Real Tanks That may have Inspired Turrets and Hulls in TO

[Aigaion 636]

because a lot of them are already snipers?

 

sniper class tanks don't exist but there are tanks which can perform the role of sniper

thats kinda my point, there already long range snipers, I'll keep looking though

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

shaft viking

[Aigaion 636]

I stand corrected  :o  :wacko:

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

I love the concept of this article! As a fan of real-life armor, it's nice to see someone else draw these parallels!

 

 

Just expressing a difference of opinion, but the M4 was inferior to the Panzer IV, and the Panzer IV was inferior to the T-34. I'd argue that the M4 Sherman was the least effective tank of its era. It was, I think, the least efficient tank at the beginning of the war, but by the end of the war, the Tiger probably held that particular crown.

T34 was acually superior to the Tiger, it was the Tiger II that was superior to T34

 

I think maybe he confused sherman with sherman firefly, which was considerably more effective than sherman and possibly more effective than Tiger... but definately not more than Tiger II tho

Edited October 1, 2018 by GuidoFawkes

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

No offence, but that seems biased.

First Abrams variant was deployed 1980s. First K2, 2014. I don't really think there's much bias.

 

T34 was acually superior to the Tiger, it was the Tiger II that was superior to T34

 

I think maybe he confused sherman with sherman firefly, which was considerably more effective than sherman and possibly more effective than Tiger... but definately not more than Tiger II tho

T-34 or T34?

 

One could argue about variants all day long.

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

First Abrams variant was deployed 1980s. First K2, 2014. I don't really think there's much bias.

 

 

First Leopard 2 deployment, 1979.

 

shaft viking

 

 

 

All the modern tanks in service with the largest armies are capable of long range combat. .-.

 

T34 was acually superior to the Tiger, it was the Tiger II that was superior to T34

 

I think maybe he confused sherman with sherman firefly, which was considerably more effective than sherman and possibly more effective than Tiger... but definately not more than Tiger II tho

 

 

T-34 or T34?

 

One could argue about variants all day long.

T-34 wasn't superior to the Tiger, Tiger 2 or the Panzer V Panther in ANY WAY, except for the sheer fact that Red Army could use 10 (heck, even more) for every tank Germans deployed.

 

Not even the T-34-85 was superior to the Tigers or the Panther.

 

The only thing that came close to them, which served in the Red Army were KV series of tanks and IS series of tanks.

 

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To be honest, one could argue the resemblance of Thunder + Viking in the Tigers and the Panther to be the earliest resemblance.

 

 

Great historical exercise, what you all think eh? :3

 

Edited October 1, 2018 by Total_SkiIl

[P.4.R.K.O.U.R 329]

Railgun -

The one we've all been waiting for, the Railgun. This gun is the only one on this list that does NOT use explosive or flammable weapons, and here is a simple brief example of how it works: it uses extremely high electrical currents to generate magnetic fields capable of accelerating a projectile to speeds of up to Mach 6, more than twice as fast as existing projectiles. The railgun has a range of more than 100 miles. It damages enemies not with explosive shells, but by slamming them with armor-piercing slugs at hypersonic speeds.

Exactly my opinion.

Heck, Tesla invented a powerful proton accelerator in his garage. A few developments and we would be firing sizable projectiles.

The key lies in decreasing the size of the accelerator by elongating and narrowing its coil, exactly like the railgun in tanki.

Edited October 1, 2018 by P.4.R.K.O.U.R

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

One could argue about variants all day long.

does a T34 variant even exist? then why you ask me a stupid question? of course i was talking about T-34

 

arguing is exactly what I'm here for. If you don't want then get out

Edited October 1, 2018 by GuidoFawkes

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

T-34 wasn't superior to the Tiger, Tiger 2 or the Panzer V Panther in ANY WAY, except for the sheer fact that Red Army could use 10 (heck, even more) for every tank Germans deployed.

 

Not even the T-34-85 was superior to the Tigers or the Panther.

 

The only thing that came close to them, which served in the Red Army were KV series of tanks and IS series of tanks.

 

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To be honest, one could argue the resemblance of Thunder + Viking in the Tigers and the Panther to be the earliest resemblance.

 

 

Great historical exercise, what you all think eh? :3

 

wat... higher top speed, way higher turret rotation speed, longer operational range, lower maintenance required, higher mobility, higher accuracy

Edited October 1, 2018 by GuidoFawkes

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

All the modern tanks in service with the largest armies are capable of long range combat. .-.

I know just about any tank nowadays are just like shaft.. and that's why he couldn't decide on which one was the best to use. but now we have a winner

[Aigaion 636]

which is? :blink:

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

which is? :blink:

all tanks can be snipers, but you have only seen one that looks exactly like shaft. 

