Make the Game Harder

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

I come back to the game and find that my Warrant Officer second account has 5 M2s from some weird MK update. Sales, discounts, and events has lost all thrill because there are simply so many and the game so easy. I kept playing this game because it presented me a challenge, and I felt some value in reaching the highest rank. Now, anyone can complete the garage with an overwhelming amount of crystals leftover and everyone has like 99999999 drugs at their disposal. It's like printing more money: the more money you print, the less money is worth. Sure, the devs are looking at a slim playerbase, but their current measures of making the game easier haven't helped at all - if anything, it drives away older players. Make the game harder. Make it like 2012, where if you don't spend any money on the game, you can afford only like 2 combos. 

[CabbageRoll 3,018]

Exactly, you cant even say that tanki is pay to win now, because with time you can collect enough supplies to drug like a buyer for some time. I have over 15000 of each drug without buying and i doubt i will run out of it any time soon. The only thing devs have messed up is how m2 10/10 is equivalent to mk7, which made it possible for those people to get fully upgraded mk7, which neither free players or buyers can get in low ranks. Gold boxes got ridiculously devalued since the x10 drops. I liked it back then when golds gave more crystals instead of dropping more. I thought i would never say this, but x30 golds feel like time back then when there were 100 crystal boxes, AND I DO NOT LIKE IT AT ALL. Really, what makes tanki online unique is only gold boxes, without them its all about who stacks up more equipment in their garage, and it is pay2winfaster, not pay2win

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

7 minutes ago, CabbageRoll said:

 

I guess you can say that Tanki solved the problem of UP things by making everything OP.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. This was done in Modern Warfare 2 and thus made it one of the most successful and fun games of all time.

Complain all you will, but sometimes the only way to fight fire is with fire.

[TaffyTank 1,890]

If you were a newbie that's likely to have made mistakes like buying too many equipments or buying out of sales. When they did the Mk update (compared to some other more efficient/experienced players that know all about the game features) the chances are your Tank upgrades would be under the threshold to get converted up an Mk level (or 2 when you fully upgrade). You'd be one of those now using UP gear against legends on alts with OP gear.

This game isn't good to real newbies now. Players learning the game controls, economy, drugs and other features should be allowed to make a reasonable amount of mistakes and not get hammered for it. Anyone with an account that sucks compared to opponents pretty much stalls their progress and turns them into cannon fodder for experienced players using their alt accounts. To solve this you can grind, buy, start a new account or quit. A new player might not know how best to grind crystals with a trash garage or not be into the game enough yet to buy or restart, so bye Tanki!

I agree high ranks on low rank alts is gonna be too easy now if you have OP gear, always has been. Even in 2012 I could start a new account and be far more efficient in buying items than a genuine newbie, then having a better garage than the majority of competitors.

This could possibly be solved by having a MM system that isn't total rubbish and actually pits good players with good gear and lots of drugs evenly against each other....same for newbies with UP gear.

But overall, it's always gonna be a problem to find the balance of what the game difficulty should be when considering you can have total newbies pitted against players with 1000+ hours exp at the same rank.

[Maf 32,300]

I don't know man, maybe I'm just bad, but at high ranks where everyone has OP gear I find that it's actually not that easy to dominate. The modifications conversion did have issues which gave some players a big advantage, but the advantage is temporary since you will gradually lose it as you progress through the ranks.

[Sacrifice 2,278]

Just to let you know, I bought my hornet m1 when I was a WO5 and Railgun M1 when I was a second lieutenant. I only played with railgun and hornet as any other combo I had was just m0. Lieutenant ranks were the most hardest to cross because I was procrastinating. I crossed other ranks like major and above faster because magically, somehow, I had bought m2 XP by then. I ONLY played Xpbp and Fire/hornet during all of my general and marshal ranks. 

The game is still hard without buying. But you guys at the lower ranks due to mk update have a significant advantage. Even today I rarely play MM due to *cough*. 

[r_Given6 859]

7 minutes ago, Sacrifice said:

Even today I rarely play MM due to *cough*. 

I hope it's just a case of common cold and you get well soon. 

[Sacrifice 2,278]

11 minutes ago, Given said:

I hope it's just a case of common cold and you get well soon. 

:x *cough* *cough* yea- *cough*

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

4 hours ago, Maf said:

I don't know man, maybe I'm just bad, but at high ranks where everyone has OP gear I find that it's actually not that easy to dominate. 

This topic is mostly centered around the gaming experience when there is still rank progression (so not high ranks). At high ranks, everyone has OP gear and reasonably do. At lower ranks, I think the experience would be better if players were presented an actual challenge. Right now, the only thing stopping a new player from reaching Legend is time and 1.6 million exp points. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

2 hours ago, sensei_tanker said:

reaching Legend is time and 1.6 million exp points. 

I'd rather just stay as far from legend rank as I can for as long as possible. No I can't deny the inevitable, but I'm doing pretty good doing it.

