Drones, Batteries and Modules Update

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

14 individuals (13 turrets + mines) gives you 14*13*12 = 2184 combinations of triple modules

But the order is not important.

 

If you had just 3 protections, a, b, c

you don't have to count a,b,c - a,c,b - b,a,c - b,c,a - c,a,b - c,b,a

it's just 1 combination

 

If you had 14 protections

 

     n!

------------

 r! (n-r)!

 

Where n is the number of protections and r is the number allowed to be chosen

 

364 combinations.

[sezze100 416]

Yes but this logic is flawed.  Pedro's new collection of 13 modules are "worth" 11 million crystals only because TO set an obscenely high price on teh new system. What if TO has set the price twice as high?  Should Pedro be twice as happy because the same protections are "worth" 22? 

 

No, because that arbitrary price does not mean anything to Pedro. What foes mean something to him is teh fact TO announced player with redundent modules would get batteries.  But they lied. Pedro got no batteries despite owning over 20 modules!!!!

 

A scam is a scam is a scam. It's Russia's #1 export industry!

Batteries , you need to buy them anyway ... you gotta sponser them a littlebit for making so much calculations .

Lets not forget , besides the batteries ... if you want to use them you need the drones also .

They can stuff their drones together with the MM in that dark spot where the sun doesnt shine .

[jaydevjaydev 343]

But the order is not important.

 

If you had just 3 protections, a, b, c

you don't have to count a,b,c - a,c,b - b,a,c - b,c,a - c,a,b - c,b,a

it's just 1 combination

 

If you had 14 protections

 

     n!

------------

 r! (n-r)!

 

Where n is the number of protections and r is the number allowed to be chosen

 

364 combinations.

Yeah exactly .. he is finding Permutations instead of combinations..

[Mr.SkiIIZz 244]

Conclusion: To see the benefits of this update you need understand math? Xdd

Edited June 4, 2018 by Mr.SkiIIZz

[Platao 0]

beautiful update.then the game will grow more and more and make the battles more competitive

[amsterdamn 242]

I report errors in the conversion of my moduls.

 

I have been robbed of the following:

(1) 50% railgun protection - now is 47%

(2) 50% freeze protection    now is 42%

(3) 50% smokey protection - now is 42%

 

Can I have the worth in crystals back, please?

Thank you.

[jaydevjaydev 343]

Conclusion: To see the benefits of this update you need to be good at math? Xdd

Maybe you can say so! EVeryone are just considering - we had 30 modules now I have just 14 - not the fact that with this update we can create a number of modules including the ones which you had previously had (notthose having 4 protections)

 

 

But drones update is not good considering battery power consumption is too much - we need better batteries that last longers + they are cheap

Edited June 4, 2018 by jaydevjaydev

[amsterdamn 242]

I have to add: I report even further errors and loss:

 

(4) I have been robbed of other former protection modules in railgun etc. that I had invested in and I got nothing in return, yet

(5) No batteries or crystal refund whatsoever...

 

Can I have the worth in crystals back, please?

Thank you.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Please change and update the following pages on the Wiki:

 

1. Modules - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Modules.

 

2. Micro upgrades - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Micro-upgrades.

 

3. Add all the recent and latest updates of the matchmaking system, modules, drones and batteries - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Updates.

 

4. Work on micro upgrades are not finished - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Alterations

[Smoky_Donkey 29]

Hahahahahahahahahahahha

Protection modules update as I expected has arrived a couple of days before the discount. I saved crystals to buy 2 M2 modules (Ursa T-H, Grizzly T-A) for 50.000 crystals each, 100.000 crystals in total. Now with the update for the same result I have to pay 300.000 crystals.

Well done!

As Einstein would say: Leck mich am Fuß!

[SandmanDRW 5]

:( Just another way to use our supplies faster.

[CooperO 7,956]

I report errors in the conversion of my moduls.