[Aigaion 636]

all tanks can be snipers, but you have only seen one that looks exactly like shaft. 

my thoughts exacly

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

my thoughts exacly

so your winner shall be that tank that both works like shaft and looks like shaft

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

I know just about any tank nowadays are just like shaft.. and that's why he couldn't decide on which one was the best to use. but now we have a winner

 

 

which is? :blink:

 

 

all tanks can be snipers, but you have only seen one that looks exactly like shaft. 

 

 

so your winner shall be that tank that both works like shaft and looks like shaft

Check out Merkava Mk 4's design.

wat... higher top speed, way higher turret rotation speed, longer operational range, lower maintenance required, higher mobility, higher accuracy

100% correct about those, except for the accuracy part since German tanks would be able to accurately shoot a T-34 from far away (around 2km) while the T-34 couldn't match their turrets' range with its own turret.

 

I accept that my previous statement was a bit flawed, but still, in other aspects (like turret size, armour and etc) Tiger, Tiger 2 and Panzer V Panther > T-34 or T-34-85.

Edited October 1, 2018 by Total_SkiIl

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

100% correct about those, except for the accuracy part since German tanks would be able to accurately shoot a T-34 from far away (around 2km) while the T-34 couldn't match their turrets' range with its own turret.

while theorically a tiger could fire 2km, according to the german tiger field manual 1200m was the absolute maximum range you should try and engage other tanks. and most of the advice there was to only do it within 500m.

 

 

while t34 would most likely lose to tiger in 1vs1, it's not the same in group vs group because t34's higher mobility allows it to get more tactical advanatge. there are many times where even Tiger II's got ambushed and destroyed by T34s.

 

 

Edited October 1, 2018 by GuidoFawkes

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

does a T34 variant even exist? then why you ask me a stupid question? of course i was talking about T-34

 

arguing is exactly what I'm here for. If you don't want then get out

Because T34 is a totally different tank - it's not the same as T-34. T29/T34 was designed to counter Tiger II. T-34 was not.

Edited October 2, 2018 by ThirdOnion

[Aigaion 636]

Check out Merkava Mk 4's design.

Looks NOTHING like a shaft XD it's a fat UFO that had a head-on collision with a stick XD

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

Because T34 is a totally different tank - it's not the same as T-34. T29/T34 was designed to counter Tiger II. T-34 was not.

All of us here know that he is talking about the Soviet T-34, not the American T34 (basically a modified T29).

 

So, there is no confusion here and the American T34 isn't as known as the Soviet T-34. 

while theorically a tiger could fire 2km, according to the german tiger field manual 1200m was the absolute maximum range you should try and engage other tanks. and most of the advice there was to only do it within 500m.

 

 

while t34 would most likely lose to tiger in 1vs1, it's not the same in group vs group because t34's higher mobility allows it to get more tactical advanatge. there are many times where even Tiger II's got ambushed and destroyed by T34s.

 

 

 

 

T-34 wasn't superior to the Tiger, Tiger 2 or the Panzer V Panther in ANY WAY, except for the sheer fact that Red Army could use 10 (heck, even more) for every tank Germans deployed.

 

 

 

 

Actually, not. Since the Tiger (and Tiger 2) were really heavy and not so mobile, a skilled Sherman or T-34 crew could have outflanked them easily, while staying safe.

 

Oh, also, T-34 was the most produced tank of WW2, as in excess of 30,000 were produced.

 

:^)

Edited October 2, 2018 by Total_SkiIl

[gokuMI6 1,290]

keks :D

Nice bro 

[Pythor 1,354]

Almost 400 views and 40+ replies. Nice work 

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

To be honest, I am thinking that the Katyusha rocket launchers were the inspiration for Striker.

 

Debatable though.

[Aigaion 636]

To be honest, I am thinking that the Katyusha rocket launchers were the inspiration for Striker.

 

Debatable though.

they look nothing like a striker :X

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

they look nothing like a striker :X

It is pretty hard to reason that a Russian game would take inspiration from an American anti-armour vehicle.

 

I didn't say it looks like Striker, it sure as heck doesn't. But the main idea behind it, and Striker's accuracy is pretty comparable to Katyusha's.

Edited October 3, 2018 by Total_SkiIl

[Aigaion 636]

It is pretty hard to reason that a Russian game would take inspiration from an American anti-armour vehicle.

 

I didn't say it looks like Striker, it sure as heck doesn't. But the main idea behind it, and Striker's accuracy is pretty comparable to Katyusha's.

ya, I guess i can agree with that, but the actual look of the turret is big part, P.S. the AFT-9 is Chinese 

Edited October 3, 2018 by Aigaion