Supplies Should Be Cheaper

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

Your turret/hull can be one modification under everyone else's and you can do just fine, but if you run out of supplies you're basically screwed. For a majority of players, supplies aren't really much of an issue because TO hands them out basically for free these days - long gone are the days when your only supplies came from daily gifts. But still after a long challenge, I seem to run low on supplies, especially repair kits, and the garage prices make absolutely no sense for supplies. 150 crystals for a repair kit is utterly stupid. I could buy an m0 firebird for the same price as obtaining a repair kit. Because there are so many supplies around anyways, they have been devalued to the point where their current value makes no sense. Since their prices virtually haven't changed since the 2012 rebalance, it makes even more sense to change the value of supplies because there were ten years of change with regards to drugging. 

 

Repair Kits should be 50 crystals a piece. Double power, armor, and nitro should be 25 crystals a piece. Mines should be 10 crystals a piece. I think this is more adjusted to how they actually should be valued. People today usually only buy the supply kit because it's a lot cheaper. We can just get rid of the supply kit altogether with this repricing.

[sharifsahaf 656]

7 minutes ago, sensei_tanker said:

Your turret/hull can be one modification under everyone else's and you can do just fine, but if you run out of supplies you're basically screwed. For a majority of players, supplies aren't really much of an issue because TO hands them out basically for free these days - long gone are the days when your only supplies came from daily gifts. But still after a long challenge, I seem to run low on supplies, especially repair kits, and the garage prices make absolutely no sense for supplies. 150 crystals for a repair kit is utterly stupid. I could buy an m0 firebird for the same price as obtaining a repair kit. Because there are so many supplies around anyways, they have been devalued to the point where their current value makes no sense. Since their prices virtually haven't changed since the 2012 rebalance, it makes even more sense to change the value of supplies because there were ten years of change with regards to drugging. 

 

Repair Kits should be 50 crystals a piece. Double power, armor, and nitro should be 25 crystals a piece. Mines should be 10 crystals a piece. I think this is more adjusted to how they actually should be valued. People today usually only buy the supply kit because it's a lot cheaper. We can just get rid of the supply kit altogether with this repricing.

u forgot to mention batteries .they're ridiculously expensive and a average drone guzzles 5-6 battery per match

[KillerDiesel 188]

Simple solution. Just don't do the challenges.

 

Spend less time on tanki and more time on other things like other games, or outside in your backyard of course or just take the long naps you desire.

 

Too much tanki a day will just mess with your head.

[featwasath 267]

The prices you suggested are too low. Actually, as a non-buyer, I see no problem with the prices of supplies. They're just fine. Lowering the prices will make everyone using supplies and matches will become supply battles. The core gameplay of Tanki Online is independent of supplies. Battles should never become supplies wars

[kydapoot 570]

6 hours ago, sharifsahaf said:

u forgot to mention batteries .they're ridiculously expensive and a average drone guzzles 5-6 battery per match

This is the intention with regards to drones though. The point is that they can't be run in every match without heavy investment; if they were cheap to power then they would be OP. Tanki wants to make sure that people who don't have drones still stand a chance in battle, so they make them all cost 7 pricey batteries per match.

Regarding the other supplies, though, they are indeed way too expensive. The occasion is extremely rare when a single supply increases your battle score enough to earn 50 more crystals, let alone 150. 

[coconuttree 519]

Drug to have fun. Do missions to get drugs. If you seem to be running out, you are drugging too much or playing too much.(imo as a non buyer)

Edited April 29, 2020 by coconuttree

[Catbird 117]

I agree it sucks that supplies seldom pay for themselves, and it can be very tough to go broke on both crystals and supplies. That being said I believe that once you reach a high enough rank the weekly containers give enough supplies to be competitive in challenges and the game, so I think the balance is fair...

[Iol 22]

well it would make us happy... if they would be cheaper maybe we would get more of them from weeklies and missions

[sharifsahaf 656]

4 hours ago, kydapoot said:

This is the intention with regards to drones though. The point is that they can't be run in every match without heavy investment; if they were cheap to power then they would be OP. Tanki wants to make sure that people who don't have drones still stand a chance in battle, so they make them all cost 7 pricey batteries per match.