 

I have been robbed of the following:

(1) 50% railgun protection - now is 47%

(2) 50% freeze protection    now is 42%

(3) 50% smokey protection - now is 42%

 

Can I have the worth in crystals back, please?

Thank you.

I will forward this, in the meantime, you should contact the technical support so they can look into your specific case.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

 

 Calm down - it seems you have been highly DISAPPOINTED by devs - did you ever buy in this game?

btw you did Permutations instead of combinations...

First you tell me per your august ruling which answer makes me a 2nd-class citizen in your eyes?

 

That's why I deleted it, capiche?

 

Batteries , you need to buy them anyway ... you gotta sponser them a littlebit for making so much calculations .

Lets not forget , besides the batteries ... if you want to use them you need the drones also .

They can stuff their drones together with the MM in that dark spot where the sun doesnt shine .

I do not mind the concept of drones. In fact I can see them being an interesting way to add a little variety. The issue is the disproportionate costs.

 

For almost a year and a half TO seemed to consistently demonstrate they were aware of the crushing in-game economy. Plaer income was steadily boosted time after time. Mission income had reached the point where players did not have to squeeze every last drop of blood from every Cry. There was a chance to experiment a little. Maybe buy a 2nd hull.  Or expand your protections little.

 

Then in one fell swoop TO introduces this update.  Protection costs are increased five-fold. Drones that cost more than the tank they augment are added. 

 

Grats TO. We're back to a broken economy. You could have just skipped past the last 18 months.

[SporkZilla 1,775]

It's hard to get excited about being able make 24 groups of 3 things out of 4 things when the cost of the things has increased by 200%.

 

(I've already got to Smoky/Hunter M0/10 at Master Sergeant on my latest account and I thought I could easily get the 15K for Kodiak T-F M1 in the sale, so there goes that plan. Might as well forget about protection against multiple turrets; that's buyers-only territory now)

Edited June 4, 2018 by SporkZilla

[II.Dead.Shot.II 3]

XT skins...? -_- ..y not get the easy stuff done and stop making us wait for it.

[I.Suicide.Squad.I 51]

Before the update i had:

5 modules with isida protection

4 modules with fire protection

3 modules with twins protection

3 modules with rail protection

3 modules with hammer protection

2 modules with freeze protection

2 modules with shaft protection

2 modules with magnum protection

2 modules with ricochet protection

2 modules with freeze protection

2 module with smoky protection

1 module with Vulcan protection

1 module with thunder protection

Can someone explain where all the crystals went, since I have gotten 0 batteries!

[Mr.SkiIIZz 244]

Maybe you can say so! EVeryone are just considering - we had 30 modules now I have just 14 - not the fact that with this update we can create a number of modules including the ones which you had previously had (notthose having 4 protections)

 

 

But drones update is not good considering battery power consumption is too much - we need better batteries that last longers + they are cheap

Yes the drones are pay to win. If you play a 10 min battle it will cost you 10 batteries = 3k crystals. You mostly dont make 3k crystals in a battle. So using drones COST you crystals and doesnt MAKE you crystals. So using them while you are not a buyer would be not smart. But ofcourse it can help you get more score and make your team win. But as tanki said they dont want people the rank to fast while they still have low crystals. ( something liek that they said in v-log) So this drone update is doing the opposite. You get more score ( a little) but not more crystals because they cost more than you can make in a battle. 

Also in the tanki livestream they said theyy want to make the game less pay to win and said supplies ( and micro upgrade)where the main thing that made this thing pay to win. 

With this update you are doing the opposite what you are saying and doing the opposite of what MOST players want. 

Logics

If you make the batteries for free it would be an advantage for everyone including the non buyers. The only thing is that everybody would be to OP, so make the reload time longer.

There actually is no solution to this... this update is useless. Its only the look of it and it will change the gameplay a little for buyers. Thats it... 

[wolverine848 13,097]

Well you have been given 13 modules - that is 286 different combinations you can create(if choosing 3 modules). Is there any protection which you had higher percentage before update but now it is reduced? if not then you don't need compensation! For 19 modules you had - you have 286 modules now with same protection as before. 

 

As for batteries , yeah I agree we need to get them for free. Lets wait for a few days - maybe they will soon add them in missions. However it will be in lesser compared to other supplies(except repairs) because of high cost.

 

 

 

 Calm down - it seems you have been highly DISAPPOINTED by devs - did you ever buy in this game?

btw you did Permutations instead of combinations...

Someone bought 5 modules for... 5x125k ends up with 14 modules today.

versus

Someone who bought 10 modules for ... 10x125k ends up with 14 modules today.

 

Each protected same but... player 2 spend 2x as much crystals and ends up with same protection.

 

And you don't think player 2 should get some sort of compensation?

[Pyre 3,485]

Please change and update the following pages on the Wiki:

 

1. Modules - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Modules.

 

2. Micro upgrades - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Micro-upgrades.

 

3. Add all the recent and latest updates of the matchmaking system, modules, drones and batteries - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Updates.

 

4. Work on micro upgrades are not finished - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Alterations

Suggestions to the wiki editors should go here.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

There are 12 drones in total. Developers released only 3 as a starter. What shall the other 9 drones do to player's tanks?

 

[Dunkin_The_Puppy 0]

Module update is OK, I like the flexibility and now I can upgrade some old modules again, so overall an improvement.  Not sure how some of them were adjusted; it looks like I just lost duplicate modules that overlapped.

 

Haven't tried the drones: I just hope it doesn't overly complicate the game.

 

Matchmaking remains the worst Tanki modification of all time. 

[jaydevjaydev 343]

Yes the drones are pay to win. If you play a 10 min battle it will cost you 10 batteries = 3k crystals. You mostly dont make 3k crystals in a battle. So using drones COST you crystals and doesnt MAKE you crystals. So using them while you are not a buyer would be not smart. But ofcourse it can help you get more score and make your team win. But as tanki said they dont want people the rank to fast while they still have low crystals. ( something liek that they said in v-log) So this drone update is doing the opposite. You get more score ( a little) but not more crystals because they cost more than you can make in a battle. 

Also in the tanki livestream they said theyy want to make the game less pay to win and said supplies ( and micro upgrade)where the main thing that made this thing pay to win. 

With this update you are doing the opposite what you are saying and doing the opposite of what MOST players want. 

Logics

If you make the batteries for free it would be an advantage for everyone including the non buyers. The only thing is that everybody would be to OP, so make the reload time longer.

There actually is no solution to this... this update is useless. Its only the look of it and it will change the gameplay a little for buyers. Thats it... 

I am just a WO1 - not seen a drone yet - but i don't drug and still finish a first place(talking about battles have lieutenants and WO5 with m2s) and what I use is M0 or HALF M1 . 

But drones won't cost 3k cry every battle because they also need to be recharged. And if you really want to use them just buy 1 battery and at one point in game equip it(I am not sure it works or not but it should) . But this doesn't hide the fact that drones are P2W.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Someone bought 5 modules for... 5x125k ends up with 14 modules today.

versus

Someone who bought 10 modules for ... 10x125k ends up with 14 modules today.

 

Each protected same but... player 2 spend 2x as much crystals and ends up with same protection.

 

And you don't think player 2 should get some sort of compensation?

My guess is his answer is 'yes' if player 2 is a buyer and 'no' if player 2 is a daily missioner.

Edited June 4, 2018 by LittleWillie

[Viking4s 10,791]

Don't you think you are considering permutations - A, B , C and D . Choose any 3 

A B D

A B C

A C D

B C D

 

It is wrong.. 4 individual modules gives you just 4 combinations .

There are 364 total combinations - and previously 100 (27% of current possible COMBINATIONS)

However it does give you 24 Permutations!

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Yes, my bad. I recalculated.

[sezze100 416]

XT skins...? -_- ..y not get the easy stuff done and stop making us wait for it.

XT skins ... 1.5 million per skin . Pretty good buy if you buy them now .