New Container Project To Learn Reward Probability

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

To quote the community manager: “Updated containers:
 

The regular container has been replaced with a new one. In addition to all previous rewards, this one contains all Augments for turrets and hulls.

Augments for turrets as well as for hulls can no longer be bought from the Garage. The only way to get them is from containers.

Updated containers will be obtainable as rewards for weekly missions and challenges, and as drops during battles. They will also be purchasable from the Shop, just like they are now.

To see the list of all possible rewards, check the «Containers» section in the HTML5 version of the game.”

 

This calls for a totally new project, to learn the new probabilities. This project is live and collecting new data, just post yours in a reply. Thank you.

Containers have recently been revamped. Players now get augments in Containers in addition to the reward items listed in Wiki. We know what sort of items are inside Containers but not the chances they appear. That is what this project attempts to learn.

 

 

If enough people post the results of the Containers they open we will eventually have a good estimate on these probabilities. This thread is a place to post the results of Container openings for data collection. Comments and questions should go in the pending discussion thread.

Results so far:

1 container opened at a time: 10 Days Premium, Fire immunity, 125 DA.

5 containers opened at a time: None reported

15 containers opened at a time: None reported

Unspecified amount at a time:

100,000 Crystals, Shaft - Violet effect, 25,000 Crystals, 50 batteries.

 

 If you want to help out, please post your container results, in full, as you gain and open them. I will post the results after we get enough entries, maybe every month.

 

 Please post the results like this

 

 Hull Augment Less Weight, 3.5k, 3 days PA

 

125 RK, 125 DD, Lead paint

 

5 GB, 5 GB, 10k crystals

Also, some players claim that if more containers are opened at once, the rewards will be higher. Please note how many you opened at once, although it in itself is its own topic.

Edited May 6, 2020 by ILiveOnTheChatBox123
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[KillerDiesel 188]

I'll open my first batch of the new containers on my EvilDemonicTroll account on Friday morning. Will post my results there.

[Dhikr 132]

1 Container- 10 Days Prem

Opened my first container on a recruit acc and got 10 days prem

Just luck tbh

Edited May 5, 2020 by Dhikr

[Okami 3,041]

Here are my 3 most recent Containers (the only ones I remember exactly)

Rare:
25,000 Crystals

Epic:
Shaft - Violet effect
100,000 Crystals

 

How I got 3 rare or epic containers and not a single augment is beyond me. I'm happy about that though.

Edited May 5, 2020 by GrayWolf8733

[Asvoria 37]

Opened container and got:

Fire immunity 

[mjmj5558 2,346]

50 betteries

[Turrets 6]

Since there will be a variety of entries in this topic, I'm creating a sub-section only for containers opened 1 at a time. For this purpose, I'm looking for volunteers. All you need to do for this is:

• Be active in the game. (At least post 1 entry in 2 months )
• Post each and every container opened since you offered to volunteer. (Not just the good ones)
• Open containers only 1 at a time; Open 5 and Open 15 are not allowed. (The purpose of this sub-section)
• Post at least 5 container rewards at a time, sorted according to rarity for convenience.
• Ping me for every post. I will 'like' it to mark as read.

The probabilities for each rarity, along with the data (number of common, uncommon, ... rewards as well as the number of paints, augments, ... in each rarity) will be updated, at least on a weekly basis, in the below post. Ping me if you're interested.

[Turrets 6]

Total number of Containers Opened: 33

 Common:  22   66.66%

• 3 500 crystals: 8
• 125 Double Armour: 6
• 125 Double Damage: 4
• 125 Speed Boost: 2
• 125 Mines: 2

 Uncommon:  4   12.12%

• 10 000 crystals: 1
• 125 Repair Kits: 1
• 50 Batteries:
• 100 of all Supplies:
• 3 days of Premium Account:
• 5 Gold Boxes: 2

 Rare:  6   18.18%

• 25 000 crystals: 1
• 150 Batteries:
• 250 of all Supplies:
• 10 days of Premium: 2
• 10 Gold Boxes:
• Rare paints: 1
• Hull Augments: 1
• Turret Augments: 1

 Epic:  1   3.03%

• 100 000 crystals
• Epic Paints:
• Shot Effects:
• Hull Augments:
• Turret Augments: 1

 Legendary: --   --%

• 300 000 crystals:
• Legendary paints:

 Exotic: --   --%

• 1 000 000 crystals:
• Skins:

Edited May 12, 2020 by Turrets

[HappyFace 63]

Why don't you send an email asking for their numbers? A lot of game developers will (and have) replied to such emails and publicized their probabilities.

