Isida

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

I wont be using Isida as much as I do, at the moment so I'll be sharing everything that I learned with this gun. May the next generation of Isida' be helpful to all of us, including me.

Isida				Base	M1		M2		M3
Price:				300     +700    +1800   +4500
Turn speed:			1.3		1.45	1.7		2.1
Damage per sec:		12		14		18		24 — adds 50% of enemy health
Heal per sec:		12		14		18		24 — gives in 1.5 times more scores, than damage
consumption (sec):  5	    5       5	    5
Reload (sec):	    20      17,86   12,5   10
Range:				15 m

 

Pros

• DPS at M3 equal to that of M3 Firebird but with a life stealing ability thus making an M3 Firebird only deal 12 DPS. (50% life steal)

• Ability to heal allies.

• Free experience without even killing anyone.

• Easy to use.

• With respect to the usefulness, its really cheap.

• You can not Friendly Fire.

 

Cons

• You can only aim at the turret of the target.

• Range Disadvantage.

 

Tips and Tricks.

• You can just sit in base and heal the campers, no matter what your friends say about you. Even if you heal an M0 hornet, you are helping the team. If you say why? Then here's the deal. You heal an M0 hornet to full HP. An Enemy Railgun shoots for him and does a 1 hit KO. Technically, You made that Railgun shoot and by the way, Railguns take a lot of time to reload thus enabling the rest of your team to at least get a single shot off of him. Most people will disagree with me on this one, but the Thunder players and some other Railguns which I know really like people who can make those Railguns come out of cover.
  

• Be sure yo use those nano-bots at all times, a good Isida player rarely lets his weapon to get fully charged. Just remember that in a head on fight between two Isida' the best one will always be the one who can use every single second of his charge.
  

• Know your advantage, You can make that M3 Freeze look like a noob or a pro. Its all in your hands. if the Freeze only attacks you and you are attacking him at the same time, his damage will be reduced to 20 DPS for seconds, use this advantage for the "team" and make sure that whenever you charge a Freeze, he only attacks you and no one else. Buy that time, 5 seconds are a great deal once you think about it.
  

• Know your limits, You cant take down anything with over 120 HP! That includes those Dictators with 5% Isida protection as well. Other than that, Whenever you see any M3 Dictator with Prodigi, go for him. He'll be crying out loud because Prodigi doesn't protect against Isida.
  

• When battling a Railgun, let it shoot you first. That way you'll be able to get that HP back and get out of there with Full HP.
  

• You remember that you can only attack the Turret, right? Well Here's something You can attack the Turret in any direction no matter it be above you or below you, as long as its in 15 meters and you aim for the turret you'll be able to attack it. However its easier said, then done. Only the Professional Isida players use this. Same goes for healing as well, You can heal those campers on top without even bothering them.
  

• Always try to heal the one getting targeted, It wont make any difference in a fight if you are healing an M3 mammoth who's not even getting targeted.
  

• Know who you can out-damage, A perfect example would be an M3 Twins or an M3 Firebird.
  

• Keep out of reach as long as you can, let the enemy come for you.
  

• Use the camera controls to know where the enemy is coming from.
  

• Always attack the people who are not drugging, they'll give you the most Health.
  

• When you have only one flag remaining for victory, and its hard to get. Never EVER be afraid to drug for it, You're an Isida, you are a Vampire, you are the only tank in the team that can eat through the entire enemy team and run out with full health.
  

• Those drug addicts in your team need you! They are nothing without you! So get your tanks up there and heal them!
  

• You don't always have to be at the back and heal the tanks, take control and get some kills to get yourself a better rating as well
  

By eessydo

1. Don't heal lower level weapons when you have a choice. That M3 Rico is going to do more damage over an extended period of life than that M1 freeze.

2. Don't crawl up the back of the people you are healing. This means, if the person you are healing can not move backwards without running into you, you are in the wrong place. You have a 20 meter range, use it.

3. Don't waste time healing units on their backs. Yeah you get some points, but if the other team wins you get ZERO crystals.

4. Don't put yourself in the direct line of fire. Always move behind another unit to minimize your damage and maximize your teams killing power especially weapons that can go "through" other targets (ie firebird / freeze).

5. Don't think that you are as strong as you were before the advent of Tier 2 weapons, even with drugs. You get your points healing and helping, not grabbing flags on your own in even battles.

 

By cablaz

When you come face to face with another Isida that's same level as you this will work best, if you know it has full HP wait 2 seconds before attacking him back that way he heals no damage from sucking your HP while you lost about 48 health, Now attack back, You'll heal back while the enemy already lost 2 seconds and the self heal effect does nothing and after he runs out of charge you should still have 3 seconds left and 3 seconds = 72 Dmg which should be able to kill him.

