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I am having troubles liking the Juggernaut battles. I don't like to be a juggernaut because that is not how I battle. I am more of a fast and close range person. I am not a huge fan of railgun or striker. If it could be possible to make a juggernaut personalized to the tank you were using when chosen to be the juggernaut, that would help me. You would be able to take the normal turrets and find ways to reasonably power them up.

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Declined.

This idea would require too much development in order to provide multiple, balanced options for the Juggernaut hull and turret. Plus, there is a high potential that including an update like this would be largely unbalanced, and the Developers would have to devote a large portion of time towards balancing the different types of Juggernaut. Unfortunately, due to these reasons, your idea is declined.

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On 4/1/2020 at 7:32 PM, mineforces100 said:

I am having troubles liking the Juggernaut battles. I don't like to be a juggernaut because that is not how I battle. I am more of a fast and close range person. I am not a huge fan of railgun or striker. If it could be possible to make a juggernaut personalized to the tank you were using when chosen to be the juggernaut, that would help me. You would be able to take the normal turrets and find ways to reasonably power them up.

 

On 4/3/2020 at 8:44 AM, Mr.Nibbles said:

Declined.

This idea would require too much development in order to provide multiple, balanced options for the Juggernaut hull and turret. Plus, there is a high potential that including an update like this would be largely unbalanced, and the Developers would have to devote a large portion of time towards balancing the different types of Juggernaut. Unfortunately, due to these reasons, your idea is declined.

Well, i think the easiest idea for this that there should be a setting to allow you can become the JGR. It would be great for all players: who don't want to be a JGR won't be a JGR, and who want to become the JGR will become easier.

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19 hours ago, featwasath said:

So, you are the kind of JGs that rush into the enemy base as soon as becoming the JG & then get killed easily.? ?

I have rush at the enemy base, made a bunch of kills, go back to hide while waiting for OD and then storming the base again. You definitely have to know when to do it, It has to be the right kind of map, you need enough teammates that are not campers, but it really can be done. I have also knocked over wasps just by charging at them. (without OD) Juggernaut is not exclusively for campers. I understand the feelings of @mineforces100, as I primarily use melee-ranged turrets. Maybe juggernaut would be better if there was a disadvantage for staying in the corner.

Also, I feel even if multiple turrets would be balanced, it would be complicated if you couldn't expect what kind of fire you are facing, and the current Terminator is pretty predictable (but lethal).

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26 minutes ago, ILiveOnTheChatBox123 said:

I have rush at the enemy base, made a bunch of kills, go back to hide while waiting for OD and then storming the base again. You definitely have to know when to do it, It has to be the right kind of map, you need enough teammates that are not campers, but it really can be done. I have also knocked over wasps just by charging at them. (without OD) Juggernaut is not exclusively for campers. I understand the feelings of @mineforces100, as I primarily use melee-ranged turrets. Maybe juggernaut would be better if there was a disadvantage for staying in the corner.

Also, I feel even if multiple turrets would be balanced, it would be complicated if you couldn't expect what kind of fire you are facing, and the current Terminator is pretty predictable (but lethal).

Well, like you said, it's possible when right things are in right order. But these occasions that the JG can survive in enemy base are very rare. Only a well talented & smart player can do it. BTW I wonder how you do it without much railgun skills. Do you have another account that you've mastered railgun well.? 

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1 hour ago, featwasath said:

Well, like you said, it's possible when right things are in right order. But these occasions that the JG can survive in enemy base are very rare. Only a well talented & smart player can do it. BTW I wonder how you do it without much railgun skills. Do you have another account that you've mastered railgun well.? 

It is not so rare to be able to attack the enemy base, I'd say about 40% of the time. Also, you can attack in quieter areas of some maps where there are not too many enemy players. The main part is that you stop attacking when your health is low, and wait for OD to be ready.

You are right, I have used railgun in juggernaut more than I have in any of my alts. My main account is the only one where I own a railgun.  But, if you are able to use your speed and knock-over enemies, you get very easy shots. Its kind of like knowing how to use the hull more than the turret.

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14 minutes ago, ILiveOnTheChatBox123 said:

It is not so rare to be able to attack the enemy base, I'd say about 40% of the time. Also, you can attack in quieter areas of some maps where there are not too many enemy players. The main part is that you stop attacking when your health is low, and wait for OD to be ready.

You are right, I have used railgun in juggernaut more than I have in any of my alts. My main account is the only one where I own a railgun.  But, if you are able to use your speed and knock-over enemies, you get very easy shots. Its kind of like knowing how to use the hull more than the turret.

But in my ranks that chance is far less than 40%. Actually, it's about 5% or something less than that. I've seen many JGs rushed into the enemy base (including me) overestimating their capabilities, almost all of them just died in less than a minute. 

Also, many JGs who rarely use railgun don't know how to properly use the terminator railguns. They just keep trying to lock into enemies with their missile launchers & can't fight well when met with a good rail + hornet/wasp enemy. I find it very easy to kill them with my rail+hornet. Once I killed a JG by going around it circularly & I avoided all its shots, taking zero damage. 

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6 hours ago, featwasath said:

But in my ranks that chance is far less than 40%. Actually, it's about 5% or something less than that. I've seen many JGs rushed into the enemy base (including me) overestimating their capabilities, almost all of them just died in less than a minute. 

Also, many JGs who rarely use railgun don't know how to properly use the terminator railguns. They just keep trying to lock into enemies with their missile launchers & can't fight well when met with a good rail + hornet/wasp enemy. I find it very easy to kill them with my rail+hornet. Once I killed a JG by going around it circularly & I avoided all its shots, taking zero damage. 

I don't think such a discrepancy only because of the ranks. Newer players wouldn't play JGR more than older players. Unless older players don't like trying knew modes as much as newer players so they are less experienced? I don't think it is too hard to develop this technique. Unless players don't bother since it takes much trial and error to get the right sense of attack. But I can't think of a reason why there should be a variation between ranks.

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I actually like the battle but it is not fair because you only become JG when the ur JG is killed and sometimes i have played 25 matches and not become JG plz fix this so every body has a fair chance.

 

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