[CaptainKiller 67]

My last five results from opening 1 container at a time: 10 days Premium, 125 mines, 125 double damage, 10k crystals and 25k crystals.....

 

Is that lucky?

 

 

[SporkZilla 1,775]

29 minutes ago, CaptainKiller said:

Is that lucky?

It is. Two rare containers from five containers is lucky, 13% of my containers have been rare ones

And less than 1% of my containers have had 10 days of Premium, you are more likely to get an Epic container than one of those

(the stuff about 1 v 5 v 15 containers openings is bollocks / confirmation bias and shouldn't be indulged)

[DaringDeer 656]

Someone should just create a Google form to collect the information in a standardized way.  

[DaringDeer 656]

I created a Google form to collect data and a Sheet that displays calculations.  I just want to move it off my personal Google account.  Will follow up with a link.

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

3 minutes ago, DaringDeer said:

I created a Google form to collect data and a Sheet that displays calculations.  I just want to move it off my personal Google account.  Will follow up with a link.

You want to allow every player to access the data, or only a topic leader to compile it to a document?

[DaringDeer 656]

It automatically calculates % of getting each type of item from a box.  It breaks it down results by overall, 1 container at a time, 5 at a time, and 15 at a time.

I'll make the results available as well of course but it will be read only.

[DaringDeer 656]

Form is here:  https://bit.ly/35Bp0oT

Results are here:  https://bit.ly/2W5XkVJ

Please test it out.  Entering containers should update the results immediately.  I just cleared all the results so there are some divide by zero errors but those will clear up once data is entered.

Once we are sure it is working I will create a new thread.

Edited May 5, 2020 by DaringDeer

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

5 minutes ago, DaringDeer said:

Form is here:  https://bit.ly/35Bp0oT

Results are here:  https://bit.ly/2W5XkVJ

Please test it out.  Entering containers should update the results immediately.  I just cleared all the results so there are some divide by zero errors but those will clear up once data is entered.

Once we are sure it is working I will create a new thread.

So you want nothing should be marked down in this topic, only the results? You have down a pack of mines, but none of the results reported to this topic.

[N3tralRE 73]

Opened 1 container.

Got 125 DA.  Can't wait to get more by this weekend!

[Nicola_M 173]

Opened 29 containers, filled out two separate entries with the 15 containers listing (only gives options to enter 1, 5 or 15).

No problem with the first submission, as there were 15 items.

However, the second page of submissions I only had 14 yet the form demanded something be input into the final box - wouldn't let me submit it empty.

So I filled in "1m crystals" which you'll need to disregard from your figures while you redo that form.

Edited May 6, 2020 by Nicola_M

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

7 minutes ago, Nicola_M said:

Opened 29 containers, but your list only gives options for 1, 5 or 15 containers.

So no point filling any of it in.

1, 5, or 15 simply means how many you opened with one button. If you used the 'open 15' button once, the 'open 5' button twice, and the 'open 1' button 4 times, you have plenty of data to enter in the respective categories.

[Nicola_M 173]

1 hour ago, ILiveOnTheChatBox123 said:

1, 5, or 15 simply means how many you opened with one button. If you used the 'open 15' button once, the 'open 5' button twice, and the 'open 1' button 4 times, you have plenty of data to enter in the respective categories.

So you expect me to fill in SEVEN forms?  pffffft.

Easier to get him to change the settings so the form can be sent without all the boxes needing to be filled in.

Edited May 6, 2020 by Nicola_M

[Nicola_M 173]

Also, the "results" page is only showing our own figures, that we posted.

What's the point of that?  I already know what my figures are.... I posted em.

[The-Kill-Switch 96]

because you arent the only person in the world wanting to know results. it helps people to make a purchase decision so they can get a better idea of what they are likely to get. 

[DaringDeer 656]

If people are interested in seeing if there are differences in results from opening 1, 5 or 15 at a time then it needs to be collected like that.  If that's not important, the data could be entered differently.

@Nicola_M there are only a couple entries currently.  Most of them are the ones you entered.  

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

2 hours ago, Nicola_M said:

So you expect me to fill in SEVEN forms?  pffffft.

Easier to get him to change the settings so the form can be sent without all the boxes needing to be filled in.

You can also still post your results here, as long as you explain how many you opened at once. Its that some players find it simpler using an automated system.

This system is not expected to get concrete results in a short amount of time, only with a large sample size you can assume that thy are close to the real probability.