Imo, Tanki is already successful enough. I know most of you will totally disagree with me - but a very well organised department of Tanki is - Front End Support Team - it perfectly runs according to ITIL (checked/verified it so many times). I would be glad to nominate this professional team in any international best HelpDesk contests - if there are any.
In order to grow success there can be many different strategies - attract private investors, sell the business to a bigger one (MSN, Oracle), or fusion with them in order to gain more players, or target higher age players in order to gain more customers, keep up to date with tech changes, adapt, innovate, vision. Target more channels (e.g. whats tanki already doing - mobile version) and first of all, as Hexed already said, "advertisment". Advertisment is the soul of commerce. McDonalds itself is every day on the streets, landing flyers, on the radio, on panels, all over, but it is every day, everywhere.

 

@ @fe4f3 : Is this answering your question?

who in this world will be able to read this 999999 paragraph ????

 

 

 

Tanki is already down....maybe it can be saved if seymon comes back ..

 

 

i believe that developer needs to remove few updates, x2 funds must be for all battles , pro battles must have the same respect as the non-pro batles. this is so unfair for players who only plays xp, Most players with rank greater than brigadier plays pro battles and this is so unfair that double battle funds are onlly available for non pro battle.

 

well i think developers knows better than us they are the developer having more experience then us and they will always try their best to make tanki online better, because more players means more revenue :)

i disagree with you actually.. during 2015 there was *5 funds XD ...those days were fun but later during 2016 tanki players started thinking smart .. mults,power lvling, increasing funds in pro battles etc ... but it is also sad that we have to face the druggers always

[Coat 2,280]

992837492383720938209

is that.....the number of bacteria on Earth?

[gokuMI6 1,290]

i do not understand why u guys hates Matchmaking?? Mistakes are done by everyone and good thing is that they are trying to improve it!

At last a guy who think like me 

[I.Cinderella_Man 8]

The players have no drive to keep playing this game, man you basically have everything at ur finger tips

They brought gold box purchases so basically there is no demand/excitement for gold boxes again, u might think its a good update but i dont see it

I used to get so nervous when gold falls, now i just ignore it and cap flags

You have containers, players get any paint they want with just a type in of a few numbers

Players have 50% protection against any turret and full drugs on as always, now drones and overdrives makes u more powerful

There is no challenge in it anymore

there is an equilibrium to everything, if the players have everything they want they wouldnt see the need to keep playing 

Edited June 5, 2018 by I.Cinderella_Man

[Potdindy 866]

You want to keep this game successful? I would say you need to cater more to a more mature audience. This game is so fun and takes a lot of skill. The difference between a new player and experienced player is clearly seen, but with many players being young, some just cannot play at the level of older ones, nor will they spend money. Two suggestion:

 

Maybe more realistic graphics in the map. The shapes are fine, but perhaps textures could be looked at.

 

Push competitive play. Compare it to successful card games. Players come in young for the casual play, but stay for the competitive play. Hold more competitions and stream them. Then the best players will be well known and other players who might quit at the marshal level might continue so that they might be like them. Allowing forums to be spent talking about different strategies and tactics in different forums instead of ranting about matchmaking and drugs would bring in and keep an older audience I believe

[shafter9 156]

You want to keep this game successful? I would say you need to cater more to a more mature audience. This game is so fun and takes a lot of skill. The difference between a new player and experienced player is clearly seen, but with many players being young, some just cannot play at the level of older ones, nor will they spend money. Two suggestion:

 

Maybe more realistic graphics in the map. The shapes are fine, but perhaps textures could be looked at.

 

Push competitive play. Compare it to successful card games. Players come in young for the casual play, but stay for the competitive play. Hold more competitions and stream them. Then the best players will be well known and other players who might quit at the marshal level might continue so that they might be like them. Allowing forums to be spent talking about different strategies and tactics in different forums instead of ranting about matchmaking and drugs would bring in and keep an older audience I believe

I think that graphics aren't that important. If they were, then no one would play minecraft.

