Tankoin Online

[Crip 4,735]

When these "tankoins" were introduced, apparently in the aid of the free-to-play players who wanted to be able to acquire special "Shop" items, it appears Tanki went through a pretty scammy change with regards to their e-currency, and the value of it.

I mean, take this "1500 supplies" special bundle for example, which I have just noticed in the shop today.

 

Now this is valued at approximately 32.99 euros (the 4300 tankoin bundle is this price). Remember when you used to be able to buy this exact bundle in the shop for 12.99 euros? So the price has nearly tripled? On what basis? Players consume far more supplies than ever before (especially with drones now), so it's not like the usage has dropped.

And which free-to-play player is going to be able to afford this, like ever? You get 100 (100!!!) tankoins for completing these challenges they're offering us, and barely any for completing the weekly missions for containers.

The same has happened with crystals - the price in euros/tankoins has stayed the same, but now DCC (Double crystal cards) are no longer around, and you no longer get the bonus Premium.

I think it's a pretty low move to revalue everything so that it's more expensive, disguised with the pretence of trying to make the game more accessible to free players.

[wolverine848 13,097]

17 minutes ago, Savage said:

When these "tankoins" were introduced, apparently in the aid of the free-to-play players who wanted to be able to acquire special "Shop" items,

[Maf 32,306]

1 hour ago, Savage said:

And which free-to-play player is going to be able to afford this, like ever?

This pack is not aimed at free players. And you conveniently ignored the fairly common crystal equipment kits and crystal supply kits, which appear in the Shop regularly.

Tanki has a lot of P2W elements and features that make life harder for free players, but you probably picked the least relevant one to demonstrate your point.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Can we change the name of the game to this? Cuz this is seriously how the game is looking like. I like it when @Opex-Rah says prices so casually like, "With these new changes, we will currently sell this x (item) in the Shop for a fair price of 4000 Tankoins. 4000 tankoins? Okay, that's only approximately 2 years to earn. THANKS

[wolverine848 13,097]

3 hours ago, Maf said:

And you conveniently ignored the fairly common crystal equipment kits and crystal supply kits, which appear in the Shop regularly.

Which Kit do you see available for crystals right now?

[coconuttree 519]

Out of my 11 accounts, (and 66 available slots for product kits) I got 4 crystal kits in my shop today.

[Viking4s 10,791]

If supplies are expensive  when bought with Tankoin then less buyer can buy them, and they can buy less of them. Consequently less drugs from the shop in the game. This should beneficiate free players.

Tankoins open the shop for the F2P, but in fact the choice is very limited. With the new challenges (2 per months) F2P could earn 3336Tk a year (completing all the daily, weekly and monthly challenges) - the cheapest product kit that one could afford with it is all the one under mk6. All the other item are better to be earn playing the game normally (containers, gold box,...). The only interesting item is the battle pass, but without the premium it is time challenging.

So in reality tankoins only give a very limited access to F2P.

Tankoins are more to help Mobile players and Tanki when tankoins shop discount are on. And also increase all the shop item in one go.

[Maf 32,306]

6 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Which Kit do you see available for crystals right now?

I don't have any kits available because I already have all the equipment, but I assumed there's at least one crystal equipment kit available per day? Or is it more rare?

[Viking4s 10,791]

3 hours ago, Maf said:

I don't have any kits available because I already have all the equipment, but I assumed there's at least one crystal equipment kit available per day? Or is it more rare?

There is certain ranks where there is very few PK with crystals kit available, therefore there is more than usual PK with Tankoins displayed.

For me at Major rank this is exactly what is happening, several days per week with only PK with Tk. Today 5 MK6 with Tk, zero with crystals, and when they are available there are mostly Mk5. It also display PK with Crystals with MK6 equipment I already have at that level.

What we are missing is a visibility, before we could better plan which product kit to buy.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Viking4s

[mjmj5558 2,346]

39 minutes ago, Maf said:

I don't have any kits available because I already have all the equipment, but I assumed there's at least one crystal equipment kit available per day? Or is it more rare?

