New Day New Way to Play: "Buyers", "Druggers" & "Griefers"

[esteban_is_nuts 1]

I hate when people say that. they just jealous cause they cant get the goods XD

[pringerfinger 934]

Yeah this is what I mean.  It just seem to me that term was always a bit silly. But I understood the frustration then because non-buyers did not obtain many Supplies through missions back then.  Back then there was a dramatic difference between Buyers and free players when it came to Supplies stockpiles  But that was corrected almost 18 months ago.  Today the term just seems obsolete to me.

 

This does not sound like a controversial topic. But you never know what will be tasty to the trolls..

Yet with smart playing I gained 500+ of each supply without buying back then. But now it is easier to obtain supplies. Problem back then was no one was completing their mission chains. But now that the chains have change more people are making an effort to complete them.

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

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If the only thing you got from my post is "I hate drugs" then once again it appears you have missed my point entirely. I don't know why I expected any other result, though. 

 

Let me see if you can follow this. It's one full sentence, and I know that pushes your limits, but try your best to get the point: 

 

Ready? Here we go...

 

Many players hate drugs, these players have no good alternative and must face other players who use them on a constant basis, and therefore resentment towards drug using players exists. 

 

Or, even simpler:

 

Players who don't like supplies hate how supplies are forced onto them; therefore, a stigma exists around supplies.

 

Now, I'm expecting that you'll just spin that into "I hate drugs", screech, and tell me to "sod off" again, but it's okay. Progress does not come immediately, and as I said before, I'll repeat this for your tiny little mind as many times as necessary so that you too may come to understand this simple circumstance. 

Edited July 15, 2018 by Viking4s
Please don't change the content of the quote.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

The only stuff I bought on Tankionline are containers and bundles, that is all. The fact that people see me with synesthesia paint and maxed out protection against their turret rolling out begin to kind of insult me, calling me names because I spent $$$ on a game and to have 5% advantage over somebody (like LilWillie mentioned in one of this comments on this thread) but they do have the same advantage, they can also play and upgrade their protection, right? It does not make me a god because I've got higher protection percentage, it's just I got it first before the person could upgrade it first. Second thing, seeing somebody with a fancy paint such as Synesthesia (no doubt) also does not make you a god, the person has no advantage what so ever with this kind of paint. The only thing the person could attract are players who might think they have a lot of gold to drop or a famous player.

 

Buying is a choice and people should respect that. I've had many people saying abusive comments just because I buy. They think it is unfair because I might be stronger over them. Everything is fair, Tankionline gave you the same choice as me, to buy. You might not have money, which is completely fine but people with money who is willing to spend for it's own fun should just leave them to buy.

Did I just go off-topic? :ph34r: :wacko:

Yeah, the buyers have earned that money because they worked hard for it, and spending it in the game is a choice that they make, plus buyers are financially supporting the game so that the free players who most of which are 6 year old kids that play 24/7 and whine and complain about druggers and buyers can actually play the game for that long. Edited July 14, 2018 by DieselPlatinum

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Why did I check both of your profiles?

[GorgoBlesk 831]

Why did I check both of your profiles?

To look how much drugs they used. I also used some (my k/d was really horrible when I was a noob) but I learned to play Titan Shaft so I do not need drugs now. I now use only RK when I am sure no enemy can hit me and SB when gold box falls (that M1 Titan is kinda slow). If drugs were removed, I would be so happy...

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Drugger = @ByeByeBye

 

not the player , the name

 

can you please explain the griefer more ?

i am not sure i understand it clearly

 

Is it the OP guy who ruin the battle ?

or the kind we call mult/Sabeoutor ?

Wow...I feel so famous :)   I think you meant BuyBuyBuy, right?

[Potdindy 866]

If drugs were removed, I would be so happy...

If drugs were removed, every CTF battle would end maybe 1-0 or 0-0. Flags are capped when a fast hull runs in with DA and can use a RK to survive. Without that every flag carrier would die the moment he grabbed the flag. Games would go until 1 team began spawn killing the other and they forcibly take the flag

[LittleWillie 3,199]

If drugs were removed, every CTF battle would end maybe 1-0 or 0-0. Flags are capped when a fast hull runs in with DA and can use a RK to survive. Without that every flag carrier would die the moment he grabbed the flag. Games would go until 1 team began spawn killing the other and they forcibly take the flag

This is true. The Supplies system has many critics. But it is their 2x power that weaker tanks to occasionally turn the table on stronger takes.. They add considerable chaos and unpredictability to battle flow.  Drug free games are interesting and tactical but they are also lower scoring and slower.  A good team that sets up a proper defense might take all game to root out of their bunker.

