Declined matchmaking: choosing maps

[NTSH 0]

It should be cool if we can choose a preference for maps or at least make sure the current system go trough all maps ,that's because i am playing almost the same 5 maps over and over and over.i miss so much a noise battle

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Declined

 

The problem is that in a match making system you have to wait for enough players that "fit" you battle.. which means similar power on both teams and so on. If you now split the queue of waiting players into separate queues for chosen maps as well, you end up with longer waiting times.

 

So for the moment this can't be done. If Tanki would have 20x the players online simultaneously (and those all use matchmaking) then it would be a possibility. But not at the moment.

[Person_Random 4,991]

How about if you choose a certain number (like maybe 5) maps that you want to play with?  There will be a higher chance that people of the same level and skill will want to play those maps.

[SkilL-KoRnEL 117]

You dont can change a map obón Macthmaking.

[loginci 877]

@BlackWasp777 if you want to get more players into this game , you have to keep this game alive by updating this game according to players' likes and dislikes.Developpers making this game pay to win. Nobody says you don't earn money. You can earn ofc , you have to do this. For example , you added clan tags into game. Buyers buy clan tags and non-Buyers don't buy clan tags and we all non-Buyers dont even care about clan tags. We just join clan tags and this clan tag update didn't effect us and tanki earns money of this update so we both are happy. 

 

But.. what's the point of this rename pass? we can't change our nicks anymore. You think players loved this update? ahah ofc no , okay if you want to make rename pass update , make it as we don't effect badly. make it possible to change nicks 100k also get rename pass into shop. This won't effect us also in the same time tanki will earn money. This was just a simple example. If you update this game like that, too many players won't leave from this game and stay , also they will tell their friends about tanki.

[BlackEliteEnemy2 250]

But.. what's the point of this rename pass? we can't change our nicks anymore. You think players loved this update? ahah ofc no , okay if you want to make rename pass update , make it as we don't effect badly. make it possible to change nicks 100k also get rename pass into shop. This won't effect us also in the same time tanki will earn money. This was just a simple example. If you update this game like that, too many players won't leave from this game and stay , also they will tell their friends about tanki.

True. Those who will buy Rename pass will buy it either way cuz they can't wait to earn 100k, and those who are free to play will still have chance to change nick. But yea, it's only fashionable stuff. Then why players get random nick when they start game? Like Noob1, Noob2, Buyer1, etc.

 

Declined

So for the moment this can't be done. If Tanki would have 20x the players online simultaneously (and those all use matchmaking) then it would be a possibility. But not at the moment.

Really? And, after MMS is released player number almost halved (if it didn't, it is >30%).

EXPLAIN, WHY IS MATCHMAKING NECESSARY TO KEEP GAME ALIVE?

Rather than adding useless stuff, go through this forum, work on stuff players want!

 

 

Btw, why aren't there any decorations or sth about this World Cup? Like 4 yrs ago.

Next year i don't expect any discounts on any event at all.

 

Here's idea, remove Gold Boxes :D Make it only available via shop. Same for equipment.

Sadly, once a nice game, became pay to win, devs and mods only see this via Money. Why?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

@BlackWasp777 if you want to get more players into this game , you have to keep this game alive by updating this game according to players' likes and dislikes.Developpers making this game pay to win. Nobody says you don't earn money. You can earn ofc , you have to do this. For example , you added clan tags into game. Buyers buy clan tags and non-Buyers don't buy clan tags and we all non-Buyers dont even care about clan tags. We just join clan tags and this clan tag update didn't effect us and tanki earns money of this update so we both are happy. 

 

But.. what's the point of this rename pass? we can't change our nicks anymore. You think players loved this update? ahah ofc no , okay if you want to make rename pass update , make it as we don't effect badly. make it possible to change nicks 100k also get rename pass into shop. This won't effect us also in the same time tanki will earn money. This was just a simple example. If you update this game like that, too many players won't leave from this game and stay , also they will tell their friends about tanki.

The way you address me, makes me think you misunderstand my role.

I am not a member of game design group, neither an official employee. None of us in the group of forum moderators is - except Nives.

