Rank Brackets

[Initiate 1,306]

I think it's time for devs to come clean. What are the rank brackets? I just played a JGR battle with a Third Lieutenant and a Master Sergeant. That's 10 RANKS! I looked and found this guy, he had M0s. I don't know the MU level, but seriously. A rank where M0s are not uncommon playing against a rank that, if they were a buyer, could have ANY fully MUed M2 kit. That's M3s vs. M0s. I know, there's M2 kit's before then. But they unlock later for a reason! This is super annoying.

[u812ic 1,629]

I think it's time for devs to come clean. What are the rank brackets? I just played a JGR battle with a Third Lieutenant and a Master Sergeant. That's 10 RANKS! I looked and found this guy, he had M0s. I don't know the MU level, but seriously. A rank where M0s are not uncommon playing against a rank that, if they were a buyer, could have ANY fully MUed M2 kit. That's M3s vs. M0s. I know, there's M2 kit's before then. But they unlock later for a reason! This is super annoying.

I'm not sure what your complaint is. You brought up three different situations.

 

1...10 rank difference

2...A player who was using M0s

3...M2 kits unlocking later, for some reason.

 

Are you complaining about the rank difference? A higher level player using M0s? Kits unlocking later, too late, should be unlocking sooner?

[Initiate 1,306]

I'm not sure what your complaint is. You brought up three different situations.

 

1...10 rank difference

2...A player who was using M0s

3...M2 kits unlocking later, for some reason.

 

Are you complaining about the rank difference? A higher level player using M0s? Kits unlocking later, too late, should be unlocking sooner?

I was saying that a player with M0s was playing a player who had the option to have any M3 Hull or turret.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

I think it's time for devs to come clean. What are the rank brackets? I just played a JGR battle with a Third Lieutenant and a Master Sergeant. That's 10 RANKS! I looked and found this guy, he had M0s. I don't know the MU level, but seriously. A rank where M0s are not uncommon playing against a rank that, if they were a buyer, could have ANY fully MUed M2 kit. That's M3s vs. M0s. I know, there's M2 kit's before then. But they unlock later for a reason! This is super annoying.

11 rank bracket:

 

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

I faced F. Marshal one time at this rank...

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

I faced F. Marshal one time at this rank...

That's only a 6 rank bracket. While that may not seem like much compared to a 10 or 11 rank bracket, they have access to all M3 equipment while you still don't have access to M2 Smoky or Titan. 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

I faced F. Marshal one time at this rank...

dude FM is not that high I face Colonels

I think it's time for devs to come clean. What are the rank brackets? I just played a JGR battle with a Third Lieutenant and a Master Sergeant. That's 10 RANKS! I looked and found this guy, he had M0s. I don't know the MU level, but seriously. A rank where M0s are not uncommon playing against a rank that, if they were a buyer, could have ANY fully MUed M2 kit. That's M3s vs. M0s. I know, there's M2 kit's before then. But they unlock later for a reason! This is super annoying.

we need proof and date of battle, otherwise it just a MM bug, back then when people abused the group system, or just lies

[AncientFire 1,894]

nothing big, i faced a generalissmo when i was lieutenant colonel, which means now at this rank i can face legends... and that is ACTUALLY BULLCRAP

 

9 rank bracket - think of it as M2s (and possible M1s) facing M4s

 

sometimes i wonder what devs were EVEN THINKING when they made MM

 

i remember i had a 13 rank bracket game, i just need to find the pic for it

 

well now i remember it, i grouped with my WO5 friend and we ended up playing field marshals... wish i took pic :/

Edited April 20, 2019 by sarim2345_the_master

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

well rank brackets for battle groups are already 11 ranks apart because you can add 1 member 5 ranks lower than your rank and another member 5 ranks higher than your rank.

now because they look at the rank of the battle group creator when they decide what battle to send him to, the rank bracket could go up to 16 or 17 ranks apart in a battle

[Initiate 1,306]

nothing big, i faced a generalissmo when i was lieutenant colonel, which means now at this rank i can face legends... and that is ACTUALLY BULLCRAP

 

9 rank bracket - think of it as M2s (and possible M1s) facing M4s

 

sometimes i wonder what devs were EVEN THINKING when they made MM

 

i remember i had a 13 rank bracket game, i just need to find the pic for it

 

well now i remember it, i grouped with my WO5 friend and we ended up playing field marshals... wish i took pic :/

I remember seeing that pic.