Edited July 16, 2018 by LittleWillie

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

I wish we didn't have to use drugs, Tanki was much more fun without timing the constant punching of number keys.  But in this new environment, there is no choice if you want to be competitive.  Sadly, gross supply usage an integral part of the game now, just like the lame matchmaking system.  I sure don't like it, but there isn't any choice.

 

Previously "drugger" had the connotation that that person was not very good at the game.  Now, since everyone has lots of drugs from daily missions, weekly mission rewards, and especially containers, "drugger" means nothing to me anymore.  In fact, I'm kinda flattered if someone calls me a drugger...I figure I am really doing well to make someone that angry...same thing with "noob","buyer", or the very best, "hacker".  If I have the time, I always try to thank the name caller for the compliment.

 

That being said, there are still some players that might fall into the "drugger" category.  Unless you are a buyer it's pretty hard to hit a repair kit every chance you have after the cooldown period.  Those guys are darn hard to beat and usually take the top slot in a game.  But again, they are keeping the game alive with their cash, so I don't begrudge them their slaughter and mayhem.

 

This is from the current meme contest by  AbsoluteZero  ...it applies to me and my repair kits:

 

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=374532&page=15&do=findComment&comment=6562794

 

 

 

Edited July 16, 2018 by ByeByeBye

[GorgoBlesk 831]

This is true. The Supplies system has many critics. But it is their 2x power that weaker tanks to occasionally turn the table on stronger takes.. They add considerable chaos and unpredictability to battle flow. Drug free games are interesting and tactical but they are also lower scoring and slower. A good team that sets up a proper defense might take all game to root out of their bunker.

It is bad because when I attack with my Hunter Ricochet, everyone equips DA and DD and I have a chance to kill them only if they are badly damaged or my ally shoots them or heals me. That is the reason why I use Titan Shaft. Enemies are either not aware of it at long range or they ignore/underestimate it at close and medium range.

[gokuMI6 1,290]

Wow...I feel so famous :)   I think you meant BuyBuyBuy, right?

Hh

no i mean the term Drugger , to bye

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Many players hate drugs, these players have no good alternative and must face other players who use them on a constant basis, and therefore resentment towards drug using players exists. 

 

Or, even simpler:

 

Players who don't like supplies hate how supplies are forced onto them; therefore, a stigma exists around supplies.

This is a fancy way of saying "I hate drugs."

 

You may hate drugs as a mechanic. I dislike them too. But they are easily obtainable for all players. So using the term "drugger" is somewhat strange given that basically everyone has easy access to supplies now.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

This is a fancy way of saying "I hate drugs."

 

You may hate drugs as a mechanic. I dislike them too. But they are easily obtainable for all players. So using the term "drugger" is somewhat strange given that basically everyone has easy access to supplies now.

If they are "easily obtainable" is another topic, casual players probably still have few, they'll get more and more when they progress their mission chains of course, but let's not assume that everyone is a no-life missioner that only play for missions like some of us.

 

The thing is that some use it constantly, non stop, and they like to spawn kill, that's why the term "drugger" and the resentment. They can do that of course, it's allowed, but they are druggers.

 

I am a drugger too, not a heavy drugger, I use them when needed, mostly to counter heavy druggers, when I encounter non drugged tanks I usually don't drug. When my team is doing well I use fewer drugs, sometimes I don't even use or share Overdrives. And let me clarify, for the assuming people, I'm not saying everyone should play like me either.

 

It is what it is.

Edited July 17, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[wolverine848 13,097]

largest issue is Overdrive.

 

Because actions like killing (by using DD) speed up OD, team to use more supplies (sooner) gets OD sooner.

Then they enhance team-mates who then build up their OD faster.

That's when the spawn-killing starts, and losing team then has no chance to build up OD as they are just dying.

 

Current OD is one of the worst additions to TO.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

largest issue is Overdrive.

 

Because actions like killing (by using DD) speed up OD, team to use more supplies (sooner) gets OD sooner.

Then they enhance team-mates who then build up their OD faster.

That's when the spawn-killing starts, and losing team then has no chance to build up OD as they are just dying.

 

Current OD is one of the worst additions to TO.

It goes that way of course. But I have also seen a different dynamic in many battle.  Team A surges ahead. They get team B on thei eels and it looks like another blowout is nearing.  But Team B recovers it poise after a minute or two.  Shortly later it is Team B who has team A in the ropes.  Team B evens the score. The end game is a scramble.  (Of course a ode like CP is easier to see come-back wins than some other modes.)

 

My thought is Team A had a surge of ODs get used and they take the initiative.  But at some point it is team B that sees a bunch of OD used in a short time. That throws the initiative in reverse.

