Changes in battles & Massacre map

[loginci 877]

7 minutes is way too short, and so are the winning conditions. Had a earn 400 crystals mission and it took me 4 or 5 battles to complete it when it normally took me 2 or 3 battles.

With the new system (7 mins), the matchmaking got better and it became easier to earn stars. They are trying to make a better MM...

[Viking4s 10,791]

Sandal and Red Alert are bigger then Sandbox, no? Red Alert is, for sure. And Sandal & Red Alert have more places to hide.

Sandbox MM we are talking about here, and it is huge now.

[RootyTootBoy 17]

With the new system (7 mins), the matchmaking got better and it became easier to earn stars. They are trying to make a better MM...

Matchmaking still blows.  Hate it hate it.  Play much less because of it.  But I'm glad they did it before I put too much money into the game.  I won't put another dime in for a game that I have to wait 2-3 minutes to play 7. 

[loginci 877]

Matchmaking still blows.  Hate it hate it.  Play much less because of it.  But I'm glad they did it before I put too much money into the game.  I won't put another dime in for a game that I have to wait 2-3 minutes to play 7. 

Wow, really, no. I wait for max. 30 secs, then I already find a game. 

[FuddleKiller 44]

Battles are too short!! We want at least the possibility to choose between different lenght, for example 8-15-30 minutes

No no no.  No choices for you.  No choice of battles, Tanki will do that for you.  No choice of maps, you get what you get, and the number is limited.  Tanki will choose your team, your map, your wait time and will alter your equipment at will without warning.  And you will spend half the time playing, and half waiting to play. 

 

And You'll LIKE it. 

Wow, really, no. I wait for max. 30 secs, then I already find a game. 

Good for you.  I often sit waiting until the time is expired.  I had three accounts yesterday and NONE could get into a battle for 15 minutes. So I quit.  And the more they go in this direction, the more it's making me just want to quit for good. 

[N00BTank3r 11]

every update is in the wrong way. All players choices are reduced. In the past we could chose terrain, chose time of the game played, have a choice in opponents rank in a  battle you d like to play and so on. Now few maps are available, friends are difficult to follow, make a battle is long gone and fun of the game the same. it is sad to see that less and less players are joining

1000% THIS^^^

 

I started spending money on Tanki (I have lots of accounts) but after they started announcing the matchmaking etc I put any more purchases on hold.  Glad I did.  The game has just gone downhill.... no CHOICES for CUSTOMERS.  The maps are limited, you can't choose them anyway, you can't have a group of friends play together easily, if you try it increases the wait time EVEN MORE, and you spend more time waiting than playing oftentimes.  

 

If I'd spent big $$ on this game I'd be FURIOUS.  But since I didn't I can just not play, as it seems lots of others are deciding as well. 

[Guest]

Sandbox MM we are talking about here, and it is huge now.

It's still terrible tbh and honestly I've never liked Sandbox anyway. 

 

Would you rather see Sandbox or this map in MM?

 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

With the new system (7 mins), the matchmaking got better and it became easier to earn stars. They are trying to make a better MM...

I don't give a Damn about stars. I just want better battles.

[wolverine848 13,097]

With the new system (7 mins), the matchmaking got better and it became easier to earn stars. They are trying to make a better MM...

Half the battles end in < 7 minutes due to lowered victory conditions.  Much harder to finish some missions or even qualify for 1 star.

 

Have seen battles end where half the losing team got ZERO stars because battle ended quickly.

 

Should be min 1 star if you stay to end of battle - else more and more players will just exit.  Then only top 3-4 players on even winning team will get decent scores - cant score if there is no-one to kill.

 

When they lowered the victory conditions the Devs failed to consider many games will cause mission problems.  The mission parameters need to be lowered.

 

Wow, really, no. I wait for max. 30 secs, then I already find a game. 

Have many instances where it take 2-4 attempts at 40-45 seconds apiece to get into a match. 

Even then, one team starts with more players than the other team and caps flags during the unbalance.

 

Frankly it was easier with the Battle List.  At least I could see if there were battles in the mode I needed. If not, search for diff mode.

[jjg_the_dark 455]

Finished mine in 3 days. It's not too hard but I played maybe at least 8 battles during each of those 3 days. Definitely not good for a player who plays 1-2 battles per day. 

thanks for understanding! Some of us do not invest too much time in this game anymore because it is not as fun as it used to be. consequently, some of the missions seem unreasonable.

[jjg_the_dark 455]

Half the battles end in < 7 minutes due to lowered victory conditions.  Much harder to finish some missions or even qualify for 1 star.

