Higher the rank - Lower the average skill - More boring battles - Why?

[Potdindy 866]

I see hardly any twins players...maybe 1-2 per battle on both sides combined

[GorgoBlesk 831]

I see hardly any twins players...maybe 1-2 per battle on both sides combined

Of course. Battles are full of Thunders, Magnums, Fires and Freezes.

[Potdindy 866]

And Rico and Isida...I love when I see lots of Thunders...yummy breakfast

[Guest]

I see more Viking Twins players.

Or that, they both are no skill. 

[GorgoBlesk 831]

And Rico and Isida...I love when I see lots of Thunders...yummy breakfast

Yummy breakfast? Only when they are noobs and can not aim or when you use Magnum and lob shots over walls and buildings.

 

Using Magnum is the only way to avoid huge Thunder damage.

[Potdindy 866]

Yummy breakfast? Only when they are noobs and can not aim or when you use Magnum and lob shots over walls and buildings.

 

Using Magnum is the only way to avoid huge Thunder damage.

I hardly ever have trouble with Thunder, more magnum, twins and short range turrets. For those who think no skill is required, place a legend against a relatively new player with the same equipment....RIP the noob

 

Idk how TO used to require "skill" but now even though most things are the same, skill is not required? That just doesnt make sense to me. If you dont like supplies, play a non supply battle...everyone should have plenty of them except perhaps repairs

[LunaStar 348]

Everything you said is now invalid.

Invalid? Magnum impact & damage is so high that even moamoth kill in 1 shots when magnum uses DD. This is so unfair for MM Battles

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Invalid? Magnum impact & damage is so high that even moamoth kill in 1 shots when magnum uses DD. This is so unfair for MM Battles

But that never happens because everybody is trying to cancel out eachother's drugs.

My average Magnum M4 shots do 1400 damage; and I never miss... yeah unless I got enemies up my (...) but that's just stupidity on my end because I haven't picked out a good camp spot.

 

As soon as you get any edge on the enemy, players will ram up protection modules in your face and you're underpowered by default unless you switch camp spots and have 826 eyes that can view 360 degrees every step of the way.

[SplashGun 22]

The battles are not boring. They become more difficult as you meet new experienced players with more knowledge and stronger hulls/turrets inside their garage. 

 

The fact that you created new account to kill newbies who absolutely has no knowledge about the game, has no clue they are facing somebody who already has high rank account. That shows lack of skill/experience you have and cannot face somebody killing you or who has a stronger garage (that also happens in low rank leagues). 

 

I personally enjoy playing with legends, more difficult and more fun to be honest. Tough battles, I can honestly say I like the reward I get end of the battle. I dislike getting reward from easily battles.

 

I have got WO4 - Maxed out to M2 titan and smoky. I dominate battles, literally get 0 deaths but I stopped enjoying it. Yes, you get easy kills but there is no enjoyment. I get more entertainment at Legend league because there are really strong players during battles and you end up winning against them, that is entertainment and worth playing for. 

 

In conclusion - You can't say the battles are boring in Legend league if you can't commit facing experienced players. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

Well you said it  "Stronger hull/turrets".  Most legends seem to favor fat or heavy hulls and use direct charge tactics supported with drugs and drones and the famous repair kit.  By direct charge I mean literally direct charge and relying to their OP equip.  THAT IS SO BORING and really does not require skill.   Your X-O  account really just backs up what I am saying.   I am not looking for easy battles, I am looking for fun and challenging battles, where SKILL is rewarded.     I have now played about 50 hours with my new acc and used about 500 supplies as a non-buyer. I am doing pretty well despite the fact that many players seemed to have used around 5000 supplies at the same time.

 

I have played against legends with my Marshall and Field Marshall accounts and I have been doing just fine.

 

In conclusion -  my conclusion is correct.

Edited August 30, 2018 by SplashGun

[Hancho 3,902]

Well you said it  "Stronger hull/turrets".  Most legends seem to favor fat or heavy hulls and use direct charge tactics supported with drugs and drones and the famous repair kit.  By direct charge I mean literally direct charge and relying to their OP equip.  THAT IS SO BORING and really does not require skill.   Your X-O  account really just backs up what I am saying.   I am not looking for easy battles, I am looking for fun and challenging battles, where SKILL is rewarded.     I have now played about 50 hours with my new acc and used about 500 supplies as a non-buyer. I am doing pretty well despite the fact that many players seemed to have used around 5000 supplies at the same time.

 

I have played against legends with my Marshall and Field Marshall accounts and I have been doing just fine.

