Augments for turrets, container changes, etc.

[kydapoot 570]

Idea: What if Gauss's electromagnetic salvo and Vulcan's rubberized rounds were added into the legendary or exotic tier? It would make them very rare, but still obtainable for the very lucky or for those who don't mind buying a lot of containers.

[Dainsleif 1]

no crystals in xp/bp format battles... i wonder which genius thought of this update, they say format battles are just there to "test and advance our skills", but that makes no sense as format battles are created for a specific combo.... which means that it trains u only when u go against that specific combo... example: in a non-format battle the "training" in format battles wouldnt contribute much if you go against a smoky+vulcan... seems like a stupid attempt to cover up for a dumb decision. Tanki....the paragon of pestilence, wlc 2020

[featwasath 267]

2 hours ago, P_O_T_A_T_O said:

My dumb opinion (as you call it) is that the alteration update is a bad one, i don't defend that update despite the fact that i own ALL the alterations i need on my high ranking account (more than happy to share with your the screenshots).

and thank you for calling me a coward, i'm a coward in fact, because i tried to make people understand the reason behind removing the funds with words, things don't go that way as I've seen, people should be FORCED to do things, Tanki understood this better than me, that's why they "force" updates on people that still play this crap.

well, that's it, i said what i had to say, most of you didn't like it, but it still my opinion, and i have every right to hold on to it, good luck to you all, and have a nice day everybody, i realized since the start that my opinion won't be popular but i didn't know i'll be called a "coward" for it, especially from the same players i belong to, the f2p, oh well, nevermind.

 

 

 

LOL

Seems like an attention seeker to me. 

[Blunt-Knife 55]

56 minutes ago, Leur said:

Because there is already a topic to share your opinion about the update with both players and developers, that's why we keep the topic open for weeks after the update.

There are plenty of topics which could be said are reptitive, i don't see you deleting or merging their posts.

[Blunt-Knife 55]

5 hours ago, Leztah said:

Spoiler

 

'Quite a while ago, we disabled battle funds in private battles. The time has come to finally solve the problem of unfair battle fund boosting through the use of alternative accounts. We have decided to disable battle funds in clan and format battles. These modes are not for earning crystals but for improving your skills, so we hope that you will support us in this decision.

Funds in regular PRO battles and matchmaking battles will remain unchanged.'     - Tanki Online Developers,

 

Hey guys, I don't usually post on forums however, this new update has compelled me to voice the opinions of not only me but my fellow friends in this game. 

So let me address the developers of the game, hopefully they can get someone to translate this into Russian if they do not comprehend English.

First of all let me point out some key mistakes you have made in  the statments above. 

1.'Format battles are for improving your skills.'

Speaking from  the view point of a XP player, I do not play these formats to improve my skills, but I play them for fun as i can play them with more than 3 friends (Which you can't do in matchmaking). Playing formats such as xp/bp allows people to come together and have fun regardless of how many upgrades your railgun, hornet and wasp have. Most xp/bp battles do not have supplies turned on. This allows players with low supplies to play the game in a fair environment where they do not end up with a bad d/l and also perhaps win some games. Yes. it is agreed that some players play xp/bp and other format games to improve their skills, but this shouldn't take away the fact that crystals should be awarded to them for winning and participating.

For my next point, let me link your statements together and show you how they juxtapose each other. 

'The time has come to finally solve the problem of unfair battle fund boosting through the use of alternative accounts.'

'Funds in regular PRO battles and matchmaking battles will remain unchanged.'

If you have removed funds from format battles so that you can stop battle fund boosting through the use of alternative accounts, what stops the 'battle boosters' from making a pro battle and doing the same thing? 

Do you see how removing funds from format battles, still doesnt eradicate the battle boosters from doing the same in other battles ?

Now that I've shown you why what your update has done hasn't actually solved the problems you have exhibited, let me tell you some more information which I fell you either don't know or are overseeing.

Many player use format battles such as XP/BP to earn crystals to better and enhance their garages. As I said previously, format battles such as xp/bp provide a fair and equal environment for players to play battles and earn crystals. Some players also just earn crystals to get nice paints ! 

