New firebird does really show what afterburn is capable of!

[Strikechard123 241]

Firebird used to be a weaker version of isida and freeze. In the stats you can see that it has low dps, BUT, when combined with the afterburn, I think it does the highest DPS of any weapon. Even if you spray the enemy for a second and go for another victim, be it a light medium hull, they are certainly going to die unless they use double armor or repair kit. Fire deserved this buffç

 

Edit: Also, with the m2 alteration, I think that just a tick of the afterburn will take half of your hitpoints, lol

Edit2: It seems that vulcan overheat damage increased a lot too, maybe because the burn damage changes

Edited August 10, 2018 by Strikechard123

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

can someone please tell me what are the stats for firebird and freeze?

 

i can't log in to check right now, they did not provide exact figures in the announcement and the wiki isn't updated.

[Strikechard123 241]

Freeze.

 

M0 450 DPS

 

M1 582 DPS

 

M2 635 DPS

 

M3 794 DPS

 

Firebird.

 

M0 200 DPS

 

M1 (2 MUs) 338 DPS, 300 damage every tick of afterburn

 

M2 479 DPS

 

M3 582 DPS

 

Firebird DPS may seem low at first but when you get to discover the new afterburn, you will see it is like, nuttss

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

 

thanks..

 

but are there other stats you can see? like maybe max temperature or heating rate?

[wolverine848 13,097]

So M3 Freeze now does 794 damage.  Before the buff it did 669.  net increase of 18%. 

 

They did add 1 extra second of attack (now 8 seconds instead of 7).

Edited August 10, 2018 by wolverine848

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

 

So M3 Freeze now does 794 damage.  Before the buff it did 669.  net increase of 18%. 

 

They did add 1 extra second of attack (now 8 seconds instead of 7).

 

thanks! and i know m4 does 900.. from what i heard on the RU forums it is still very powerful

 

but did they adjut freezing rate, freezing effect or temperature?

[Strikechard123 241]

thanks..

 

but are there other stats you can see? like maybe max temperature or heating rate?

 

Heating rate appears in the wiki: 0.4 per second.

 

Max temperature, I think it changed with this update because the burning time is lower, and they said in the annoucement that the max temperature determines burning time. But now, afterburn damage is the same in every tick, in my case, firebird m1 with 2 micro upgrades, it deals 300 damage every half a second or a second, I didn't pay attention, but, it deals nice damage and it gets me many kills now.

 

 

So M3 Freeze now does 794 damage.  Before the buff it did 669.  net increase of 18%. 

 

They did add 1 extra second of attack (now 8 seconds instead of 7).

 

You read it completely wrong and mixed things up. M3 Freeze dealt 882 DPS. 669 damage was done by Firebird m3. They didn't add a second, 8 seconds is the time it takes for freeze to reload after using all its energy.

Edited August 10, 2018 by Strikechard123

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Heating rate appears in the wiki: 0.4 per second.

yah but wiki isn't updated yet

 

 

Max temperature, I think it changed with this update because the burning time is lower, and they said in the annoucement that the max temperature determines burning time. But now, afterburn damage is the same in every tick, in my case, firebird m1 with 2 micro upgrades, it deals 300 damage every half a second or a second, I didn't pay attention, but, it deals nice damage and it gets me many kills now.

okay they changed how burning works so we can't tell if temperature has changed based on burning time or damage but.. it is clear that burning dps is now a lot higher

 

 

You read it completely wrong and mixed things up. M3 Freeze dealt 882 DPS. 669 damage was done by Firebird m3. They didn't add a second, 8 seconds is the time it takes for freeze to reload after using all its energy.

he was talking about freeze before the 30% buff... :)  but you're right about the damage time/reload

[GorgoBlesk 831]

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I just bought M1 Freeze on my alt gorgoblesk99 (while already having M1 Fire) and now Fire turned better than Freeze? 20000 crystals lost!

 

Time for new alt? No, it is still OP with Predator kit and M1 Viking but if I bought Rico (or saved for Hornet?) instead of Freeze...

 

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[GorgoBlesk 831]

Wait... If the afterburn of NORMAL Fire is so strong, then how strong is the afterburn of Fire with Compact Tanks alt???

 

That must be a real monstrosity for sure. Time to rename Firebird to Firesnake.