Regarding the other supplies, though, they are indeed way too expensive. The occasion is extremely rare when a single supply increases your battle score enough to earn 50 more crystals, let alone 150. 

lemme corrrect you .only non-buyers cant use drones for long .open ur eyes- they are OP but only used in every match by buyers .so its not solving imbalance rather causing it .we cant buy and use drones effectively while buyers are and they dominate in every match using those

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

4 hours ago, coconuttree said:

Drug to have fun. Do missions to get drugs. If you seem to be running out, you are drugging too much or playing too much.(imo as a non buyer)

To the intensity of these challenges, you have to drug insanely hard to progress in them. It's mainly an issue for repair kits. Repair Kits are far too expensive, yet the average buyer has way too may of them and can use the repair kit everytime their health is low. This way people are burning like 30 repair kits a battle, and there's no way I can compete if I don't drug that hard as well, simply because everyone else ends up having doubled the health than I do. So, I always run dangerously low on repair kits on my alt.

[coconuttree 519]

18 minutes ago, sensei_tanker said:

 

But why do you want to do the challenges? It isn't even slightly satisfying for me. You need a battle pass to get anything good. The free tier is just drugs and crystals that you use up before you even reach them. That and the occasional shot effect or paint.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

6 hours ago, featwasath said:

The prices you suggested are too low. Actually, as a non-buyer, I see no problem with the prices of supplies. They're just fine. Lowering the prices will make everyone using supplies and matches will become supply battles. The core gameplay of Tanki Online is independent of supplies. Battles should never become supplies wars

You DO realize that battles have been "supply battles" for a VERY long time, right??? Even with the "Smart Cooldown" update; which was made to eliminate said issue, doesn't work. In fact, I remember being in a whole thread about how "Supplies ruin the game" Or something to that degree before Smart Cooldowns were even a thing and it's a problem that has plagued this game for years. But like I said, nothing has changed except for the timing. You can still run all 3 supplies at once if you get the pickups, and use one of your own in the "perfect" scenario, but even that's gonna be brief because of the timing difference on each one. 

Edited April 29, 2020 by Dragon-Judgement

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

17 minutes ago, coconuttree said:

But why do you want to do the challenges? It isn't even slightly satisfying for me. You need a battle pass to get anything good. The free tier is just drugs and crystals that you use up before you even reach them. That and the occasional shot effect or paint.

The first one I ever tried in was the April II challenge because there was a Zeus paint I wanted on my alt account. I did end up getting it, but not before I drained my entire stack of first aids. I refuse to accept that large events like these to only be limited to buyers. 

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

2 minutes ago, sensei_tanker said:

The first one I ever tried in was the April II challenge because there was a Zeus paint I wanted on my alt account. I did end up getting it, but not before I drained my entire stack of first aids. I refuse to accept that large events like these to only be limited to buyers. 

Kinda funny how the price you have to pay as a non-buyer to get things like the Zeus paint from a challenge is seriously devastating to your own personal "economy" if you will. I don't understand why so much weight is on THAT part of the community. They have to slave over the game. And buyers get it easier...but that's another issue.

[coconuttree 519]

9 minutes ago, sensei_tanker said:

 I refuse to accept that large events like these to only be limited to buyers. 

Unfortunately, that's what they are. The crazy weekends were for everyone. The devs switch them out for challenges and put the good stuff behind the battle pass. 

There are some sacrifices we have to make as non buyers. After all, we are playing the game for free.

However, I'm 100% for any changes that benefit non buyers.

Edited April 29, 2020 by coconuttree

[wolverine848 13,097]

10 minutes ago, sensei_tanker said:

The first one I ever tried in was the April II challenge because there was a Zeus paint I wanted on my alt account. I did end up getting it, but not before I drained my entire stack of first aids. I refuse to accept that large events like these to only be limited to buyers. 

But that's the price you pay to do something Optional.  Those of us who do not have the hours don't bother - and we have plenty of supplies (except for batteries).

I have more mines/DD/DA/SB than I could possibly use.  Lots of Rk as well but not to same scale.

