Wheteher tanki is Pay TO win or not?

[DEATHMODE_ON 0]

This topic is to confirm whether tanki is p2w or not. Personally i think it is not. Lets see others opinions. You MUST explain why tanki is considered P2W and not because you have personal grudges against game or you cannot be biased. Just tell truth and i will explain later why tanki is not P2W in a video if tanki starts working properly for me again.

Edited November 30, 2019 by DEATHMODE_ON

[r_Given6 859]

I don't think Tanki is P2W. Buyers stand no chance against skilled non-buyers. Very few elements cause imbalance, but they too are being balanced out, such as the recent drones update.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Actually it kinda is P2W, you can buy advantages with real money. But I get that it's to put money into the devs pockets.

 

At least the P2W aspect isn't as bad as in other games.

[Ninja 10,468]

The game quite obviously has P2W elements and they are fully intentional as developers have publicly said. The saving grace here is that the game is still quite playable as free player if you're willing to grind, save and make some sacrifices. 

 

The game needs money to exist so there has to be a compromise somewhere, I suspect it will become increasingly difficult for F2P players as the game loses players because the lost revenue would have to be offset somehow.

[iWillHealYou 220]

It is not a "Yes" or "No" answer for me. It surely has some P2W aspects, buyers can get whatever they want regardless of their poor decisions but F2P players have to play and invest very carefully to stay competitive against buyers. But it is much better compared to old days when buyers at Major ranks could have M4s when non-buyers could only afford M1 equipment. 

 

I started playing after the release of Overdrives (Old overdrives) and most of the battles were dependent on 'which team has most buyers'. It is very unpopular opinion that New Overdrives balanced this aspect, and I second that. Indeed, you can defeat the bunch of buyers if you've good team coordination, it was nearly impossible to do that before regardless of your skills.

[Benefactor 6,888]

The crystal distribution is weird. This battle resulted in a draw, but go figure out the crystal distribution.

The non-buyers can earn as much and sometimes more crystals in battle as the buyers.

I voted NOT P2W.

 

 

[iWillHealYou 220]

10 minutes ago, Benefactor said:

The crystal distribution is weird. This battle resulted in a draw, but go figure out the crystal distribution.

The non-buyers can earn as much and sometimes more crystals in battle as the buyers.

I voted NOT P2W.

I suspect that majority of them have a beginner pass. Do that in mid or high ranks you'll see a good difference.

[Benefactor 6,888]

3 minutes ago, iWillHealYou said:

I suspect that majority of them have a beginner pass. Do that in mid or high ranks you'll see a good difference.

This one was ranked from WO2 - MAJ. Battle was a draw. The top 2 on red (bottom group) had premium.

[Guest]

To be honest, not really. I don't like the game anymore but my biggest issue with Tanki is the drug meta, Overdrives, and how they're pushing useless drones, not p2w.

 

Edited November 30, 2019 by Guest

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Of course. Getting killed constantly by fully microupgraded booster drone users is no fun. Combine it with overdrives and sometimes a game is impossible.

 

That's why it is important to know when to quit and be selective in battle. If the battle is one-sided then I just quit.

[MartinGarrix15 21]

To be honest, it is a P2W game because you have to pay real money to get somewhere.

[Espoir 991]

I agree for new players it's hard to earn crystals or get some cool stuff, buying as a real advantage in Tanki but when you are playing since years, it's not a problem because you are also maxed and by buying or not they can't be better than you.

[Michael828 816]

Yes it is fairly obvious tanki is P2W, just take a look at lower ranked battles. But being P2W is completely normal for a game that's free-to-play. And unlike some other P2W games, tanki has released several updates before attempting to bridge the gap between buyers and non-buyers, each with varying degrees of success, but still greatly appreciated.

 

 

[Thomas11239 366]

Well it definitely has p2w parts, which basically all games have. I do have the idea that way more players buy now than a few years back, but I can be wrong.

[Viking4s 10,791]

Since you can buy product kits 2 ranks earlier than normal players and buy crystals to upgrade your kit to the highest upgrades, there is no doubt that it is P2W.

Same with drones, the complete upgrades require so many crystals that buyers will have it upgraded way sooner than normal players.
There is also powerful free to play options like ODs that render voids the power of strong players, but overall the buyers is the winner by a large margin.

It is not hard to earn crystals, you just get less than the others. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

Drones and Challenges (gold tier) certainly enhance the pay-to-win aspect of the game.

[BattleForInsanity 6]

Thing is, I’ve been able to do pretty well without paying, getting Dictator M3 & Rail M2.5 at 2nd luteniunt mainly from the discounts.

Though I do see some advantages in some P2W aspects, events that give out containers (like the recent war occurring atm) and sales (which give 20-50%) are something to take account since these help out greatly with non-buyers.

Edited December 12, 2019 by BattleForInsanity
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[DarkFantasy 88]

I guess its a paytowin game Just imagine yourself at brigadier with m2 fully upgraded to m3 and u find a buyer who has bought a kit and got its m4 by buying a lot of crystals and tankoins... With the new modification system we might not experience this... But every game is like paytowin lol , pay and get something.. So cant blame TO as a single game for PAYTOWIN game.. For anything u need money like for getting food or wteva.. So yh I go with the option it is paytowin to an extent.

Edited December 12, 2019 by DARKFANTASY
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[wolverine848 13,097]

12 hours ago, BattleForInsanity said:

Thing is, I’ve been able to do pretty well without paying, getting Dictator M3 & Rail M2.5 at 2nd luteniunt mainly from the discounts.

Though I do see some advantages in some P2W aspects, events that give out containers (like the recent war occurring atm) and sales (which give 20-50%) are something to take account since these help out greatly with non-buyers.

Sure non-buyers can "do well", but overall - "Buyers" still have an advantage in container-events like WAR.
To get the max # containers you need to own both Battle Pass and Premium Pass

[iFros 1,891]

It is totally fine in my opinion for the game to have a pay to win side. Because the game won't profit anything if such feature is disabled, and such thing will lead to the slow death of the game itself. Moreover, people that only rely on in-game crystals are also still able to enjoy the game. It's this unbalance between the two sides that makes the game even more exciting

[nuthatch41 9]

For the most part, yes it is. but a non-buyer can still win if he trys hard enough, and grinds hard enough for drugs. (or if he's lucky in containers, unlike me)

 

things that make the game P2W is.... litterally everything that doesn't effect you're armor, speed, damage, ect.

 

Its impossible to play MM without drugs, and so for a non-buyer like I used to be, getting drugs was next to impossible after the weekly container update, and if I were to save them, then I would still lose while saving them.

[TWICE 798]

The game is so random with Matchmaking.  It's hard to say Tanki is a total P2W game these days.  It's just... random.

 

What if MM puts a buyer into a noob team with members who are at least 2 ranks lower than the oppositions?  I don't think most of the buyers in game could make it.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, TWICE said:

The game is so random with Matchmaking.  It's hard to say Tanki is a total P2W game these days.  It's just... random.

 

What if MM puts a buyer into a noob team with members who are at least 2 ranks lower than the oppositions?  I don't think most of the buyers in game could make it.

Buyer will still get 3 6 stars.  Winning battle really only matters if there is a "top-3-winners-team" mission.

 

In this day-and-age getting as many stars as possible seems to be the only thing that matters.  Sad...

[Benefactor 6,888]

1 hour ago, TWICE said:

What if MM puts a buyer into a noob team with members who are at least 2 ranks lower than the oppositions?  I don't think most of the buyers in game could make it.

That happens more often than not.

[DeathIsImminent 153]

On 11/30/2019 at 3:12 PM, DEATHMODE_ON said:

This topic is to confirm whether tanki is p2w or not. Personally i think it is not. Lets see others opinions. You MUST explain why tanki is considered P2W and not because you have personal grudges against game or you cannot be biased. Just tell truth and i will explain later why tanki is not P2W in a video if tanki starts working properly for me again.

I don't think you need an explanation to understand why, do you not know the consensus definition of P2W? At the same time, big hypocrisy right there, OP.

 

But it looks like people really here have that low of an IQ, so let me explain; if it has ANY possible MECHANIC that allows people who PAY for the game get an ADVANTAGE then the game is P2W, no exceptions.

 

On 11/30/2019 at 7:08 PM, Ninja said:

The game quite obviously has P2W elements and they are fully intentional as developers have publicly said. The saving grace here is that the game is still quite playable as free player if you're willing to grind, save and make some sacrifices. 

 

The game needs money to exist so there has to be a compromise somewhere, I suspect it will become increasingly difficult for F2P players as the game loses players because the lost revenue would have to be offset somehow.

 

Unexpectedly blunt on the front of the game losing players, coming from an admin. The better solution for the game would be to go less P2W so as people would actually enjoy playing it more, recommend it to other people and help it grow, otherwise you are just delaying and brushing under the rug the inevitable. For a mid-size indie developer, this isn't sustainable business. Wonder why AG's choosing to yeet itself to bankruptcy. Something weird up with the shareholder(s) or the CEO (if you even have one of those)? EA, for instance, has expendable games that they reroll every year or two before they just re-sell the same trash again for profit. This game doesn't do that, it has a Fortnite model of an on-going Free-to-play, but with massively increasing P2W tactics. This is a disaster waiting to happen

Edited December 19, 2019 by DeathIsImminent