Declined Account Blocking

[u812ic 1,629]

I've seen comments about sharing with a friend or someone you trust. Don't be so sure they wouldn't say something on your account that they darn well wouldn't say on their own.

 

Drop 10 gold boxes? Why not, you have plenty. 

 

You're trying to save up for an M3 turret. Your friend doesn't like that turret and thinks your dumb for saving for it. He gets on your account and spends your crystals on the turret he likes and thinks you should buy. "Hey, man, I was just trying to help you out. You'll see I'm right." 

 

Practical jokes are common among friends, but not all practical jokes are funny. Temptation does funny things to people, even friends. 

[Pakistani 24]

Break rules = ban, understandable.

They have that rule in the first place. That is what I wish to change.

 

If we lose our accounts because we shared it with the wrong guy, yes that is our fault. If someone steals our account, you may not return it. That is our mistake.

 

That rule just, shouldn't be there. This is all that I am saying. And even if it is there, the punishment is too severe. and you can see how it is turning out for people.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

 

Just because a lot of people violate rules does not mean that it should be ignored.

... didn't you say that despite the fact that it harms the game, creating alternate accounts to bully new players can't be made an offence because a lot of people do it? 

[Pakistani 24]

... didn't you say that despite the fact that it harms the game, creating alternate accounts to bully new players can't be made an offence because a lot of people do it? 

There are lots of things that are wrong or unnecessary. How I see it to be is that the ones in power at times misuse it just because they can and they are a bit stubborn about it. 

 

How I feel and tell myself too is that if you don't adopt to advancements, the world will leave you behind.

 

You copied battle pass from Fortnite / PUBG, they allow sharing accounts. Why don't you copy that huh? 

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

There are lots of things that are wrong or unnecessary. How I see it to be is that the ones in power at times misuse it just because they can and they are a bit stubborn about it. 

 

How I feel and tell myself too is that if you don't adopt to advancements, the world will leave you behind.

 

You copied battle pass from Fortnite / PUBG, they allow sharing accounts. Why don't you copy that huh? 

i don't know about the devs... but for mods i think that they are selective about changing rules based on wat they do themselves... so for account sharing they know thir friends don't do it/ hide the fact that they do it very well so they insist that it is harmful... whereas for creating accounts to trample new players they have fellow mods who oepnly do it so they refuse to admit that new rules should be implemented to ban their friends. 

[Pakistani 24]

One word - Corruption.

 

Corruption everywhere.

[Maf 32,300]

... didn't you say that despite the fact that it harms the game, creating alternate accounts to bully new players can't be made an offence because a lot of people do it? 

I feel like you're twisting my words a bit, or perhaps my wording was incorrect. The main difference is that account sharing IS a rule and it was there since the beginning, so it should be enforced even if a lot of people do it, but creating alternate accounts is NOT a rule, so adding one against it now would be difficult, not to mention that it's hard to prove whether or not the accounts belongs to the same person.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

I feel like you're twisting my words a bit, or perhaps my wording was incorrect. 

my english is not good so it could be my fault. but i am definately not doing it on purpose. 

 

 

 

not to mention that it's hard to prove whether or not the accounts belongs to the same person.

and how do they prove whether the account was shared between 2 people or the guy simply took a plane to another country to use his account? 

 

 

 

account sharing IS a rule and it was there since the beginning, so it should be enforced even if a lot of people do it, but creating alternate accounts is NOT a rule, so adding one against it now would be difficult

would be difficult, yes... but should it be done? yes it should. you seem to deny that (or at least with my poor english that is what i think)

[CabbageRoll 3,018]

At least we can still make a new account in tanki because all progress is lost, as opposed to 5 year old minecraft kids ip banning for using non english language so you say goodbye to their crappy server. Tanki has its unique benefits...

[Guest Maserati]

To topic owner,

 

Despite what you will say or you are saying now. With my previous experiences, if you are blocked for sharing, support is actually LENIENT and does ACTUALLY give player's another "chance" or a BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT dependent on the circumstance because sometimes, it could be very easily that you were blocked wrongly.

 

If your account has a bad karma, or already have committed violations in the past, then they will know that you are actually a violator and deserve a punishment.

 

Also, about why account sharing is bad? I guess you never played another game other than Tanki. It's prohibited across the majority of multiplayer online games, especially eSport heavy games. But, you are getting unfair advantages, compared to a normal player. There is also the idea that when account theft is brought up, how would you verify the correct owner? You are disrupting balances which you should not, thus it is a permanent block for sharing.

 

This is my understanding, I hope I helped if anyone understood wrongly.

