New rule Tanki snuck in...you should read this....(talk about cheaters!)

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Quote from Tanki:

Attention! You can only get the next modification for free if you have not yet reached the unlock rank of the modification after it. If you micro-upgrade an M0 turret to 10/10 steps when your rank already allows you to buy M2, you will NOT be able to get the M2 (typo, they mean M1) upgrade for free. Be careful not to waste crystals.

They just wrote this so there is a mistake ...they mean M1 in their example.

 

In other words, if you have that M1 Shaft sitting in your garage that has been upgraded to 8/10 (you spent more than 33960 crystals to get it to M1-MU8 from M0) and you are about to hit Marshal Rank, you better dump in another 38960 crystals or you will lose everything you invested so far because you will NEVER be able to upgrade it once you become Marshal.  If you want a competitive Shaft again you will have to buy an M3 Shaft for the full price...just like you never owned a shaft before.  Yep, 100% full price...no credit for previous investment.

 

This is not the end of the world and won't even affect most players much, but it is a rule change that got snuck in at the Module change over and it is not what Tanki has always done...fully upgrade your equipment and the next level is free when available.   Now, that only applies to the very next level.

 

Personal example:

I have an M0 Firebird Module with 15 protection.  I want to upgrade it to 16, then 17, etc. but I can't...it is dead at 15 and can't go to 16 protection because the 25 protection is available at my current rank.  All I can do is spend 100,000 crystals more to buy the M2 module...the 30,000 crystals I spent before has no bearing at all.

 

This is not fair and I feel cheated because Tanki has ALWAYS said that you could advance to the next level when it became available...now they change policy with no notice.  Is that a kick in the butt or what?

Edited June 12, 2018 by ByeByeBye

[Maf 32,307]

No offence, but this seems like a bit of Internet Explorer situation here :P

 

That note is not a rule. It's a notice I added to the wiki page a few months ago in order to warn players about the way the MU system works, so that they won't accidentally waste crystals thinking they can get a discount. The system itself worked like that ever since developers added the ability to skip purchase of low modifications of equipment (in 2015, I think). So if you are Marshal and own an M1, then go straight from M0 to M3 by purchasing M3 only, instead of having to waste crystals on the M1 and M2.

 

The side effect of this was that it was no longer possible to buy cheaper modifications when a higher modification was already unlocked at your rank. But the wiki also says that if you fully MU your turret/hull, then you can get the next modification for free. This resulted in some players spending a lot of crystals fully upgrading their M0 or M1 in order to get M3 for free, not realising that that's not how it works. So I added a warning to hopefully prevent this.

[Maf 32,307]

Personal example:

I have an M0 Firebird Module with 15 protection.  I want to upgrade it to 16, then 17, etc. but I can't...it is dead at 15 and can't go to 16 protection because the 25 protection is available at my current rank.  All I can do is spend 100,000 crystals more to buy the M2 module...the 30,000 crystals I spent before has no bearing at all.

 

This is not fair and I feel cheated because Tanki has ALWAYS said that you could advance to the next level when it became available...now they change policy with no notice.  Is that a kick in the butt or what?

It's true that some aspects of the module conversion weren't completely fair to players and in some cases involving LGC modules players ended up in an inconvenient situation, but that's the best compromise that developers could find, where players don't lose anything and the economy doesn't suffer. If you think about it - now you can just buy the M2 module for 50k during the next 50% sale and save yourself the time and crystals you would otherwise spend getting the M1 to M2 via micro-upgrades, which would cost you 110 000 crystals even with a 50/70 MU sale.

[bozo88 450]

Thats old news. If you are marshal and have a m0.6 something, you won't be able to get any MUs in the M1 or m2 level, you ill have to buy m3 for full price. Been that way for ages.

 

edit: ages = since 2016 when I started. I noticed it last year when I started getting m2s while having m0s

Edited June 12, 2018 by bozo88

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

No offence, but this seems like a bit of Internet Explorer situation here :P

 

That note is not a rule. It's a notice I added to the wiki page a few months ago in order to warn players about the way the MU system works, so that they won't accidentally waste crystals thinking they can get a discount. The system itself worked like that ever since developers added the ability to skip purchase of low modifications of equipment (in 2015, I think). So if you are Marshal and own an M1, then go straight from M0 to M3 by purchasing M3 only, instead of having to waste crystals on the M1 and M2.

 

The side effect of this was that it was no longer possible to buy cheaper modifications when a higher modification was already unlocked at your rank. But the wiki also says that if you fully MU your turret/hull, then you can get the next modification for free. This resulted in some players spending a lot of crystals fully upgrading their M0 or M1 in order to get M3 for free, not realising that that's not how it works. So I added a warning to hopefully prevent this.

It doesn't seem fair at all.  I paid to upgrade my M0 module. I should be able to take the M1 for a fully upgraded piece of equipment regardless of my rank and whatever is available.  I feel cheated, I really do and something like this should always swing to the side of the customer...it doesn't hurt Tanki or Tanki's economy.   And, yes, at the next sale I can buy a module for 50,000 (if it is 50% and not 30%.  But I really wanted to bring it up gradually since I don't use it much.  There is no way I will shell out 50K or probably 70K for a Protection module at my rank when I already have my three or four favorites.  If I could have increased protection slightly I would have...I feel ripped off by Tanki again.