Players who do not have good garages will suffer from this update as the rate of crystals which they earn will be significantly decreased. in additions to this they won't enjoy the game as much as they are more likely to be killed in Pro battles and Match making battles and are also more likely to lose. This takes the enjoyment out of games because lets be honest who wants to log into a game and lose more games than they win?

Now, let's say some player due to your update start playing xp/bp in pro battles so they can earn crystals, there will be people who ruin this by joining the game with different equipment which also ruins the game for the players. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I have seen, I earn more crystals in Match Making than I do in Pro battles and format battles in the same period of time. A 2 vs 2 xp/bp 5-7 flag game usually lasts 10-15 minutes long and the crystals earned from it are about 200-500 crystals. In a Match making game, A 7 MINUTE long game 500+ crystals can be earned easily and you don't even have to be first place, you can be somewhere in the middle.  

Surely It would make sense for people who do 'battle boosting' to go play match making ?

What I can see from this is that people who play format battles will start leaving the game or play less frequently which will be bad for you, the developers of the game. 

As of today the first day of this update, i have already seen less format  games which shows you that people don't play format games more for bettering their skills but they play it for the crystals and fun of it. What is even worse is that I have not seen ONE 6 vs 6 xp/bp battle.  This should be a testimont to why you should put battle funs back into format battles. 

Many people believe that the game is becoming a PAY TO WIN game, as the benefits for people who buy in the game are far out weighing the options for people who do not buy in the game.

Many would say that this portrays YOU, the developers as being corrupt by trying to increase the income of yourselves and not helping better the community and the game itself which isn't a good perspective for people to have on you.

 

There have been many updates which allow people to buy and send you their money, but please don't make xp/pbp player suffer. 

Due to you removing crystals in xp/bp battles it recudes the likelehood of people playing such formats. This affects the Tankisport system as less people will be willing to play formats such as light format and xp/bp due to the fact they are not as compelled to play xp/bp as much. 

This will affect the Tankisport league system as there will be less clans in third league which will try to push to second league and therefore causing the 1st and 2nd league to become monotonous becuase it will be the same clans playing over and over again. 

 

Also, one last thing before I conclude. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE BOOSTING BATTLE FUNDS. It doesn't affect us.

 

I'd like to ask Tanki Developers to rethink the decisions to remove battle funds from format battles, as this does not stop battle boosting and reduces the fun of playing formats such as xp/bp.

 

 

 

 

 

Guys read this.

 

They deleted my topic so less people will read this post.

Edited April 30, 2020 by Leur
Spoiler added.

[BP.XP.GOD 1]

I wonder whether tanki likes scamming  people so much that they want people to invest 10$ at the minimum wow , XP/BP was the only thing which had made tanki fun and the amount of crystals already being received is less than MM but yet it is so much fun playing with friends , XP/BP funds are very good , the teams can be balanced , in MM there are always separation , I see buyers in 1 side and non buyers in other why does tanki do that? To promote buyers to buy more and non buyers to start buying? It is a waste..

Add alterations back , give it in crystals the new containers don't give us alterations we need , it is not a great update...

[Builder 1]

If you want to Protest against Tanki DONT BUY ANYTHING! Only then they will understand. 

Edited April 30, 2020 by Builder

[P_O_T_A_T_O 147]

1 hour ago, featwasath said:

LOL

Seems like an attention seeker to me. 

idk about that since i didn't say the word "me" in most of my posts while you said it in about few words, it Seems like YOU are the ONLY attention seeker here.

well, you want some random attention, there you have it, enjoy.

Edited April 30, 2020 by P_O_T_A_T_O

[Thomas11239 366]

1 minute ago, P_O_T_A_T_O said:

idk about that since i didn't say the word "me" word in most of my posts while you said it in about few words, it Seems like YOU are the ONLY attention seeker here.

well, you want some random attention, there you have it, enjoy.

Well you don't always have to use that bright wite color to get ''attention'' or whatever it is for.