[SporkZilla 1,775]

2 hours ago, sensei_tanker said:

because there was a Zeus paint I wanted on my alt account

I managed to get Zeus paint for one of my accounts (also Lt. Col.) without using any supplies, but only because I got 10 days of Premium from a container, not going to make it past level 25 for this challenge, usually get past level 10 without Premium and sometimes to level 15.

That's how much I bother with challenges, even when there is a paint I want (Zeus wasn't one I wanted).

Edited April 29, 2020 by SporkZilla

[KillerDiesel 188]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

But that's the price you pay to do something Optional.  Those of us who do not have the hours don't bother - and we have plenty of supplies (except for batteries).

I have more mines/DD/DA/SB than I could possibly use.  Lots of Rk as well but not to same scale.

Yeah, as of this moment, I have 5417 repair, 18202 double armor, 18097 double damage, 23316 speed boost, 18546 mines, and 3802 batteries on my main account.

 

Four and a half years ago, I used to play a lot of hours each day, so I would constantly be running out of supplies, that was the time I was using railgun and hornet as my main combo.

 

Spending less time on the game does make a huge difference as you can see.

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

3 hours ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

This is why you guys should quit MM battles like I have and stick with PRO battles.

I would if I had the choice. But I gotta complete my missions. 

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

1 hour ago, SporkZilla said:

 

Quoted the wrong person dude lol 

[SporkZilla 1,775]

2 minutes ago, Dragon-Judgement said:

Quoted the wrong person dude lol 

Sorry, I'll sort it out

[featwasath 267]

2 hours ago, Dragon-Judgement said:

You DO realize that battles have been "supply battles" for a VERY long time, right??? Even with the "Smart Cooldown" update; which was made to eliminate said issue, doesn't work. In fact, I remember being in a whole thread about how "Supplies ruin the game" Or something to that degree before Smart Cooldowns were even a thing and it's a problem that has plagued this game for years. But like I said, nothing has changed except for the timing. You can still run all 3 supplies at once if you get the pickups, and use one of your own in the "perfect" scenario, but even that's gonna be brief because of the timing difference on each one. 

Yeah, I agree with you. But lowering the prices of supplies will only worsen the situation

[yellowghetto 3,206]

15 hours ago, sensei_tanker said:

Your turret/hull can be one modification under everyone else's and you can do just fine, but if you run out of supplies you're basically screwed. For a majority of players, supplies aren't really much of an issue because TO hands them out basically for free these days - long gone are the days when your only supplies came from daily gifts. But still after a long challenge, I seem to run low on supplies, especially repair kits, and the garage prices make absolutely no sense for supplies. 150 crystals for a repair kit is utterly stupid. I could buy an m0 firebird for the same price as obtaining a repair kit. Because there are so many supplies around anyways, they have been devalued to the point where their current value makes no sense. Since their prices virtually haven't changed since the 2012 rebalance, it makes even more sense to change the value of supplies because there were ten years of change with regards to drugging. 

 

Repair Kits should be 50 crystals a piece. Double power, armor, and nitro should be 25 crystals a piece. Mines should be 10 crystals a piece. I think this is more adjusted to how they actually should be valued. People today usually only buy the supply kit because it's a lot cheaper. We can just get rid of the supply kit altogether with this repricing.

I recommend you check out some old Tanki X vids on YouTube, supplies should honestly be converted to Supply Modules, not the same section as Protection Modules. Once you get them, you have an infinite amount. It would fix many unfair matches where someone is fasting on supplies in order to save them. Like me.   

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

28 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

I recommend you check out some old Tanki X vids on YouTube, supplies should honestly be converted to Supply Modules, not the same section as Protection Modules. Once you get them, you have an infinite amount. It would fix many unfair matches where someone is fasting on supplies in order to save them. Like me.   

I would only accept this sort of change if the devs didn't make this P2W (so supply modules don't have to be "upgraded" through parts found in containers)

 

Though a cool similar idea would be to bring back the "Infinite Supply Pass" from a Christmas like 6 years ago.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

4 hours ago, featwasath said:

Yeah, I agree with you. But lowering the prices of supplies will only worsen the situation

My response wasn't necessarily in support of lowering the price of supplies, it was just a direct reply to you lol

While I can't say support the idea entirely, I do see what problem he's proposing.