[Maf 32,300]

and how do they prove whether the account was shared between 2 people or the guy simply took a plane to another country to use his account? 

i don't know their exact methods, but I'm pretty sure they check the time and location. If the IP changes to a location hundreds of kilometers away and the time difference is 30 minutes, then it was obviously accessed by two different people from different locations. Although I don't know how they can tell the difference between actual location change and a VPN.

[Pakistani 24]

i don't know their exact methods, but I'm pretty sure they check the time and location. If the IP changes to a location hundreds of kilometers away and the time difference is 30 minutes, then it was obviously accessed by two different people from different locations. Although I don't know how they can tell the difference between actual location change and a VPN.

And what if you use a VPN?

 

Their exact message is

 

If IP changes within short interval of time, block

 

and VPN does that and tons of people use VPN and VPN is a person's basic right if he is using internet. So many flaws in it.

[Guest Maserati]

And what if you use a VPN?

 

Their exact message is

 

If IP changes within short interval of time, block

 

and VPN does that and tons of people use VPN and VPN is a person's basic right if he is using internet. So many flaws in it.

No. The way a person uses a VPN and the way a person is sharing is totally different. You cannot compare the 2. 

 

They won't block for a single change in IP, nor will they block with a comfortable basis that the player is sharing. It is quite distinguishable to see if a player is sharing, for example, there will be more than 1 IP. All IPs that are logged on to that account, will also be matching other accounts belonging to the game. There could be server disconnections when you are logging into a player who is playing. There are a lot of factors which are taken into account. You shouldn't try to argue your way out, and try to make yourself look like you did nothing wrong. This is why they don't tend to give chances because they get people who try to mangle with the rules and play in their benefit. 

 

With a VPN, you will have your IP. You will then get a new IP. It won't be a daily consistent change, it will perhaps be a one-off. Unless you play with both your VPN and normal IP. Then, if you are using a VPN. The address from the VPN is actually given to you by the provider, and would not be logged onto another account in this game. Like I wrote, there are numerous factors. (Don't ask how I know, I just know due to past experiences in dealing with this matter, and I know sometimes it is unfair, but it is life. I've also had an account from a friend which was hijacked and then blocked).

 

If you need to play with a VPN for whatever reason, you should know the consequences and should know how to prove you actually did not violate any rules. As far as I know, no one has been put in the block for using a VPN that remained blocked.

[Guest]

Just deal with it. 

[Pakistani 24]

No. The way a person uses a VPN and the way a person is sharing is totally different. You cannot compare the 2. 

 

They won't block for a single change in IP, nor will they block with a comfortable basis that the player is sharing. It is quite distinguishable to see if a player is sharing, for example, there will be more than 1 IP. All IPs that are logged on to that account, will also be matching other accounts belonging to the game. There could be server disconnections when you are logging into a player who is playing. There are a lot of factors which are taken into account. You shouldn't try to argue your way out, and try to make yourself look like you did nothing wrong. This is why they don't tend to give chances because they get people who try to mangle with the rules and play in their benefit. 

 

With a VPN, you will have your IP. You will then get a new IP. It won't be a daily consistent change, it will perhaps be a one-off. Unless you play with both your VPN and normal IP. Then, if you are using a VPN. The address from the VPN is actually given to you by the provider, and would not be logged onto another account in this game. Like I wrote, there are numerous factors. (Don't ask how I know, I just know due to past experiences in dealing with this matter, and I know sometimes it is unfair, but it is life. I've also had an account from a friend which was hijacked and then blocked).

 

If you need to play with a VPN for whatever reason, you should know the consequences and should know how to prove you actually did not violate any rules. As far as I know, no one has been put in the block for using a VPN that remained blocked.

Here I am. Blocked because i was sharing a VPN. Anything you can say on that?

 

I asked for their permission before using it.

 

Now if someone shares their VPN with their tanki friend and VPN is a premium VPN with a residential IP (static) then? huh? no account sharing but there is same IP on both accounts. Blocked? fair? is that fair now? 

 

And are they smart enough to see it? No. Just same repeated messages irrespective of how much I try to explain.

People or individuals became moderators or gained official rank status AFTER sharing their accounts. If this is such a crime why were they forgiven or excused?

Answer me mods

Why corruption then? Block them. You check their account IPs or u used to atleast. U know it was sharing, why didn't you block them? 

(And I am saying this from personal experience, I was the one the official status guy shared his account with)

 

*Misuse of power* 

 

[Guest Maserati]

Here I am. Blocked because i was sharing a VPN. Anything you can say on that?

 

I asked for their permission before using it.

 

Now if someone shares their VPN with their tanki friend and VPN is a premium VPN with a residential IP (static) then? huh? no account sharing but there is same IP on both accounts. Blocked? fair? is that fair now? 

