New Day New Way to Play: "Buyers", "Druggers" & "Griefers"

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Not many people hate on buyers, because 1) it's their choice of buyer, nobody has asked them for that. 2) Almost every players already bought once, I'd say minimum 85% of the community. 3) Don't forget that without "Buyers", there is absolutely no game. Keep this in mind...

Yes I agree with you. That is why I am suggesting we adopt the jargon many other games use. Griefers are jerks. Buyers are not... sorta thing.

[Potdindy 866]

Drugger: When ppl say this I always tell them to drug back. Especially once you get to Legend and don't need to save crys for upgrading stuff, you can buy all the drugs you need.

 

Buyer: This should be a name of honor, not dishonor. These are the players that allow the others to play for free. If all buyers stopped spending...what would happen to Tanki? 

 

Mult: I've used this word a lot lately, but it seems to have several meanings, only one of which is legitimately an issue. 1: A player who is helping the other team...this one should be crushed but doesn't seem to happen much. 2: A player who's internet stops a lot leaving them in the battle for a while doing nothing. 3: A player who is trying but failing to help his team...Only 1 should be punished.

 

Griefer: Most players in the low levels don't chat at all, so I doubt they are aware of how much a good player can crush them. I didn't, sometimes thinking a k/d of 6/10 was decent

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

It is always possible to cite an extreme or outlier case.  You friend spent weeks or months to set this up? Somehow I do not think TO has seen this repeated hundreds or thousands of times.  Buyers otoh are common.  That is why you do not see chat filled with ppl hating on "those not-playing-savin-up-for-months-Corporal- accounts but you do see ppl hating on "buyers".

because not many people know about this yet ;) even you, with all your knowledgable and resourceful reports knew about it. 

 

but the people who do this are just as devious and even more of a parasite to the game. 

[LittleWillie 3,199]

because not many people know about this yet ;) even you, with all your knowledgable and resourceful reports knew about it. 

 

but the people who do this are just as devious and even more of a parasite to the game. 

Yes I was thinking a bit on what you said. This sort of thing is generally called an "exploit" as in exploiting a loophole. I would have to agree these folks are "Griefers" at heart too.

 

Since it takes so long to set up I doubt it will ever be a widespread problem. But it goes to show why thousands of players always find way around the rules dozens of game developers put in place to stop that sort of thing. One player notices they can stay at Corporeal forever so long as they never shoot at anything and starts collecting boxes. No dev anticipated that I would wager.

 

Drugger: When ppl say this I always tell them to drug back. Especially once you get to Legend and don't need to save crys for upgrading stuff, you can buy all the drugs you need.

 

Buyer: This should be a name of honor, not dishonor. These are the players that allow the others to play for free. If all buyers stopped spending...what would happen to Tanki? 

 

Mult: I've used this word a lot lately, but it seems to have several meanings, only one of which is legitimately an issue. 1: A player who is helping the other team...this one should be crushed but doesn't seem to happen much. 2: A player who's internet stops a lot leaving them in the battle for a while doing nothing. 3: A player who is trying but failing to help his team...Only 1 should be punished.

 

Griefer: Most players in the low levels don't chat at all, so I doubt they are aware of how much a good player can crush them. I didn't, sometimes thinking a k/d of 6/10 was decent

Yes I agree with this. The Drugger thing may have made sense in former times. But now the game has changed some of the vocabulary should reflect that.  Probably will eventually.

 

Yes, "mult" really means definition 1 but as you say it gets applied differently too. When TO talked about mults in MM they meant definition 1. TO can't make a bad player suddenly play well.

 

When I first started playing I just played. I didn't read the rules or the Wiki of the Forum anything hardly at all. I knew somthing called Clans existed so for the 1st month or so I assumed the only game I could play was DM. Only clans could play team modes.  Then one day I thought, well click it and try.  OMG! Another two weeks just a blur trying new maps and modes.  Only then did I become aware of the rating thing.  I had a k/d of 0.7 or maybe a bit below. With over 200 deaths to make up I thought at the time it'd be great if somehow one day I would rise to a k/d of 1.0. :)

 

Actually the average k/d is not 1.0 as some might guess.  Every time a tank scores a kill another tak gets a death and the universal k/d is 1.0.  But hen a tank self-destructs it takes a death and no one else gets a kill credit. So the universal k/d is pushed below 1.0. 

