The removal of gifts issue

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

 

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I'm opening this topic for us to understand and discuss this issue.

 

This is what Nives has said about it when I asked him:

 

Gifts were limited to a 100, to improve server performance.

I think they did that to improve the game's performance, like the friends issue they mentioned as the reason to put limits to the friend system. If this is the case then it has a good aspect.

 

But, was this the right solution?

 

What do you think about it?

Edited June 20, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[Coat 2,280]

What's the storage capacity of tanki servers? 2gb?

[Musa 5,352]

I'm done with this game.

 

Feels like they are trying to make as much money as possible. Nothing else to say.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

What's the storage capacity of tanki servers? 2gb?

I don't think it has to do with storage capacity, but with the amount of file transfers.

[Showbot 819]

I tihnk that this year is the last year of tanki )

[l.Supreme 2,253]

Why cannot nobody realize that Tanki is trying to sell cosmetic items to earn money, instead of turning this game to Pay2Win? Cosmetic items such as paints and skins give you no advantage, it only makes you look special.

 

I think this is much better than selling some actual items that would give buyers some serious unfair advantage.

 

I am dissapointed over the Gift issue, but I have hopes they will fix it.

[CooperO 7,956]

I'll post here what I posted in another topic:

I just want to correct a wrong assumption about the gifts and what is stated in the EULA about them.

 

This rule (8.10.) is not a new addition, the rule has been there since the introduction of gifts to the game. From the start it hasn't been possible to store more than 100 gifts in the garage. However, on the ratings page, gift counts weren't updated according to the count in the garage. Since the XT-skin update, this has been corrected and from that point forward the gifts in players' profiles were synchronized with the ones in the garage. 

 

In other words, as soon as a player had received more than 100 gifts, the oldest ones were automatically removed from the garage. The message in those gifts couldn't be seen anymore and the number in the profile was basically a memory of the received gifts. It's a pity that that memory is now gone too though.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

This is what Nives said...

 

Gifts were limited to a 100, to improve server performance.

[Cashier 90]

For all we're gonna say about it, do you really need to have 100+ gift in your ratings? Tanki Online is a Tank game, a strategy game, not a contest of who is the famous player or who has the best ratings! I think Tanki did a great job on removing some of the gift because, once you've read the message in it, it just makes the game slower, laggy, so in my opinion it's better to remove some of the oldest gifts  ^_^ .

Edited June 19, 2018 by Cashier

[Winters 214]

I'm done with this game.

 

Feels like they are trying to make as much money as possible. Nothing else to say.

I totally agree man, but I don't think that they keep all of the money they make just for themselves. Like most all pc games, the use the earnings on game development. So in a way they are trying to make the most money to keep up wages for employees and for the players.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Did they have to remove blue spheres before badges though? A little bit of thought and care was called for when writing the removal program. Players spent 50-100k each on those things.

 

If they cared, they'd amend it asap. Guess it's staying as it is then.

[Person_Random 4,991]

I have no gifts so I can't relate.

[Wes.Is.Just.A.Digger 1,712]

          I had +600 Teddy Bears and + 1000 badges at my profile page and thousands gifts that were erased from my profile. This is a huge rip off, billion of crystals and real money that players spent to send to me all these 2 years.

          Alternativa Games replied to me that they believe they can find a solution. Until then, I have stopped all purchases on all my accounts, including my Charity and including Players Rewards and anything else I used to buy for friends, etc.

          Tanki is not only pushing away the non buyers, or the low buyers, but is pushing away the heavy buyers now, such as myself.

          Tanki is losing money now only from me with a speed of 400 to 700 Euro EVERY month!

          I understand CooperO's reply, but is not helping (values nothing), not even making a good excuse for the HUGE rip off that tanki just did to me. 

          I will be patiently waiting for apologies from Alternativa Games in their attempt to recover one of the biggest customers (me). 