 

I completely agree to you, that a rename pass of 14 EUR / or however USD is.. damn pricy. I would have left it a 100k in crystals and 5 EUR/ 5USD if you like to get a shortcut to that rename. Maybe if you pay additionally 10 EUR/ 10 USD if you like to get your former nick locked up for one year during the rename process (so noone else can reuse it. And if then someone chats to your old nick they receive a notification during this year. Typical convinience + self esteem for money feature, that harms no one). I think by that way all parties - players, buyers, game owners - would benefit.

 

But as said, I do not make the decisions.

Also, to be fair, it is always easy to be more clever afterwards. Please remember that for 2..3 years TankiOnline planned that Tanki X would take over the players - then, in the middle of that process they Unity was locked out from Browsers and the games took a different approach. This means Tanki Online lacked half of the work force.. and those in charge worked on a project that looks like a dead end.. no question that this leads to other decisions as well.

 

So.. however.. you are right. But we are where we are, and while I disagree to quite some of the decisions here, I am not the one in charge to change them. I can assure you that the feedback of the players is heard through the news threads. The game designer reads there; as well as he receives reports with the most frequent complaints.

But please remember that the game designer is an employee, and not the boss in charge. It's not his game.. and if he get's new business targets, it's his job to meet those targets, while trying to keep the pay-to-win factor as low as possible.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

EXPLAIN, WHY IS MATCHMAKING NECESSARY TO KEEP GAME ALIVE?

I have no official answer. But I have a reasoning, which reflects my private opinion - and it makes the move to MM sound logical. So what you read below is my personal opinion:

• Druggers finance the game, and they need a playground. As they are annoyed by mults a system to deflect mults was needed.
• Free players (low to non-druggers) needed means to play vs. those druggers, without being overwhelmed. Matchmaking provides that as the druggers can not anymore chose their team (and gang up so easily).
• As the missions can be accomplished only in MM battles, free players continue to play MM, while they are not overwhelmed with bunches of druggers and take-over raids. So the battles get filled up fast.

So while from this point of view it benefits the buyers (no mults), the free players (less druggers / druggers can me MM'd on the teams as well) and the game owners (drug income continues) - it does come with a price as well:

• less chances to interact with friends (damn critical IMHO)
• players have to play maps they do not like / that do not suit their playing style / equipment
• you have to face druggers if you just like to complete your missions.

The price is high, but it seems they believed in it.

 

 

 

I can not yet tell if it's good or bad on the long run. They've done their home work in advance:

• They provided battle groups to address the friends issue (not quite useful, but better then nothing). Yet a bit small due to waiting time effects and gang ups
• They reworked the MM maps to make them more balanced then before, to make them more enjoyable to different playing styles
• during missions you now face less druggers then before.

But still.. for the players it feels like a step back from the freedom they had before.

(as said, my private opinion; this is no official statement)

 

ps: you asked fro an "explanation", so please do not complain about the word count :P

[Viking4s 10,791]

[...]  it does come with a price as well:

- less chances to interact with friends (damn critical IMHO)

- players have to play maps they do not like / that do not suit their playing style / equipment

- you have to face druggers if you just like to complete your missions.

[...]

It's about the right level of freedom, to enjoy without player abusing it.

 

- the group option do provides the interaction with friends from start to end. No refusal of invitation because they are finishing a battle somewhere else and then they join the opposite team because no room in your team. The group make sure that you are on the same team. Ok, it is not as good as the friend system because more restrictive - but it also nerf another issue - the clan raids, even thought player still complain about playing against "group". You can't have both I guess.

- many player ask for diversity for maps - they is already 24 maps it's a good mix , how can you hate 23 maps? or the chance to get your dreaded map over and over again? With more player this could be improved somehow.

- druggers are everywhere because supplies are provided by trucks and in many ways now - it is not an excuse anymore.

 

No MMS is not required to keep the game alive. It is implemented because this is where TO wants to go as a finished game (and address some of the known issues). Now it is up to them to make it work as good as possible.

For me starting a game from start and have a full team is more interesting than to have - a visit of many players and then just leave for no good reason. Also you work hard to win and then a bunch of people comes in reverse the situation to there favour and takes everything.

 

Saboteur will always be here, MM cannot remove angry people or troll from your team, these are plague in all MMO games.