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

I am not justifying the Supplies rules. I am making the outlandish claim that the Supplies system exists as part of TO.  When I play a game, I expect the other player to play the game by that game's rules.  You, I guess, feel other players ar beholden to your opinions on what the rules should be durnit.

 

Making posts like your or calling people "duggers" iin chat is an effort to deride the players who outlandishly play the actual game by the actual rules. This trikes me as absurd. But we all follow our own muse.

 

 

 

There's nothing outlandish about that claim, it's obvious and unfortunate. I already addressed my issues with that claim in my previous post. You clearly aren't very good at reading comprehension. 

 

I could also make the claim that you have here--it's your opinion that supplies are an integral part of Tanki and should thus be used to their fullest, correct? It appears that you fall victim to the same fallacy you try to accuse me of, having every player perform according to some vision and not according to what they would like to see in the game. Many players would love to see the supply system revamped, myself included, but shills like you would rather just tell them to suck it up. 

 

"It's part of the game guys!!!!! It can't be a bad thing if it's in the game!!!1111!! You're not playing it right if you don't want to use supplies!!!!1111!!!11" 

 

Piss off, shill. 

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Some players just want attention, recognition, and when they talk down others is so they can feel better themselves. That's the whole point of this, like we don't know a thing.

Edited July 1, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[LittleWillie 3,199]

There's nothing outlandish about that claim, it's obvious and unfortunate. I already addressed my issues with that claim in my previous post. You clearly aren't very good at reading comprehension. 

 

I could also make the claim that you have here--it's your opinion that supplies are an integral part of Tanki and should thus be used to their fullest, correct? It appears that you fall victim to the same fallacy you try to accuse me of, having every player perform according to some vision and not according to what they would like to see in the game. Many players would love to see the supply system revamped, myself included, but shills like you would rather just tell them to suck it up. 

 

"It's part of the game guys!!!!! It can't be a bad thing if it's in the game!!!1111!! You're not playing it right if you don't want to use supplies!!!!1111!!!11" 

 

Piss off, shill. 

You clearly do not see where I am coming form in this thread. I have ll aosrts of old com,m,ent about changing the Supplies/ But after 10 years of them not changing some players figure what the hell ... I am going to throw caution to the wind. I shall discuss the game as though Supplies exist.

 

So I will make it simple for you. 

 

I do not go around the game worrying about if so-and-so is a  [Ominous Music] Drugger. The reason is as you observer: I am of the opinion the game Tanki Online included things called Supplies.  I am of the opinion most players will decide they will make use of that part of the game. I am of the opinion players will make use of the things called Protection Modules. I see no reason to call players [Ominous Music]  Druggers or to call them  [Ominous Music] Modulers.

 

I am suggesting what I thought was a pretty simple topic for conversation  - hey what do you say we just drop the Druggers thing?

 

But if you want to run around that game making lists of who you think is a [Ominous Music] Drugger then by all means have at it.

 

PS: I guess the logic here is if enough players go around calling enough other players Druggers then at some point TO devs will be convinced to create an entire new system.

 

Some players just want attention, recognition, and when they talk down others is so they can feel better themselves. That's the whole point of this, like we don't know a thing.

Oy vey.

Edited July 2, 2018 by LittleWillie

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

And who is calling others "druggers" or "buyers" here?

[LittleWillie 3,199]

And who is calling others "druggers" or "buyers" here?

You have not heard these terms used in the game? 

 

Again, oy vey.  

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

You have not heard these terms used in the game? 

 

Again, oy vey.  

I said here, learn to read.

 

Maybe you need to take your message to the Chat, preach to the little kids.

Edited July 2, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

You clearly do not see where I am coming form in this thread. I have ll aosrts of old com,m,ent about changing the Supplies/ But after 10 years of them not changing some players figure what the hell ... I am going to throw caution to the wind. I shall discuss the game as though Supplies exist.

 

So I will make it simple for you. 

