Striker Recoil

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Very important issue here that's definately worthy of such heated debate :rolleyes:

People these days, have to argue about things that are unrelated to the actual topic. :rolleyes:

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

People these days, have to argue about things that are unrelated to the actual topic. :rolleyes:

yes... and talking about what people argue is actually related to this topic? 

 

you have something related to say then say it, otherwise get out

Edited March 13, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

so anyway i found another page... it explains the disadvantageous and also explains that to avoid them they would have to increase recoil to an unacceptable level. because this is on a tank it is clear that the devs choose to tolerate higher recoil to overcome those disadvantages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_launch_(missile)

 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

yes... and talking about what people argue is actually related to this topic? 

you have something related to say then say it, otherwise get out

Man, you are so easily triggered. :D

 

And what if I don't want to leave, what are you gonna do about it? ;)

[wolverine848 13,097]

so anyway i found another page... it explains the disadvantageous and also explains that to avoid them they would have to increase recoil to an unacceptable level. because this is on a tank it is clear that the devs choose to tolerate higher recoil to overcome those disadvantages.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_launch_(missile)

 

 

Your latest attempt at proving your point involves discussion on...

"The FGM-148 Javelin is an American man-portable fire-and-forget anti-tank missile"

 

:rolleyes:

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

Your latest attempt at proving your point involves discussion on...

"The FGM-148 Javelin is an American man-portable fire-and-forget anti-tank missile"

 

:rolleyes:

and yours were tanks serveral times the size and weight of a mammoth

 

besides it might be man portable but it can't be fired from a man (unless he wants to fall down like in my earlier video) it has to be fired from a tripod

 

and as i said, they put flamethrower, shotgun and a vacum cleaner onto tanks... what's wrong with putting man portable rocket launchers onto one? 

Edited March 13, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[shafter9 156]

There aren’t any infantry in tanki; having a weapon system, with safety measures not implemented on real launchers even, to accommodate them is nonsensical. IRL rocket launchers on armored vehicles, which do cooperate with real humans, don’t need ejection charges. And soft-launch mechanisms don’t have recoil; they’re just short-duration 1st stage rocket engines, which burn, then pause, then the second stage ignites.

 

A system built to withstand the stress (or dampen) recoil is so complex and trouble-prone, that it vastly outweighs any benefit of not having back blast.

Edited March 20, 2019 by shafter9

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

A system built to withstand the stress (or dampen) recoil is so complex and trouble-prone, that it vastly outweighs any benefit of not having back blast.

yet, that's what they decided to do anyway, you got a problem?

 

 

IRL rocket launchers on armored vehicles

irl tank mounted shotguns and flamethrowers don't damage other tanks either.

 

if shotguns and flamethrowers can damage tanks here, logically backblast that can only damage people but not tankks irl should also damage tanks here.

 

 

There aren’t any infantry in tanki; having a weapon system, with safety measures not implemented on real launchers even, to accommodate them is nonsensical.

 maybe the heatwave could affect the drones heat detectors and the shockwave could knock them around?

 

maybe the missiles are nuclear powered and the backblast could release radioactive waves?

And soft-launch mechanisms don’t have recoil; they’re just short-duration 1st stage rocket engines, which burn, then pause, then the second stage ignites.

i already showed you that pdf, if you want to pretend you forgot it i can show it to you again if you want

Edited March 21, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[wolverine848 13,097]

There aren’t any infantry in tanki; having a weapon system, with safety measures not implemented on real launchers even, to accommodate them is nonsensical. IRL rocket launchers on armored vehicles, which do cooperate with real humans, don’t need ejection charges. And soft-launch mechanisms don’t have recoil; they’re just short-duration 1st stage rocket engines, which burn, then pause, then the second stage ignites.

 

A system built to withstand the stress (or dampen) recoil is so complex and trouble-prone, that it vastly outweighs any benefit of not having back blast.

He's trolling you.  Don't take the bait.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

There aren’t any infantry in tanki; having a weapon system, with safety measures not implemented on real launchers even, to accommodate them is nonsensical. IRL rocket launchers on armored vehicles, which do cooperate with real humans, don’t need ejection charges. And soft-launch mechanisms don’t have recoil; they’re just short-duration 1st stage rocket engines, which burn, then pause, then the second stage ignites.

A system built to withstand the stress (or dampen) recoil is so complex and trouble-prone, that it vastly outweighs any benefit of not having back blast.

 

I think you should ask for this topic to be closed as it just turned into a flame war over an uninteresting subject.

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

I think you should ask for this topic to be closed as it just turned into a flame war over an uninteresting subject.

you're not even part of it in any way, i don't see why you're so concerned about this "uninteresting subject"

 

if it's uninteresting for you then get out

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

you're not even part of it in any way, i don't see why you're so concerned about this "uninteresting subject"

if it's uninteresting for you then get out

 

Why you butt hurt over every single thing?

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

Why you butt hurt over every single thing?

not everything, only stuff I'm involved in. unlike you, you butthurt over things that don't even involve you.

 

so far you haven't made a single comment related to the topic, all you do is talk about what other people talk about in aspects that are completeletly unrelated to the topic.

 

this topic is for eople to talk about it, why you butthurt about how they talk?

Edited March 21, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

not everything.

 

I'll stop you right there.

 

I bet wolverine and shafter thinks otherwise.

 

 

Next time, think before coming up with such ridiculous conclusions, you dumb prick. ;)

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

bet wolverine and shafter thinks otherwise.

maybe. but the again they're the clowns who have a problem with a little recoil in a game where shotguns can damage tanks.

you dumb prick. ;)

maybe you're right, this place is turning into a flame war. you just had to turn your view into reality did you? happy now?

