Happy New Year 2020!

[r_Spytank2 129]

13 hours ago, mightymeat24 said:

3. Remove the new spawn-kill protection. I don't know anyone who likes it. 

IMO the new spawn-kill protection is a very good update.

[r_Spytank2 129]

12 hours ago, Balmain said:

I don't know if Tanki has ever removed an update, but they really really should remove the anti-spawn protection, or whatever it's called, It completely ruins Matchmaking and XP/Bp

Really? I thought it was very necessary

[r_Spytank2 129]

6 hours ago, Balmain said:

to hell with that, spawn killing might be a problem in some formats, like xp bp for instance but it is not a problem in matchmaking, if they were to add a spawn protection, this is not the way it should be implemented, it's just ridicilously unfair.

Not a problem in matchmaking? Spawn camping? Not a problem in matchmaking? ...I think you'd be surprised.

[AudimasLTU 62]

I like a Tanki and Happy New Year. but I do not like some of the changes. I liked Titans OD when it healed. I Also don’t like the respawn protection either. Just my opinions!

 Thank you,

 hamsterboy14 

[Viking4s 10,791]

8 hours ago, r_Spytank2 said:

Not a problem in matchmaking? Spawn camping? Not a problem in matchmaking? ...I think you'd be surprised.

No it i not a problem, it is the consequence of a weak team overwhelmed by its opponents (temporary or till the end). There is always a losing side, some time it is a narrow loss and sometime it is bad, both are the consequences of the teams strength and team cooperation. Why not separate both team with a wall or a rift and keep, that would work 100%.

If they really want to reduce spawn killing, devs needs to improve the Latest "spawn temporary protection" update, it is not clear at all to the attacker if an enemy just re-spawned or not.

[r_Spytank2 129]

7 hours ago, Viking4s said:

No it i not a problem, it is the consequence of a weak team overwhelmed by its opponents (temporary or till the end). There is always a losing side, some time it is a narrow loss and sometime it is bad, both are the consequences of the teams strength and team cooperation. Why not separate both team with a wall or a rift and keep, that would work 100%.

If they really want to reduce spawn killing, devs needs to improve the Latest "spawn temporary protection" update, it is not clear at all to the attacker if an enemy just re-spawned or not.

By "strength" of a team, I think you definitely mean ability to spend as much money as you can on supplies and destroy everybody without using the slightest bit of skill.

 

And although you are right that it has its flaws, like having no visible difference to enemies when active, I think it does more good than harm.

Edited January 2, 2020 by r_Spytank2
Lol I wrote more harm than good not the other way around, just changed that

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

6 hours ago, Viking4s said:

No it i not a problem, it is the consequence of a weak team overwhelmed by its opponents (temporary or till the end). There is always a losing side, some time it is a narrow loss and sometime it is bad, both are the consequences of the teams strength and team cooperation. Why not separate both team with a wall or a rift and keep, that would work 100%.

If they really want to reduce spawn killing, devs needs to improve the Latest "spawn temporary protection" update, it is not clear at all to the attacker if an enemy just re-spawned or not.

Define "weak team". Spawn killing can be a result of one team loading into battle before the other team, or unbalanced teams.

Either way it's still been a problem that has plagued the game for years.

[r_Spytank2 129]

1 hour ago, DieselPlatinum said:

Define "weak team". Spawn killing can be a result of one team loading into battle before the other team, or unbalanced teams.

Either way it's still been a problem that has plagued the game for years.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[wolverine848 13,097]

3 hours ago, DieselPlatinum said:

Define "weak team". Spawn killing can be a result of one team loading into battle before the other team, or unbalanced teams.

Either way it's still been a problem that has plagued the game for years.

This definitely needs to be fixed.  Getting killed is definietly bad.  Spotting the enemy a free cap (or TWO) in a 7-minute battle is worse.

[r_Spytank2 129]

18 hours ago, hamsterboy14 said:

I like a Tanki and Happy New Year. but I do not like some of the changes. I liked Titans OD when it healed. I Also don’t like the respawn protection either. Just my opinions!

 Thank you,

 hamsterboy14 

Titan's OD was way too overpowered before that though, any ally who entered the sphere became almost indestructible. The spawn protection's a really good update IMO. Also, thought I'd ask, if you think the protection's bad, why'd you cast a like on one of my replies where I was supporting it?

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

Hunter OD is overpowered. You can't move, you lose your supplies and you have a cooldown on supplies if you ever survive. Triple action, insane.

[wolverine848 13,097]

49 minutes ago, a7x_Pedro48 said:

Hunter OD is overpowered. You can't move, you lose your supplies and you have a cooldown on supplies if you ever survive. Triple action, insane.

Would be much better to be destroyed... unsane... amirite?

[r_Spytank2 129]

1 hour ago, a7x_Pedro48 said:

Hunter OD is overpowered. You can't move, you lose your supplies and you have a cooldown on supplies if you ever survive. Triple action, insane.