It's more rare. I'm waiting for a shaft kit ( not a specific kit, just a shaft kit) for 6 months. I havn't seen one. Sometimes, i don't even see a single crystal kit for a week.

Edited May 27, 2020 by mjmj5558

[Maf 32,306]

Just now, At_Shin said:

It is extremely rare for a product kit of one's choice to become available for purchase with crystals

This is no surprise. There's a product kit for every single combination of turret+hull, which is almost a hundred different kits. If you want to buy one exact set of equipment, you should wait for garage sales and buy the items separately. But if you're just looking to expand your garage and see an interesting kit on offer for crystals - you can use the opportunity to buy it.

15 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

For me at Major rank this is exactly what is happening, several days per week with only PK with Tk. Today 5 MK6 with Tk, zero with crystals, and when available there are Mk5.

I see. Yeah, that doesn't seem very convenient. Does the game offer you supply packs for crystals during those days instead though?

As for Mk5 vs Mk6, pretty sure that's just the P2W nature of kits - only TK kits are available earlier than crystal ones, the way it has been even before kits got moved to the shop.

[mjmj5558 2,346]

2 minutes ago, Maf said:

see. Yeah, that doesn't seem very convenient. Does the game offer you supply packs for crystals during those days instead though?

Well, 100 crystals are super common, and it's nothing in higher ranks.

Edited May 27, 2020 by mjmj5558

[mjmj5558 2,346]

There are a lot of ideas about the number of the crystal kits, here's my idea :

 

 

[Viking4s 10,791]

13 minutes ago, Maf said:

I see. Yeah, that doesn't seem very convenient. Does the game offer you supply packs for crystals during those days instead though?

As for Mk5 vs Mk6, pretty sure that's just the P2W nature of kits - only TK kits are available earlier than crystal ones, the way it has been even before kits got moved to the shop.

I made a policy to never buy supplies, plus there is always the special recurring event weekends that offer the equivalent deals with more flexibilities about quantities and choices of supplies. We know when the event are coming while the shop offer are random in quantities and type of supplies offered, plus availability is 12 hours only and any day of the week = a real pain.

The current shop display of PK, make it looks like very bad for PK with crystals, overall it might be the same as before but we don't know due to the lack of visibility regarding kit availability. Overall it gives a negative image and fuels player disappointment (reality seems lower than expectation).

Before, in the garage we could tell which rank and which kit would be available and player would plan in advance. Now you have to jungle between the wiki and the shop (twice a day). If the wiki was sorting the kit per rank that would help a lot.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Viking4s

[rus0806 265]

It's inevitable, because this always happens. If tankoins are too easy to earn, buyers will earn them even faster, giving no benefit to non-buyers. Just think of it like age. Say a buyer is 10 years older than you. No matter how old you are, they will still be 10 years older than you, 10 years more advanced than you. Therefore there is no point trying to become equals with them, because you can never achieve it.

[Maf 32,306]

21 minutes ago, mjmj5558 said:

Well, 100 crystals are super common, and it's nothing in higher ranks.

Oh, that's disappointing. I mean, those 100 crystal free kits are obviously just a tool to get you to look at the shop more often in order to tempt you into buying items with money, so their benefit for free players is really negligible.

15 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

I made a policy to never buy supplies, plus there is always the special recurring event weekends that offer the equivalent deals with more flexibilities about quantities and choices of supplies.

I don't know, I find the 50% packs of 100 batteries to be quite useful and I often buy them. 30% packs of 100 other supplies also help, though I usually try to bulk-buy enough supplies during the 50% garage sales. Though it's hard to judge how much you need these days. I mean, I had 12k DDs around christmas sales and I didn't think I'd ever need more of those, but the damn Booster drone made me go through the whole 12k stash in just a few months

[fire199 267]

11 minutes ago, Maf said:

Oh, that's disappointing. I mean, those 100 crystal free kits are obviously just a tool to get you to look at the shop more often in order to tempt you into buying items with money, so their benefit for free players is really negligible.

