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Paypal-users are always getting the upperhand when it comes to going against freeplay users, who are unfit. As paypal-users just constantly grow larger by each passing day grinding off freeplay-users who are much vulnerable for the substantial they have compared to paypal-users. My suggestion would be to separate them due to the inequality of how it is when comparing the two.

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Because then what's the point of spending real money for better stuff if you will never have an edge over your competition? This is coming from a f2p player. 

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Because then what's the point of spending real money for better stuff if you will never have an edge over your competition?

Wdym? With it being f2p v f2p no-one will have an edge. and paypal users would just pay even more to get stronger going up against other paypal users. 

 

 

This is coming from a f2p player. 

The irony...

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Because the whole point of spending money on this game is to get an advantage. That's half of how Tanki gets people to buy. Developing Tanki is expensive and the devs need that money.

 

Basically no one would spend money if you separated buyers from non-buyers, and then Tanki would make almost no money. It might seem like it would make the game great at first, but in the long run it's gonna suck once the devs start struggling to pay the costs of running this game.

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Because the whole point of spending money on this game is to get an advantage. That's half of how Tanki gets people to buy. Developing Tanki is expensive and the devs need that money. 

 

 

Basically no one would spend money if you separated buyers from non-buyers, and then Tanki would make almost no money. It might seem like it would make the game great at first, but in the long run it's gonna suck once the devs start struggling to pay the costs of running this game. 

Then that mean no f2p wouldn't even want to play with paypal-users making the game being severely fun, which means less players and no money.

 

 

devs start struggling to pay the costs of running this game. 

So if that's the case, maybe they needa create something to limiting stuff that paypal-users with overly power-ed tanks and supply they can bring in to the battlefield when playing against f2p because, they're practically "godlike" and impossible to defeat. 

 

Ex. a Paypal-user has 1000 supplies of each and all M3's, but their only allowed to use 3 supplies of each and M1's (at the max) when playing up against f2p to make it more fair than just a delusional function. 

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Is this just another term for the already popular 'buyer'? To increase what? Clickbait successful-ness?

 

This has been discussed and brushed aside a lot of times in the forums already, now stop it.

 


 

Oh, and to answer your "buyers are too op, I cannot save nor keep up to them", I am a non-buyer myself with 6 M3s before they even unlock.

 

So...

 

If you are so blatantly refusing to read the Newspaper guides or listen to other experienced players' advice, no one can help you with that.

 

Tanki is NOT a charity, it is a business and it HAS TO make money to stay afloat. Name me a single game developer who is doing it all for charity.

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Then that mean no f2p wouldn't even want to play with paypal-users making the game being severely fun, which means less players and no money.

 

 

So if that's the case, maybe they needa create something to limiting stuff that paypal-users with overly power-ed tanks and supply they can bring in to the battlefield when playing against f2p because, they're practically "godlike" and impossible to defeat. 

 

Ex. a Paypal-user has 1000 supplies of each and all M3's, but their only allowed to use 3 supplies of each and M1's (at the max) when playing up against f2p to make it more fair than just a delusional function. 

Think about what you just said. Not everyone is f2p and not everyone is p2p, as you know. You will never come up against a team that is all p2p or all f2p, therefore no one would be able to use their M2/3...including Marshal and above. There would be no incentive to buy M2/3 since the max that can be used against f2p players are M1s. There are f2p players who have never put a penny into this game that have M3, they would be restricted, too.

 

I see you have an M1 Mag. Knowing you will never come up against a team with all f2p players, would you buy an M2? When you got enough crystals to buy an M2, you would be right back in the forum making the same post, but changing the restriction from M1 to M2. Then when you had enough crystals to buy an M3, you would be right back here asking that the restrictions be lifted. 

 

This is my only paying account. I have other accounts that are not, but I keep up with the missions and I get by okay. Actually, f2p players have more skill than the p2p players, they have more at stake. The f2p player has to think about how to make the kills and still stay alive without using very many supplies or none at all. Keep up with the missions and you will get mostly supplies. At the end of the chain you will receive 4 containers with more supplies, and a lot more crystals. I haven't needed to buy any supplies in over a year, the missions keeps me supplied. 

 

Consider this: Sometimes the containers have gold boxes in them. With the crystals you earn from doing missions, you can buy a pro-pass, create a private battle and drop those gold boxes for yourself and gain 1000 crystals in each. It's like having money in the bank for a rainy day. 

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I don't know because I start to buy with money and I ever play with free-player

I assume you are saying, you never play with free-player. How do you know that? You can't tell if they are buyers or non-buyers just by looking at them. I have some non-buying accounts and keep up with the missions. Those accounts have a fair amount of supplies and crystals. Just by looking at me, you can't tell. Even if you had time to look up everyones profile, you still can't tell.

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I assume you are saying, you never play with free-player. How do you know that? You can't tell if they are buyers or non-buyers just by looking at them. I have some non-buying accounts and keep up with the missions. Those accounts have a fair amount of supplies and crystals. Just by looking at me, you can't tell. Even if you had time to look up everyones profile, you still can't tell.

IDK how I know that but I start to buy yesterday (10 containers and 10 gold boxes). I will maybe be a buyer with this account and non-buyer with other account (@xXx.Facebook78.xXx and )

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Separating players who pay and players who play for free will never happen, there are a few reasons why this is the case.

 

1. It would be like having two separate games. Battles will take longer to generate because now there are less players from a total pool to choose from. 

2. There would be no incentive to buy. Players buy crystals/items with real money to gain a slight advantage over the normal player. This could be by speeding up game progress through Premium Account, or an increase in power through an endless supply of Supplies.

3. How would you determine this 'split'? Would it be a certain about of money? eg $80 or just anything from $1 or more? This basically just creates the same problem, but instead of Free Players vs Paying Players it is Little Buying Players vs Large Buying Players. 

 

Basically, doing this will cause Tanki to lose income and right now the negatives outweigh the positives. Besides the gap between buyers and free players is nowhere near as large as it used to be. 

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Is this just another term for the already popular 'buyer'? To increase what? Clickbait successful-ness?

 

This has been discussed and brushed aside a lot of times in the forums already, now stop it.

 


 

Oh, and to answer your "buyers are too op, I cannot save nor keep up to them", I am a non-buyer myself with 6 M3s before they even unlock.

 

So...

 

If you are so blatantly refusing to read the Newspaper guides or listen to other experienced players' advice, no one can help you with that.

 

Tanki is NOT a charity, it is a business and it HAS TO make money to stay afloat. Name me a single game developer who is doing it all for charity.

I'm new to the forums. So if you say so then please provide other newspaper guides etc. you were blankly referring too.

 

As for the rest I don't get what your trying to say. f2p can't keep up with paypal-users because for ex. for what paypal-users have is nearly impossible for f2p to reach. Like 250 loads of supplies each. F2p would then just have to relay on gold boxes (which clearly isn't enough), or saving crystals <- (what makes you think I haven't tried that) etc.and buyers just get those crystals easy. You know f2p work hard to get where they are only to be taken the fun out by an unfair paypal-user who is buys to earn an advantage over weaker opponents? And if your so skilled at this game like you say then provide proof of ways how f2p can counter paypal-users. 

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I'm new to the forums. So if you say so then please provide other newspaper guides etc. you were blankly referring too.

In this case I strongly recommend that you check out some topics in the Welcome! section, as they will help you get to know how our forum works :)

 

As for the rest I don't get what your trying to say. f2p can't keep up with paypal-users because for ex. for what paypal-users have is nearly impossible for f2p to reach. Like 250 loads of supplies each. F2p would then just have to relay on gold boxes (which clearly isn't enough), or saving crystals

It's definitely very hard to compete against "buyers" (that's what people normally call "paypal-users" here, by the way) if you are a free player, but it's possible. You just have to be extremely careful about how you play, where you get your crystals and how you spend them. The three biggest tips for a free player are:

  • Only play enough every day to complete the three daily missions. If you play more, you will waste supplies.
  • Only spend crystals during 50% sales and unless the sale on micro-upgrades is 50/70, don't buy more than one step at a time.
  • Don't upgrade more than two turrets and a hull. Choose your favourite equipment and stick with it.
  • Try to do things like contests and participate in giveaways
  • Do consider purchasing things like special offers. Offers for less than $5 will let you make a small helpful boost to your tank stats and help you get through the low ranks. And I feel like buying $15 worth of stuff is a fair amount for a F2P game.

It's hard at low ranks due to rewards being quite small and items being cheap, meaning that $50 gives a huge advantage at Sergeant, compared to $50 at Legend.