[CabbageRoll 3,018]

too bad i ant login to tanki to roast some drugging kids

[Toby 2,938]

can someone please tell me what are the stats for firebird and freeze?

 

i can't log in to check right now, they did not provide exact figures in the announcement and the wiki isn't updated.

• Firebird
  • Micro-upgrades Firebird
• Freeze
  • Micro-upgrades Freeze

The above-mentioned Wiki pages have been updated with the new parameter stats (http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=291454&page=149&p=6587433&do=findComment&comment=6587433).

[Hancho 3,902]

Firebird burn has really huge difference. The burning effect is really strong comparing before the buff. The burning effect feels like the fire is still firing at you. 

[SplashGun 22]

New fire sucks. It takes too long time get one kill.  You are vulnerable to enemy fire all that time with low range turret.

You're in more bad situation than freeze (freezing effect) or isida (higher DPSI

 

It may not bother all mediocre players, but for a skilled fire user it is very bad.

Edited August 10, 2018 by SplashGun

[RevengeAttacker 217]

Firebird is too good to be true in my opinion

[Strikechard123 241]

The Firebird and Freeze Wiki pages have been updated with the new stats.

I wonder, why don't the wiki editors put the burn damage now? It is the same now every tick, soo it doesn't make sense not to put that important info there

[wolverine848 13,097]

New fire sucks. It takes too long time get one kill.  You are vulnerable to enemy fire all that time with low range turret.

You're in more bad situation than freeze (freezing effect) or isida (higher DPSI

 

It may not bother all mediocre players, but for a skilled fire user it is very bad.

What?

 

It is killing more now than ever.  Hit and run.  Target just dies as the firebrid hides.

Maybe you are facing lots of fire modules or your equipment not upgraded enough.

 

Firebird is at least as effective as it was before the change.

[Rhythmic 80]

Fire was always garbo. You'd be killed by the tank you were attacking, then they'd die. Fire is built for 1 on 1 trades. It's even worse with the new update that burn does consistant damage over time instead of its temperature. SAD!

[wolverine848 13,097]

You read it completely wrong and mixed things up. M3 Freeze dealt 882 DPS. 669 damage was done by Firebird m3. They didn't add a second, 8 seconds is the time it takes for freeze to reload after using all its energy.

You read (at least part of) my post wrong. 

As Guido says ... before the 30% buff freeze had dmg per second at m3 of 669 - same as firebird.

 

he was talking about freeze before the 30% buff... :)  but you're right about the damage time/reload

Energy pool (attack duration) as of now is... still 7 seconds?

Edited August 10, 2018 by wolverine848

[Evanescence 100]

Firebird is hilariously OP now. Especially with Compact Tanks. It's after burn literally chips away 1/8 of my health per second. When the firebird barely touches me for less than a second, I'm still stuck on half health. Please nerf burning, i liked the old burning mechanic. 

[Strikechard123 241]

Firebird is hilariously OP now. Especially with Compact Tanks. It's after burn literally chips away 1/8 of my health per second. When the firebird barely touches me for less than a second, I'm still stuck on half health. Please nerf burning, i liked the old burning mechanic. 

Nerrfj cuz I lost against it!!11!1!!!!1!!1!!!

[DestrotankF1 52]

Firebird/Freeze/Isida are actually nerfed it turns out, all had their minimum damage range reduced to 20. Don't see the point in that as the ranged turrets were already so strong, and damage nerf is enough for Freeze.

Edited August 10, 2018 by DestrotankF1

[Strikechard123 241]

Firebird/Freeze/Isida are actually nerfed it turns out, all had their minimum damage range reduced to 20. Don't see the point in that as the ranged turrets were already so strong, and damage nerf is enough for Freeze.

Hey, they didn't say that. I checked the wiki and you are right, they got those stats changed without mentioning them. Why are tanki devs doing this? They also did this with the experience points won with isida when healing, they didn't mention it got reduced.

[Pyre 3,485]

I wonder, why don't the wiki editors put the burn damage now? It is the same now every tick, soo it doesn't make sense not to put that important info there

As they stated on the Wiki Hub, they dont add info until they receive it from the devs. Once they get the information they will add it ASAP.

[SplashGun 22]

New Firebird sucks big time. Bye bye fire.