[Wes.Is.Just.A.Digger 1,712]

L.E. If Alternativa Platform needs hosting space for TO servers , then someone have them contact me and I will gladly sponsor them with many million terrabites monthly. Not a joke.

[Hate 5,582]

This is what Nives said...

 

Gifts were limited to a 100, to improve server performance.

 

Hmm...seems like it is similar to the friend list issue I guess where it lagged a lot and whenever you open it sometimes...it took more than couple minutes to open for some players and they reduced it to 300. 

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

L.E. If Alternativa Platform needs hosting space for TO servers , then someone have them contact me and I will gladly sponsor them with many million terrabites monthly. Not a joke.

I don't think it's an storage issue, but a data traffic issue. Meaning a lot of data goes back and forth and that affects game performance because it causes long loading times. I think things got worse with Matchmaking because every battle has new loadings.

 

But what they did I think was the wrong approach to solve that issue, there could have been better solutions.

[F.I.N.I.S.H.E.R 2,397]

This game will get better. Honestly.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

 It's a pity that that memory is now gone too though.

They'll have backups for a time. Can they be bothered to retrieve and restore the more expensive gifts that players have purchased or have been given. Can they be bothered to re-write the removal program.

 

Tanki will continue to ride roughshod over its players and they'll become more dictatorial the less we complain about controversial decisions. It's every player's right to complain, duty even.

 

At the very least, convert them to batteries or supplies or something!

[burger19987 90]

Dont worry, like other stuff* they will probably make an update where you can buy a bigger gift space or something (maybe like 1000 gifts). It is tanki after all.....

 

* They did this with alterations too, pretty sure there are more examples too.

Edited June 20, 2018 by burger19987

[Wes.Is.Just.A.Digger 1,712]

          I don't really even care much about what and if they will find any solution. The way they did it is simply RUDE.

[jaydevjaydev 343]

          I don't really even care much about what and if they will find any solution. The way they did it is simply RUDE.

I am just asking , don't be angry on ME PLEASE . 

We all agreed to the EULA while joining the game , so how are they wrong? 

Yeah they did not do good by removing gifts but still how are they to be blamed?

[Tani_S 736]

Probably an action in order to stabilize the performance. Anyway it's an huge communication issue towards the players when they just delete them. A clan mate stated, that she lost gifts worth 2 million crystals.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Sometimes we like to buy those unique gifts that appear during celebrations so the reciever can have a variety of gifts in their profiles.

 

The EULA can say anything, it can have bad rules like the one CooperO mentions, but it's devs that decided to make this bad change and hide behind this bad rule that was not used in the past for a good reason.

 

I'm not saying all gifts should stay in the garage even if they cause performance issues, but at least let them stay in profiles.

 

What's the difference to the profiles server if it says 600 of one item as opposed to only 50 of that item?

[Wes.Is.Just.A.Digger 1,712]

I am just asking , don't be angry on ME PLEASE . 

We all agreed to the EULA while joining the game , so how are they wrong? 

Yeah they did not do good by removing gifts but still how are they to be blamed?

 

          I am talking about gifts being removed from the profile page. The last 100 were displayed in garage only before as well, so that is not the problem here. I was hoping that would have been fixed. Players spent crystals to send them to me. I want them back to my profile. I have the feeling that if I start deleting them, the old ones are gone as well. My gifts are part of who I am. If they decided to display profile pages, then let them be and let me (owner) to decide whatever I want to keep or delete.

          You don't get it. I never had any problem against any update and never cried that TO wants more and more money coz this was not a problem for me. But don't touch my feelings by taking away from me the beautiful memories that I have from people, even if only last 100 ones are displayed in my garage, let them all be in my profile. I never been more pissed off with this game than NOW.

          I don't wanna hear any excuse, I don't care about any EULA, I don't wanna hear another useless excuse from staff trying to fix anything, cot it can't be fixed.

          Deeply disgusted by TankiOnline,

Diana

[Hancho 3,902]

People are acting as they read gift messages every single day.  :rolleyes: