This is the reason why online tanki became a P2W game and the community is getting smaller and smaller.

[bossman161 84]

As someone who started out early 2012, let me put it to you simply.

 

The main problem has been supply usage.

 

Tankionline, the game I grew up with, has been dead for almost 3 years.

 

 

 

First was with the removal of ten crystal boxes (I doubt many people remember those)

 

Next was the removal of being able to make our own matches so we could fight, ON OUR TERMS. Now it's just this random mm, kind of like what World of Tanks Blitz does. And the thing that exceedingly pisses me the hell off is that on TO mobile, you can't find the damn battle pass in shop. I have several other major issues I have with the game but I think I'll keep them to myself. I've been a tanker here for almost a decade now. The veterans' opinions should be taken into high consideration.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2020 by Maf

[AncientFire 1,894]

29 minutes ago, bossman161 said:

Next was the removal of being able to make our own matches so we could fight, ON OUR TERMS. Now it's just this random mm

you still can make your own battles lol

[Towns 574]

7 hours ago, Maf said:

EA have no excuse for being P2W though, because they sell their games for like $60+ initial price

You don't have to pay for their "app store games" but they're still heavily P2W. But I understand what you're saying there. 

[Viking4s 10,791]

A bit of P2W in specific area, but there is many opportunities for skilled F2P players as long as you play on a regular basis, complete missions and buy smartly with crystals. It is a competitive game not for casual playing with no long term strategy for equipment.

After 10 years, this F2P game is still alive and has evolved in complexity, gameplay, graphics,.... and that is thanks to the buyers, don't forget that.

The important point is to have both, too much p2w and f2p player will not stay long.

Edited February 25, 2020 by Viking4s

[Potdindy 866]

Ive started a new account where i will go through the early ranks to see how the gameplay is down there. I will try to do it like a newish player...no drugging as long as possible, and will see how i do

[flaw03 25]

19 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

Hey, i have bought about 4-5 m2 kits while being a free-to-play player. there have been a few exceptions though, here they are

1. my first semi-m2 kit was siberian ( as it was not a full m2 kit coz it gave m1 hunter with m2 freeze and module), so this one was comparatively less costly than the kits i bought with crystals later

2. then i bought hammer-hunter m2 kit with crystals ( this was a few ranks and many weeks after i had bought siberian kit)

3. fortress kit

4. ram kit

5. then, i got a tanki x promocode, and with the bonuses i was able to buy excalibur kit.

all my m2 modules are from kits bought with crystals ( except railgun and gauss which i bought on 50% sale)

i was able to micro upgrade all my m2 hulls and turrets to m2-5

so yeah i get what you say, with careful planning and being patient enough ( to save-up weekly containers, wait for sales and grind on 2x funds,etc.), a free to play player can have just as varied and good garage as a buyer. As i type this message i have saved up 62 weekly containers and 18 exp later i will become 2 stars rank ( i think it is called major general)

 

yes but look at your rank"Brigadier" you have mk6 at the highest, my highest is mk7 and i am a lower rank, i had this at WO3 so  just to show how hard is it , and so easy for buyers to have mk7, whereas you have mk6

[wolverine848 13,097]

14 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

how many mk7s do you have at that rank?

i have more than 10 mk6s at my rank

5 m2 kits?  Overkill IMO.   At most you need 3 m2 combos (at your rank)

It is highly unlikely you will make use of that many combos - better to make 3 combos more powerful. You would have them closer to mk6.9 by now.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

10 hours ago, bossman161 said:

 

1) The main problem has been supply usage.

 

2) Tankionline, the game I grew up with, has been dead for almost 3 years.

 

3) First was with the removal of ten crystal boxes (I doubt many people remember those)

 

4) Next was the removal of being able to make our own matches so we could fight, ON OUR TERMS. Now it's just this random mm, kind of like what World of Tanks Blitz does.

5) And the thing that exceedingly pisses me the hell off is that on TO mobile, you can't find the damn battle pass in shop.

 

6) The veterans' opinions should be taken into high consideration.

 

1) why is this a problem?

2) no it's not. If it was "dead" it would have been shut down all those years ago.

3) they were farmed, Hell I even farmed them. They added to the multing/ sabotaging problem.

4) ever heard of pro battles? Guess not.

5) what, your phone is the only device you have?

6) not if their opinions are completely biased.

[flaw03 25]

Do you guys want it simpler, why tanki is p2w.

 

[Maf 32,300]

29 minutes ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

A simple test:

Are you having more fun now than when you first started playing the game?

 

I and many others most certainly are not.

Not a very good test. Players like you and I have been in this game for a long time, so it's likely that we're not having as much fun simply because it's difficult to keep enjoying something after so many years. Interests change, free time decreases, more exciting things get released, so it's understandable that you find it hard to stay attached to a small MMO from 2009.

Tanki has a variety of player types, each with their own play style. It's pretty much impossible to please everyone while still keeping the game afloat with monetisation updates.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

1 hour ago, Flaw said:

Do you guys want it simpler, why tanki is p2w.

 

Because it needs money.  Simple questions get simple answers.

58 minutes ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

A simple test:

Are you having more fun now than when you first started playing the game?

 

I and many others most certainly are not.

I'll be straight up honest with you. It wasn't fun being wrecked all the time by players who spam their repair kits. I also dont like what the challenges are doing to the quality of battles.

 

IMO, 2018 was the last good year of TO. They may not have added any of my suggestions, but they sure as heck didn't release horrible updates other than the removal of renting alterations. Star weeks might have messed things up here and there but at least it wasn't all the time like challenges are.

[Potdindy 866]

4 hours ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

A simple test:

Are you having more fun now than when you first started playing the game?

 

I and many others most certainly are not.

Your preference is not the same as others though. Im enjoying myself a lot more as I learn to play better. Used to be I was always running out of repair kits. Now I am constantly gaining more or them from conts

[123tim456back 195]

43 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

You are right about that but I am a player who likes to change my equipment every 3-4 battles for fresh gameplay.

I get bored with just 2-3 combos.

I often mix-match my combos if I start to get bore of them, for example, I can tell you that hammer- mammoth combo in CP battles works well for me. It is not the usual combo. 

Are your combos maxed? If so, how many? It isn't practical if you do that.  I have mk7.6 gear at captain, compared to your mk6.5(I think) at Brigadier +.

 

Still, gameplay gets really stale when you play with one combo 24/7.

[Potdindy 866]

So currently I have created a new account called PotdindyNoob, because...lets be real thats what I am. 

This is not a rtl account, but rather I am trying to play it like a new player. Obviously I have a lot more experience but so far the battles have been quite good.

My initial observations is that the fist battles put me against a lot of others at my rank but now at corporal, i am facing a lot of slightly higher ranked players with GS or 1-2k.

This isnt terrible and despite me not using supplies I can sorta keep up, I feel undergunned. I am assuming when I get my first mk2 kit, I will feel powerful for a while.

I have seen only 1 player dominating battles...the rest are just normal...very pleasant battles so far.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, Potdindy said:

So currently I have created a new account called PotdindyNoob, because...lets be real thats what I am. 

This is not a rtl account, but rather I am trying to play it like a new player. Obviously I have a lot more experience but so far the battles have been quite good.

My initial observations is that the fist battles put me against a lot of others at my rank but now at corporal, i am facing a lot of slightly higher ranked players with GS or 1-2k.

This isnt terrible and despite me not using supplies I can sorta keep up, I feel undergunned. I am assuming when I get my first mk2 kit, I will feel powerful for a while.

I have seen only 1 player dominating battles...the rest are just normal...very pleasant battles so far.

Even though the low ranks seem very slow compared to speed of battles in upper ranks - I also believe that's where the most enjoyable battles are (aside from the rare mega-buyer totally dominating).

[Potdindy 866]

3 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Even though the low ranks seem very slow compared to speed of battles in upper ranks - I also believe that's where the most enjoyable battles are (aside from the rare mega-buyer totally dominating).

