Augments for turrets, container changes, etc.

[Boeing747-800plane 45]

3 hours ago, jjg_the_dark said:

Sir, I beg to differ! In the course of my professional work as an employee and a consultant to major Fortune 100 companies all over the world, I have met many dumb decision makers that outnumber the intelligent ones! As far as the Tanki developers goes, I am sorry to say that they are the most unintelligent people that I have ever had the unfortunate luck to come across! Besides that fact that as programmers are proven over and over they are not all that they pretend to be, they are even worse as business managers.  I understand wanting to make money.  every business, even non-profit organizations, have a goal to make money because that's the way a business survives.  The key to it, is knowing how to go about making that money. Certainly, not listening to your customers and making decisions that severely impact your number of customers  is not one of them.  You will not deny that the player number has dwindled for over 70000 to under 20000 and based on the comments of most people here this number is going to be reduced even more.  Besides, before pushing people to Matchmaking they need to make sure that Matchmaking works.  The system that the Tanki developers call Matchmaking is a hodge-podge of code so buggy, that makes the game at times unplayable. Let me put it in a way that you will understand:

1. Reducing the time of battles to 7 min is just not working for any skill development or strategy.

2. Dumping players in unbalanced battles that end within mere seconds of entering the game is criminal.

3. Having from a few seconds to a few minutes to get "1st 3 places in a winning team" mission cannot be considered "intelligent" decision by the developers.

5.  Pitting players against players 5 ranks higher is not a fair game.

6. Perhaps profit have been boosted in the short term but I highly doubt it as these moves seems to come out of desperation for money rather than improving the game itself.

In a nutshell, if Tanki wants to make money, then perhaps should listen more to the customers and make it worthwhile to spend money instead of making changes based on a simple speculation that more players will play in a flawed MM game! I guess the "intelligent" developers do not have the common sense to realize that more people play XP/BP (I am not one of them) and Pro battles because they DO NOT like the MM system! (at least not in its present format)

I can write an entire dissertation on what Tanki is doing wrong to squeeze more money out of the little loyal base they have but it is not worth my time.

All I am saying is, compared to other Multiplayer games, Tanki is ranked among the worst as far errors and stability goes.  

So, try as much as you want to explain the dumb ass decisions, they still remain dumb ass decisions!

enough said.

Please type the entire dissertation!  I am willing to read it 

[jjg_the_dark 455]

Just now, Ap3xA1pha said:

Prove that they're dumb as a rock.

 

1 minute ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

Prove that they're dumb as a rock.

Have nothing to prove. Their actions prove it. They went from 70000+ users to less than 20000 in less than 3 years! And judging by the reaction to this "update" the numbers will dwindle further. If that is not proof enough then go take a piss and feel better.

[jjg_the_dark 455]

7 minutes ago, Boeing747-800plane said:

Please type the entire dissertation!  I am willing to read it 

Sorry but I really have better things to do with my time! 

[jjg_the_dark 455]

1 minute ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

Actually their actions show they're greedy and nothing if not relentless to get a few extra bucks here and there. Honestly I think you're stupid if you genuinely believe the devs are stupid. If anything they're pretty darn clever because their profits are probably sky high these days.

Problem with comprehension much? I did not say they are stupid. I said they dumb as a rock which is worse than stupid.  I am not much into speculation regarding profits because these actions show that they are desperate for cash and that this HTML5 project is bleeding them dry. Let alone the fact that they too a nice financial bath with TankiX and now they are trying to make up they huge losses.  You can believe whatever you want and you are entitled to your opinion. After all opinions are like assholes "everybody got one"  I gave my facts in another post and not only I say they are dumb as a rock, they are also incompetent programmers. Go play WoT or another game and then come and tell me how many times you will get "an error has occurred"  Or if you will pay for equipment and then all of a sudden they will be changed for the worst. It is happening only in Tanki. 

[BlueDragon_tamki 15]

2 hours ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

[…] They know exactly what they're doing. Plus, on a side note, I heard Russian people have on average some of the highest IQs in the world.

not in this case

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, jjg_the_dark said:

 Go play WoT 

I've played WoT, and I've never been able to get into it. Here's why:

• Premium (gold) ammo is basically a cheat pass. You don't have to worry about where to hit them. (For any non WoT players, gold ammo are what drugs were in 2014.)
• Russian bias and underdeveloped tech trees. 
• Seal clubbing is a very real issue once you get into Tier V. (For non WoT players, imagine a Legend who has been playing since 2014 joining a battle filled with Warrant officers who only created an account a month ago)
• No purpose for heavy tanks
•  

tl;dr: the grass is always greener on the other side of the hill. Both games are terrible.