 

In conclusion -  my conclusion is correct.

"Most Legends" - Wrong. There are barely any players who has equipped titan/mammoth and even if they do - there is nothing wrong with that if the enemy team is strong and you're currently holding the victory in the battle. You said it yourself though - You just can't face stronger players against you, you rather go make a new account to kill new players who has no knowledge about the game and how to properly play/overcome the enemy. 

 

I'm sorry but where do you require "SKILL" on your low rank account? Do you need a skill to kill a new player? You're basically taking an advantage of them by having fun and getting easy kills because they have no idea yet how to play the game. If you want challenging battles, you need to be in Legend League. You said you're looking for "challenging" battles - meaning you still haven't had them yet since created a new account as soon as you reached this account where all the experienced players are at. Hence why it's so boring to you because you get killed easily. 

 

I don't think you have been doing fine with your Field Marshall account against Legends because you have decided to create new account to kill newbies. You're just arrogant that's all. 

 

I don't think you know how the conclusion works but at least you tried, you can't comment on your own conclusion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[SplashGun 22]

"Most Legends" - Wrong. There are barely any players who has equipped titan/mammoth and even if they do - there is nothing wrong with that if the enemy team is strong and you're currently holding the victory in the battle. You said it yourself though - You just can't face stronger players against you, you rather go make a new account to kill new players who has no knowledge about the game and how to properly play/overcome the enemy. 

 

I'm sorry but where do you require "SKILL" on your low rank account? Do you need a skill to kill a new player? You're basically taking an advantage of them by having fun and getting easy kills because they have no idea yet how to play the game. If you want challenging battles, you need to be in Legend League. You said you're looking for "challenging" battles - meaning you still haven't had them yet since created a new account as soon as you reached this account where all the experienced players are at. Hence why it's so boring to you because you get killed easily. 

 

I don't think you have been doing fine with your Field Marshall account against Legends because you have decided to create new account to kill newbies. You're just arrogant that's all. 

 

I don't think you know how the conclusion works but at least you tried, you can't comment on your own conclusion. 

 

Me taking advantage? Now you're just being funny.   From your acc I can see that you're a buyer.  A Buyer, if any, really is taking advantage of OP equipment and killing the "helpless" non-buyers from low ranks to upper ranks without a need of any skill.  

 

You can freely think what you like.. I find it most amusing. You do try hard to be arrogant - by  doing conclusions of me and my skills, but your logic and "conclusions" are so handicapped it's fun to read.  I personally did not "attack" any persons.  I just stated my observations about higher rank battles.  If you took that as arrogant, I must have hit the point.

[Hancho 3,902]

Me taking advantage? Now you're just being funny.   From your acc I can see that you're a buyer.  A Buyer, if any, really is taking advantage of OP equipment and killing the "helpless" non-buyers from low ranks to upper ranks without a need of any skill.  

 

You can freely think what you like.. I find it most amusing. You do try hard to be arrogant - by  doing conclusions of me and my skills, but your logic and "conclusions" are so handicapped it's fun to read.  I personally did not "attack" any persons.  I just stated my observations about higher rank battles.  If you took that as arrogant, I must have hit the point.

All I did was stating your opinion wrong because you have stated, playing against Legends or in Legend League is boring/non-challenging battles which you were wrong because I have more experience than you and have more knowledge than you do as well. 

 

"Helpless" non-buyers? Buying is a choice and I made the choice that I want my garage to be fully upgraded, everyone has a choice to buy, hence why buying is not taking an advantage of non-buying people, either way, it doesn't make me above anyone, I am a simple normal player just like everybody else. I don't know what kind of skill you're talking about, if you're talking about landing lucky shots with railgun, forget about it. 

 

You don't have to turn out to be ignorant, I did not provoke you but your statement was wrong. If you knew how to really play this game then this conversation would have not been happening. 

 

Your point was wrong and to make my point stronger - Take a look how many likes my post got, most of them were from Legend players who have been here for the very long time and they are honestly really good players. 

 

 

I really hope you bumped your head somewhere because if not you are just ignorant. Extreme skill in high rank battles and very little at your level. You don't really learn to play this game at your level. You will find out. 

^ Exactly.

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I rest my case here. Feel free to PM me. 

[SplashGun 22]

All I did was stating your opinion wrong because you have stated, playing against Legends or in Legend League is boring/non-challenging battles which you were wrong because I have more experience than you and have more knowledge than you do as well. 