I don't know, I find the 50% packs of 100 batteries to be quite useful and I often buy them. 30% packs of 100 other supplies also help, though I usually try to bulk-buy enough supplies during the 50% garage sales. Though it's hard to judge how much you need these days. I mean, I had 12k DDs around christmas sales and I didn't think I'd ever need more of those, but the damn Booster drone made me go through the whole 12k stash in just a few months

please dont zip close your mouth 

[Viking4s 10,791]

45 minutes ago, Maf said:

I don't know, I find the 50% packs of 100 batteries to be quite useful and I often buy them. 30% packs of 100 other supplies also help, though I usually try to bulk-buy enough supplies during the 50% garage sales. Though it's hard to judge how much you need these days. I mean, I had 12k DDs around christmas sales and I didn't think I'd ever need more of those, but the damn Booster drone made me go through the whole 12k stash in just a few months

You do play a lot, so your supplies consumption will be higher than the free supplies given, especially if you use drones.

I play regularly, enough to get to tiers 20 for each challenges and survive with existing free supplies. I am not using my drones (I have 1k batteries stock) can't be bothered buying drones that consume even more supplies. Even if i buy one that do not use extra supplies it might happen in the future with a new rebalancing update. No gonna waste crystals on uncertainty.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Viking4s

[rus0806 265]

56 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

I am not using my drones (I have 1k batteries stock) can't be bothered buying drones that consume even more supplies. Even if i buy one that do not use extra supplies it might happen in the future with a new rebalancing update. No gonna waste crystals on uncertainty.

Suprisingly I don't find myself using drones at all nowadays. Maybe it's because I don't play as often as I used to, but I think it's mainly due to the fact that I haven't got too many crystals to spare on batteries especially when they are used up so fast.

Afterall I did consume around 16k repair kits in the period of a month last year, so now I am much more sparing on using supplies when I play.

Edited May 27, 2020 by rus0806

[Viking4s 10,791]

38 minutes ago, rus0806 said:

Suprisingly I don't find myself using drones at all nowadays. Maybe it's because I don't play as often as I used to, but I think it's mainly due to the fact that I haven't got too many crystals to spare on batteries especially when they are used up so fast.

Afterall I did consume around 16k repair kits in the period of a month last year, so now I am much more sparing on using supplies when I play.

Many drones effects are negated by OD, so in reality you end up by wasting many supplies and batteries when using drones. 

Edited May 27, 2020 by Viking4s

[LONDON.ENGLAND 302]

Instead of buying crystals I find it better to just get containers. Yes you might get unlucky and only get supplies but I find I’m normally get 300k+ crystals from 50 containers 

[Thomas11239 366]

Wait, why is this bad for the game? I think it's great when prices in the shop increase. This will result in less demand, so less buyers.

[rus0806 265]

3 hours ago, Thomas11239 said:

Wait, why is this bad for the game? I think it's great when prices in the shop increase. This will result in less demand, so less buyers.

From a player's point of view this might be great, but from a developer's point of view it's a complete nightmare.

[yasgfgfffgf 282]

23 hours ago, Ap3xA1pha said:

They're greedy, no doubt about that.

The game IS going downhill, it's indisputable. And I love how some people (not gonna name names) call me a "conspiracy theorist" for claiming the game is dying.

well we all know that there are less players around( less players means less mony so up go the prices) and that may not be abnormal for a game so old, but the biggest problem is i think pay to win, i mean when i started playing 9 years ago you could only buy crystals who were rarely in discount but now you can buy anything to benfit you every week in discount with just one click, and  what is the value of a gold box now compared 3-4 years ago?, its stil 1000 crystals but now its almost normal to see one every 30  min , if there isnt a 20X gold rate on BD of TO it would be strange, but in the mean time evrything of turrets gets more expensive so were even here but the difference is with speed up now, TO is also trying to hide how many players are stil playing the game, they are also doing the opposite of what they want, dividing tanki in smaller groups with groups being able to do this and this not

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

On 5/26/2020 at 7:48 PM, yellowghetto said:

Can we change the name of the game to this? Cuz this is seriously how the game is looking like.

At the rate that things are going now, I am sure that for enough cash from buyers they would be willing to change the name.

Spoiler

Maybe for legal reasons it would be harder to change the name.