 

I do not go around the game worrying about if so-and-so is a  [Ominous Music] Drugger. The reason is as you observer: I am of the opinion the game Tanki Online included things called Supplies.  I am of the opinion most players will decide they will make use of that part of the game. I am of the opinion players will make use of the things called Protection Modules. I see no reason to call players [Ominous Music]  Druggers or to call them  [Ominous Music] Modulers.

 

I am suggesting what I thought was a pretty simple topic for conversation  - hey what do you say we just drop the Druggers thing?

 

But if you want to run around that game making lists of who you think is a [Ominous Music] Drugger then by all means have at it.

 

PS: I guess the logic here is if enough players go around calling enough other players Druggers then at some point TO devs will be convinced to create an entire new system.

 

Oy vey.

You must think you're really clever or funny. You're not. It's apparent you aren't reading anything I'm typing, and it seems you don't even care enough to proofread your own posts. I guess it's quantity over quality when it comes to shilling as hard as you do. 

 

All you've done is reinforce what I said above; you don't care if people hate the horrible supplies system in this game, as you've essentially told me to suck it up in an obnoxiously condescending tone. I know that supplies exist in the game. I understand you're trying to be witty by making it appear shocking, but as I have already pointed out on numerous occasions, I KNOW THEY EXIST. Get that through your dense little head. What I've been saying is that they exist, they suck, and players like you will only tell me to put up with a system that I think ruins the game. And of course Tanki's not gonna change the system, as those who can't perform well without their tanks being twice as strong are more likely willing to give Tanki their cash. The term "drugger" simply exists to shun those who can't play effectively without overpowered supplies at their disposal. Nothing more, nothing less. It will exist as long as the supplies themselves do...as it rightfully should. 

 

Oy gevalt... 

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

You must think you're really clever or funny. You're not. It's apparent you aren't reading anything I'm typing, and it seems you don't even care enough to proofread your own posts. I guess it's quantity over quality when it comes to shilling as hard as you do. 

 

All you've done is reinforce what I said above; you don't care if people hate the horrible supplies system in this game, as you've essentially told me to suck it up in an obnoxiously condescending tone. I know that supplies exist in the game. I understand you're trying to be witty by making it appear shocking, but as I have already pointed out on numerous occasions, I KNOW THEY EXIST. Get that through your dense little head. What I've been saying is that they exist, they suck, and players like you will only tell me to put up with a system that I think ruins the game. And of course Tanki's not gonna change the system, as those who can't perform well without their tanks being twice as strong are more likely willing to give Tanki their cash. The term "drugger" simply exists to shun those who can't play effectively without overpowered supplies at their disposal. Nothing more, nothing less. It will exist as long as the supplies themselves do...as it rightfully should. 

 

Oy gevalt... 

Don't waste your time dude. ;)

Edited July 2, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[KILL_BILL_CHAUHAN 2,505]

because I am the only f2p player left in this game that's above Major :(

 

I am still here  B)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I said here, learn to read.

 

Maybe you need to take your message to the Chat, preach to the little kids.

Yes I know you said "here" my point is that is not what this thread is about, fool.  So you bringing that up has nothing to do with me.

 

Fool, this thread is about the jargon used in the entire TO player base. I simply think the term "druggers" is well-past obsolete.  Now either you agree with this or you don't.  But that is what this thread is about.

 

Get it now, fool?

You must think you're really clever or funny. You're not. It's apparent you aren't reading anything I'm typing, and it seems you don't even care enough to proofread your own posts. I guess it's quantity over quality when it comes to shilling as hard as you do. 

 

All you've done is reinforce what I said above; you don't care if people hate the horrible supplies system in this game, as you've essentially told me to suck it up in an obnoxiously condescending tone. I know that supplies exist in the game. I understand you're trying to be witty by making it appear shocking, but as I have already pointed out on numerous occasions, I KNOW THEY EXIST. Get that through your dense little head. What I've been saying is that they exist, they suck, and players like you will only tell me to put up with a system that I think ruins the game. And of course Tanki's not gonna change the system, as those who can't perform well without their tanks being twice as strong are more likely willing to give Tanki their cash. The term "drugger" simply exists to shun those who can't play effectively without overpowered supplies at their disposal. Nothing more, nothing less. It will exist as long as the supplies themselves do...as it rightfully should. 

