Beginners' Guide to Drones

[DinKonahe 117]

Advice from me to noob player : -

Don't buy too much drones unless indeed. Just buy only one drone that you like, if you have too much batteries like me, or keep druggin' without any drones.

[Double_Th3_Shots 164]

So if I had trickster drone...I could use speed boost then immediately after use DA and DD and there be no reloading on those supplies?

[DinKonahe 117]

According to the wiki: After activating Speed Boost, cancels the reload on all other supplies and shares this effect with nearby allies.

 

Unfortunately I don;t own one so I have not tried it.

The first supply you activate would have no reloading, this is certain, while the doubt is regarding the second supply activation, will you have cool-down or not?

You should try first before telling someone about this.

[DinKonahe 117]

What are you afraid about? Do you suggest that the wiki is wrong?

 

It is half an answer, I agree, and mainly because the wiki [and garage description] is vague/incomplete. Trying it will actually answer the question fully. But at 140k I'm not going to buy just for trying, especially that other drones are more efficient.

Well, I hate any enemies that use drone as their backup. What could possibility go wrong?

[DinKonahe 117]

"Hate", this is a strong word. A drone is not a back up, it is a weapon. 

It is true that nobody likes a strong player with OP equipment that you cannot afford.  

Everything can go wrong, for example the player might find someone OP just like him. 

You know, you always right about this.

But what happen if drugger meet drone user? Who'll win?

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

You know, you always right about this.

But what happen if drugger meet drone user? Who'll win?

It depends on the drone. 

[DinKonahe 117]

It depends on the drone. 

:o

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

:o

Assuming you're the drugger:

 

Yeah. An Assault Drone can't do you anything if there are no supplies active on the enemy with the drone. Even at that, the enemy has to kill you to activate it.

 

The enemy may have a Trooper Drone but the effects activate from the enemy's respawn. You can catch them without any supplies in the middle of the battlefield. 

 

The Mechanic Drone doesn't hurt you. In a 1 v 1 situation, the extra healing at low # of upgrades is negligible for some turrets. 

 

The Driver Drone only activate when they kill you. 

 

The Miner Drone only activates when they die. Even at that, you still have to run over the mines they placed somewhere on the map assuming they even laid any at all. 

 

The Engineer Drone can be a nuisance if the battle between you and the enemy is more than 30 seconds. Your supply time would run out while they have at least 20 seconds of whatever supply they took up left. 

 

The Sprinter Drone wouldn't be so bad. They have to capture a point, pick up a flag or Rugby ball to activate it. In TDM, they wouldn't be a threat. 

 

The Defender drone's effects don't last very long and you can wait the 3-5 seconds before the strength of the effect wears off. 

 

The Supplier Drone would basically make the enemy a regular enemy.  

 

The Booster Drone is deadly and can counteract the Defender Drone. 

 

Depending on the turret you're using, the enemy with the Lifeguard Drone can either die easily just like the others or give them extra time to damage you more or kill you. 

 

The Trickster Drone user can put itself in almost equal footing to you in less than a second. 

 

The Blaster Drone is the drone doing the direct damage to enemies. If you're engaged in a heated melee ranged fight, it's likely that when the drone user dies, the damage would kill you as well. 

 

The Saboteur Drone user can't really do much to the you since you can just avoid the mines. 

 

The Camper Drone user would only achieve its Drone's effects if their own supplies ran out. 

 

 

 

This is assuming that the drone user chooses to drug or not. For most of the examples above, I assumed that the Drone user wasn't using supplies. If they were using supplies, then I'd say the drugger would still be on top or they would be on equal footing. 

[Merovingian 656]

Great.

Edited April 27, 2019 by Merovingian

[Infernapo 16]

I am not one to boast my experience according to my rank. But I feel that Drones are meaningless. They don't effect the outcome heavily. Also the cost of batteries is INSANE. Who'd like to spend 300 per minute.  

[Infernapo 16]

I disagree, they help get more kills, stay longer alive or extend the time of your supplies. Like every equipment it is about how you use it: when and for which purpose. II only use with parsimony the batteries that I got from the daily mission rewards and containers. 

That is interesting. But I don't feel that the outcome would differ much if you do not use drones. I mean I of course wouldn't know till I don't use them. But I sure have seen someone using them. There was a Staff Sergeant M2-Buying-Drugger who has Assault Drone I assume. He was OP. His GS was 5000+. That drone gave him supplies as he spawned.

