Episode 252 of the V-LOG is live!

[wolverine848 13,097]

55 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

There are a few ways i can think of how someone can profit from pro-battles. for example imagine this-  A group of tanki friends start a pro battle. some of them join the opponent team. they help their friend in the enemy team to gain frags and assists. Sometimes they may act as mults and deliberately cause their team to lose. In pro- battles, the winning team gets a larger share of the battle fund. In MM battles this share is a bit less. So the few friends can become quite rich with crystals if they win the match every time. In pro battles, these guys have the option to design a battle best suited for their win.

They can disable micro-ups if they own a higher modification at their ranks than their peers. They can also control ranks allowed in the battle do that they do not fave to fight against an enemy with stronger modification. They will join the red team in Noise and equip magnum with mortar augment. They will also disable weapon change so that poor players in the blue team will not be able to change their equipment. They will win that battle and then leave without a rematch only to make a new battle where they are the red team again These are they ways some peeps may take advantage of you in pro-battles.

According to the v-log yes, people still do that. I have personally never bothered to check if this happens.

I've personally seen groups like this.  They have friends join your team, and basically do nothing. Often leave when their freinds are winning. Another schmuck joins your team as more cannon fodder to pad the scores.  They win 4 or 5 battles in a row like that until no one will join/continue.  Profits with little risk.

And as you point out the differences in battle fund.  It's not a little different.  It can be HUGE... top player winner getting 750cry - top player losing team ... 65cry

9 minutes ago, Thomas11239 said:

If that was really the way they were thinking when they removed augments from the garage in the beginning, I don't think these people will be the saviors of the game.

They don't have to save the game - they just need to fill slots in battles.  That's all MM is about - filling up teams.

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1 hour ago, At_Shin said:

 

According to the v-log yes, people still do that. I have personally never bothered to check if this happens. 

I know it used to happen 3-4 years back...but honestly I don't believe it happens now...maybe they just looking for excuses to push ppl to MM for obvious reasons

Edited May 8, 2020 by Uh-Oh

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If you want to disable funds for mult abuse thing, then also disable funds in other non-formatted pro battles (don't do that lol in real) , why only xp/bp players are suffering, and I never saw people power leveling with their mult accounts in xp/bp, and even if they ever did, how much crystals could they make? Making a 1v1 battle with your mult account, it will take ages to get the fund even to 1k lol. To be honest, power leveling exists more in non-formatted pro battles. Should I now call you devs donkeys? because the reason you are giving is indeed a fabricated and a weak one. Please come out with another excuse..

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2 hours ago, At_Shin said:

 

Not that I want to insult you but are you an *****!. what you just described is the functionality of private battles and it comes with the choice for player to select which battle they want to join. All the info about battle is public. and its not like a recruit can join a same battle as legend.

When many friends play with each other to give advantage to some of them (this is not even practical), losing players can also ask for such favor. it goes both ways.

You decide what you do in private battles. But in MM you can not even choose map. TO is pushing players out of private battles because players count is not large enough to fill all MM battles and private battles. They should have ended private battles when they started MM with the exception of clan's private battles.

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, Uh-Oh said:

I know it used to happen 3-4 years back...but honestly I don't believe it happens now...maybe they just looking for excuses to push ppl to MM for obvious reasons

It still happens now - plenty.  I see it often when I play pro-battles.  See my post above.

32 minutes ago, Mirza7 said:

When many friends play with each other to give advantage to some of them (this is not even practical), losing players can also ask for such favor. it goes both ways.

You decide what you do in private battles. But in MM you can not even choose map. TO is pushing players out of private battles because players count is not large enough to fill all MM battles and private battles. They should have ended private battles when they started MM with the exception of clan's private battles.

Well, isn't the last changes the start of this?   Still gives the choice to play xp/bp, but if you want crystals play MM.

And friends are not always filling all the slots in a battle.  Team of friends against team of (randoms + a mult or two)

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Tanki vlog has more Dislikes than likes, this is insane, xpbp players play 12 hours a day, u decide to take their source of crystals, how is that fair man?  

Making horrible updates which change the game.   Taking the fun away. 

Making it more p2w

Im tired of this garbage

I SPENT BLOODY 4 YEARS ON THIS CRAP, I SPENT EVERY SINGLE DAY ON THE GAME WOTHPUT EVEN DOING MY DAMN HOMEWORK

 

U Russian nooobs want money? That's all u greedy piece of garabage want from us, i'd rather donate to poor than you losers who got no life.

 

Here after im going to make videos talk trash about this game and their tactics to steal money from people

 

 

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7 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Well, isn't the last changes the start of this?   Still gives the choice to play xp/bp, but if you want crystals play MM.

