This is the reason why online tanki became a P2W game and the community is getting smaller and smaller.

[DeathBullets 1]

On 3/6/2020 at 7:35 PM, Potdindy said:

Sometimes there are only tankoin kits but sometimes a crystal kit will show up

When can be that 'sometimes'?? 'cause it's been 2 days since i am opening the shop just for that crys kit to appear but it never does actually.

8 hours ago, Maf said:

You have to be viewing the HTML5 shop

I am. But there's nothing like crys kit available. it's all about tankoins. 

[r_Given6 859]

49 minutes ago, DeathBullets said:

When can be that 'sometimes'?? 'cause it's been 2 days since i am opening the shop just for that crys kit to appear but it never does actually.

I am. But there's nothing like crys kit available. it's all about tankoins. 

It's more unlikely now, because 3 of the 6 slots of the shop showcase are filled up by the special holiday bundle. After the Women's day event is over, there will be more of a chance of getting a crystal kit in 1 of the 6 slots.

[wolverine848 13,097]

12 hours ago, Maf said:

You have to be viewing the HTML5 shop.

Even then... you're lucky to see 1 kit.  ONE.   It's a pretty pathetic system now.

[BacardyXX 17]

Even when you see that crystal kit its only 15% discount (never seen higher discount). Why people even what to buy these crystal kits anyway, not worth it at all.

[SporkZilla 1,775]

35 minutes ago, BacardyXX said:

Even when you see that crystal kit its only 15% discount (never seen higher discount). Why people even what to buy these crystal kits anyway, not worth it at all.

It's worth it because buying equipment from nothing is so expensive now, especially modules, so before the update I was thinking about diversifying from Smoky + Hunter into Shaft + Hornet or Striker + Titan (or combinations of them), buying M2s in 50% sales or one of the old kits

My maths might be wrong, but to buy that the bits of that kit separately from nothing costs 1,154,000 crystals now, 577,000 crystals in a 50% sale

M7 Shaft and M7 Dictator costs 769,000 crystals, 384,500 crystals in a 50% sale

So buying that kit when it unlocks will give you M7 Shaft and M7 Dictator with a 50% discount and a M7 Eagle module for nothing if you haven't bought any of that equipment before

I'll probably buy any new turrets or hulls as kits now

Edited March 7, 2020 by SporkZilla

[DeathBullets 1]

On 3/8/2020 at 1:36 AM, BacardyXX said:

Even when you see that crystal kit its only 15% discount (never seen higher discount). Why people even what to buy these crystal kits anyway, not worth it at all.

It’s better than nothing. Least they can do is specify that 1 slot to Crystals kit, change kit every 12 hours in that 1 particular slot. Enhance the game in everyway but don’t make it hard for non-buyers community. 

[NatchGa 665]

Completely removing every element of the game one could argue as being "P2W" would dramatically change the game as we know it. Basically they would have to remove Mk system, and remove micro upgrades. Have every turret, hull, protection module, and drone be set to one specific value that cannot be changed. The ranks would no longer limit what level you could buy things at, but just be a purely statistical symbol showing your many hours dedicated to the game or your skill level. So basically, the second you make an account, you already have access to the best version of smoky and hornet possible, and crystals would really only be used to expand your turret/hull/protection/drone arsenal. Supplies would be infinite, or just wouldn't exist at all. That really only leaves skins, paints, and other cosmetic items being purchasable with real money. Is this community really large enough that the game would be able to exist with players only purchasing things that don't give them an advantage in battle?
 

[bossman161 84]

On 2/25/2020 at 12:47 AM, bossman161 said:

As someone who started out early 2012, let me put it to you simply.

 

The main problem has been supply usage.

 

Tankionline, the game I grew up with, has been dead for almost 3 years.

 

 

 

First was with the removal of ten crystal boxes (I doubt many people remember those)

 

Next was the removal of being able to make our own matches so we could fight, ON OUR TERMS. Now it's just this random mm, kind of like what World of Tanks Blitz does. And the thing that exceedingly pisses me the hell off is that on TO mobile, you can't find the damn battle pass in shop. I have several other major issues I have with the game but I think I'll keep them to myself. I've been a tanker here for almost a decade now. The veterans' opinions should be taken into high consideration.

 

 

 

 

 

This aged like fine milk. What I would give for only having supply abuses.

Edited January 16, 2022 by bossman161

[BruhBruhThingThing 413]

I don't have anything to add in agreement to the topic other than to check last weeks patch notes. It tells the whole story. The devs truly don't care about its players.

[rebar619 93]

Speaking for myself I stopped playing for about 2 years because the game was becoming uninteresting. It was rare to find a competitive match. They were ALWAYS blowouts. I have come back and tried playing in the past two weeks. The only thing that has changed is that I have no idea what is going on and no clear way to figure out how to get a grip on why my tank dies immediately to everyone else. Its maddening. On top of it the matches are still blowouts, so its really hard to give a damn and invest the time to figure things out. This is extremely frustrating.

Other than that things are great. I think my life is better off without this game in it anymore.

[YANUKFIN 493]

11 minutes ago, rebar619 said:

Speaking for myself I stopped playing for about 2 years because the game was becoming uninteresting. It was rare to find a competitive match. They were ALWAYS blowouts. I have come back and tried playing in the past two weeks. The only thing that has changed is that I have no idea what is going on and no clear way to figure out how to get a grip on why my tank dies immediately to everyone else. Its maddening. On top of it the matches are still blowouts, so its really hard to give a damn and invest the time to figure things out. This is extremely frustrating.

Other than that things are great. I think my life is better off without this game in it anymore.

Unfortunately your account is now considered very weak. To do well you need a fully upgraded drone, (of your choice.) All protection modules should be MK7 and at least a few maxed out.

You will also need augments and a hefty amount of supplies, also turrets/hulls should be MK7 or at least 2 of each that you like the most, maxed out.

To acquire all of this asap would cost you so much you seriously would have to sell your house. 

To do it gradually would take you about a thousand years and also a massive amount of luck in container openings.

You are getting blitzed in battle because you have none of these in your garage, with maybe the exception of supplies of course.

Tanki has gone down the drain and it will only get way worse in the future. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

19 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

All protection modules should be MK7 and at least a few maxed out.

Between status effects and criticals, this is not as important as it used to be.

Getting Armadillo should be the highest priority.  (GOOD LUCK)

Pretty sure Devs knew the pool of TKs for that contest was never gonna rise high enough for all to get that module.  Otherwise, there would have been a few ppl looking for new jobs right after that...

[YANUKFIN 493]

8 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Between status effects and criticals, this is not as important as it used to be

Agree.

 

9 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Getting Armadillo should be the highest priority.

Hmmm, Disagree.

 

9 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Pretty sure Devs knew the pool of TKs for that contest was never gonna rise high enough for all to get that module.

100% Agree. There is a catch of course when eventually getting armadillo, it costs a huge fortune in crystals to firstly upgrade it from MK1 to MK7 (rank allowing) then a further huge fortune to upgrade the MK7. That is why i disagreed about getting it. For what you get, taken into account all the OP gear that can take you out, it is just not viable for most players because of the very steep price you pay to upgrade it. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

Agree.

 

Hmmm, Disagree.

 

100% Agree. There is a catch of course when eventually getting armadillo, it costs a huge fortune in crystals to firstly upgrade it from MK1 to MK7 (rank allowing) then a further huge fortune to upgrade the MK7. That is why i disagreed about getting it. For what you get, taken into account all the OP gear that can take you out, it is just not viable for most players because of the very steep price you pay to upgrade it. 

I've got nothing else to spend crystals on.  Well... except for supplies.  Looks like DEvs are shafting us there - especially on Batteries.

Less than 500 on one account and it's using Brutus right now.  But that's a huge disadvantage compared to many of the drones.

[rebar619 93]

19 hours ago, YANUKFIN said:

Unfortunately your account is now considered very weak. To do well you need a fully upgraded drone, (of your choice.) All protection modules should be MK7 and at least a few maxed out.

You will also need augments and a hefty amount of supplies, also turrets/hulls should be MK7 or at least 2 of each that you like the most, maxed out.

To acquire all of this asap would cost you so much you seriously would have to sell your house. 

To do it gradually would take you about a thousand years and also a massive amount of luck in container openings.

You are getting blitzed in battle because you have none of these in your garage, with maybe the exception of supplies of course.

Tanki has gone down the drain and it will only get way worse in the future. 

I was afraid this was the issue. I am not going to spend money on this game. If the matches were at least interesting like they used to be then I would be more inclined, but the gameplay now is awful. Its really frustrating to have a tank that is essentially useless now. It appears my only options are to spend money, get slaughtered for a few months until I can do the upgrades you note, or to stop playing. FFS, clearly not playing is the best choice. Hell, I have a vague idea of what you are referring to, but no clear way forward to figure out how to combine items for my account and gameplay.

Its crazy that it is rare to see a light hull now, and when I do they still destroy my viking with one shot. Yeah, Im frustrated and pissed. Tanki really F'd things up.

[rebar619 93]

19 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Between status effects and criticals, this is not as important as it used to be.

Getting Armadillo should be the highest priority.  (GOOD LUCK)

Pretty sure Devs knew the pool of TKs for that contest was never gonna rise high enough for all to get that module.  Otherwise, there would have been a few ppl looking for new jobs right after that...

HAHAHAH, I just looked at augments for my Viking. Armor piercing immunity is crazy impressive, but costs 5000 Tankcoins. I would have to spend $50 to get that. People say it is P2W now and I can see why. Damn, these guys can go pound sand. Why would I want to play against some punk that has dumped cash into his account, slaughters me in a match, then talks endless bad in the process because he is "so good". 

 

My anger aside, I am all for anyone that has any constructive input on how I can update my rig so that I could actually play. From what I am seeing that is very  impossible.

Edited January 28, 2022 by nikunj04
Kindly refrain from using Inappropriate words

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, rebar619 said:

HAHAHAH, I just looked at augments for my Viking. Armor piercing immunity is crazy impressive, but costs 5000 Tankcoins. I would have to spend $50 to get that. People say it is P2W now and I can see why. Damn, these guys can go pound sand. Why would I want to play against some punk that has dumped cash into his account, slaughters me in a match, then talks endless bad in the process because he is "so good". 

 

My anger aside, I am all for anyone that has any constructive input on how I can update my rig so that I could actually play. From what I am seeing that is very  impossible.

You have 3 mk7 turrets and 2 mk7 hulls.  Not sure how many upgrades... but you will be better off getting one of those sets to mk7.15 before upgrading the others.

You have mk7 Rail module - but - it doesn't do much since Rail has 50% critical and ignores the module.  Increase Eagle to MK7 and buy mk7 Gauss and Tesla modules.

Make sure you have a fully upgraded drone before investing in another.  Next drone should be one of Defender or Booster or Trickster.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

On 1/27/2022 at 11:18 PM, YANUKFIN said:

Unfortunately your account is now considered very weak. To do well you need a fully upgraded drone, (of your choice.) All protection modules should be MK7 and at least a few maxed out.

You will also need augments and a hefty amount of supplies, also turrets/hulls should be MK7 or at least 2 of each that you like the most, maxed out.

To acquire all of this asap would cost you so much you seriously would have to sell your house. 

To do it gradually would take you about a thousand years and also a massive amount of luck in container openings.

You are getting blitzed in battle because you have none of these in your garage, with maybe the exception of supplies of course.

Tanki has gone down the drain and it will only get way worse in the future. 

I have 7 MK7 20/20 turrets - railgun, firebird, freeze, isida, hammer, magnum, twins. I have 2 MK7 20/20 hulls - viking, titan and 2 MK7 20/20 drones - driver, defender. I have every protection module at MK7 except for striker, tesla and mines. I have a lot of supplies. In spite of all of this I still get killed in 1 microsecond when I encounter most buyers.

[YANUKFIN 493]

17 minutes ago, ghost-guns said:

I have 7 MK7 20/20 turrets - railgun, firebird, freeze, isida, hammer, magnum, twins. I have 2 MK7 20/20 hulls - viking, titan and 2 MK7 20/20 drones - driver, defender. I have every protection module at MK7 except for striker, tesla and mines. I have a lot of supplies. In spite of all of this I still get killed in 1 microsecond when I encounter most buyers.

What augments have you got?

[ghost-guns 1,486]

1 minute ago, YANUKFIN said:

What augments have you got?

The vast majority of turret augments, but the hull augments are spread - so I have EMP immunity on titan but not viking, and I have stun immunity on hunter but not the others.