 

This is going to be another problem when I get to M3....anything I want to keep to continue to upgrade I will be forced to MU to 100% or lose the entire investment.  That is just wrong.  Tanki should do what it claims in many different places...even one of the little dialog windows while you wait for a battle.

 

I am glad you posted this in the Wiki...guaranteed this will catch many players off guard.  It really should be fixed in favor of the player.  Heaven knows Tanki has abused players garage holdings enough already.  Tanki should be GENEROUS and make friends....not piss players off constantly by nit-picky greediness..just like with duplicate protections were just a wash instead of some sort of compensation...no reason.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

This was in effect long before the module change.  It just never came up much then.

 

You are right about being treated unfairly in the conversion though. The devs were lazy in (not really bothering to) designing their conversion. mechanism.  Awarding everyone some batteries would not have undermined the game economy. If anything i would have stimulated participation in the new Drone system.

 

Batteries = Trunc { 3.3^[ log(Module cost) - 2 ] } and you'e done.
 

Edited June 12, 2018 by LittleWillie

[Maf 32,307]

 

But I really wanted to bring it up gradually since I don't use it much. There is no way I will shell out 50K or probably 70K for a Protection module at my rank when I already have my three or four favorites. If I could have increased protection slightly I would have...I feel ripped off by Tanki again.

You're contradicting yourself. You say you aren't willing to pay 50k at once, yet you are willing to spend even more than that by upgrading the module gradually. At your rank 15% protection is practically worthless, so you're much better off saving up 50k and buying the M2 (or even waiting until you can get M3), because getting M1 and upgrading it a few times to get 17-20% will be a waste of crystals.

 

 

This is going to be another problem when I get to M3....anything I want to keep to continue to upgrade I will be forced to MU to 100% or lose the entire investment. That is just wrong. Tanki should do what it claims in many different places...even one of the little dialog windows while you wait for a battle.

It's true that the 100% discount was added partially to encourage players to spend more crystals. It does benefit you in some situations, but in others it's more of a waste than a benefit. But just think about it - you have an 8/10 M1 module that gives you 23% protection. So you can either spend 37k to get to M2 for free and then spend up to 250k slowly upgrading it to M3, or you can get marshal rank and buy an M3 directly during the next sale, spending only 125k total. Even those 8 steps weren't wasted - you were taking advantage of the upgraded module the whole time while you were playing at lower ranks.

[wolverine848 13,097]

It's true that the 100% discount was added partially to encourage players to spend more crystals. It does benefit you in some situations, but in others it's more of a waste than a benefit. But just think about it - you have an 8/10 M1 module that gives you 23% protection. So you can either spend 37k to get to M2 for free and then spend up to 250k slowly upgrading it to M3, or you can get marshal rank and buy an M3 directly during the next sale, spending only 125k total. Even those 8 steps weren't wasted - you were taking advantage of the upgraded module the whole time while you were playing at lower ranks.

Some odd situations where-by a LGC modules had varying protections...

 

Example Cherry. came in an M3 kit with 30/25/20 protections for Twins/Thunder/Vulcan.

I upgraded to ~ 34/28/23 before the separation.  Then the cost to MU seemed crazy compared to new modules.

 

At same time medic kit received the Shark TD-3 module at 35% for each.  Boy was I mad.

 

To top it off when the recent conversion was done, as that Cherry LGC was my only source of Vulcan I ended up with an M1 module at 23%.

So I can't even MU that beyond M2 and now have to save up for an M3 at 250k.  Jeebers. :o

[bozo88 450]

I will say that I agree slightly with OP regarding this issue and Modules. (for the rest of equipment I think it is fine). I kinda disagree with @Maf, for  our rank, 15% isn't much, but 15% is better than nothing. My friend the 2nd Lt had to crash buy modules on sale because the she is close to 1st lt, when many modules turn over from m1 to m2, and some protection is better than none.

 

(If I ran the zoo, I would have given everyone currently registered m0 of any modules they didn't own) 

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

That rule should be changed, if you have an M0.10 you shouldn't be forced to buy M2 and not get M1 for free because you may not want or need M2 at the moment, but you may want to get the M1 and MU it 3 or 4 steps.

[mr.bryant 36]

IMO there should be no micro upgrades anyway

[Derpy12345 0]

IMO there should be no micro upgrades anyway

Ya micro upgrades are dumb

 

 

 

[bozo88 450]

 

Ya micro upgrades are dumb

 

 

 

 

I seem to recall being your rank, having m0.7 firebird and hunter, and beating an awful lot of ass because I had better equipment than everyone else. Next time you are complaining about a "noob" turret, remember how dumb micro upgrades are.

 

It doesn't seem fair at all.  I paid to upgrade my M0 module.…

So you do, to m0.10, not m1s and m2s.

[Person_Random 4,991]

Ya micro upgrades are dumb

That's what my noob acc did.  And then it was a mess.  Pls don't call MUs dumb because they are actually useful against those who don't MU.  Case in point: I'm competitive with people 5 ranks higher than me.  Hopefully you are using your crystals for something good.