 

Separate a Doctor from his Patient and the Patient dies much faster, Separate a Patient from the Doctor and the Doctor lives on.

 

To all those people who don't play Isida, Feel free to share your Experiences with other Isida' and kindly give a nice little "thanks" After you get healed. And for those who don't know, спс is short for Спасибо. Which means Thank you. So you can just type that in, and let everyone know that you need a good sport. :wink:

[r_blackhawk5550 5]

Nice, i like it. Should of had it long time ago though. But still good for Newbie ranks :D They will be greater Battles if they like Isida Enough.

[cablaz 32]

<---- Example of pro isida player

 

i have an trick i use against other isida's when they have more HP than you but u still end up killing them

 

when u come face to face with another isida same level as yours will be best, if you know it has full HP wait 2 seconds before attacking him back that way he heals no damage from sucking your hp while you lost about 48 dmg u heal back while the enemy already lost 2 seconds and the self heal effect does nothing and after he runs out you should still have 3 seconds left and 3 seconds = 72 Dmg which should be able to kill him. :)

[r_gamepiong0 10]

Love this thread thanks for the useful information Kooly :)

Now I can test these out with my isdia when I get bored~

[NoblePlatOne 19]

Sorry, koolwalky, have to disagree with your assessment of a battle against M3 Freeze. Your M3 Isida will lose unless the Freeze is near death to begin with. Any Freeze will wisely stay out of your range, while completely destroying you. There is very little you can do about it. If you want to prove me wrong (and please do), make a video of you battling another pro M3 Freeze. There is a reason why you are switching to a Freeze....Isida cannot compete. Now, I am not saying that an Isida should be able to compete with an M3 Freeze. After all, how can it when the Freeze is so over-powered and out-of-balance with the other weapons. Makes you wonder what havoc future weapons will bring to the game.

[Goldeneagle 9]

Sorry' date=' koolwalky, have to disagree with your assessment of a battle against M3 Freeze. Your M3 Isida will lose unless the Freeze is near death to begin with. Any Freeze will wisely stay out of your range, while completely destroying you. There is very little you can do about it. If you want to prove me wrong (and please do), make a video of you battling another pro M3 Freeze. There is a reason why you are switching to a Freeze....Isida cannot compete. Now, I am not saying that an Isida [b']should[/b] be able to compete with an M3 Freeze. After all, how can it when the Freeze is so over-powered and out-of-balance with the other weapons. Makes you wonder what havoc future weapons will bring to the game.

M3 isida wins over M3 freeze. Tested this out in test server.

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

Nice job.

Personally, I don't like Isida :)

[GO_IRELAND 0]

nice kool

as an isida user thanks for those tips,

i love taking down people with prodigi, quite easily cause of there no protection.

about all those people who say m3 freeze is way better then m3 isida, in a duel yes the isida will lose, but a lot of maps dont have space for a freeze to retreat into, as a hornet, when fighting other m3 freezes using hornet, i destroy them over 50% of the time. I agree that overall the freeze will destroy you more then you him, but that doesnt mean it is a close fight. a railgun shot, or 1-2 thunder shots, mean that i can destroy m3 viking m3 freeze

[r_M1A-Abrams0 1]

gr8 guid many ppl hate us isida users bc we are getting scores faster then they do

But demn hwo cares as long as we enjoy it

 

:)

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

@GO_IRELAND

That's what I meant by that, You have the ability to stay alive more than any other short ranged gun in your team. Use that Ability.

 

@M1A-Abrams

That's what I meant when I said get those couple of kills as well. I'm never angry if another Isida finishes first, just because he helped the team win and thus he earned those points. What I do hate are those M0 Isida which under estimate themselves. They just need to know that they are as good as any other Isida when it comes to healing. Even the smallest amount of Health is enough because for most of the tanks. 5 HP is the difference between life and death.

[Raaish 26]

Sorry' date=' koolwalky, have to disagree with your assessment of a battle against M3 Freeze. Your M3 Isida will lose unless the Freeze is near death to begin with. Any Freeze will wisely stay out of your range, while completely destroying you. There is very little you can do about it. If you want to prove me wrong (and please do), make a video of you battling another pro M3 Freeze. There is a reason why you are switching to a Freeze....Isida cannot compete. Now, I am not saying that an Isida [b']should[/b] be able to compete with an M3 Freeze. After all, how can it when the Freeze is so over-powered and out-of-balance with the other weapons. Makes you wonder what havoc future weapons will bring to the game.

An m0 freeze can kill m3 isida with any tank.

[husto 474]

Sorry' date=' koolwalky, have to disagree with your assessment of a battle against M3 Freeze. Your M3 Isida will lose unless the Freeze is near death to begin with. Any Freeze will wisely stay out of your range, while completely destroying you. There is very little you can do about it. If you want to prove me wrong (and please do), make a video of you battling another pro M3 Freeze. There is a reason why you are switching to a Freeze....Isida cannot compete. Now, I am not saying that an Isida [b']should[/b] be able to compete with an M3 Freeze. After all, how can it when the Freeze is so over-powered and out-of-balance with the other weapons. Makes you wonder what havoc future weapons will bring to the game.

An m0 freeze can kill m3 isida with any tank.

ah really?? Wanna see? M3 isida and M0 viking kan kill M3 freeze with M0 viking

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Sorry' date=' koolwalky, have to disagree with your assessment of a battle against M3 Freeze. Your M3 Isida will lose unless the Freeze is near death to begin with. Any Freeze will wisely stay out of your range, while completely destroying you. There is very little you can do about it. If you want to prove me wrong (and please do), make a video of you battling another pro M3 Freeze. There is a reason why you are switching to a Freeze....Isida cannot compete. Now, I am not saying that an Isida [b']should[/b] be able to compete with an M3 Freeze. After all, how can it when the Freeze is so over-powered and out-of-balance with the other weapons. Makes you wonder what havoc future weapons will bring to the game.

 

Maybe you didn't read the entire guide, if the enemy has above 120 HP, the battle is in his favour unless you can live for a couple more seconds after your charge wears off.

 

Anything below 120 HP is good to be dead against an Isida. Because it attacks for 5 Seconds.

 

24 Damage/Second X 5 Seconds = 120 Damage

[NoblePlatOne 19]

Maybe you didn't read the entire guide, if the enemy has above 120 HP, the battle is in his favour unless you can live for a couple more seconds after your charge wears off.

 

Anything below 120 HP is good to be dead against an Isida. Because it attacks for 5 Seconds.

 

24 Damage/Second X 5 Seconds = 120 Damage

I did read the entire post. So think About this: M3 Isida meets M3 Freeze (even with 80hp). Freeze has reach of 20 meters. Isida has reach of 15 meters. Freeze freezes Isida, basically paralyzing it in its tracks. Freezes swings around danceing around out of Isida's reach, all the while spraying its damage on Isiida. Isida cannot escape. Isida cannot reach Freeze. Isida can only sit there and wonder what the heck koolwalky is thinking about in this kind of frequent battle scenario. Isida can only die.

 

Isida loses in a head-to-head battle. Isida loses in an around-a-corner battle. My only hope is that the Freeze was stupid enough to attack me when it is up against the wall and cannot escape itself.

 

Again, I am not saying that an Isida should be able to dominate a Freeze. Freeze is, after all Tier 2. It should be a more powerful weapon. I accept that. But don't tell me that Isida has a resonable chance against M3 Freeze. And don't tell me that Freeze does not unbalance the game.

[NoblePlatOne 19]

M3 isida wins over M3 freeze. Tested this out in test server.

Sitting nose-to-nose? Try in an actually battle scenario. Read my above response to koolwalky.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

@NoblePlatOne Isida will overcome if its a nose to nose game. I do realize that Freeze' range can easily overcome Isida but in most of the maps where Isida is actually a good turret to choose that is not the case. Even in Sandbox and Silence the freeze can easily lose to Isida'.

 

All that you need to do is to get the correct timing and nothing else. I used Isida for a long time and I did switch when I had the chance just because that Ratio just above 1 with Isida isn't good for my rating.

But of course the scenario always matters and everyone knows that if the freeze is in a good position, no Isida is capable enough to take him down.

But just tell me this, Do you remember all those Isida' which stick to the a fully drugged enemy player like leeches or vampires? When was the last time those Isida' were able to damage the enemy while you weren't even able to get near him.

 

Isida loses in a head-to-head battle. Isida loses in an around-a-corner battle. My only hope is that the Freeze was stupid enough to attack me when it is up against the wall and cannot escape itself.

 

Isida does not lose in a head-to-head battle against any Tier 1, or "Early Tier 2" tanks. The only turret that can cause a problem is Freeze and as all good Isida' players know. Just avoid the freeze when he's looking at you once he turns to attack someone else you can easily go for the kill. I used M2 Freeze and M2 Viking + Drugs for a lot of time and the only enemy players that ever caused problems were the other Freezes and the Isida'. I've had a lot of experience using all the guns and I do realize that Isida versus Freeze is a little imbalanced but not a lot. As long as the Freeze doesn't know where you are, the game is pretty one sided.

And do remember that this is a team game, at the end of the day it wont matter if you killed that enemy Freeze at that time, what does matter is that you "at least" forced him to use that Health Pack.