Edited March 22, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[wolverine848 13,097]

maybe. but the again they're the clowns who have a problem with a little recoil in a game where shotguns can damage tanks.

maybe you're right, this place is turning into a flame war. you just had to turn your view into reality did you? happy now?

Clowns... because I understand how things work?  That's gold Jerry.  GOLD!   :lol:

 

No-one said they couldn't have recoil if they wanted it for game purposes. 

We just de-bunked your lame attempt at proving missile-launchers mounted on vehicles would/should/could have recoil in real life.

They dont.

But you were to stubborn to admit you were wrong.

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

We just de-bunked your lame attempt at proving missile-launchers mounted on vehicles would/should/could have recoil in real life.

They dont.

But you were to stubborn to admit you were wrong.

how? by saying that the problem is with my inability to understand it? yeah sure. i could win every argument if i said the same thing

 

Clowns... because I understand how things work?  That's gold Jerry.  GOLD!   :lol:

 

 yes i'm sure you understand how thing works so much so that you had to make up facts from your imagination about how a 4000kg mammoth is equivalent to abrams

 

for the record so far none of the tank rocket launchers you've shown are lighter than even a mammoth. so how exactly are my man portable launchers any less irrelevant than your own irrelevant ones again?

 

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and can you make up your mind? am i trolling or am i just too stubborn? if you gonna make up a story to discredit me at least stick to the same one ;)

Edited March 22, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[wolverine848 13,097]

how? by saying that the problem is with my inability to understand it? yeah sure. i could win every argument if i said the same thing

 

 

 yes i'm sure you understand how thing works so much so that you had to make up facts from your imagination about how a 4000kg mammoth is equivalent to abrams

 

for the record so far none of the tank rocket launchers you've shown are lighter than even a mammoth. so how exactly are my man portable launchers any less irrelevant than your own irrelevant ones again?

 

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and can you make up your mind? am i trolling or am i just too stubborn? if you gonna make up a story to discredit me at least stick to the same one ;)

You still don't understand about relative weights?  Really?

400kg was chosen as a simple comparator for other tanks and for programming.  

 

No tank with any armor carrying a cannon actually weighs as little as 4000kg.

4000kg is what an Sd. Kfz armored car weighs - not a tank.

The fact you can't wrap your mind around this is... incredible.

 

I don't need to make up a story to discredit you - you did that fine on your own with first video of some ***** totally messing up the firing of a shoulder-launched RPG.  Like that has anything to do with this game about tanks.

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

You still don't understand about relative weights?  Really?

400kg was chosen as a simple comparator for other tanks and for programming.  

 

No tank with any armor carrying a cannon actually weighs as little as 4000kg.

4000kg is what an Sd. Kfz armored car weighs - not a tank.

The fact you can't wrap your mind around this is... incredible.

this is completely invented by you. 

 

I don't need to make up a story to discredit you - you did that fine on your own with first video of some ***** totally messing up the firing of a shoulder-launched RPG.  Like that has anything to do with this game about tanks.

then what was with those 2 pathetic stories? i showed that video looong before you made them. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

this is completely invented by you. 

 

then what was with those 2 pathetic stories? i showed that video looong before you made them. 

Is Mammoth a heavy tank?

What heavy tank weighs 4000kg?

 

I gave u an armored car that weighs 4000kg. Has 4 wheels, very little armor and a 20mm cannon.

"Invented" by me?.  Hardly.  It's called common sense.

Edited March 22, 2019 by wolverine848

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

Is Mammoth a heavy tank?

What heavy tank weighs 4000kg?

heavy in comparison to the rest of the tanks here. 

 

just a reminder, your story about me being a troll is very pathetic. you explicitly stated that i was just a troll baiting you, yet here you still are. 

[r_Given6 859]

We don't see the fumes coming out when the rocket gets ignited inside the barrel or when it's moving outside the barrel because those smoke and exhaust graphics would cause lag. The rockets move steadily and don't accelerate suddenly after coming out of the barrel, meaning that there is no explosion involved, just steady combustion.

 

I like the recoil of Striker, though, because even if an obstruction causes the first rocket of a salvo to not hit the target, the recoil makes the other three strike spot on.

[wolverine848 13,097]

heavy in comparison to the rest of the tanks here. 

 

just a reminder, your story about me being a troll is very pathetic. you explicitly stated that i was just a troll baiting you, yet here you still are. 

Yeah I guess I was wrong - was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.  But I guess you're not a troll - just dumb.

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

We don't see the fumes coming out when the rocket gets ignited inside the barrel or when it's moving outside the barrel because those smoke and exhaust graphics would cause lag.

yet i see it coming out from magnum, hammer and behind the rockets themselves hein?

 

smoke coming out from all around magnum doesn't cause lag, smoke coming out from behind the rockets doesn't cause lag. smoke coming out from hammmer doesn't cause lag. but... smoke from striker will cause lag?

 

The rockets move steadily and don't accelerate suddenly after coming out of the barrel, meaning that there is no explosion involved, just steady combustion.

whut?

 

it comes out instantly and it is only 25m/s when it comes out. had it been soley steady combustion, they wouldn't leave instantly already at 25m/s the moment you fire.

Edited March 22, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

Yeah I guess I was wrong - was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.  But I guess you're not a troll - just dumb.

when you made your final decision tell me. in the meantime stop justifying your views with stuff straight out of your imagination. either of your 3 attempts at trying to discredit me doesn't give you the excuse to invent stuff. just becausewhoever you're talking tois  a troll/dumb/stubborn person doesn't mean your whatever fairy tales you say to him turns into reality

Edited March 22, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI