Titan Vs. Mammoth

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I feel it has long been argued which is truly greater... Slightly more size or slightly more speed. What do you think?

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Let the discussion begin!

[Michael828 816]

Mammoth wins in an overdrive battle. But I can assume both are equally matched in non-overdrive confrontations since their stats are nearly identical.

 

While there isn't any objectively best hull in the game, I can infer that Hunter and Viking are suitable for most maps, thus I personally would say they're the best hulls only because of their versatility, not because of stats or ODs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Stat wise I would say they're well matched.

 

OD wise, I would say that mammoth is great for defending your base. Titan has more flexibility and longer duration.

[Legacy 7]

When it comes to MM battles I'll go for Mammoth but in non overdrive battles Titan is slightly better than Mammoth for me

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

I feel like 7 years ago, it would hands down be mammoth because titan was in that weird area where it was faster than mammoth but still way too slow to capture flags so you might as well go all-in and get the most protection (which I remember Mammoth having around 5000 health at M4 and with nitro, could reach the speed of like an m2 dictator)  

 

Now, I'd say titan is better. The weird and questionable rebalance of 2016 made it so that Titan and Mammoth have the same health but Titan remains faster (Honestly, power and weight are completely meaningless metrics). Also, Titan's OD is better for its team aspect. 

 

If you look on my profile, I had M1 Mammoth but when those updates rolled around and I had enough crystals for an M3 hull besides viking, I decided to upgrade titan to m3.

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 12/28/2019 at 3:18 PM, Michael828 said:

Mammoth wins in an overdrive battle. But I can assume both are equally matched in non-overdrive confrontations since their stats are nearly identical.

 

While there isn't any objectively best hull in the game, I can infer that Hunter and Viking are suitable for most maps, thus I personally would say they're the best hulls only because of their versatility, not because of stats or ODs.

How does Mammoth win the OD battle?    It lasts 7 seconds and can only be used on itself.  Titan lasts much longer and gives benefit to team-mates as well.

Not sure how it can be said one is better than the other - they have wildly different applications.

[r_Given6 859]

49 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

How does Mammoth win the OD battle? 

I think that wasn't a statement about their usability in battles, but a situation of a Mammoth with OD directly crashing into a Titan in a dome.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, Given said:

I think that wasn't a statement about their usability in battles, but a situation of a Mammoth with OD directly crashing into a Titan in a dome.

 

Reminds me of the "what ifs"... who will win... a Gorilla or a Black bear...

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Titan is FAR SUPERIOR to Mammoth in almost every way!

• They have the same exact hitpoints....
  • But Titan is faster
• Titan is more maneuverable
• Titan's overdrive is much more useful
  • Mammoth's overdrive is super easy to avoid. Just run from it. By the time you finally get close, the enemies would've sniped you away.
  • Titan on the other hand, becomes godmode with it's shield.......AND ITS TEAMMATES.

[thunderhunter123 741]

If you have include Overdrives.

• Titan can reduce a lot of damage.
• However, with Mammoth, it can ignore Titan's dome and defeat it.

If you compare speeds, then Titan can beat Mammoth.

They both have the same HP.

They both can help others.

Mammoth can push back Titan and win in these situations.

They are both equal overall. This allows us to choose the playing style, fit with our Turret.

[wolverine848 13,097]

15 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Titan is FAR SUPERIOR to Mammoth in almost every way!

• They have the same exact hitpoints....
  • But Titan is faster
• Titan is more maneuverable
• Titan's overdrive is much more useful
  • Mammoth's overdrive is super easy to avoid. Just run from it. By the time you finally get close, the enemies would've sniped you away.
  • Titan on the other hand, becomes godmode with it's shield.......AND ITS TEAMMATES.

Titan's speed is barely better (8%) than Mammoth. 

Mammoth has better acceleration and more weight.

Mammoth can kill a Titan inside the dome.

Mammoth immune to status effects during the duration of OD.

It's not as one-sided as you suggest.

 

[alkyng 3,080]

Weirdly the topic starter haven't entered the forum ever after creating the topic to see any post..

