when you Thunders will rotate it!

[alkyng 3,080]

In my time in tanki, I don't know why the very most thunder-viking users didn't turn their turret, rarely to see someone use this equipment and play professionally

maybe the most thunder players I see didn't turn their turret, especially when it comes with Viking

Thunders why you do that! 

I hope you Thunders didn't get upset from my topic, this topic only for discussing

a lot players didn't turn their turrets, but in thunder it's incredible

Edited November 1, 2020 by asem.harbi
too late, but really really this is important edit

[Viking4s 10,791]

Many players do not turn their turrets, whichever turret and tanks they use, it will not turn. The worse ones are magnum users of course.
The 2 only combos with the highest number of player turning their turret are XB/BP.

Edited June 1, 2020 by Viking4s

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

I think mobile plays a big part in this.

[alkyng 3,080]

I'm pretty sure the most weapon you impossible to find someone use it without turning is Shaft how someone use shaft without turning it, I think I have see only one player who do that and maybe he were drinking tea or something hindered his second hand

[alkyng 3,080]

3 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

I think mobile plays a big part in this.

 

maybe,

but we see a lot of them even before mobile version

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

1 minute ago, asem.harbi said:

 

maybe,

but we see a lot of them even before mobile version

I guess there were different reasons for it.

[alkyng 3,080]

6 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

I guess there were different reasons for it.

yes there are a lot of different reasons but that doesn't eliminate the idea that a lot of they are noobs

[alkyng 3,080]

I talk with a lot of them every time I see and the most of them don't response to me maybe they are noobs and doesn't notice the chat because his mind confused with hard gameplay and can't notice anything else or maybe as dieselplatinum say they are play on mobile phones

and one of them only answers me and he say because he didn't want to turn it

anyway I'm very happy because he answers me and didn't get bother me with his answer 

Edited June 1, 2020 by asem.harbi

[alkyng 3,080]

sometimes when I play with railgun surely the most annoying thing when you prepare to shot and someone noob of your team push you and ruin your shot

and I didn't ignore that no I immediately treatment with those as I can if I can flip him I will do or I can hindered him from walking I will do like last time someone with viking have ruined my shot and I'm with wasp, I chase them till we reach in a place then I push him and prevent him from playing maybe 1 minute then I left it, sometimes I wait these players to talk with me in chat and discus about it

and in this situation railgun doesn't ever worse than shaaaaft

Edited June 1, 2020 by asem.harbi

[Maf 32,300]

45 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

I think mobile plays a big part in this.

You know, I agree with TS and this has been a thing long before Mobile version. Maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part, but it just seems to be more common in general for Viking players to be less prone to not turning their turret.

[alkyng 3,080]

50 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

I'm pretty sure the most weapon you impossible to find someone use it without turning is Shaft how someone use shaft without turning it, I think I have see only one player who do that and maybe he were drinking tea or something hindered his second hand

thank you FrozenRailgun for like

I know why you do that

https://prnt.sc/sruhje 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

You know, I agree with TS and this has been a thing long before Mobile version. Maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part, but it just seems to be more common in general for Viking players to be less prone to not turning their turret.

Probably due to Vikings lack of stability.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

5 hours ago, asem.harbi said:

in my career in tanki I don't know why the very most players I see who use thunder-viking kit doesn't turn his turret rarely to see someone use this kit and play professionally

and maybe the most player I see use thunder don't turn it, especially with viking

Thunder users why you do that 

I hope you Thunders don't get upset from this topic only for discussing

a lot players doesn't turn their turret but in thunder it's incredible

i don't understand this topic. Not everyone knows how to turn their turrets, and that's about it.

[JohnMatrix 18]

On 6/1/2020 at 12:17 PM, asem.harbi said:

a lot players doesn't turn their turret but in thunder it's incredible

Most wouldn't agree but if you ask me, it's a viable method to playing certain turrets. Why? There may be multiple lines of reasoning -

1. Some turrets like railgun/thunder at lower modifications have slower turning speeds than some hulls like wasp/hornet. So it's actually quicker to make kills left/right when you turn the hull alone.