 

Have seen battles end where half the losing team got ZERO stars because battle ended quickly.

 

Should be min 1 star if you stay to end of battle - else more and more players will just exit.  Then only top 3-4 players on even winning team will get decent scores - cant score if there is no-one to kill.

 

When they lowered the victory conditions the Devs failed to consider many games will cause mission problems.  The mission parameters need to be lowered.

 

Have many instances where it take 2-4 attempts at 40-45 seconds apiece to get into a match. 

Even then, one team starts with more players than the other team and caps flags during the unbalance.

 

Frankly it was easier with the Battle List.  At least I could see if there were battles in the mode I needed. If not, search for diff mode.

Exactly! I have been to quite a few battles after the latest update that lasted under 2 minutes because it dumped me into an unbalanced battle. I did not even had a chance to get settled in to the game and it was over! I hope people here read all the comments and then think twice before they dump any real money in to this crap

[Viking4s 10,791]

It's still terrible tbh and honestly I've never liked Sandbox anyway. 

Would you rather see Sandbox or this map in MM?

 

 

I think you can have both. A fresh map would be nice to have.

Venice is a good name, I think you need a few more bridges. 

[blutakix 81]

With the new system (7 mins), the matchmaking got better and it became easier to earn stars. They are trying to make a better MM...

They can make the BEST POSSIBLE MatchMaker by GETTING RID of it!

 

MatchMaker:

 

1) Took away choice of maps,

2) Took away choice of battles,

3) DRAMATICALLY increased the amount of time to get into a battle,

4) Did NOT make battles more balanced,

5) INCREASED the number of people who leave games early,

6) Introduced new bugs (as in the difficulty in joining Assault or Rugby games),

7) Introduced Time-Out errors, and,

8) Encouraged people to leave games on maps they didn't want to play, or

9)Were HOPELESSLY lost, or

10) Only had seconds to play.

 

MatchMaker does NOTHING GOOD.  We even have more "mults" as people try to fulfill the ridiculous "finish battle" missions!

MatchMaker increases waiting time from about 1% of Tanki time to about 25% of Tanki time.

That's right... before, you could spend an hour playing Tanki, and get about 59 minutes of battle time in.

With MatchMaker, FIFTEEN MINUTES of the hour are spent just... waiting.  Unless you hit a bug.  Then you could spend 50% or more of your time waiting.

 

The addition of "overdrive" and "finish battle" missions is PURE DESPERATION on the part of Tanki to prevent people from leaving battles early.  This is necessary because MatchMaker puts people in battles THEY DID NOT CHOOSE against (in many cases) VASTLY SUPERIOR FORCES (think 4-star generals versus Lieutenants!), and often just turns you into target practice by making YOU the object of massive spawn kill in a game that only has 2 minutes to go.

 

MATCHMAKER MUST DIE!!!

[n99b 4]

As an example of what matchmaker does, take a look at this.

 

 

Yup!  Marshalls and 4-star generals against Majors... and even a Captain!

 

Oh - but it's so much more "balanced".

I think you can have both. A fresh map would be nice to have.

Venice is a good name, I think you need a few more bridges. 

I'd rather be able to CHOOSE the map I play... the way it was before matchmaker.

Exactly! I have been to quite a few battles after the latest update that lasted under 2 minutes because it dumped me into an unbalanced battle. I did not even had a chance to get settled in to the game and it was over! I hope people here read all the comments and then think twice before they dump any real money in to this crap

I know I won't be paying anything until matchmaker is gone.

Could be a very long time. I know that.  Now Tanki does too!

Edited February 7, 2019 by n99b

[n99b 4]

Personally I like Massacre, Sandbox and Sandal - you need some variation in terms of map style or it's boring. I wish even that they didn't change Massacre as it was a very unique map, but there are advantages to the new map so I don't care really.

Eliminating the craters in massacre and adding the buildings was a stupid thing to do.

If Tanki is going to screw up the maps the least they could do is make BOTH maps active - like "Massacre 1" and "Massacre 2" and have an option to set your preference.  So someone could go in, check "Massacre 1" but not "Massacre 2" and they'd never have to play the new (crappy) map.

[lssimo 1,559]

As an example of what matchmaker does, take a look at this.

 

 

 

 

Yup!  Marshalls and 4-star generals against Majors... and even a Captain!

 

Oh - but it's so much more "balanced".

I'd rather be able to CHOOSE the map I play... the way it was before matchmaker.