 

Edit: Maybe it wasn't you.

dude FM is not that high I face Colonels

we need proof and date of battle, otherwise it just a MM bug, back then when people abused the group system, or just lies

Good point, I should have taken a screenshot. I will do that next time.

Edited April 20, 2019 by Initiate

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

nothing big, i faced a generalissmo when i was lieutenant colonel, which means now at this rank i can face legends... and that is ACTUALLY BULLCRAP

 

9 rank bracket - think of it as M2s (and possible M1s) facing M4s

 

sometimes i wonder what devs were EVEN THINKING when they made MM

 

i remember i had a 13 rank bracket game, i just need to find the pic for it

 

well now i remember it, i grouped with my WO5 friend and we ended up playing field marshals... wish i took pic :/

I've been in battles with a 18 rank gap.

[AncientFire 1,894]

I've been in battles with a 18 rank gap.

what ranks?

[Potdindy 866]

If this happens it is because few players were online and so MM either could wait twenty mins to fill or just go with wider ranks

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

I've been in battles with a 18 rank gap.

In MM?

[Maf 32,300]

Matchmaking rank brackets are flexible and depend on the amount of players queuing for MM. If there are lots of players and many share your rank, then the rank brackets will be small. But if there aren't enough players, then to shorten waiting times MM expands the brackets to fill the battle. As far as I know there is no limit to how far it can expand.

[u812ic 1,629]

When I was Captain I was faced with Field Marshals. The lowest rank on some of these battles was 2nd Lt. 

[Sherman10 17]

Matchmaking rank brackets are flexible and depend on the amount of players queuing for MM. If there are lots of players and many share your rank, then the rank brackets will be small. But if there aren't enough players, then to shorten waiting times MM expands the brackets to fill the battle. As far as I know there is no limit to how far it can expand.

This happens more often than it should.  I just exit out and try again.  It would be better if we had smaller rank brackets with less players in battles than shortening the wait times.  After all battles should be fun and competitve, not a kill zone for higher ranked players.

Edited April 21, 2019 by Sherman10

[wolverine848 13,097]

Matchmaking rank brackets are flexible and depend on the amount of players queuing for MM. If there are lots of players and many share your rank, then the rank brackets will be small. But if there aren't enough players, then to shorten waiting times MM expands the brackets to fill the battle. As far as I know there is no limit to how far it can expand.

This is absolutely stupid and the reason for much of the frustration of many players.

 

And also why many teams are unbalanced - because the low rank finally realizes how badly they are placed and just leaves.

Then another player gets slotted into a partial battle - with that team probably losing - and ALSO leaves.

[u812ic 1,629]

Matchmaking rank brackets are flexible and depend on the amount of players queuing for MM. If there are lots of players and many share your rank, then the rank brackets will be small. But if there aren't enough players, then to shorten waiting times MM expands the brackets to fill the battle. As far as I know there is no limit to how far it can expand.

 

 

According to the Wiki: https://en.tankiwiki.com/Rank_limits

[wolverine848 13,097]

According to the Wiki: https://en.tankiwiki.com/Rank_limits

Does not always conform to that.  This is what we would have seen back in the day when we created our own battles.

 

Now a Colonel can fight a Gismo or even a Legend.

[u812ic 1,629]

Does not always conform to that.  This is what we would have seen back in the day when we created our own battles.

 

Now a Colonel can fight a Gismo or even a Legend.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. The Wiki is outdated, so are some of the maps. I thought I read that the Wiki was updated. Maybe just for the ODs. 

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

According to the Wiki: https://en.tankiwiki.com/Rank_limits

 

Yeah, I'm aware of that. The Wiki is outdated, so are some of the maps. I thought I read that the Wiki was updated. Maybe just for the ODs. 

that part of the wiki is not outdated. It is about the rank brackets for the battles that YOU create. in matchmaking it's the server which creates the battles.

[Maf 32,300]

According to the Wiki: https://en.tankiwiki.com/Rank_limits

As far as I know, those limits apply only to PRO battles. In MM they might be theoretically unlimited.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

As far as I know, those limits apply only to PRO battles. In MM they might be theoretically unlimited.

Wait the minute??!! Unlimited?! Oh no!

[Maf 32,300]

Wait the minute??!! Unlimited?! Oh no!

I'll check this to be sure, but like I said in my previous post - MM keeps expanding the rank range until there's enough players to fill a battle. Whether or not there's a limit to this expansion - I don't know for sure.