 

And are they smart enough to see it? No. Just same repeated messages irrespective of how much I try to explain.

People or individuals became moderators or gained official rank status AFTER sharing their accounts. If this is such a crime why were they forgiven or excused?

Answer me mods

Why corruption then? Block them. You check their account IPs or u used to atleast. U know it was sharing, why didn't you block them? 

(And I am saying this from personal experience, I was the one the official status guy shared his account with)

 

*Misuse of power* 

 

 

Just want to clarify, not many VPNs actually offer static IPs. So, hypothetically if you used such a VPN, it could look like you did share your account. I will agree that maybe you will be blocked, but you have the chance of getting unblocked very easily if you could prove that you did not share. Mistakes do happen, but they are very easily fixed, and if you do talk to customer support, you should always approach nicely if something wrong has happened.

 

This is nothing about corruption. Both administrators and moderators in this game, have nothing to do with blocking accounts, except for Battle moderators where they punish in-game violators; saboteurs, hackers,etc..

 

The team that deals with blocking accounts for sharing, along with 100s of other things, are actual employees of the game. They have a lot of things to do on a daily basis, I doubt they will be checking every account.

 

And if you can prove a moderator shared their account with 100% evidence, I'm sure you can report it to their administrator who will take appropriate measures, if not at least do something at the very minimum.

 

EDIT: Were you really blocked on sharing a VPN? Or, from what the OP said, you were blocked for sharing, and that you want this rule to be removed. In my opinion, you shouldn't try to find loopholes but should try to take a more diplomatic approach

[Maf 32,300]

My friend has an iron, I don't. I would go to him to press my clothes. Oh noooo, the iron company would sue us cz I can't use his iron. If I do, I wont buy another iron?

This is a very strange and inaccurate comparison. A more accurate one would be if you are given a service for free (for example, gym membership), but only you are allowed to use it. So by letting other people use it you are increasing the maintenance costs for that item, but the organisation that provides that service does not gain any benefit from all this extra use, or it loses profits because people just take advantage of your free service instead of buying it for themselves.

 

Permanent block? that isn't a joke for someone who spent 5 years. You take it away just like that. Worst I heard was hands getting cut for stealing... this is execution for deliberate sharing of account. You have surpassed Iran tanki. This is what I have to say.

 

I actually completely agree with you there. Account sharing seems like such a honest mistake that anyone could make (like letting my friend use my acc to do missions while I'm away for a week, or letting them try the game when they ask), yet the punishment for it is the most sever the game has to offer. I just don't understand the logic for this.

[loginci 877]

This is a very strange and inaccurate comparison. A more accurate one would be if you are given a service for free (for example, gym membership), but only you are allowed to use it. So by letting other people use it you are increasing the maintenance costs for that item, but the organisation that provides that service does not gain any benefit from all this extra use, or it loses profits because people just take advantage of your free service instead of buying it for themselves.

You see one pack chips which include one kilogram of potato chip, its price is 10$. You also see one pack chips which include 250-gram chips for 5$. Would you buy the big one with your 4 friends, 2,5$ for each, or buy the small one and eat it yourself? It's the same thing with this, I am going to buy a Netflix premium HD for 41 Turkish liras per month, with 3 friends, each will pay 10 Turkish liras. So I won't buy a 480p for 15 Turkish liras, I will pay 10 Turkish liras for 1080p, which is a clearly better choice. And don't worry, all organisations think about this, they don't make prices before thinking this, they know what will happen.

[Maf 32,300]

You see one pack chips which include one kilogram of potato chip, its price is 10$. You also see one pack chips which include 250-gram chips for 5$. Would you buy the big one with your 4 friends, 2,5$ for each, or buy the small one and eat it yourself? It's the same thing with this, I am going to buy a Netflix premium HD for 41 Turkish liras per month, with 3 friends, each will pay 10 Turkish liras. So I won't buy a 480p for 15 Turkish liras, I will pay 10 Turkish liras for 1080p, which is a clearly better choice. And don't worry, all organisations think about this, they don't make prices before thinking this, they know what will happen.

That's still not quite like Tanki, because in your example you are using consumable products. If in Tanki you could only buy turrets and hulls for an hour, play for an hour and then have to buy them again, then yes - I don't see any problem with sharing accounts, since more users would mean more purchases and the same amount of revenue for Tanki. But since you can buy items for free and they stay in your garage forever, sharing becomes bad for the economy.

[loginci 877]

That's still not quite like Tanki, because in your example you are using consumable products. If in Tanki you could only buy turrets and hulls for an hour, play for an hour and then have to buy them again, then yes - I don't see any problem with sharing accounts, since more users would mean more purchases and the same amount of revenue for Tanki. But since you can buy items for free and they stay in your garage forever, sharing becomes bad for the economy.