 

But drones are useful according to circumstances only. Like when someone is camping your base and you spawn with all supplies and can run away. Or for example you are using the Booster drone on Railgun with RD alt and you get a lucky shot on a JGR and one shot him  :D

 

 

 

 

Edit; Also I'd like your comment if I could. So consider it liked please.

Edited May 2, 2019 by Infernapo

[Infernapo 16]

You are 100% right here "drones are useful according to circumstances only."  Your "job" is to be in this specific circumstance as many time/long as possible, either by opportunity or by creating them. Sometime you better  unequipped them because they don't hep you or change to a more adequate one.

 

But, there is also a plus now with the drones, they gave you extra protection from 1 to 5%. Consequently they also help a little bit all the time you have them on. 5% is not negligible especially if everybody as the same equipment strength then with a drone you will be ahead of the crowd.

 Welp. I still won't change my opinion. Drones are meaningless for people who haven't yet decided which equipment they want to use or what role do they want to play and are especially meaningless for beginners. For peoples who have maxed out their garage, well they can afford them. Else it's a waste of crystals.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

 Welp. I still won't change my opinion. Drones are meaningless for people who haven't yet decided which equipment they want to use or what role do they want to play and are especially meaningless for beginners. For peoples who have maxed out their garage, well they can afford them. Else it's a waste of crystals.

They begin to be game-changing when they're upgraded a lot. If you have a max-levelled Saboteur Drone, then you can fortify the entrances to your base in 3 minutes. The enemy wouldn't be able to even enter your base without dying. If the player had a Saboteur Drone with 2 upgrades, then the protection of the base is certainly less and enemies are able to pool in if one of them sacrifices themself to the mines for their teammates' benefit. But those are high-rank situations; let's do some low rank drones now:

 

Mechanic: This is one of the drones that doesn't even need to be upgraded as it is basically as useful at 0/20 upgrades as it is at 20/20 upgrades. 

 

Driver: A Driver Drone at 0/20 upgrades can be beneficial but having it at 20/20 makes you have many Overdrives in one game. Overdrives in itself are very powerful and having them every minute (if you're efficient enough with your kills) is detrimental to the enemy team. 

 

Engineer: This drone is almost as useful at 0/20 upgrades as it is at 20/20 upgrades. The only thing the upgrades effect is the amount of extra supply time the user receives. Your allies receive the standard 30 seconds of the supply you picked up.

 

Assault: At 0/20, this drone doesn't really make you a game-changer. You can only get, at most, 9 extra seconds of active supplies. With 20/20, you can theoretically have supplies active for the entire battle assuming you die 0 times. If your tank is always powered up, spawning enemies have less of a chance or survival as they can only activate one supply upon respawning. 

 

 

You can have your own reasons for buying a drone.  My reason for buying the Mechanic Drone while I was still upgrading equipment was so that i can help my team defend a point when a bunch of us may have already used a repair kit and the smart cooldown is active. You can buy the Trooper Drone so that you can combat fully-drugged players you may have spawned next to. If you think they're meaningless and a wast of crystals, that's quite alright. I see them as an enhancer and a way to turn the tide of a battle. 

[Infernapo 16]

* Following the Patch Update #551, all drones now increase turret damage and hull protection by 1% to 5%, depending on their upgrade level, however it is not clear how this actually works. Any turrets or just the one you have protection modules?

=> Answered here => Increased hull's HP - e.g. 5000 becomes 5050 (if 1%) and 5250 (if 5%).

 

Drones really do that ?

[Infernapo 16]

They begin to be game-changing when they're upgraded a lot. If you have a max-levelled Saboteur Drone, then you can fortify the entrances to your base in 3 minutes. The enemy wouldn't be able to even enter your base without dying. If the player had a Saboteur Drone with 2 upgrades, then the protection of the base is certainly less and enemies are able to pool in if one of them sacrifices themself to the mines for their teammates' benefit. But those are high-rank situations; let's do some low rank drones now:

 

Mechanic: This is one of the drones that doesn't even need to be upgraded as it is basically as useful at 0/20 upgrades as it is at 20/20 upgrades. 

 

Driver: A Driver Drone at 0/20 upgrades can be beneficial but having it at 20/20 makes you have many Overdrives in one game. Overdrives in itself are very powerful and having them every minute (if you're efficient enough with your kills) is detrimental to the enemy team. 