[Raaish 26]

Sorry' date=' koolwalky, have to disagree with your assessment of a battle against M3 Freeze. Your M3 Isida will lose unless the Freeze is near death to begin with. Any Freeze will wisely stay out of your range, while completely destroying you. There is very little you can do about it. If you want to prove me wrong (and please do), make a video of you battling another pro M3 Freeze. There is a reason why you are switching to a Freeze....Isida cannot compete. Now, I am not saying that an Isida [b']should[/b] be able to compete with an M3 Freeze. After all, how can it when the Freeze is so over-powered and out-of-balance with the other weapons. Makes you wonder what havoc future weapons will bring to the game.

An m0 freeze can kill m3 isida with any tank.

ah really?? Wanna see? M3 isida and M0 viking kan kill M3 freeze with M0 viking

proof.........

[Raaish 26]

@NoblePlatOne Isida will overcome if its a nose to nose game. I do realize that Freeze' range can easily overcome Isida but in most of the maps where Isida is actually a good turret to choose that is not the case. Even in Sandbox and Silence the freeze can easily lose to Isida'.

 

All that you need to do is to get the correct timing and nothing else. I used Isida for a long time and I did switch when I had the chance just because that Ratio just above 1 with Isida isn't good for my rating.

But of course the scenario always matters and everyone knows that if the freeze is in a good position, no Isida is capable enough to take him down.

But just tell me this, Do you remember all those Isida' which stick to the a fully drugged enemy player like leeches or vampires? When was the last time those Isida' were able to damage the enemy while you weren't even able to get near him.

 

Isida loses in a head-to-head battle. Isida loses in an around-a-corner battle. My only hope is that the Freeze was stupid enough to attack me when it is up against the wall and cannot escape itself.

 

Isida does not lose in a head-to-head battle against any Tier 1, or "Early Tier 2" tanks. The only turret that can cause a problem is Freeze and as all good Isida' players know. Just avoid the freeze when he's looking at you once he turns to attack someone else you can easily go for the kill. I used M2 Freeze and M2 Viking + Drugs for a lot of time and the only enemy players that ever caused problems were the other Freezes and the Isida'. I've had a lot of experience using all the guns and I do realize that Isida versus Freeze is a little imbalanced but not a lot. As long as the Freeze doesn't know where you are, the game is pretty one sided.

And do remember that this is a team game, at the end of the day it wont matter if you killed that enemy Freeze at that time, what does matter is that you "at least" forced him to use that Health Pack.

*The freeze turns around,sees u and freezes u.U can't go any near. and u die -.-

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

*The freeze turns around' date='sees u and freezes u.U can't go any near. and u die -.- [/quote']

 

That's just a worst case scenario, why would he turn around for you when he has bigger problems on hand? Like a Railgun or a Thunder? What can a puny little Isida do which is too scared to fight a Freeze.

 

PS, Kindly don't use the Quote function like you did in your message it creates flood.

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

Actually expereinced Isida has no chance against the same experienced Freeze. It's even possible to destroy Isida without losing HP. We have to accept that Freeze owns now. But let's hope that in 2.0 version our game will be more balanced.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

Agreed that freeze owns everything at short range. :)

 

Nothing can stop a good freezer from freezing.

 

But, I'll still disagree with buffing Isida, Isida is still over powered and we don't want it to be able to fight the Tier 2 guns, right? Just like we didn't want Smoky XT to stay forever. :)

 

EDIT: O.O I got more messages than you :XD:

[NoblePlatOne 19]

Agreed that freeze owns everything at short range. :)

 

But, I'll still disagree with buffing Isida, Isida is still over powered and we don't want it to be able to fight the Tier 2 guns, right? Just like we didn't want Smoky XT to stay forever. :)

I am glad that we finally agree. I have never advocated increasing Isida's power. It should not be buffed. And Freeze should be stronger than Isida. However, Freeze still needs to be adjusted. That is for discussion in other threads, not in here, though.

[GO_IRELAND 0]

as kool said before isida is very good at staying alive in many maps

i was playing highland II and was the only one to have a ratio above 1 at the end of the game (there was a m3 & m2 thunder and m3 rail with protective paints) they were playing badly just the other team was so much better, i took down an m3 freeze many times (not in a straight duel but how often do they happen)

[cablaz 32]

What you guys dont realize about isida is that once an enemy is in 15m range and isida starts attacking/healing its ranged can stretch up to around 20m at max which is the same range as freezes and by then the freeze's think you cant damage them anymore cause ur at about a 18m range but you get surprised that its still attackin you.

 

Took some work makin that ;)

[r_Justen0 9]

all I do, is if I know an isida is going to kill me, I shoot it right before I die, so it doesn't gain any health back from the tungsten slug that just punched a hole through their tank.