[jjg_the_dark 455]

13 minutes ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

Stupid and dumb as a rock can mean the same thing. And why do you assume they're actually planning to continue supporting the game? They're probably gonna shut it down after milking as much money as possible. Even if the game's riddled with bugs they probably don't give a damn because it's gonna be gone soon anyway. Just because you think their game sucks doesn't mean they're incompetent, it could all be part of their master plan to extract money and then press the kill switch.

And not to mention that WoT has a much larger dev team and is and always has been more popular than Tanki so comparisons with it are pointless.

Well if you do not understand the difference between "stupid" and "Dumb as a rock" that is your problem.  Since I know a little bit about Information Technology I can tell you that the size of the developer team has nothing to do with the quality of the product.  You can have 1 competent programmer produce much better program than 100 so and so programmers. Developers like the ones Tank has would not last not even a month in a real company especially when the company charges money for a product.  If that product produces "an error has occurred" and they have not fixed it in a reasonable amount of time they would be gone.  This error alone has plagued Tanki for over 5 years now!  And you are right, there is no way we can compare a product that works like it is supposed to work with the garbage that Tanki has produced and they have the audacity to charge money for it!

Either you are working for tanki or you must be a butt hurt buyer to defend them so vigorously!,  

[jjg_the_dark 455]

2 minutes ago, SamGamgee55 said:

I've played WoT, and I've never been able to get into it. Here's why:

• Premium (gold) ammo is basically a cheat pass. You don't have to worry about where to hit them. (For any non WoT players, gold ammo are what drugs were in 2014.)
• Russian bias and underdeveloped tech trees. 
• Seal clubbing is a very real issue once you get into Tier V. (For non WoT players, imagine a Legend who has been playing since 2014 joining a battle filled with Warrant officers who only created an account a month ago)
• No purpose for heavy tanks
•  

tl;dr: the grass is always greener on the other side of the hill. Both games are terrible.

Did not say it did not have issues.  However, from a programming perspective, you do not get the lag and the errors you get in Tanki and the MM system IS balanced. Battles start with the teams having equal amount of players, you do not get dumped in battle that ends in mere seconds, and you never have play against players that are higher than 1 rank. In Tanki we see battles with rank discrepancy of 7 ranks higher than you.  Perhaps some people like to get killed by one-shot!  

[jjg_the_dark 455]

2 minutes ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

I'm defending their intelligence, not their actions. If you had been checking this forum lately you would know that I'm one of their harshest critics.

As to the rest of your post, I'm rolling my eyes 

Again trying to defend something that does not exist but that is your prerogative. You can roll your eyes as much as you want, just be careful not too strain them much because you may miss that famous "an error has occurred".  

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

On 5/1/2020 at 5:01 AM, Thiedes said:

Please refrain from sharing such links as developers wont conclude any feedback from such external counts but only through its own official source.

Thanks for being helpful, and providing the logical explanation. There are some mods out there that won't do that.

[Blunt-Knife 55]

12 hours ago, jjg_the_dark said:

Sir, I beg to differ! In the course of my professional work as an employee and a consultant to major Fortune 100 companies all over the world, I have met many dumb decision makers that outnumber the intelligent ones! As far as the Tanki developers goes, I am sorry to say that they are the most unintelligent people that I have ever had the unfortunate luck to come across! Besides that fact that as programmers are proven over and over they are not all that they pretend to be, they are even worse as business managers.  I understand wanting to make money.  every business, even non-profit organizations, have a goal to make money because that's the way a business survives.  The key to it, is knowing how to go about making that money. Certainly, not listening to your customers and making decisions that severely impact your number of customers  is not one of them.  You will not deny that the player number has dwindled for over 70000 to under 20000 and based on the comments of most people here this number is going to be reduced even more.  Besides, before pushing people to Matchmaking they need to make sure that Matchmaking works.  The system that the Tanki developers call Matchmaking is a hodge-podge of code so buggy, that makes the game at times unplayable. Let me put it in a way that you will understand:

1. Reducing the time of battles to 7 min is just not working for any skill development or strategy.

2. Dumping players in unbalanced battles that end within mere seconds of entering the game is criminal.

3. Having from a few seconds to a few minutes to get "1st 3 places in a winning team" mission cannot be considered "intelligent" decision by the developers.

5.  Pitting players against players 5 ranks higher is not a fair game.

6. Perhaps profit have been boosted in the short term but I highly doubt it as these moves seems to come out of desperation for money rather than improving the game itself.

In a nutshell, if Tanki wants to make money, then perhaps should listen more to the customers and make it worthwhile to spend money instead of making changes based on a simple speculation that more players will play in a flawed MM game! I guess the "intelligent" developers do not have the common sense to realize that more people play XP/BP (I am not one of them) and Pro battles because they DO NOT like the MM system! (at least not in its present format)

I can write an entire dissertation on what Tanki is doing wrong to squeeze more money out of the little loyal base they have but it is not worth my time.