Btw, if the discussion was includes the overdrives, Titan is better.

But as a hull, both have advantages and disadvantages. I think Titan is better overall. But I tend to love Mammoth, as it's the best representor of the heaviness and strong in the game.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

7 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Titan's speed is barely better (8%) than Mammoth. 

Mammoth has better acceleration and more weight.

Mammoth can kill a Titan inside the dome.

Mammoth immune to status effects during the duration of OD.

It's not as one-sided as you suggest.

I would rather move 8% faster all the time. That 8 percent can be a difference maker. 

Yes, but all the matchmaking maps are...

1. So large that you cannot reach enemies so easily
2. Are closed up so unless you are on Archipelago, you cannot utilize your weight to push enemies off the map. 
3. Sitting on the flag? A Gauss can just snipe you away and the rest of your team.

Lets just hope the Titan and/or their teammates don't see you coming.....or else...

1. They will shoot you and snipe you off if they have enough firepower
2. With speed boost, a Titan (and without, any other hull in general) will just back up out of the way. And still shoot you while doing so.

Hooray! But I guess like 75% of the damage sources in Tanki have no status effects.

There's a reason why most people use Titan or Ares, and not Mammoth.
Titan's overdrive makes you and your teammates literal Godmode over a distance of like, 35 meters or so. Ares' overdrive has infinite range. And even if enemies move out of the way, the healing provided by the ball can potentially benefit your entire team if they use it correctly. Also, both hulls are faster than Mammoth.

 

While Mammoth's overdrive is literally, the only "Melee" thing in Tanki. And the speed boost it gives Mammoth is negligible when it's still not fast enough to outrun half of the hulls.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

16 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

I would rather move 8% faster all the time. That 8 percent can be a difference maker. 

 

it is useful, but titan and mammoth are both heavy hulls, so as most often they'd be seen in defence, it'd be better to compare them in terms of defence where speed is less important, more weight.. but speed also comes into use when getting to the base flag in large maps and for the goldboxes maybe..

[wolverine848 13,097]

16 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

So large that you cannot reach enemies so easily

I don't know about you - but I'm getting maps like Sandbox and Sandal a lot.  Mammoth doesn't have far to go in those.

Plus you don't equip a short-range turret on Mammoth.  You equip Gauss or Vulcan.  Long-range combat.  Enemy gets to close and you activate death-field plus get healed instantly.

[Iron_Man 2,376]

I'd rather say that both are equally useful in their own way. I use both the hulls and each one of it is useful in various situations. Titan is good in Siege and Mammoth is good in hunting Juggernaut.

[alkyng 3,080]

46 minutes ago, Ironmantonystark said:

Viking is good in hunting Juggernaut.

Fixed it for ya. You can say anything about Mammoth but not good in Juggernaut.  Mammoth is even better in Siege more than it's better in Juggernaut.

[Iron_Man 2,376]

2 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

Fixed it for ya. You can say anything about Mammoth but not good in Juggernaut.  Mammoth is even better in Siege more than it's better in Juggernaut.

Mate, the discussion here is about Titan and Mammoth so I didn't bring Viking. Among Titan and Mammoth, I believe that even you would agree with me, Mammoth is waay better for killing Juggernaut. I was speaking about Mammoth's Overdrive. Titan's Overdrive is a defensive one whereas Mammoth's is an offensive. I use it to hunt Juggernauts.

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6 minutes ago, Ironmantonystark said:

Mate, the discussion here is about Titan and Mammoth so I didn't bring Viking. Among Titan and Mammoth, I believe that even you would agree with me, Mammoth is waay better for killing Juggernaut. I was speaking about Mammoth's Overdrive.

Nah. With mammoth you need to touch the juggernaut which is kinda hard, unless you are lucky to find him in a corner, while with titan you can find a good distance to deal a high amount of damage, e.g. striker which I love.

[LambSauce 1,891]

On 4/28/2021 at 8:14 AM, beachhouse said:

With mammoth you need to touch the juggernaut which is kinda hard, unless you are lucky to find him in a corner

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