 

Engineer: This drone is almost as useful at 0/20 upgrades as it is at 20/20 upgrades. The only thing the upgrades effect is the amount of extra supply time the user receives. Your allies receive the standard 30 seconds of the supply you picked up.

 

Assault: At 0/20, this drone doesn't really make you a game-changer. You can only get, at most, 9 extra seconds of active supplies. With 20/20, you can theoretically have supplies active for the entire battle assuming you die 0 times. If your tank is always powered up, spawning enemies have less of a chance or survival as they can only activate one supply upon respawning. 

 

 

You can have your own reasons for buying a drone.  My reason for buying the Mechanic Drone while I was still upgrading equipment was so that i can help my team defend a point when a bunch of us may have already used a repair kit and the smart cooldown is active. You can buy the Trooper Drone so that you can combat fully-drugged players you may have spawned next to. If you think they're meaningless and a wast of crystals, that's quite alright. I see them as an enhancer and a way to turn the tide of a battle. 

The cost is still to much -.-

[DinKonahe 117]

I should update the guide with 2 things:

* Following the Patch Update #551, all drones now increase turret damage and hull protection by 1% to 5%, depending on their upgrade level, however it is not clear how this actually works. Any turrets or just the one you have protection modules?

=> Answered here => Increased hull's HP - e.g. 5000 becomes 5050 (if 1%) and 5250 (if 5%).

* The meaning of the red indicator in the garage over the drones which means that you are running out of battery. (I need a better pic, but I am not running out of battery :) )

Drones really do that ?

yes

Whoa, seriously, I don't know that.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

=> Answered here => Increased hull's HP - e.g. 5000 becomes 5050 (if 1%) and 5250 (if 5%).

No, it reduces incoming damage by 1 to 5 percent. And it stacks multiplicative to DA and modules.

[r_Conquest3 17]

I agree with all and disagree with all to. I feel drones are almost meaningless for a F2P low rank player unless they have stacked crystals up for years and are ready to have no life. As for high rankers it can be bought as a leisure item. Drones do effect the outcome and the high rank drones are quite interesting. But it doesn't really matter if you don't use 'em.

[r_Conquest3 17]

As a skilled F2P you might be abbe to spare some crystals to buy one and MU it to a certain point (1-5 steps) and use the Battery you get for frees. This will give you an advantage over other F2P that do not have one or less skilled than you. Skills is one think and equipment power an other, but combined together it is synergistic.

If you are not skilled, then play until you improve to a point and then start from scratch with a new account and build a strong garage.

Luckily enough I do not lack skill. I have played Tanki for 8 years and am quite used to all the weird changes and almost every turret and hull. Drones however are different. I haven't tried many or haven't seen what they do. And about making a new account, I think if I can handle this one I might think about that.

[Initiate 1,306]

Well I would rather believe the Players that fills in the Wiki based on data from the devs than you, sorry.

=> Answered here 

Well, they were wrong about the range of Hunter's OD (which you chose to deny, but whatever), so I guess we trust @FrozenRailgun.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

Well, well, well, I would rather believe the players that fill in the Wiki based on data from the devs than you, sorry.

=> Answered here 

Nope. I fired my M2 2/10 Shaft fully charged shot and it deal a bit less than 2,640. This means someone he/she has un-upgraded Drone.

 

99% of 2,640 damage is 2613.6. Rounds to 2,614 damage. 

[Initiate 1,306]

If you think/feel that the wiki is holding wrong values (the value is still there) then let know the wiki team here: ★ Tanki Online Wiki Hub ★

Additionally, stay focus on the topic which is about drones. Oh, please come and talk about OD here: Beginner’s Guide to Overdrives

 

 

Thank you

When you try but fail to correct my grammar.... that is correct: in a previous observation, they were wrong. And yet, I will be sure to let know the Wiki team. Please, if you are trying to correct my grammar, read your post over at least once :P

 

Anyways, let me elaborate. If you say that you'd rather trust the Wiki than a player, it is perfectly on topic to say that the Wiki isn't always right. I even - ever so helpfully - provided an example. Perfect! We've got the claim, then the proof. It is just the proverbial cherry on top that your beloved Wiki was wrong, because @FrozenRailgun gave you a specific example. 

 

Lovely sight bite (beautiful phrase, is it not?). If you are done sending pointless things like that, and actually care to have a real discussion about anything, let me know in a PM. Otherwise, your rudeness in PMs and your silly, pointless, failed arguments and attempts to correct my grammar are rather sickening.  I'll leave you be. 