The battles are good. Slower games means fewer blowouts. And at corporal I have almost 6k crystals so when I can get an mk2 kit...Ill easily be able to afford it. I do understand the difficulty...at Legend, eveyone has m3s so no one is undergunned that badly. Here, i might get matched vs players higher or lower than me

[123tim456back 195]

10 hours ago, At_Shin said:

yeah my combos are not maxed out.. most of my equipment is of mk6-4. I do have 2 turrets and 2 hulls at mk6-8 or mk6-9 ( thanks to valentines' sales and iron days sales).

i only upgrade during sales and only ugrade by 1 step (i don't waste on speed ups). i do not find non-maxed out equipment useless for game play; coz with enough skill and luck i get a k/d above 1 and 1 or 2 stars.

also alterations help to improve the experience a lot ( i use death herald compulsator with my mk5 railgun ) i own and use many alterations to further diversify my game.

 

Yeah, i get what you say: with just one high powered combo it can get boring. I used m2-5 Freeze a lot in my lower ranks till the point i lost all my supplies  and then my k/d suffered  ( and so did my skill with that turret), freeze frustrated me ( this is the reason i did not make it m2-10). Then i decided to use supplies only during sales and double funds.

So i saved up crystals and then bought a kit which caught my attention ( i had tried out the kit combos in my low alt accounts) and that helped a lot.

 

In short- owning an mk7 or mk6-10 does not matter to me much ( as i am already saving up weekly containers to buy one as i reach the 3-stars rank), i will just earn crys, wait for sales, upgrade my equip, and buy new alterations at half price.

Does it not matter to you because your standards are lower?(no offence)

You said with skill and luck you can get 1-2 stars each game, 9 games out of 10 I will top score on my team, even when getting steamrolled.  

[wolverine848 13,097]

6 minutes ago, 123tim456back said:

9 games out of 10 I will top score on my team, even when getting steamrolled.  

But that is not the norm.  Most ppl can't get 9-out-10 as "top score" since there's only 2 "top scores" per battle amongst 16 players.

So - IMO - that's a "standard" not reachable by many players.

[Viking4s 10,791]

Any player reaching 70 score point will get 1 stars. If you do not reach that threshold the system consider that you did not do enough to get a reward.
Make sure you start any battle form the start, the less time left the harder it is to get to 70.

[Potdindy 866]

If it is relevant, I will be tracking my progress in this second account and I think I will also want it to be helpful for new players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OzPsg5LmlQ

Edited February 26, 2020 by Potdindy

[flaw03 25]

On 2/25/2020 at 11:14 AM, Towns said:

You don't have to pay for their "app store games" but they're still heavily P2W. But I understand what you're saying there. 

 lol you are the one inspect element   

[Towns 574]

41 minutes ago, Flaw said:

 lol you are the one inspect element   

???

They're actually P2W boi

[bossman161 84]

On 2/25/2020 at 11:13 AM, DieselPlatinum said:

1) why is this a problem?

2) no it's not. If it was "dead" it would have been shut down all those years ago.

3) they were farmed, Hell I even farmed them. They added to the multing/ sabotaging problem.

4) ever heard of pro battles? Guess not.

5) what, your phone is the only device you have?

6) not if their opinions are completely biased.

Yes, heard of pro battles. And yes, phone is all I got. Also you can't find the battle pass in the garage in mobile so.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

1 hour ago, bossman161 said:

Yes, heard of pro battles. And yes, phone is all I got. Also you can't find the battle pass in the garage in mobile so.

Tell them about it in the complaint book. And hope they add it soon. As for me, I'm more worried about more important issues as I should.

[Potdindy 866]

So a poblem I am running into is that I am the level to buy an mk2 kit, but the shop doesnt seem to have any for crystals. Ive been sticking to smoky hunter so my gear score is always 0, fighting against ppl with GS for 1-2k. The shop needs to ALWAYS have crystal options. This is bad game design in my opinion. I basically have to either continue to fight with bad equipment or wait another 12 hours for the garage to reset.