 

"Helpless" non-buyers? Buying is a choice and I made the choice that I want my garage to be fully upgraded, everyone has a choice to buy, hence why buying is not taking an advantage of non-buying people, either way, it doesn't make me above anyone, I am a simple normal player just like everybody else. I don't know what kind of skill you're talking about, if you're talking about landing lucky shots with railgun, forget about it. 

 

You don't have to turn out to be ignorant, I did not provoke you but your statement was wrong. If you knew how to really play this game then this conversation would have not been happening. 

 

Your point was wrong and to make my point stronger - Take a look how many likes my post got, most of them were from Legend players who have been here for the very long time and they are honestly really good players. 

 

 

^ Exactly.

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I rest my case here. Feel free to PM me. 

 

Well,.. stating an opinion cannot be wrong.  Your logic fails once again.

Buying equipment is not wrong or right.  It is a choice.  But a buyer like you accusing a non-buyer like me being not fair to noobs when creating a new account is just hilarious, considering how easy it has been for you to kill low rank players with bought OP equipment with no skills required.

 

You say you have more experience.  You cannot know that.  I have had at least 12 different accounts, while 4 is still active.

 

When talking about what is skill, I did write my view on the topic in this discussion chain.. if you just would have decency to read what has been written earlier...

 

My "point" cannot be wrong as it is my perception about the battles I have had with legends.  Pls try to be more logical.

[N0iSE 222]

 From your acc I can see that you're a buyer.  A Buyer, if any, really is taking advantage of OP equipment and killing the "helpless" non-buyers from low ranks to upper ranks without a need of any skill.  

I am always amazed why people (in this instance SplashGun) use the term buyer or non-buyer as an argument to prove someone's superiority. Mostly favoring the non-buyer being superior because he does not buy himself into the game. 

 

I find this a bit arrogant from the non-buyers' side:

You should be thankful that people are willing to support TO with real money without bragging too much about it;

They just buy in-game stuff and also make it possible to keep TO a free game for people who do not want to or cannot pay.

Playing for free is not a credit you can claim.

It is a privilege provided by other people paying for it.

And you're welcome.

If you are a non-buyer, it just means you have to grind your way to the top (and it will get expensive -so better save your crystals).

It will take you a long time for reaching it and true: time IS experience.

But having experience does not always mean being skilled. 

 

It is very easy nowadays to keep up with supplies etc as a non-buyer when you do your daily mission chains.

And yes, buyers also can do this, but it surely will provide you with enough supplies to "drug like water"  B) 

so I do not see any advantage being OP in this. 

Also, if you plan wisely, you can have powerful gear as well, without having to pay a cent of real money. 

 

I find playing against high ranks challenging and not boring at all. Yes, you come across a lot of strong tanks (who appear OP but are not  :ph34r:)

But I also come across much more skillful players and not just one, two or three tanks dominating an entire battle as you see more often in lower ranks. So what if they charge right-through because they are stronger when directly confronted?

You have to be smarter then and play around it.

I am pretty confident I learned more in my last half year battling higher ranks then in my four years of grinding in the low ranks.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 30, 2018 by N0iSE

[Hancho 3,902]

Well,.. stating an opinion cannot be wrong.  Your logic fails once again.

Buying equipment is not wrong or right.  It is a choice.  But a buyer like you accusing a non-buyer like me being not fair to noobs when creating a new account is just hilarious, considering how easy it has been for you to kill low rank players with bought OP equipment with no skills required.

 

You say you have more experience.  You cannot know that.  I have had at least 12 different accounts, while 4 is still active.

 

When talking about what is skill, I did write my view on the topic in this discussion chain.. if you just would have decency to read what has been written earlier...

 

My "point" cannot be wrong as it is my perception about the battles I have had with legends.  Pls try to be more logical.

Stating an opinion cannot be wrong but it can be in-denial or have the wrong information, which on your side, was the wrong information. You honestly don't have to be so ignorant. 

 

It is a choice, yes. I made the choice to buy the equipment I want and upgrade it so I can face experienced players face to face and not lose each time, did I make the right choice depending in the league I am at the moment? Yes, absolutely. Do I need logic for that? I don't think so, ignorance won't get you too far. 

 

Since you have admitted you have 12 different accounts, definitely not any Legend account, knowing you still can't face experienced players who knows how to exactly play this game, yet you're claiming you have "experience"? What experience exactly do you have? You should have known Legend league is not easy, it is challenging and you need the right equipment in order to be able to play in that kind of league, just like in every each game, do I need logic for that again? Of course not. "Waiting for that *pls try to be more logical* comment".