I absolutely agree. Its overdrive should be next on the list for nerfing, after mammoth and titan. Losing supplies, I kinda understand. Cooldown for 30 seconds? Unacceptable. And instead of freezing enemies, I think it should simply slow them down like freezing effect and prevent them from shooting.

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 hours ago, r_Spytank2 said:

I absolutely agree. Its overdrive should be next on the list for nerfing, after mammoth and titan. Losing supplies, I kinda understand. Cooldown for 30 seconds? Unacceptable. And instead of freezing enemies, I think it should simply slow them down like freezing effect and prevent them from shooting.

Mammoth needs a nerf? (it lost it's invulnerability already)  Titan just lost it's healing power.

But no mention of Hornet? (that wouldn't be your only m2 ... would it?)

 

Freezing lasts longer than 2.7 seconds stun does.  Players will whine about that too.

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

He never said Mammoth and Titan need a nerf -_- He said that Hunter needs a nerf now, after Mammoth and Titan got their nerf.

 

10 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Would be much better to be destroyed... unsane... amirite?

 

We are destroyed anyways. I guess you have the mental capabilities to understand that when you can't move, and then drive around with a dumb cooldown on supplies, you're just a sitting duck waiting to be one shot.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

On 1/1/2020 at 8:51 AM, theFiringHand said:

We can’t promise that we won’t make mistakes, or that we’ll get things perfect right away, but we’ll try our best.

 

What about fixing mistakes like the current farming going on in ASL where dictators keep leaving red until they're on blue (defending) equipped with Mechanic drone solely for the purpose of farming crystals and efficiency for no effort other than pressing 1 and shift.

 

Is this to be tolerated until such times income exceeds a certain level from batteries, repair kits, dictator, mechanic and micro upgrade sales?

I'd like to think Tanki are more ethical than this in 2020 but based on past experiences, nah, I doubt it.

 

 

ASL is now ruined.

 

@theFiringHand are you just going to make a statement of intent in post #1 or are you going to disappear and not follow up on any replies in this topic. It would be nice to hear you're at least aware of the situation and formulating a timely fix without time of year excuses.

 

Happy new year.

[Viking4s 10,791]

1 hour ago, AbsoluteZero said:

What about fixing mistakes like the current farming going on in ASL where dictators keep leaving red until they're on blue (defending) equipped with Mechanic drone solely for the purpose of farming crystals and efficiency for no effort other than pressing 1 and shift.

ASL is now ruined.

Dictator update is not a mistake, it is a special Xmas gift (limited opportunity). Once someone decided to give 25 score points to this mechanics/tank in the vicinity he already knew what gonna happens, any 8 years old players can see the benefit. On the good side it doesn't give you any XP.

I am blasting through finish top 3 x 15 times mission with it  

 

Edited January 3, 2020 by Viking4s

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

36 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

Dictator update is not a mistake, it is a special Xmas gift (limited opportunity). Once someone decided to give 25 score points to this mechanics/tank in the vicinity he already knew what gonna happens.

The 25pts for dictator overdrive was release as part of a variety of updates in patch update #584. There is nothing about it being described as a limited Christmas gift opportunity in these posts. (Christmas being a Christian religious event).

 

I've taken part in an asl battle on defense and it was utter madness. Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, ............  This from 6 other dictators too.

 

Are you seriously trying to tell me developers had this in mind when they decided to give 25pts to dictator? Limited or not, it's broken ASL and it's setting the cat amongst the pigeons in certain quarters of this game.

 

I can't stand these biased grovelling excuses. Balance needs to be fixed asap but it can't be fixed if heads are buried in the sand, denying their is a mistake in the first place.

 

 

[Viking4s 10,791]

1 hour ago, AbsoluteZero said:

The 25pts for dictator overdrive was release as part of a variety of updates in patch update #584. There is nothing about it being described as a limited Christmas gift opportunity in these posts. (Christmas being a Christian religious event).

 

I've taken part in an asl battle on defense and it was utter madness. Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, 1, Shift, 1, 1, 1, 1, Shift, ............  This from 6 other dictators too.

 

Are you seriously trying to tell me developers had this in mind when they decided to give 25pts to dictator? Limited or not, it's broken ASL and it's setting the cat amongst the pigeons in certain quarters of this game.

 

I can't stand these biased grovelling excuses. Balance needs to be fixed asap but it can't be fixed if heads are buried in the sand, denying their is a mistake in the first place,

That was sarcasm from me.

You should know by now that the devs are constantly tweaking the game mechanics and parameters, leaving players with the joyful pleasure to find out how today's game will turn out.

25 points is a "gift" till they make some changes to the OD mechanics. Charge speed, reduction points, ... who knows. Till then remember they do not make mistakes only trials. Yes IMO they are fully aware of the consequences of 25 points. I have no doubt on that. It will carry on until they get data. Then they tweak it and gather more data. Once the data meet their expectation or target it will stay as it is (for a longer period of time).