[YANUKFIN 493]

Just now, ghost-guns said:

The vast majority of turret augments, but the hull augments are spread - so I have EMP immunity on titan but not viking, and I have stun immunity on hunter but not the others.

This i guess is letting you down. Not having augments (a lot) specific to one hull (your fav) is putting you at a extreme disadvantage.

Still, even if you did, the amount of trash OP gear in the game would still take you out quickly. 

The game is OP gimmick after OP gimmick, nerf, buff, etc. The developers will keep it this way for their fav players, the buyers, you tube noobs and the mods. 

[rebar619 93]

Goodbye Tanki. It was fun while it lasted. This is just not fun anymore. Spending a match respawning because there is not a God damn thing you can do about it is not enjoyable, and I am not going to drop $100 for the priviledge of doing so.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Idk, Opex?

[krokorok 838]

There are many reasons for it;

- Main reason - Tanki is an old and outdated game that is still stuck in its Flash era, a game that was never ment to be a game but rather a testing project that grew perhaps too big for its creator

-a monetary model that has been always  based on selling overwhelming power, which always created a rather uncanny difference between players, started with supplies and early OP kits and continues to the future with extremely loopsided gimmicks such as Helios, as it stands the selling of cosmetics model would probably no longer work, given how numb people are towards it after extreme destruction of uniqueness of paints and scarcity of good looking cometics such as Retro or Demonic skins

- the game lost its simplicity element that many players adored, you literally just learned how to play against different combos and with different combos, used supplies and that was it, now the game added way too many mechanics abolishing this quality

- unfunctional and destabilizing updates - MM was meant to be a big thing, but as it turned out, it is completely inferior in most of the aspects to the game that once gave players a free will when choosing the battles. The only really good thing that MM achieved was elimination of heavy multing by planting your alts and friends to enemy team and takeovers. Otherwise, it simply has nothing to offer.  Unfortunately, you are still put in one sided dead battles, u cant choose any map, you cant chose to be put in a battle from the start, multing is still present because of how many low GS players are put against much stronger opponents, etc.

Then we have destabilizing updates - such as addition of Magnum, Hopper, ODs, Drones... Started probably with Magnum - a gun that can damage you without ever getting into your line of sight - a turret that literally singlehandedly eliminated fun maps like Gravity and Noise from map movepool, continued to early Hopper when one took flag and jumped basically directly back to its base, to current days when one drops OD and basically cleans whole base, while teammate does the same mere seconds later

Supercharge? new thing that should not have ever been added and made the game just unbalanced

Nuclear Energy? again new thing that never should have been added as a supply or as a drop given how incredibly centralized the game already was around ODs

critical hits? looked good on paper until you go to battle and get critted literally several times in a row for increased damage - through the currently useless protections that cost too much for they actually do.

- rigid gameplay and removal of skill and teamwork - I miss incredibly the old maps, the small maps, the dynamic of old games, it is rather laughable that DM was eventually removed from modes list under the pretense of not being  a teammode as literally every mode right now is about yourself and only yourself, being further fulled by selfcentred missions..

Also was this game like advertised…. Like ever other than Miniclip? Which is dead beacause it was centered around flash games

Just my two cents on this

 

Edited July 3, 2022 by krokorok

[YANUKFIN 493]

11 minutes ago, krokorok said:

a monetary model that has been always  based on selling overwhelming power

This part of TO will never end, not unless the day comes were the developers greed becomes to much even for the most eager of buyers. ( doubtful though )

The first OP feature that I remember dominating was vulcan. Back then you couldn't even drive in a straight line if it was hitting you.

When hammer was released they neglected to release the protection against it for a long time, felt like years before it came out.

Can't really be bothered to go through the entire list of OP updates, there are just far to many to mention and I believe I have mentioned all of them in previous posts.

The bottom line is that TO is 100% P2W and as long as there are buyers and players that give the developers the  for every update they do, it will continue to be 100% P2W only.

You want to have a say in all of this, do not take part in the TO fund. I have no objection to players complaining, most of it is justifiable, but don't complain if your not going to back your words up with actions. I stopped buying anything in the shop a very long time ago. I have not acquired premium or the battle pass in months and it will remain that way until they lower their prices considerably and un-nerf the regular containers, which as we all know are now absolute trash and on a par with the scamboxes, which have been trash for a very, very long time.