2. With high impact turrets like hammer/thunder you are less likely to topple sideways due to knockback from your own shots (& inflict self-damage trying to right yourself)

3. Also with knockback turrets especially ricochet, simply shooting straight pushes your hull backwards & can put more distance between you & the enemy. Helpful when there are a lot of firebirds/freezes/isidas around.

 

It's easy to assume ALL such players are either lazy or just total noobs.

[wolverine848 13,097]

18 minutes ago, JohnMatrix said:

Most wouldn't agree but if you ask me, it's a viable method to playing certain turrets. Why? There may be multiple lines of reasoning -

1. Some turrets like railgun/thunder at lower modifications have slower turning speeds than some hulls like wasp/hornet. So it's actually quicker to make kills left/right when you turn the hull alone.

2. With high impact turrets like hammer/thunder you are less likely to topple sideways due to knockback from your own shots (& inflict self-damage trying to right yourself)

3. Also with knockback turrets especially ricochet, simply shooting straight pushes your hull backwards & can put more distance between you & the enemy. Helpful when there are a lot of firebirds/freezes/isidas around.

 

It's easy to assume ALL such players are either lazy or just total noobs.

1) Turn the hull AND turret and it's even quicker - no?

2) Possible but unlikley.  Duplet with 2 quick shots in succession would be prime candidate.  Even then...

3) The "backward" movement on a hornet when firing ricco is so slight as to be negligible for combat purposes.  If that worried about being too close just reverse = a lot more efficient.

There really is not much of a strategic advantage to not turning your turret.  In certain circumstances - maybe. But for specific turrets?  The only excuse here is stock magnum.

[NooNooHead 121]

On 6/1/2020 at 12:17 PM, asem.harbi said:

in my career in tanki I don't know why the very most players I see who use thunder-viking kit doesn't turn his turret rarely to see someone use this kit and play professionally

and maybe the most player I see use thunder don't turn it, especially with viking

Thunder users why you do that 

I hope you Thunders don't get upset from this topic only for discussing

a lot players doesn't turn their turret but in thunder it's incredible

At your rank, thunder players can still succeed without turning the turret provided they have equipment and supply advantage. I only know of one thunder player at the legend level who does not turn turret. I asked him why and he said he is more effective that way. He does drive well and uses a lighter hull relying heavily on health packs. For me, a more ridiculous sight is a rail player who does not turn turret and I have seen those out there.

[alkyng 3,080]

25 minutes ago, NooNooHead said:

At your rank, thunder players can still succeed without turning the turret provided they have equipment and supply advantage. I only know of one thunder player at the legend level who does not turn turret. I asked him why and he said he is more effective that way. He does drive well and uses a lighter hull relying heavily on health packs. For me, a more ridiculous sight is a rail player who does not turn turret and I have seen I hthose out there.

 

I'm in colonel rank and it's not low rank  it's high and most players who reach this rank have 300+ hours playing and that's too enough to control perfectly the turret and change the camer view with Q and E maybe when I'm in very low ranks I mastered it, this talk in 2012 days, and players in that time have more skills than now and the number of who didn't turn their turret less than now  

but some times I play with high ranks more even after Marshals and I usually talk with them in chat but rarely to get answer, maybe sometimes when I talk with someone who is in higher rank than me he annoyed why I talk him like this when I'm in lower rank and he didn't know in real I supposed to be higher than his rank multiple times, and his skills we can compare it when I'm in ranks less than Warrant Officer

btw I have ex-account in Field-Marshal rank didn't think me don't know how players in high ranks

38 minutes ago, NooNooHead said:

I only know of one thunder player at the legend level who does not turn turret. I asked him why and he said he is more effective that way.

all time you have to turn your turret there is no situation you shouldn't turn your turret in, Except only if you drink a tea or your other hand busy with something

[alkyng 3,080]

you might think me angry or something no I'm only share my opinions and my experince thank you for your time to read

[cosmic666 1,055]

I have noob account (general) i can turn my turret just fine and i nearly always drive in reverse while firing if i manage to get flag. BUT i find that turning my hull is more effective and faster  in some situations hence i dont turn my turret,mabey these players find that the best way for the way the want to play. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

2 hours ago, cosmic666 said:

I have noob account (general) i can turn my turret just fine and i nearly always drive in reverse while firing if i manage to get flag. BUT i find that turning my hull is more effective and faster  in some situations hence i dont turn my turret,mabey these players find that the best way for the way the want to play. 