 

Might take me 2+ years to reach marshal rank with the rate I'm going.

[wolverine848 13,097]

14 hours ago, sensei_tanker said:

Make the game harder. Make it like 2012, where if you don't spend any money on the game, you can afford only like 2 combos. 

It's still mostly like this.

The only players who have 4 combos or so at low-mid ranks are...

- buyers or

- those that got extemely lucky with a container reward or

- those that don't put many upgrades into the many combos (each combo is below average) or

- don't buy things like drones or even modules ( there are a surprising number of players in battles with below-average modules)

 

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

3 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

It's still mostly like this.

The only players who have 4 combos or so at low-mid ranks are...

- buyers or

- those that got extemely lucky with a container reward or

- those that don't put many upgrades into the many combos (each combo is below average) or

- don't buy things like drones or even modules ( there are a surprising number of players in battles with below-average modules)

 

I think participating a decent amount in the war, playing and completing missions everyday would be enough for a player to afford 5 or 6 combos.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 minute ago, sensei_tanker said:

I think participating a decent amount in the war, playing and completing missions everyday would be enough for a player to afford 5 or 6 combos.

Well, if you are participating in a "decent amount" of the WAR, you will be usig up a LOT of supplies.  And at that point, you might as well try to get as far into the Challenge as well.  In-for-a-penny in-for-a-pound so to speak.  So IMO you are playing more than a "decent amount".  It's pretty much grinding.

The casual player will not be obtaining 5 or 6 combos.  Costs way to much to upgrade them - those last few steps are prohibitive, and take a long time without speedups. 

I am a casual player that started a new account about a year ago.  So even with experience, and doing missions every week, I could not afford 5 or 6 combos, especially in the first bunch of ranks.  I had two combos + 7 modules up until roughly 3rd Lt.  Then I added 2 more hulls and 1 more turret while ranking up to Lt. General.  And now I sit with 13 of 14 modules at ~ 32% along with the Trooper drone.  I'd have to "grind" to afford more than that.

[StopChasingMe 50]

On 3/15/2020 at 6:56 PM, sensei_tanker said:

I come back to the game and find that my Warrant Officer second account has 5 M2s from some weird MK update. Sales, discounts, and events has lost all thrill because there are simply so many and the game so easy. I kept playing this game because it presented me a challenge, and I felt some value in reaching the highest rank. Now, anyone can complete the garage with an overwhelming amount of crystals leftover and everyone has like 99999999 drugs at their disposal. It's like printing more money: the more money you print, the less money is worth. Sure, the devs are looking at a slim playerbase, but their current measures of making the game easier haven't helped at all - if anything, it drives away older players. Make the game harder. Make it like 2012, where if you don't spend any money on the game, you can afford only like 2 combos. 

Stop upgrading your equipment and using supplies.  Problem solved.

 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

On 3/15/2020 at 6:56 PM, sensei_tanker said:

I come back to the game and find that my Warrant Officer second account has 5 M2s from some weird MK update. Sales, discounts, and events has lost all thrill because there are simply so many and the game so easy. I kept playing this game because it presented me a challenge, and I felt some value in reaching the highest rank. Now, anyone can complete the garage with an overwhelming amount of crystals leftover and everyone has like 99999999 drugs at their disposal. It's like printing more money: the more money you print, the less money is worth. Sure, the devs are looking at a slim playerbase, but their current measures of making the game easier haven't helped at all - if anything, it drives away older players. Make the game harder. Make it like 2012, where if you don't spend any money on the game, you can afford only like 2 combos. 

I randomly jumped to page 10, saw this topic's name, and had the biggest belly laugh.  XDDD

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 3/15/2020 at 9:56 PM, sensei_tanker said:

I come back to the game and find that my Warrant Officer second account has 5 M2s from some weird MK update. Sales, discounts, and events has lost all thrill because there are simply so many and the game so easy. I kept playing this game because it presented me a challenge, and I felt some value in reaching the highest rank. Now, anyone can complete the garage with an overwhelming amount of crystals leftover and everyone has like 99999999 drugs at their disposal. It's like printing more money: the more money you print, the less money is worth. Sure, the devs are looking at a slim playerbase, but their current measures of making the game easier haven't helped at all - if anything, it drives away older players. Make the game harder. Make it like 2012, where if you don't spend any money on the game, you can afford only like 2 combos. 

Everyone might have supplies - but they are no longer the luxury - they are standard.

The P2W aspect has moved to Drones (+batteries) and Augments - especially hull augments (immunities).

Not everyone has those, and the immunities can only be bought with TKs ($) or if you are very lucky in containers.  And some are offered in Challenges but again you need TKs.

[Picassoo 191]

Crystals and XP have been devaluated, as well as supplies, but what's wrong with that (especially the latter)? Non-buyers have much like no chance to max out anyway nor can they access OP equipment at all.

I guess what you want is some extra things to achieve in game, such as achievements that you could flaunt or extra ranks. Otherwise this topic sounds rather ironic.