I know I won't be paying anything until matchmaker is gone.

Could be a very long time. I know that.  Now Tanki does too!

The rank bracket seems to be 9 ranks wide. When there are fewer players in the system it's really bad.

 

When you are one of the lower ranks, it's better to leave. And don't feel bad for leaving because it's actually better for the team you're leaving behind.

[Guest]

I think you can have both. A fresh map would be nice to have.

Venice is a good name, I think you need a few more bridges. 

I'll take that into consideration.  :)

[Dark.Angel 63]

As an example of what matchmaker does, take a look at this.

 

 

 

 

Yup!  Marshalls and 4-star generals against Majors... and even a Captain!

 

Oh - but it's so much more "balanced".

I'd rather be able to CHOOSE the map I play... the way it was before matchmaker.

I know I won't be paying anything until matchmaker is gone.

Could be a very long time. I know that.  Now Tanki does too!

 

 

how do u add an image like that?

[Toby 2,938]

how do u add an image like that?

→ How to post a screenshot?

[SporkZilla 1,775]

Massacre was one of my favourite maps when there was a nice mix of turrets (and no Rails), but it's been ruined.

 

I still think (was sceptical at first) MM is great idea in theory, suits a casual player like me and it has forced me to learn all of the maps. I've got a lot better because of it.

 

I just leave if I'm the lowest ranked player and can't compete (was the only 3rd Lt. in a Sandal CP full of Major + Firebirds with compact tanks recently).

[Viking4s 10,791]

Yup!  Marshalls and 4-star generals against Majors... and even a Captain!

 

I'd rather be able to CHOOSE the map I play... the way it was before matchmaker.

I know I won't be paying anything until matchmaker is gone.

Could be a very long time. I know that.  Now Tanki does too!

Ranks in battle has been wide like this before MM, however it is true that it offered more often a narrower rank range. You can blame the group option for a large part of those battle.

 

Before MM you would have found always the same 5 maps over and over again, that was a very restrictive choice. Now it is true you can't choose your map but you have more variety over maps: about 30 maps are available in Matchmaking. Unfortunately you can't currently have both system, maybe with more player this would be possible to allow some sort of choice but it would be at the detriment of variety of map.

 

Pro-battles is what Tanki used to be, so you can still play there.

[Dark.Angel 63]

→ How to post a screenshot?

thanks!

 

my look at the scores .....

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Ranks in battle has been wide like this before MM, however it is true that it offered more often a narrower rank range. You can blame the group option for a large part of those battle.

 

Before MM you would have found always the same 5 maps over and over again, that was a very restrictive choice. Now it is true you can't choose your map but you have more variety over maps: about 30 maps are available in Matchmaking. Unfortunately you can't currently have both system, maybe with more player this would be possible to allow some sort of choice but it would be at the detriment of variety of map.

 

Pro-battles is what Tanki used to be, so you can still play there.

I never only found five maps...there were many.  There were even way more than five very popular maps...how can your memory be so distorted?  It was not a restrictive choice...and now, with MM, there is NO CHOICE at all.

[Viking4s 10,791]

I never only found five maps...there were many.  There were even way more than five very popular maps...how can your memory be so distorted?  It was not a restrictive choice...and now, with MM, there is NO CHOICE at all.

It use to look like that

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Fortunately you have choices in Pro when you are bored with MM.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Ranks in battle has been wide like this before MM, however it is true that it offered more often a narrower rank range. You can blame the group option for a large part of those battle.

 

Before MM you would have found always the same 5 maps over and over again, that was a very restrictive choice. Now it is true you can't choose your map but you have more variety over maps: about 30 maps are available in Matchmaking. Unfortunately you can't currently have both system, maybe with more player this would be possible to allow some sort of choice but it would be at the detriment of variety of map.

 

Pro-battles is what Tanki used to be, so you can still play there.

Before MM you had 2 options.

 

Option 1: battle list.

You can scroll down the list for map you like. Click on battle and you can see the ranks.  Spread too wide = avoid.

 

Option 2: Hit Create battle

When you hit battle button you create a new battle based on default rank brackets.  This will never create a battle for you that is 8-9 ranks above you.  It was always 2-5 ranks below and 2-5 ranks above, depending on your rank.  Might be total 9-rank spread - but you were always toward the middle of that spread.

 

The spread on ranks MM sets up is too wide and often creates horrible battles. Regardless is teams are balanced - that does not help out the lowest rank tank accomplish missions or get stars.  And this is why many players exit battles and now teams are unbalanced.