You do know that turning both your hull and turret in the same direction is faster than just turning your hull or turret alone, right?

[cosmic666 1,055]

4 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

You do know that turning both your hull and turret in the same direction is faster than just turning your hull or turret alone, right?

Yip

[JohnMatrix 18]

6 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

1) Turn the hull AND turret and it's even quicker - no?

2) Possible but unlikley.  Duplet with 2 quick shots in succession would be prime candidate.  Even then...

3) The "backward" movement on a hornet when firing ricco is so slight as to be negligible for combat purposes.  If that worried about being too close just reverse = a lot more efficient.

There really is not much of a strategic advantage to not turning your turret.  In certain circumstances - maybe. But for specific turrets?  The only excuse here is stock magnum.

magnum.

1) Ofcourse it is! Turning railgun m0 is slow. Turning hornet m0 is fast. Turning railgun m0 with hornet m0 is the fastest. You are absolutely right. Now try convincing people who are comfortable playing their way. Who knows, maybe they're happy because the turning speed is less & prefers their game visuals don't spin THAT much?

2) Try playing wasp/thunder on an uneven map. I don't know about your theories brother... but this is a extremely common.

3) Ricochet slows enemy light hulls moving into it's line of fire. The point being you don't have to reverse much which is a good thing when you are restricted in space. It also helps you propel faster in reverse gear. Even when camped, you can prevent tilting or slipping using this method & get a better angle from ledges & bridges. It's a good parkour weapon because the impact builds up with each consecutive shot & this reflects on the momentum the hull gains.

There definitely is strategic advantage to not turning your turret sometimes with some turret-hull combinations. It's easier to keep a small profile & increase your chance of avoiding shots by not skewing your outline. Being caught in a shot with a skewed turret makes the tank easier to flip. I've played thunder viking. You should know it's a real pain when viking spins like a top every time a rail shot whizzes by. Double whammy if using the overdrive.

Yes, it's annoying when players who don't turn their turrets all the time aren't "playing to their potential" or not doing well. But if it's working for them, I'll be happy to let them be. I have seen this mostly with ricochet players.

[StopChasingMe 50]

I sometimes don't turn my turret because I want to give my opponents somewhat of a chance 

[alkyng 3,080]

2 hours ago, DieselPlatinum said:

You do know that turning both your hull and turret in the same direction is faster than just turning your hull or turret alone, right?

Basic rule

 

2 hours ago, JohnMatrix said:

Ofcourse it is! Turning railgun m0 is slow. Turning hornet m0 is fast. Turning railgun m0 with hornet m0 is the fastest

yes, but this for a little time in very low ranks, and the topic talk mainly about thunder users in high ranks Regardless that I see in every turret you use and hull and in every upgrade level and in any situation you should turn your turret no excuse about it

 

2 hours ago, JohnMatrix said:

You are absolutely right. Now try convincing people who are comfortable playing their way.

yes I agree with you it's easy and maybe they find their self comfortable with this playing way because it's require less skills, so why I create this topic because in high rank you shouldn't continue playing with this way

 

1 hour ago, StopChasingMe said:

I sometimes don't turn my turret because I want to give my opponents somewhat of a chance 

Edited June 5, 2020 by asem.harbi

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

2 hours ago, StopChasingMe said:

I sometimes don't turn my turret because I want to give my opponents somewhat of a chance 

Well in that case, I never turn my turret and I never will because I'm a rebel.