 

Oy gevalt... 

 

This thread does not exist to discuss the Supplies system is it good or bad.

 

There are otehr threads to do that.  

Edited July 15, 2018 by Viking4s
Kindly avoid provocation

[Hancho 3,902]

The only stuff I bought on Tankionline are containers and bundles, that is all. The fact that people see me with synesthesia paint and maxed out protection against their turret rolling out begin to kind of insult me, calling me names because I spent $$$ on a game and to have 5% advantage over somebody (like LilWillie mentioned in one of this comments on this thread) but they do have the same advantage, they can also play and upgrade their protection, right? It does not make me a god because I've got higher protection percentage, it's just I got it first before the person could upgrade it first. Second thing, seeing somebody with a fancy paint such as Synesthesia (no doubt) also does not make you a god, the person has no advantage what so ever with this kind of paint. The only thing the person could attract are players who might think they have a lot of gold to drop or a famous player. 

 

Buying is a choice and people should respect that. I've had many people saying abusive comments just because I buy. They think it is unfair because I might be stronger over them. Everything is fair, Tankionline gave you the same choice as me, to buy. You might not have money, which is completely fine but people with money who is willing to spend for it's own fun should just leave them to buy. 

Did I just go off-topic? :ph34r:  :wacko:

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Yes I know you said "here" my point is that is not what this thread is about, fool. So you bringing that up has nothing to do with me.

 

Fool, this thread is about the jargon used in the entire TO player base. I simply think the term "druggers" is well-past obsolete. Now either you agree with this or you don't. But that is what this thread is about.

 

Get it now, fool?

The title says "New day new way to play...", now you say it's about the game jargon. Make up your mind, and relax, the forum is to have discussions not to insult each other.

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

 

This thread does not exist to discuss the Supplies system is it good or bad.

 

There are otehr threads to do that.  

 

Many people think supplies suck. I gave you reasons as to why this is. Thus, there is backlash against players who are dependent on them, and terms like "drugger" exist.

 

Do you follow me so far? Don't strain yourself, now.

 

Now, what you're telling me is that supplies are an integral part of the game, and should be used to their fullest. Anyone who doesn't like or use them is an "emo" whiner (is this 2005?), apparently.

 

And yet, you don't get that if people didn't like supples in the past, they certainly won't like them now as they become an even bigger influence on the game thanks to mechanics like drones and overdrives. Naturally, terms like "drugger" will persist, especially if they're going to be forced on unwilling users who would rather play without them. After all, not many options exist for those players, and there's going to tension if they are constantly told to "suck it up" by obnoxious shills like you. Telling these players the obvious statement that supplies exist is going to accomplish nothing positive.

 

Now, I understand. Words are hard. But it's OK, I'll be patient. I'll repeat this as many times as I need to if that's what it takes to drive a point through your dense little skull.

Edited July 15, 2018 by Viking4s
avoid provocation

[TheLinguist 3]

I'm just gonna leave this here for someone to see my thoughts:

 

 

I adapted to something I didn't like in this game using these "drugs" everytime I play. An tbh unless you want to wait a few years playing the game every day without buying to get m3 everything just sounds absurd to me. every game you get maybe 160 crystals but need like 6-7k to upgrade at the most (don't know the exact off the top of my head) 

 

I remember when the there was no upgrades either than m1,m2,m3, weapons had no damage ranging (exp. 100-1000), earning crystals was easier and the f2p player could afford to get m3 within a certain time period less than a year.

 

I did see glitches, or hacks etc. that needed attention (today you definitely see more, and rage reports) these were the only things I really thought needed to be fixed 

 

the things they added weren't needed because matchmaking sucks now, buyers are more numerous (good for company bad for f2p, yes we need them for the game to survive however there's still a speed gap an a big one), the definition of drugger is a reality, favorite maps changed or disappeared, weapons don't work the same anymore an have different bonuses (some kinda stayed the same like thunder, railgun, shaft (I want to say freeze, but it got buffed), an depending on your computer connections poor (frames/ping and which may have already been this way since 2010) 

 

(original account: Megatanker554 + I cannot access it ^_^ :ph34r:)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

The title says "New day new way to play...", now you say it's about the game jargon. Make up your mind, and relax, the forum is to have discussions not to insult each other.