[P_O_T_A_T_O 147]

12 minutes ago, Thomas11239 said:

Well you don't always have to use that bright wite color to get ''attention'' or whatever it is for.

you can use it too if you like, it's not against any rule you know, i mainly use it to be able to see my posts whenever i got back to the forum.

with that being clearly stated, i won't reply to any further comment that talk about me & have nothing to do with the main thread, because i don't have to explain myself to anyone, stay on the main topic please, i get it, most of you don't like me just for saying that removing funds from XP/BP mode is justifiable, hating on me won't change my opinion nor revert the update.

in fact, i'm gonna use green just for the fun of it, i'm a free man, heck i can even use red if i want to ! 

Edited April 30, 2020 by P_O_T_A_T_O

[The-Kill-Switch 96]

2nd post in this topic. just to say that my problem is the stupid change to what was before a good feature that  we knew as alterations. 

my thoughts on the changes to funds in format battles is that its good. format battles are for improving with 1 thing against 1 things. the real skill is shown when fighting up against all different combos (that you find inn regular pro battles). not being able to get crystals in format battles is fine as long as you can in normal pro battles since they take more skill to succeed in (providing you arent scum who just uses the most op stuff).

[Showbot 819]

3 hours ago, Leur said:

Because there is already a topic to share your opinion about the update with both players and developers, that's why we keep the topic open for weeks after the update.

Well as you can see all people here except some guy called potato have the same opinion, guess what nobody will care about it

[BlueDragon_tamki 15]

21 minutes ago, Showbot said:

Well as you can see all people here except some guy called potato have the same opinion, guess what nobody will care about it

well that's unfortunately obvious

[Blunt-Knife 55]

5 hours ago, Leztah said:

'Quite a while ago, we disabled battle funds in private battles. The time has come to finally solve the problem of unfair battle fund boosting through the use of alternative accounts. We have decided to disable battle funds in clan and format battles. These modes are not for earning crystals but for improving your skills, so we hope that you will support us in this decision.

Funds in regular PRO battles and matchmaking battles will remain unchanged.'     - Tanki Online Developers,

 

Hey guys, I don't usually post on forums however, this new update has compelled me to voice the opinions of not only me but my fellow friends in this game. 

So let me address the developers of the game, hopefully they can get someone to translate this into Russian if they do not comprehend English.

First of all let me point out some key mistakes you have made in  the statments above. 

1.'Format battles are for improving your skills.'

Speaking from  the view point of a XP player, I do not play these formats to improve my skills, but I play them for fun as i can play them with more than 3 friends (Which you can't do in matchmaking). Playing formats such as xp/bp allows people to come together and have fun regardless of how many upgrades your railgun, hornet and wasp have. Most xp/bp battles do not have supplies turned on. This allows players with low supplies to play the game in a fair environment where they do not end up with a bad d/l and also perhaps win some games. Yes. it is agreed that some players play xp/bp and other format games to improve their skills, but this shouldn't take away the fact that crystals should be awarded to them for winning and participating.

For my next point, let me link your statements together and show you how they juxtapose each other. 

'The time has come to finally solve the problem of unfair battle fund boosting through the use of alternative accounts.'

'Funds in regular PRO battles and matchmaking battles will remain unchanged.'

If you have removed funds from format battles so that you can stop battle fund boosting through the use of alternative accounts, what stops the 'battle boosters' from making a pro battle and doing the same thing? 

Do you see how removing funds from format battles, still doesnt eradicate the battle boosters from doing the same in other battles ?

Now that I've shown you why what your update has done hasn't actually solved the problems you have exhibited, let me tell you some more information which I fell you either don't know or are overseeing.

Many player use format battles such as XP/BP to earn crystals to better and enhance their garages. As I said previously, format battles such as xp/bp provide a fair and equal environment for players to play battles and earn crystals. Some players also just earn crystals to get nice paints ! 

Players who do not have good garages will suffer from this update as the rate of crystals which they earn will be significantly decreased. in additions to this they won't enjoy the game as much as they are more likely to be killed in Pro battles and Match making battles and are also more likely to lose. This takes the enjoyment out of games because lets be honest who wants to log into a game and lose more games than they win?