Edited January 3, 2020 by Viking4s

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

19 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

You should know by now that the devs are constently tweacking the game mechanics and parameters

Of course I do know this. Everyone knows this. I'm hoping they'll say something like, 'our motives and intensions were good but unfortunately a little short-sighted. - we'll fix it and we're on it right away'

But I don't need from excusers is, 'i'm crushing it with dictator right now so it's wonderful and great'

While it is easy to accrue a neat little crystal balance with dictator atm, those than benefit from it and stay silent knowing that an imbalance exists are not doing the game any favours. Those of us who speak up in the face of a certain backlash from some are the ones that should be thanked.

Edited January 3, 2020 by AbsoluteZero

[Viking4s 10,791]

30 minutes ago, AbsoluteZero said:

Of course I do know this. Everyone knows this. I'm hoping they'll say something like, 'our motives and intensions were good but unfortunately a little short-sighted. - we'll fix it and we're on it right away'

But I don't need from excusers is, 'i'm crushing it with dictator right now so it's wonderful and great'

While it is easy to accrue a neat little crystal balance with dictator atm, those than benefit from it and stay silent knowing that an imbalance exists are not doing the game any favours. Those of us who speak up in the face of a certain backlash from some are the ones that should be thanked.

It is not "great", but we cannot do anything about it. Better use this advantage till it last. 

You can still voice your concern as data do not show player mind set or concern. It will be your voice versus the data they gather (and not share).

On the day of the update announcement, many (including me) already said that 25pts will be too much.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

6 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

but we cannot do anything about it.

Of course there is. As players we can speak up. As mods we can use the channels available to relay player concerns. As CM's we can reassure players. So please, with the greatest respect, stop with irrelevant replies. I'm not asking you anything and you should realise by now I don't value anything you have to say. My post was that started this had an @ in it.

 

11 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

You can still voice your concern as data do not show player mind set or concern. 

You forget I hold mounds of data. I could name and shame players but won't in this forum, players who have just pressed 1 and shift for hours on end.  Please tell me where your data is? I'm not guessing like you. I'm stating fact and I have the data to prove it. I have the videos to prove it too. Battles are not currently being played in the spirit in which they are meant to be played atm and that too is fact.

 

I've had enough now of this useless back and forth with you. Bye. If any one in any official capacity wants my feedback then there it is. Hope you get it sorted out soon.

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 hours ago, a7x_Pedro48 said:

He never said Mammoth and Titan need a nerf -_- He said that Hunter needs a nerf now, after Mammoth and Titan got their nerf.

 

 

We are destroyed anyways. I guess you have the mental capabilities to understand that when you can't move, and then drive around with a dumb cooldown on supplies, you're just a sitting duck waiting to be one shot.

Mental capacity to understand?  I understand it fine - fine enough to not whine about it but to work around it.

It lasts 2.7 seconds.  Two. Point. Seven. Seconds.    If you're alone and ganged up on - sure you likely die.  If you have support - you are not automatically dead.

 

I've been stunned by it lots.  Have also tried to stun others with it and... does not always activate before I die.  It's not omnipotent like some claim it to be.

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

Who cares it last 2.7 seconds? It's enough to be killed anyways. No matters if I have teammates, they will be freezed too. And it's not only that, it's the fact that supplies are on cooldwon. Is it clear enough? A tank with half or less of his HP with a 30 seconds cooldown is useless.

 

Now saying that something is OP is just whining? Ok. On the other hand, you just keep agreeing with devs, right? Good puppy.

 

Never claimed anything. Just exposed a simple fact that Hunter as a triple action in is OD. Freeze, disable all drugs, cooldown on drugs. And it's the only OD that affects other tanks in 3 different ways.

 

Me is clear enough now?

 

Edited January 3, 2020 by a7x_Pedro48

[wolverine848 13,097]

13 minutes ago, a7x_Pedro48 said:

Who cares it last 2.7 seconds? It's enough to be killed anyways. No matters if I have teammates, they will be freezed too. And it's not only that, it's the fact that supplies are on cooldwon. Is it clear enough? A tank with half or less of his HP with a 30 seconds cooldown is useless.

 

Now saying that something is OP is just whining? Ok. On the other hand, you just keep agreeing with devs, right? Good puppy.

 

Never claimed anything. Just exposed a simple fact that Hunter as a triple action in is OD. Freeze, disable all drugs, cooldown on drugs. And it's the only OD that affects other tanks in 3 different ways.

 

Me is clear enough now?

 

 

All ODs can be OP if used to their potential - Hunter no different than the others in that aspect.   A dictator moving in from outside the "stun-zone" can erase everything a Hunter just did.  ONE EXAMPLE of a counter.   Hope that clears it up for you.