 

Te bottom line is OD use is very important to team play.  I cannot count the number of game I've lost on a team that plays OK except you see 5 or 6 starts lit up over your teammates all game long.  Even with 30 seconds left they are "saving" it. Players have learned to use ODs but an incredible portion of TO players have not.

 

If I could pick one to remove, Gold Boxes or ODS, I'd kill the Gold Boxes.  THose things cause more poor game play than anything else in the game.  When both teams play well they both use their ODs well and the OD effect cancels out.  But put a bunch of Gold Box Buffoons one one team and it is T-O-A-S-T.

 

Maybe we should run aronnd the game taunting "Golder!". LOL. It's be just as productive.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

If drugs were removed, every CTF battle would end maybe 1-0 or 0-0. Flags are capped when a fast hull runs in with DA and can use a RK to survive. Without that every flag carrier would die the moment he grabbed the flag. Games would go until 1 team began spawn killing the other and they forcibly take the flag

if drugs were removed battles would be just like what they are in no drug pro battles... completely NOT what you described

 

This is a fancy way of saying "I hate drugs."

 

You may hate drugs as a mechanic. I dislike them too. But they are easily obtainable for all players. So using the term "drugger" is somewhat strange given that basically everyone has easy access to supplies now.

having access to them is not the same as wanting to use them.

 

who cares if i have access to them or not. I just want to complete my missions, but there's some druggers in the battle that just have to activate drugs to kill me even though they can tell i'm not interested in that rubbish.

[badmonkey69 12]

You can sum all this garbage up in one sentence:  Tanki is dying because it no longer requires skill and the developers are just milking the last dollar out of it. 

 

I mean who really spends money on a game running 4 year old Adobe Flash where lag is an actual advantage and hack in game play..........

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Hh

no i mean the term Drugger , to bye

May I point out that in English "bye" is a shortened version of goodbye and becomes idiomatic....as in "bye-bye see you later".  When you purchase something you "buy" it...buy means to purchase, as in "buyer...one who purchases  These two words are called homonyms...they sound exactly the same but have two completely different meanings.   Sadly there are many of these in English and tend to be confusing for people trying learning English.  But keep it up and you will keep getting better and better the more you practice.

 

 

...always learning...just gotta watch those typos :)  It should be "trying to learn" or just "learning" of course! 

 

...stones and glass houses...perfect ;)

Edited July 20, 2018 by ByeByeBye

[CortoMaltese 23]

Whatever you say comrade language police.Oh,you are still a drugger though.

[badmonkey69 12]

Sadly there are many of these in English and tend to be confusing for people trying learning English.  But keep it up and you will keep getting better and better the more you practice.

Stones and glass houses :)  

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Whatever you say comrade language police.Oh,you are still a drugger though.

By comparison to you, I am in fact a drugger.  Why do you not use the drugs you get?  It's kinda cool that you do so well without drugs, but, for me, I figure I might as well use them rather than let them just keep piling up.  I still have ten times as many supplies in my garage as I have used overall...I never used them much before the triple weekly rewards and the boat load of supplies in containers.

 

As far as gokuMI6, I am still trying to figure out what he actually meant.  If you go back and read, he originally seemed to indicate that he was using my name like BuyBuyBuy.  Here is a quote from him in a subsequent post: "Hh    no i mean the term Drugger , to bye"  to bye...I think he means, to buy...as in druggers are buyers.  I just kinda guessed English was not his first language since he seems to keep making the same mistake with buy/bye. I don't think he ever called me a drugger like you did.  (And I wear the title from you because you are very far from a drugger...perplexingly so.)  I don't think it would be possible for him to actually call me a drugger since he tends to use more drugs than I do. :)

 

And...to be clear...I would be much happier playing Tanki if there were no drugs at all.  I dislike the constant fussing with 4-2-3-5, but it is part of the game now.

Edited July 20, 2018 by ByeByeBye

[gokuMI6 1,290]

May I point out that in English "bye" is a shortened version of goodbye and becomes idiomatic....as in "bye-bye see you later".  When you purchase something you "buy" it...buy means to purchase, as in "buyer...one who purchases  These two words are called homonyms...they sound exactly the same but have two completely different meanings.   Sadly there are many of these in English and tend to be confusing for people trying learning English.  But keep it up and you will keep getting better and better the more you practice.

Oh sry

i meant people calling druggers everyone to bye

so to indicate that why not use your name

sry about that

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Oh sry

i meant people calling druggers everyone to bye

so to indicate that why not use your name

sry about that

It's OK. :)  Thank you for saying that. ;)

[Benefactor 6,888]

I don't do drugs. I use supplies from time to time when I need that little edge.