Now, let's say some player due to your update start playing xp/bp in pro battles so they can earn crystals, there will be people who ruin this by joining the game with different equipment which also ruins the game for the players. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I have seen, I earn more crystals in Match Making than I do in Pro battles and format battles in the same period of time. A 2 vs 2 xp/bp 5-7 flag game usually lasts 10-15 minutes long and the crystals earned from it are about 200-500 crystals. In a Match making game, A 7 MINUTE long game 500+ crystals can be earned easily and you don't even have to be first place, you can be somewhere in the middle.  

Surely It would make sense for people who do 'battle boosting' to go play match making ?

What I can see from this is that people who play format battles will start leaving the game or play less frequently which will be bad for you, the developers of the game. 

As of today the first day of this update, i have already seen less format  games which shows you that people don't play format games more for bettering their skills but they play it for the crystals and fun of it. What is even worse is that I have not seen ONE 6 vs 6 xp/bp battle.  This should be a testimont to why you should put battle funs back into format battles. 

Many people believe that the game is becoming a PAY TO WIN game, as the benefits for people who buy in the game are far out weighing the options for people who do not buy in the game.

Many would say that this portrays YOU, the developers as being corrupt by trying to increase the income of yourselves and not helping better the community and the game itself which isn't a good perspective for people to have on you.

 

There have been many updates which allow people to buy and send you their money, but please don't make xp/pbp player suffer. 

Due to you removing crystals in xp/bp battles it recudes the likelehood of people playing such formats. This affects the Tankisport system as less people will be willing to play formats such as light format and xp/bp due to the fact they are not as compelled to play xp/bp as much. 

This will affect the Tankisport league system as there will be less clans in third league which will try to push to second league and therefore causing the 1st and 2nd league to become monotonous becuase it will be the same clans playing over and over again. 

 

Also, one last thing before I conclude. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE BOOSTING BATTLE FUNDS. It doesn't affect us.

 

I'd like to ask Tanki Developers to rethink the decisions to remove battle funds from format battles, as this does not stop battle boosting and reduces the fun of playing formats such as xp/bp.

 

 

 

 

 

Woah I wrote so much o.o  U guys should read it.

[Mirza7 235]

I have a suggestion regarding battle funds in private/format battles: Since such battles are played between friends/clan mates and such in order to test/improve skill and having fun, regular battle fund system is not right. but completely disabling funds will make them to worthless and discouraging.

Therefore, add a new funding system:

Option-1: every player contribute X amount of crystals (X for all players is equal, set by battle creator), winning team gets funds distributed according to score and losing team get nothing. (In my opinion this is more fun)

Option-2: funds still come from players but distributed based only on score. winning or losing doesn't matter.

Option-Clan battles: add something like clan fund and use it to fund inter/intra clan battles.

[Mosad 962]

2 hours ago, Leztah said:

There are plenty of topics which could be said are reptitive, i don't see you deleting or merging their posts.

Feel free to report any, and we will take care of it. 

 

2 hours ago, Leztah said:

They deleted my topic so less people will read this post.

FYI we didn't delete your topic, we merged it into this topic. You will find your topic in the comments. 
 

24 minutes ago, Showbot said:

Well as you can see all people here except some guy called potato have the same opinion, guess what nobody will care about it

As Marcus said all your posts here will be sent to the developers, that's what we can do. 

 

[Devoid 2,601]

1 minute ago, Mirza7 said:

 

Please create a topic with your idea in the Ideas and Suggestions section, otherwise it could be completely forgotten about. Thank you!

[Los_AngeIes 11]

This is only the beginning.

Next Step will be to remove gaining experience from Formats battles. Then remove Experience and Crystals for all Pro battles.

That is were they are aiming to, sadly.

[jjg_the_dark 455]

10 minutes ago, Leztah said:

Woah I wrote so much o.o  U guys should read it.