Okay, let's accept that sharing is bad for the economy. But can you please tell me the reason why developers removed 1500 supplies-kit from the garage and moved it to Shop? And like this is not enough, they also made some trash called ''Drones'' that only works with batteries. Paying 300 crystal for one minute? And also upgrade this drone? Nah sir, sorry. Everything they do is for money, don't make me list the updates they made for money that affects the economy and creates a big difference between buyers and non-buyers. 

 

I will admit that buyers should have an extra advantage against non-buyers since they spend money on this game, but a big difference like this cannot be accepted. If you even play this game much, you will never ever reach the status buyers are on. 

[Maf 32,300]

But can you please tell me the reason why developers removed 1500 supplies-kit from the garage and moved it to Shop?

The offer was too generous and had adverse effect on the game's economy.

 

I said this before - Alternativa Games is a private company focused on generating profit. Obviously their goal is to make money, so a lot of the updates are there to generate more revenue. However, a big part of that ultimate goal (to make more money) is to make their projects more popular and increase the player base, so for that reason quite a lot of updates are there to improve the quality of the game and make it more interesting, which is good for the players. 

[loginci 877]

The offer was too generous and had adverse effect on the game's economy.

 

I said this before - Alternativa Games is a private company focused on generating profit. Obviously their goal is to make money, so a lot of the updates are there to generate more revenue. However, a big part of that ultimate goal (to make more money) is to make their projects more popular and increase the player base, so for that reason quite a lot of updates are there to improve the quality of the game and make it more interesting, which is good for the players. 

To make their project more popular: 20k active players :D 

 

They do updates to improve the game: Yeah we really liked drone update :D we can't even use them

 

They already did lots of updates that force you to buy crystals.

 

Let's take a look at what you must do if you want to get a good tank.

 

5 %50 modules : 2,5 million crystals

 

2 M4 turrets : 1 million crystals

 

2 M4 hulls : 1 million crystals

 

important alterations belonged to them: 500k 

 

at least 1000 of each supply including drone batteries: 500k

 

Didn't even count the upgrades of drones, still equal 5 million crystals. 

 

Do you ever think we can get this amount within a year without paying? Trash tbh.

[SageoftheSixPaths 215]

Disclaimer : "you" doesnt refer to anyone in particular, it's just a placeholder which stands for no one and I offer my sincere apologies to anyone deeply offended by feeling that they are being implicitly referred. If they do after all this, then that is solely their fault.

There are several games that don't give buyers a huge advantage and even non buyers enjoy the games. You can block me, issue warning, do all the micro management you want and even run from the truth but you cannot hide from it.

[Pakistani 24]

Just want to clarify, not many VPNs actually offer static IPs. So, hypothetically if you used such a VPN, it could look like you did share your account. I will agree that maybe you will be blocked, but you have the chance of getting unblocked very easily if you could prove that you did not share. Mistakes do happen, but they are very easily fixed, and if you do talk to customer support, you should always approach nicely if something wrong has happened.

 

This is nothing about corruption. Both administrators and moderators in this game, have nothing to do with blocking accounts, except for Battle moderators where they punish in-game violators; saboteurs, hackers,etc..

 

The team that deals with blocking accounts for sharing, along with 100s of other things, are actual employees of the game. They have a lot of things to do on a daily basis, I doubt they will be checking every account.

 

And if you can prove a moderator shared their account with 100% evidence, I'm sure you can report it to their administrator who will take appropriate measures, if not at least do something at the very minimum.

 

EDIT: Were you really blocked on sharing a VPN? Or, from what the OP said, you were blocked for sharing, and that you want this rule to be removed. In my opinion, you shouldn't try to find loopholes but should try to take a more diplomatic approach

They don't care for honest answers. They don't care for their word. The word means nothing to them.

 

Statis IPs are there. You can buy residential IPs on the internet and it would stay the exact same as long as only one user is connected to it. Now if I connect to it and I play on my account and then I turn it off. 

Another time, someone else connects to the same IP but uses his own account or other accounts and so on. Now  not always would I use the VPN sometimes mistake could happen where I realize after hours that my VPN was on / off or I am in a gold rain and I am lagging so surely, why would I care about the VPN then? its not something we think of at that stage so I would turn it off.

 

 

No one in the people above knows how it feels so of course, you wont understand my hatred towards them. All they have to say is 

account return is impossible

we do not provide this information

 

Time will come for the ones who misjudge. 

I will not forgive nor forget ! Hopefully.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

What does this VPN BS have to do with anything? You literally admitted to sharing accounts. Congratulations, you broke the rules.