 

By looking at your account, you definitely wouldn't survive against the Legend, poor equipment, which is understandable but if you committed to one account and saved up to max out the equipment, you would not have any problem. AGAIN, do I need logic for that? It's a common sense, please do more research instead of trying to act smart. 

[SplashGun 22]

I am always amazed why people (in this instance SplashGun) use the term buyer or non-buyer as an argument to prove someone's superiority. Mostly favoring the non-buyer being superior because he does not buy himself into the game. 

 

I find this a bit arrogant from the non-buyers' side:

You should be thankful that people are willing to support TO with real money without bragging too much about it;

They just buy in-game stuff and also make it possible to keep TO a free game for people who do not want to or cannot pay.

Playing for free is not a credit you can claim.

It is a privilege provided by other people paying for it.

And you're welcome.

If you are a non-buyer, it just means you have to grind your way to the top (and it will get expensive -so better save your crystals).

It will take you a long time for reaching it and true: time IS experience.

But having experience does not always mean being skilled. 

 

It is very easy nowadays to keep up with supplies etc as a non-buyer when you do your daily mission chains.

And yes, buyers also can do this, but it surely will provide you with enough supplies to "drug like water"  B) 

so I do not see any advantage being OP in this. 

Also, if you plan wisely, you can have powerful gear as well, without having to pay a cent of real money. 

 

I find playing against high ranks challenging and not boring at all. Yes, you come across a lot of strong tanks (who appear OP but are not  :ph34r:)

But I also come across much more skillful players and not just one, two or three tanks dominating an entire battle as you see more often in lower ranks. So what if they charge right-through because they are stronger when directly confronted?

You have to be smarter then and play around it.

I am pretty confident I learned more in my last half year battling higher ranks then in my four years of grinding in the low ranks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is getting pretty funny.   Where have I stated that non-buyer is superior to a buyer? I have given my perception of how I see the battles I've

been participating.    I give my respect to good players regardless, if they are buyers or non-buyers.

 

I am a non-buyer, that is true.  I could as well argue that buyers should be thankful to non-buyers as they create a big enough player base so that buyers can feel competent with their style of play.   I am amazed how some players feel need to give reasons for being a buyer.

 

I do not need lessons of how to play well.  I do know I play well.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

But a buyer like you accusing a non-buyer like me being not fair to noobs when creating a new account is just hilarious, considering how easy it has been for you to kill low rank players with bought OP equipment with no skills required.

like hacking, both buying and starting new accounts are ways to get an unfair advantage over others. although i prefer buying because  at least you are helping to fund the game.

 

also, from my experience buying doesn't really help that much in legend battles. In low ranked battles, yes it does but not in legend battles.

on the other hand, starting new accounts to bully newbies  gives you far more of an advantage. On top of that, starting a new account allows you to manipulate daily missions, mission chains and sales to get mega buyer level equipment for your rank... making you even more of a bully. you're basically using your superior equipment as well as your experience to crush players.

 

 

when i play on my friend's account with a full m4 garage (turrets, hulls and modules) I can hardly bully anyone. maybe once in a while i end a battle early..

 

but on my spanish account which i was forced to create in order to play on the servers there.. i have never spent any money there but i decimate everyone in my path.

[SplashGun 22]

Stating an opinion cannot be wrong but it can be in-denial or have the wrong information, which on your side, was the wrong information. You honestly don't have to be so ignorant. 

 

It is a choice, yes. I made the choice to buy the equipment I want and upgrade it so I can face experienced players face to face and not lose each time, did I make the right choice depending in the league I am at the moment? Yes, absolutely. Do I need logic for that? I don't think so, ignorance won't get you too far. 

 

Since you have admitted you have 12 different accounts, definitely not any Legend account, knowing you still can't face experienced players who knows how to exactly play this game, yet you're claiming you have "experience"? What experience exactly do you have? You should have known Legend league is not easy, it is challenging and you need the right equipment in order to be able to play in that kind of league, just like in every each game, do I need logic for that again? Of course not. "Waiting for that *pls try to be more logical* comment".

 

By looking at your account, you definitely wouldn't survive against the Legend, poor equipment, which is understandable but if you committed to one account and saved up to max out the equipment, you would not have any problem. AGAIN, do I need logic for that? It's a common sense, please do more research instead of trying to act smart. 