Amen brother, but I got news for you! You have wasted your time writing because the developers are inbred with the Soviet mentality of "we know what's best for you" and they are not going to read any of this. If, they do, they will certainly ignore it just like they have ignore similar comments that we have been making since the MM system was forced down on us.  It is amazing that no one in the Tanki organization has even questioned let alone address the fact that the player base went from 70,000+ (at least when I started a few years back) down to barely 20,000. Even during Holidays with all the discounts and sales, they barely hit 30,000 for a few hours. If they read the comments here they would understand why. 

But hey, let's screw the game some more and then we will have another Sale!

[P_O_T_A_T_O 147]

36 minutes ago, Mirza7 said:

I have a suggestion regarding battle funds in private/format battles: Since such battles are played between friends/clan mates and such in order to test/improve skill and having fun, regular battle fund system is not right. but completely disabling funds will make them to worthless and discouraging.

Therefore, add a new funding system:

Option-1: every player contribute X amount of crystals (X for all players is equal, set by battle creator), winning team gets funds distributed according to score and losing team get nothing. (In my opinion this is more fun)

Option-2: funds still come from players but distributed based only on score. winning or losing doesn't matter.

Option-Clan battles: add something like clan fund and use it to fund inter/intra clan battles.

This is actually a very interesting idea !

however, the only problem isn't in the idea itself or in the implementation process, but rather in the players themselves, our greedy crystal farmers (ex wasp/fire noobs, and ex XP/BP players) will sooner or later find out that it's a great way to move crystals from one account to the other, hint why it will NEVER be implemented.

Tanki got way too greedy in their quest to make more money, there is no doubt about it, but some players here have the same attitude (or even worse), i remember when gold events where held in pro battles, a LOT of greedy players created wasp/fire battles and got +200 golds each during those days, they didn't think about how bad it is for the system to earn +200 000 crystals in 24 hours or how OP their garage will be compared to other causal players, they cared only about themselves, and that's what made Tanki care less about them either, not cool for everyone as all of us lost modes that we used to enjoy, but hey, on this one we should blame no one but ourselves, the community is more  toxic than the updates.

Edited April 30, 2020 by P_O_T_A_T_O

[Blunt-Knife 55]

35 minutes ago, jjg_the_dark said:

Amen brother, but I got news for you! You have wasted your time writing because the developers are inbred with the Soviet mentality of "we know what's best for you" and they are not going to read any of this. If, they do, they will certainly ignore it just like they have ignore similar comments that we have been making since the MM system was forced down on us.  It is amazing that no one in the Tanki organization has even questioned let alone address the fact that the player base went from 70,000+ (at least when I started a few years back) down to barely 20,000. Even during Holidays with all the discounts and sales, they barely hit 30,000 for a few hours. If they read the comments here they would understand why. 

But hey, let's screw the game some more and then we will have another Sale!

Agreed, It has never seemed like they care about us. 

 

I also believe this why we have had numerous community managers. As they felt like the developers weren't listening.

[Signal 329]

Marcus can you actually tell us please what you think about this update, and aslo if you think tanki devs will take any notice of the community in regards to the feedback here

[Regency 2,099]

5 minutes ago, rebmoshe said:

Marcus can you actually tell us please what you think about this update, and aslo if you think tanki devs will take any notice of the community in regards to the feedback here

 

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

4 minutes ago, rebmoshe said:

Marcus can you actually tell us please what you think about this update, and aslo if you think tanki devs will take any notice of the community in regards to the feedback here

The silly name has to be changed! Even @Maf is a great supporter of this issue:

11 hours ago, Maf said:

I guess that "moment" has gone.

Title changed to "Ideas for Augmenterations"

 

10 hours ago, At_Shin said:

Please make it 'Ideas for Augments' as ''Augmenterations'' is not a real word.

 

10 hours ago, Maf said:

But it sounds funny 

(also I hate the new name "augments")

I think this should be changed to ''Augmenterations''.

 

1 hour ago, Mr.Nibbles said:

Please create a topic with your idea in the Ideas and Suggestions section, 

Can I suggest this name-change in the I&S?

[Devoid 2,601]

Just now, ILiveOnTheChatBox123 said:

Can I suggest this name-change in the I&S?

Don't worry, I noticed the noob spelling by @Maf, and changed it. The topic is now titled "Ideas for Augmentations!"