New DAy New Way to Play is a "brand name" I am using.  It is the 2nd thread to use that tile.  It it Rhetoric to mean the rules have changes let's discuss teh new situation.

 

Obviously this topic of THIS thread is, in point of fact, jargon. But there's no ignorance like willful ignorance.

 

Once again I see no reason to go around calling other players "Drugers". I did not think this would be a controversy.

 

For those that do defend tis practive answer me one question:  What is the ____ point?  What does this accomplish besides nothing?

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Several posts later and you still miss the point. I'm convinced you're mentally challenged, so I'll see if I can really sharpen this up to satisfy your special needs.

 

Many people think supplies suck. I gave you reasons as to why this is. Thus, there is backlash against players who are dependent on them, and terms like "drugger" exist.

 

Do you follow me so far? Don't strain yourself, now.

 

Now, what you're telling me is that supplies are an integral part of the game, and should be used to their fullest. Anyone who doesn't like or use them is an "emo" whiner (is this 2005?), apparently.

 

And yet, you don't get that if people didn't like supples in the past, they certainly won't like them now as they become an even bigger influence on the game thanks to mechanics like drones and overdrives. Naturally, terms like "drugger" will persist, especially if they're going to be forced on unwilling users who would rather play without them. After all, not many options exist for those players, and there's going to tension if they are constantly told to "suck it up" by obnoxious shills like you. Telling these players the obvious statement that supplies exist is going to accomplish nothing positive.

 

Now, I understand. Words are hard. But it's OK, I'll be patient. I'll repeat this as many times as I need to if that's what it takes to drive a point through your dense little skull.

You and others hate TI;s rules with a passion yet you keep playing TO. And you find my thinking challenged.

 

LOL.

 

Now sod off.  As I said before thre already is a thread for "I Hate Drugs" That is not this thready.  What you are doing is called "hijacking". So discuss this topic. of just sod off.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

New DAy New Way to Play is a "brand name" I am using.  It is the 2nd thread to use that tile.  It it Rhetoric to mean the rules have changes let's discuss teh new situation.

 

Obviously this topic of THIS thread is, in point of fact, jargon. But there's no ignorance like willful ignorance.

 

Once again I see no reason to go around calling other players "Drugers". I did not think this would be a controversy.

 

For those that do defend tis practive answer me one question:  What is the ____ point?  What does this accomplish besides nothing?

Well, you don't seem open to discussions. You've made up your mind and everything is either black or white.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Well, you don't seem open to discussions. You've made up your mind and everything is either black or white.

No this thread is just not got hijackers like you.  Sod off from my threads.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

No this thread is just not got hijackers like you.  Sod off from my threads.

I see, if someone doesn't agree with you or accept what you say is a hijacker. But how can I agree that a buyer is not a buyer...

[pringerfinger 934]

Wow never realized how far away the term drugger is xD.

 

Yeah I joined about 4 years back, ever since all this new stuff has been implemented there has been less complaining about druggers.

 

I don't even care about them anymore. Even back then I was able to obtain enough supplies to compete with these so called "buyer/druggers".  Back then you had to be smart with your crystals in order to compete....

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Wow never realized how far away the term drugger is xD.

 

Yeah I joined about 4 years back, ever since all this new stuff has been implemented there has been less complaining about druggers.

 

I don't even care about them anymore. Even back then I was able to obtain enough supplies to compete with these so called "buyer/druggers".  Back then you had to be smart with your crystals in order to compete....

Yeah this is what I mean.  It just seem to me that term was always a bit silly. But I understood the frustration then because non-buyers did not obtain many Supplies through missions back then.  Back then there was a dramatic difference between Buyers and free players when it came to Supplies stockpiles  But that was corrected almost 18 months ago.  Today the term just seems obsolete to me.

 

This does not sound like a controversial topic. But you never know what will be tasty to the trolls..