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  • Claim 1 mission daily, so you have reserves when you cant play. Containers give biggest income
  • Only buy what you need, dont show off with insane garage shopping
  • Upgrade all of your equipment that you use by 1 step on 50% sale and NEVER USE SPEED UP
  • Try to do things like contests and participate in giveaways
  • Do not participate in exp-earning events (STAR WEEK) as it will signicantly reduce your xp/crystal ratio

 

just changed it a little bit

Basically aim towards low xp (like collect boxes / capture points / earn 50 crystals) and collect containers

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You're also forgetting people who pay money (LIKE ME OBVIOUSLY) also have to compete against another buyer who also has maxed out equipment in the game.

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I'm new to the forums. So if you say so then please provide other newspaper guides etc. you were blankly referring too.

 

 

I apologise for acting so blunt and brash - this argument just triggers me now as it has been spammed all over the forums for a long time.

 

Welcome to the EN forums!

 

I suggest you take a look at this guide by @GrandExecutioner, its got all the details you would need for a while. But if you are hungry for more guides, just please shoot me a forum Private Message (we call it PM here ).  :)

 

If you need some suggestions regarding equipment choices, please ask here.

 


 

 

 

 

As for the rest I don't get what your trying to say. f2p can't keep up with paypal-users because for ex. for what paypal-users have is nearly impossible for f2p to reach. Like 250 loads of supplies each. F2p would then just have to relay on gold boxes (which clearly isn't enough), or saving crystals <- (what makes you think I haven't tried that) etc.and buyers just get those crystals easy. You know f2p work hard to get where they are only to be taken the fun out by an unfair paypal-user who is buys to earn an advantage over weaker opponents? And if your so skilled at this game like you say then provide proof of ways how f2p can counter paypal-users.

 

I just told you, I have done it and others can do it. Just read Newspaper and Wiki, ask for suggestions in appropriate topics and you are all set matey. ;)

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I'm new to the forums. So if you say so then please provide other newspaper guides etc. you were blankly referring too.

 

As for the rest I don't get what your trying to say. f2p can't keep up with paypal-users because for ex. for what paypal-users have is nearly impossible for f2p to reach. Like 250 loads of supplies each. F2p would then just have to relay on gold boxes (which clearly isn't enough), or saving crystals <- (what makes you think I haven't tried that) etc.and buyers just get those crystals easy. You know f2p work hard to get where they are only to be taken the fun out by an unfair paypal-user who is buys to earn an advantage over weaker opponents? And if your so skilled at this game like you say then provide proof of ways how f2p can counter paypal-users. 

Of course buyers have some advantages, especially in early ranks where they can quickly upgrade some OP kits.  But those players will quickly rank beyond you and will eventually meet players that have similar equipment to them.

 

If you manage your resources properly you can compete.

I have a Lt. Colonel account with > 3000 of each supply and around 2000 RK.  Never bought anything with real $.

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Basically Cabbage Roll's edit on mafs post..

 

 

Just play sparingly, participate in question of the week contests from the vlog.

 

Try to reach week 10 in your mission chains. Gives you 4 containers.

 

Don't participate in star week hunts: the rewards are just garbage compared to the amount of hours or days or even weeks you have spent to get to that point. Plus that the amount of hours or days of your life that you ain't getting back.

 

 

And if want an XP combo, don't buy the m1 versions, instead wait a bit longer for m2 version of them because unlocks 5 ranks later, plus it's a bit cheaper to go from m0 to m2 than going from m0 to m1 and from m1 to m2.

 

Buy equipment on sales if you have anything planned.

 

Not a bad idea to have a calculator or an app on your phone nearby.

 

 

And check here if you want to compare prices. :)

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As for the rest I don't get what your trying to say. f2p can't keep up with paypal-users because for ex. for what paypal-users have is nearly impossible for f2p to reach. Like 250 loads of supplies each. F2p would then just have to relay on gold boxes (which clearly isn't enough), or saving crystals <- (what makes you think I haven't tried that) etc.and buyers just get those crystals easy. You know f2p work hard to get where they are only to be taken the fun out by an unfair paypal-user who is buys to earn an advantage over weaker opponents? And if your so skilled at this game like you say then provide proof of ways how f2p can counter paypal-users. 

Do missions, get drugs, and get m1 smoky (VERY op at your rank) and start micro-upgrading your smoky/titan.

 

 

I hate these kinds of "Road-to-legend" buyer accounts, as they are made by brain-dead youtoubers who only care about getting a couple subscribers while making many new players quit.

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Plenty of ways to be able to compete with Buyers, it's your own fault if you spend your crystals unwisely. And you do realize that the ONLY reason anyone can play this game is because of Buyers right? Without people buying stuff there would be no money to keep up the servers, pay the employees of Tanki Online, ect.......

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