Edited May 25, 2019 by Initiate

[r_Conquest3 17]

Wow that's some heated chat.

[Initiate 1,306]

Let's clarify a couple of things.

 

No English is not my native language. highlighting and correcting my mistake is appreciated, however I should not be bullied because of that. 

Regarding this, I did not correct your quote, you used were which implies that they were wrong and that the supposedly mistake was corrected now. I highlighted it because the value is still there so either it has been overlook by the wiki team or it is the correct value. To me it is the correct value as I trust the wiki. I will cover that again latter. 

 

I can trust whoever I want, and I do trust the wiki and the players that add the content which come from directly from the Developers the guy that are programming the Game. When you spot a mistake you need to tell them via the proper channel: ★ Tanki Online Wiki Hub ★.  Have you done it instead of pursuing me with your allegation?

So, yes I trust ControlledChaos as know him personally as has part of my previous interaction with him and I believe his answer given in an official forum thread here.

I trust him more than @FrozenRailgun who just gave a simple answer in the first place. After being challenged he shared more details on how he went to that conclusion, enough to cast doubt. On the other hand your post are not contributing to the debate, bring more experiments and data, that would be useful. You are the last one I would trust considering our previous interaction.

 

Off-topic Overdrive discussion: The wiki value is correct and official unless you successfully challenge the wiki team about it. I conducted my own experiments which corroborated it, plus your own experiments, that you shared with me in PM, were also pointing in that direction, so I don't need to pursue further this discussion with you. It is a closed. It is rather unfortunate that you are taking this too personally and bring it where ever I post. Please stop, make the wiki change it or let it go.

 

Further off-topic:

"Whom do not like gif do not like human" my granny use to say. Why do you want me to contact you in PM, could you not send me a PM directly? But if you are using this kind of tone (as used in your previous posts), don't expect a reply from me.

Not even sure if I should even reply to this. If English is not your native language, don't try to correct my English. I was right, you were wrong. Of course, I should have guessed from your writing that it was not your first language, but since I didn't perhaps I was slightly hard. Your trying to correct me has erased all pity, though.

 

Anything new?

 

Trust who you want, but I brought up a specific time when the Wiki was wrong. It may come from the devs, but that means they were wrong. Perhaps they made a mistake in the coding? :P

 

Interesting. Let me remind you that I was right, and I said so in the PM. You deleted it. I gave evidence: I lined up the tanks in Garder and found that the OD, at least in that case, was not reaching 30 metres. Our previous interaction, you say? You were the one that started the rudeness. Since you deleted it you won't be able to, but I can quote what I said. I was giving you the best form of flattery, imitation. I gave you a specific example, you gave nothing except "the Wiki says so!" Your pictures were invalid, as I said. I'm giving you the pity points and replying to you.

 

As I said, I was right. My experiments lined up with my hypothesis (first guess). Recall that you actually started it. @wolverine848 said that the OD felt like it did not reach 30 metres. When you backed up the Wiki rather rudely, I did my own tests. Our PM gave you the results, but for curious readers it lined up with what I thought, that at least in my tests, the OD did not go 30 metres.

On the contrary good sir. You brought it up. Again. I pointed out another time when the Wiki was wrong and said it could be the same for the way the drones reduce damage (@FrozenRailgun was right by the way, I've tested it too). You made yet another of your rude posts.  

 

Umm, okay. I guess, some people don't get educations...

Well, remember last time I tried? You did not respond and you deleted the PM. 

Again, sir, imitation is the most complementary form of flattery. I am copying your tone, only better writing, but this would naturally flow from the fact that English is not your first language. Next time you bring up my tone, try to correct yours first. \

 

I'm amazed that I replied to this at all, the first time I read it all I saw was you trying to get my attention.

Don't expect me to ever respond to your trolling my posts. If you care to reform your rude ways, inform me in a PM.

Edited May 26, 2019 by Initiate

[Initiate 1,306]

Wow that's some heated chat.

Lol. I wonder what he's even trying to accomplish? 

 

Sorri 2 mainy colors. Me froggy eyes can;t reed it

 

 

This is, in essence, an admittance of defeat. If you care to actually talk to me, do so. Otherwise, stop trolling my posts, as you put it. You're just making yourself look stupid.

Edited May 26, 2019 by Initiate