Personally, I would rather not try to raise my rank if I can not get crystals to upgrade my equipment. 

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

9 minutes ago, Mirza7 said:

Personally, I would rather not try to raise my rank if I can not get crystals to upgrade my equipment. 

 

They should probably disable exp as well if not awarding crystals.

[Mirza7 235]

7 minutes ago, AymxnPrime said:

 

Don't put that much stress on your tiny brain and relax. There is no such thing as a free product.

[iWillHealYou 220]

56 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

They should probably disable exp as well if not awarding crystals.

The exp earning in xp/bp is also changed to what it's like in private battles (1exp for 1 kill instead of 10exp like it used to be)

[Bydo 20,119]

sorry

But I don't agree with you on any of these cash grab cut backs. see players who PAY real money for clan passes get no bonuses for there bucks now.. so why pay into the company for only playing probattles . which all you need now is to pay less for a pass then a clan pass to get the same return for our buck ..

time to rethink the future of this game ..

[Bydo 20,119]

6 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

what do you mean?

sir when playing clan battles if you watched the v-log . your no longer getting crystals in clan battles. also the leader has to buy a pass for the clan at 3000 tankions .

if you play XB/BP its also the same. no crystals in XP/BP battles..you only get crystals in regular pro battles / or missions .

v-log .. 1:15 timer where it starts ..

Edited May 9, 2020 by Bydo

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19 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Everyone can compete - I have never spent a penny on the game and I do ok.  Of course buyers do better overall - but if they didn't the game would not exist.

Missions ARE the main reason to play in MM.  You will get plenty of supplies by completing weekly missions.  Battle Funds are kind of a bonus.

I agree MM is not great - and many of the changes they have made are making it worse.

Yes, you can good battle fund and some supplies but what will you do with them, use those to play to complete more missions and it goes on an on? You know people play games for enjoyment but this is just a burden, isn't it?

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

50 minutes ago, iWillHealYou said:

Yes, you can good battle fund and some supplies but what will you do with them, use those to play to complete more missions and it goes on an on? You know people play games for enjoyment but this is just a burden, isn't it?

 

Which part is a burden?

Play MM to complete missions and get rewards. Some ppl actually enjoy the MM battles (not me).

When you are done your missions for the day/week play pro-battles for fun.  That's what I do.

It comes down to - you need to contribute in some way to play a F2P game.  If it's not buying with $, then it's participating in MM which generates most of TO $.

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They don't have to save the game - they just need to fill slots in battles.  That's all MM is about - filling up teams. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

42 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

i usually like playing in MM. I take out my guns and hulls to deal with different maps and game modes. I usually find it fun and challenging.  Although there are a lot of faults with MM, i still like it.  My account has become a lot stronger by playing in MM and winning containers. 2 years ago i could not have imagined that i would own an xt skin one day ( i used to think that it was a luxury only for foolhardy buyers.  But, MM made that possible for an f2p like me. I own so many augments thanks to rewards won in MM battles. 

Events such as wars ( one of my favorite tanki events) can only happen because of MM.  It is a system the game needs but it's players deserve a better version.  I hope the devs keep working on it.

My issues with MM (to state a few)...

- rank brackets are just too wide

- battles are too short. 7 minutes (in theory) is hardly any time - but we NEVER even get 7 min

- random maps don't suit equipment and going to garage in a 7min battle wastes valuable time

- many battles there are players that load much faster than the rest - they are capping flags before defenders are loaded

- a pre-battle lobby would solve the last two issues

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7 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

- many battles there are players that load much faster than the rest - they are capping flags before defenders are loaded

Yeah, what's up with this?

[wolverine848 13,097]

8 minutes ago, Benefactor said:

Yeah, what's up with this?

It's terrible.

There there's the opposite of the super-high GS score.

My General account was in a battle with ranks up to Commander.  A Field Marshal on my team had a GS of 3150 when average GS in battle was ~ 8000.  MULT.

[Joeguy 941]

On 5/8/2020 at 8:31 PM, Virtue said:

Probably less than 1% of players play against alt accounts in XP/BP... You could do the same thing in non-format pro battles, so why pick on xpbp? It's the mod's job to find and ban power levelers. You shouldn't come up with a solution that hurts us as well as cheaters...

BP/XP is the only thing that is really working in Pro-Battles.  BP/XP players can generate enough income to keep their tanks competitive with just BP/XP.  Tanki sees that many players are happy playing 95% BP/XP battles only.  That means they are not playing enough MM battles.  Power leveling is just an excuse for Tanki to pursue its agenda. 