Balance is more important. I hope Tanki can find a different source of making money instead of selling supplies. Tanki X can make money by selling mostly visual modifications, instead of OP-ness

[Potdindy 866]

I think that graphics aren't that important. If they were, then no one would play minecraft.

Balance is more important. I hope Tanki can find a different source of making money instead of selling supplies. Tanki X can make money by selling mostly visual modifications, instead of OP-ness

Fair point, but what about the second point

[Guest]

You want to keep this game successful? I would say you need to cater more to a more mature audience. This game is so fun and takes a lot of skill. The difference between a new player and experienced player is clearly seen, but with many players being young, some just cannot play at the level of older ones, nor will they spend money. Two suggestion:

 

Maybe more realistic graphics in the map. The shapes are fine, but perhaps textures could be looked at.

 

Push competitive play. Compare it to successful card games. Players come in young for the casual play, but stay for the competitive play. Hold more competitions and stream them. Then the best players will be well known and other players who might quit at the marshal level might continue so that they might be like them. Allowing forums to be spent talking about different strategies and tactics in different forums instead of ranting about matchmaking and drugs would bring in and keep an older audience I believe

1. This is why the mobile version will need separate servers. We can't have a player who is pulling off 360 shots with his/her xpbp gear in the same battle with a 8 year old who is playing on his mother's phone.

 

2. Some props need a complete rework. We can't have a houses with doors larger than tanks!

 

3.This might alienate some of the younger players I was talking about. Unless the PC and mobile servers get separated as I stated earlier.

 

4. The forum in one sentence.  :lol:

[shafter9 156]

 

 

Push competitive play. Compare it to successful card games. Players come in young for the casual play, but stay for the competitive play. Hold more competitions and stream them. Then the best players will be well known and other players who might quit at the marshal level might continue so that they might be like them. Allowing forums to be spent talking about different strategies and tactics in different forums instead of ranting about matchmaking and drugs would bring in and keep an older audience I believe

No one will watch streams. Competitions are hard to "get into." Xp/bp is pretty competitive. You aren't helping the forum situation. And tanki was never very strategic compared to some games. And the strategies have already been delved into in the newspaper.

[mr.bryant 36]

That is very correct statement(s) you have.

 

Moderators are not allowed to abuse their power. Read: https://en.tankiwiki.com/Forum_moderators if you wish to learn more specifically about forum moderators

 

Matchmaking is a good update in terms of battles being balanced (except the Legend vs Recruit "bug" that still exists" The only bad things are poor management of the game, and how matchmaking is not completely finished in development. Although matchmaking is (somewhat) necessary, I generally have a negative opinion about it.

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And yes, the developers need to work on marketing [definition: advertising (for those of you that don't know ;))] the game, so they can balance out the amount of active players with new players. They also need to consider on making the game more interesting for recruits. Right now, it's very bland for them, and they lose interest fast.

 

All games are (somewhat) businesses, as games need money to manage their game servers and software in order to keep the game in a good working order position. Although the software that "Tanki" uses is not the latest (which is a bad thing), it's all they have (for now) until they change it. So we all just deal with it, or maybe take a break from this game like I'm about to do... #WorkOnMatchmakingForNowThenWorkOnOtherThings

 

How far?

 

I agree with this idea, that "Tanki" needs to bring back some old things that we used to enjoy. Right now it's not doing so well... I already suggested "protect new players from buyers" idea a few years back in 2013.

 

I agree with most of this.

 

OK, now that is what "Tanki" needs here. They can't properly run the game without players opinion on what is going to change.

Correct thought. I agree with every part of what you said. We need player opinion before something happens. Run it like a real business.

 

Mods care about everybody. It's difficult to become any type of mod and remain as one. I learnt that on one of my other accounts. That was not pretty getting mad at a certain user...

 

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Ok, I'm done reading this. Goodbye.

WOW, I'm glad your not a mod

[mr.bryant 36]

And your not a mod so please stop acting like one by putting in bold Hidden  everywhere