 

Well... you do make conclusions out of nothing.    Yes, with my Splashgun account, which is 6 ranks below legend rank, it definitely would be difficult to play against legends. From my other account where MM have put me to play against legends, I did not see them that challenging but more like boring compared to mid rank battles.    You somehow think that experience equals with skills, but that is not true.   Clearly the tendency in higher rank battles are more towards mid and heavy hulls, which makes battles not as much fun as in mid rank battles.  So pls don't try to act more smart than you really are.

 

We can continue this nice chat tomorrow if you like.

[SplashGun 22]

 On top of that, starting a new account allows you to manipulate daily missions, mission chains and sales to get mega buyer level equipment for your rank... making you even more of a bully. you're basically using your superior equipment as well as your experience to crush players.

 

 

I do not understand how one can "manipulate" daily missions and mission chains.  I also cannot understand how one  can get mega buyer level equipment compared to any other player with new acc?

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

I do not understand how one can "manipulate" daily missions and mission chains.  I also cannot understand how one  can get mega buyer level equipment compared to any other player with new acc?

how would new players know that they have to save up for sales or wait for kits with good deals to appear in the garage? how would new players know that the more they play each day after they finish their missions the fewer crystals they'll have for their rank?

 

you already know this before you create a new account so you can make sure you have the best equipment for your rank and bully those who don't when you do.

 

if you still don't understand... take a look at those people who spam tanki picture of the day with scoreboards from their low ranked accounts which they brag they have never spent money on them.. all the kits they bought... all the MUs they have on them... without a cent spent on them... and then they just use it to stomp newbies who didn't know they could do that. and after the rank gets too high they start another account to repeat that because they can't deal with players with too much experience.

[SplashGun 22]

how would new players know that they have to save up for sales or wait for kits with good deals to appear in the garage? how would new players know that the more they play each day after they finish their missions the fewer crystals they'll have for their rank?

 

you already know this before you create a new account so you can make sure you have the best equipment for your rank and bully those who don't when you do.

 

if you still don't understand... take a look at those people who spam tanki picture of the day with scoreboards from their low ranked accounts which they brag they have never spent money on them.. all the kits they bought... all the MUs they have on them... without a cent spent on them... and then they just use it to stomp newbies who didn't know they could do that. and after the rank gets too high they start another account to repeat that because they can't deal with players with too much experience.

 

Ok, now I understand what you mean.  You are right about this advantage over new players.  With my first account I did similar mistakes.  I just hope newbies will read the guides in order to avoid that trap.   Basically the mistake is to try to get all hulls and turrets at low ranks. The MM actually makes it now worse for newbies which would prefer certain turret/hull combo but are forced to get good all round combo like hunter/smoky.

Edited August 30, 2018 by SplashGun

[Herwinos-Kurt 27]

I have no clue what battles you play..... What high rank player does not turn their turret?

you guys need to fin better friends and join real battles.

[Hancho 3,902]

Well... you do make conclusions out of nothing.    Yes, with my Splashgun account, which is 6 ranks below legend rank, it definitely would be difficult to play against legends. From my other account where MM have put me to play against legends, I did not see them that challenging but more like boring compared to mid rank battles.    You somehow think that experience equals with skills, but that is not true.   Clearly the tendency in higher rank battles are more towards mid and heavy hulls, which makes battles not as much fun as in mid rank battles.  So pls don't try to act more smart than you really are.

 

We can continue this nice chat tomorrow if you like.

Experience does make you more experienced player? Does it not? Hotel? Trivago. You're being in-denial now and creating your own theories how experience doesn't make you a better player, well done. 

 

No, I can agree with you, some battles are tend to be boring, don't get me wrong - All I'm saying is, if you had maxed out equipment and played in Legend league with the maxed out equipment, it would not be boring as it is now for you. There is no need to get defensive, we are not arguing here. 

 

You do whatever is the best for you. 

[SplashGun 22]

Experience does make you more experienced player? Does it not? Hotel? Trivago. You're being in-denial now and creating your own theories how experience doesn't make you a better player, well done. 

 

No, I can agree with you, some battles are tend to be boring, don't get me wrong - All I'm saying is, if you had maxed out equipment and played in Legend league with the maxed out equipment, it would not be boring as it is now for you. There is no need to get defensive, we are not arguing here. 

 

You do whatever is the best for you. 

 

Hi again, I was just saying that more "experience" does not directly mean more "skill".    If that would be the case, then Kimi Raikkonen would have easily won each formula race during the last 3 years in a row (Ferrari team mistakes not taken into account).

 

I wish you all fun battles.  May the force be with you.

[i_dont_pay_for_gear 14]

You are so right. I have like 10 accounts now becuse of that. This game is no fun any more so 90% of the time I leave before it ends.