Tanki needs to fill MM, especially with their dwindling player base.  It is getting harder and harder to even get into a battle around restart time and I've been put in battles with players 12 ranks higher than me just because there are not enough players any more for those four or five hours around restart.

Tanki's ***** band-aid solution is to drive BP/XP into playing MM.  Players need to keep generating income so they can keep upgrading.  Tanki views the BP/XP crowd as not contributing to MM or Tanki's bottom line as buyers because most can stay independent of MM by playing mostly BP/XP.  Tanki pretty effectively guts BP/XP in one update.  I think they will drive away more BP/XP players than they will make up for in increased MM player base.

 

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*****   That is not even close to a vulgar word.  A hundred years ago it was a technological term and now it is in common usage...it's not even slang!  Will you start censoring words like silly, dolt, foolish, cretin, dumb, dense, Bozo, fool, buffoon, dimwit, ignorant...what about illiterate? 

Readers, I've used a word that chafes at Tanki's chaps so please substitute one of the words above if they don't censor them...buffoonish is probably a better word anyway and closer to Tanki's actions in the BP/XP matter.

 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Joeguy

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1 hour ago, TSY_the_crazy said:

It does tell you something when you have twice as many dislikes than likes on your video

like or dislike doesn't matter...it still promotes the vid~ TO 

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1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

It's terrible.

There there's the opposite of the super-high GS score.

My General account was in a battle with ranks up to Commander.  A Field Marshal on my team had a GS of 3150 when average GS in battle was ~ 8000.  MULT.

Fact

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, Joeguy said:

anki's ***** band-aid solution is to drive BP/XP into playing MM.  Players need to keep generating income so they can keep upgrading.  Tanki views the BP/XP crowd as not contributing to MM or Tanki's bottom line as buyers because most can stay independent of MM by playing mostly BP/XP.  Tanki pretty effectively guts BP/XP in one update.  I think they will drive away more BP/XP players than they will make up for in increased MM player base.

But is this really a net loss for TO?

Those xp/bp players spending 95% of their time in format battles - how do they help the game overall?

Even if only 35% of those players spend more time in MM, that's a 35% gain for MM.  And we all know MM needs the players.

 

Now the biggest downside to this has not even been mentioned.  There might be even more hornets running around in MM.  At least those being "forced" into MM are entering that mode equipped with the most OP OverDrive...

Reminds me of the nickname given the asian hornets that are now found on west coast of NA - murder hornets.

[Bydo 20,119]

18 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

But is this really a net loss for TO?

Those xp/bp players spending 95% of their time in format battles - how do they help the game overall?

Even if only 35% of those players spend more time in MM, that's a 35% gain for MM.  And we all know MM needs the players.

 

Now the biggest downside to this has not even been mentioned.  There might be even more hornets running around in MM.  At least those being "forced" into MM are entering that mode equipped with the most OP OverDrive...

Reminds me of the nickname given the asian hornets that are now found on west coast of NA - murder hornets.

see I don't think there seeing it this way. when players stop paying into a game it ends up the staff end up loosing jobs. sure there making a new game but in the end that also suffers as well. less money going in less to work with in there departments . the more we spend the more they have to use.

what I don't get is that the crystals are not real money , there computer generated in game currency . which have no value in the end . and why would you not want players to get crystals to buy items. sometimes we end up having to buy crystals to purchase things . due to the fact your short on them.. in the end the more we enjoy the game the more we bring in other friends to play ..

new comments...

please do not do the prebattle lobby .. we had this in tanki x and it was more of a pain then anything. you ended up sitting in the lobby waiting for a good minute or two before game started.. this wont work for those who are using cell phones.

the game changed on timer due to players wanting to use cell phones . if we did not have them then more then likely we would have the time around 10 minutes or more.

also Hazel claimed players where cheating the system and using there second accounts, how can this be .. the system was updated in the past not to allow players to have more then one account open at a time.. so I wonder how there doing this?

Edited May 10, 2020 by Bydo

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4 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

My issues with MM (to state a few)...

- rank brackets are just too wide

- battles are too short. 7 minutes (in theory) is hardly any time - but we NEVER even get 7 min

- random maps don't suit equipment and going to garage in a 7min battle wastes valuable time

- many battles there are players that load much faster than the rest - they are capping flags before defenders are loaded

- a pre-battle lobby would solve the last two issues

7 minutes is just enough man wys 

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 minutes ago, distroeryXXX said:

7 minutes is just enough man wys 

Except we don't even get the 7 minutes do we?  When is the last time you were loaded into a game with at least 6:59 left on the clock?