All I am saying is, compared to other Multiplayer games, Tanki is ranked among the worst as far errors and stability goes.  

So, try as much as you want to explain the dumb ass decisions, they still remain dumb ass decisions!

enough said.

Couldn't agree with you more, I'm studying a course which relies on meeting consumer demands whilst also meets boundaries and regulations to maximize profit. 

[BlueDragon_tamki 15]

2 hours ago, DOUBLE-6 said:

all these bad vibes and the devs still wont change a thing. ive been saying it for months now MM (WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN MASSIVELY UN-BALANCED) and HULL OVERDRIVES (WHICH HAVE TOTALLY WRECKED THE BATTLES) are here to stay. im surprised coinboxes are still on display as they are totally useless compared to when they were first introduced to the game. the rewards you get from them are pathetic now. and there latest update to take all the alts out of the garage and force you to buy containers in the bleak hope you get the one you want for the hull you want is just ANOTHER MONEY MAKING CON. doesnt bother me any more my acc is now retired ive reached legend which was my goal so do your worst you thieving lying decieving fork tongued back stabbing hypocrites. your just like politicians the world over NO ONE BELIEVES A WORD YOU SAY. YOU HAVE LOST ALL FAITH ANY OF THE PLAYERS HAD IN YOU . YOU DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT WE WANT AS LONG AS YOUR POCKETS ARE LINED WITH CASH. and im screening this just in case you delete it like you have with a few others from other players who see you for what you are..........S N A K E S.....HAVE A NICE DAY NOW.   

o_o

[MaX100KilLeR 1]

17 hours ago, jjg_the_dark said:

I guess the "intelligent" developers do not have the common sense to realize that more people play XP/BP (I am not one of them) and Pro battles because they DO NOT like the MM system! (at least not in its present format)

Couldn't agree more.

But common sense is not so common in here.

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

Only team who have 4+ drones can win now. Overdrives, drones have made hulls n modules weaker. And now I see vulcans who don't burn themselves but will burn your tank, yeah they have hull alt. I think next they going to move overdrive n drone in shop..

I always face same kinda 3 clan group players, n almost no clan in my team...

Tanki is free to play....

Edited May 3, 2020 by The_Pakistani

[wolverine848 13,097]

17 minutes ago, The_Pakistani said:

I see vulcans who don't burn themselves but will burn your tank

How does that actually work?

Thought you had to overheat for that alteration to kick in.

If you have fire Immunity equipped you can't overheat.  Does not seem right...

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

5 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

How does that actually work?

Thought you had to overheat for that alteration to kick in.

If you have fire Immunity equipped you can't overheat.  Does not seem right...

Happened with me many times.. I quited those battles..

[wolverine848 13,097]

The game is just terrible.

If it's not...

- Hornet-Magnum RGC's running around one-shotting you as you spawn (2-spawns-in-a-row) it's...

- Vulcan somehow using incendiary-band with fire immunity and never overheating (even though that's a requirement to use the alt) or it's...

- unbalanced battles - both team-wise and rank-wise.

Just awful.  Hardly worth playing anymore.

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

You will not admit, I have left more than 50% battles in middle since couple of weeks. Wasted supplies n time.. 

[The_Professional 125]

I really like heat immunity alt xd

[Reddkuest 48]

See it that way, they succeeded driving the complaining off the Hornet problem.

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 minutes ago, Reddkuest said:

See it that way, they succeeded driving the complaining off the Hornet problem.

hardly - look at the first bullet in my rant...

[Reddkuest 48]

23 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

hardly - look at the first bullet in my rant...

Missed it, haven't been on the forum in a few  days.

 

Played a bit last 2 days, teams half comprised of Hornets are common. 9 Hulls in game, over 40% used are Hornet. Tsk.

 

Next: Drones in containers. Likely next Winter.

[JohnMatrix 18]

XP/BP players - welcome to the real world. Now stop being blind ostriches - get out of sandbox & join the rest of us here in serengeti!

[sunhawk 99]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

- unbalanced battles - both team-wise and rank-wise.

You would think they would have noticed, from their stats, just how incredibly often ctf and rgb games end 5-0. Something is so wrong....But they're all "la de da, this is great. Money seems to keep coming in, so...."

[hiramdoe 50]

Okay here are my thoughts , they said they removed funds from xp/bp batttles because people unfairly used to power level to get crystals and experience. Why not do the same for MM battles , build a mechanism that does not allow more than 3 people from friends or clans in same battles . Now you might be saying am I high since its already there . However , if you go on event mode you will find 5-6 people clicking the event battle at same time and being in same battle. Not just once but it happened a majority of times. How is this fair?