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25 minutes ago, oroget said:

Why making drop zones for it?

If you really want players to do not wait until they fall from the sky, you should make random drop places. Now it's clear where the boxes will drop so every cry hunter (there are not much but ok) will camp there.

 

Same goes with gold boxes. If you drop one, everyone knows where it will land, everyone goes to that place and the whole battle is unbalanced. If you just make it random no one knows where it will drop and the tankers will stay more or less divided over the battle ground. Now it's almost a guaranty capture of flag if you drop a gold......

The 10 crystal boxes do not fall, they appears directly above the delimited zone. TO just smartly replaced existing supplies drop zone it is faster and easier to code for the 35 maps (and 15 or so winter themed). Plus it is classical conditional method to train new players to go and look for supplies.

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Crystal boxes...what an absolutely pointless update.  And if you believe Tanki's ridiculous spin about helping the new players learn to use their equipment, I have a very nice bridge I'd like to sell you with a lovely view of San Fransisco Bay.

 

 

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The lower rank battles are a shambles.  Trash battles almost all the time now.   Hopefully, battles will get a little closer to normal when players get bored with the crystal boxes in a few days.  What a dramatic change for no ones gain...I can't even figure out how Tanki is gaining by this foolish disruptive update.  It's just more change for change sake.

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2 hours ago, Joeguy said:

Crystal boxes...what an absolutely pointless update.  And if you believe Tanki's ridiculous spin about helping the new players learn to use their equipment, I have a very nice bridge I'd like to sell you with a lovely view of San Fransisco Bay.

haha, you always go the extra mile. What is the problem exactly? You do not like Crystals boxes? 

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2 hours ago, Joeguy said:

The lower rank battles are a shambles.  Trash battles almost all the time now.   Hopefully, battles will get a little closer to normal when players get bored with the crystal boxes in a few days.  What a dramatic change for no ones gain...I can't even figure out how Tanki is gaining by this foolish disruptive update.  It's just more change for change sake.

Do you really "think" that player who spent 20 minutes in the game (because that the rank level you reach by playing that much) will already master the tank movements? Do you now? Do you remember how long it took you to master it?

Instead of constantly whining about everything and using weird proofs to allow yourself the right to badmouthing, could you just go for a run and spend all this negativity in useful body exercise for your body. If you wonder why that you "can't even figure out" thing is because you do not look at it with partiality. Low ranks battles have always been a shamble and will remains.

Did you cry with tears of joy when you took your first crystals box after so many years of starvation?

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3 hours ago, Viking4s said:

The 10 crystal boxes do not fall, they appears directly above the delimited zone. TO just smartly replaced existing supplies drop zone it is faster and easier to code for the 35 maps (and 15 or so winter themed). Plus it is classical conditional method to train new players to go and look for supplies.

Very well explained 

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I would love to see crystal drops again but with a much higher reward,say between 100 and 500 cry but only for warrant1and above and for ranks below that starting from recruit between 50 and 75. Now that would bring a lot of fun back to the game,along with the gold box where the meteor blows you into so much scrap metal if you get to near to the drop zone when it hits. These are all fun factors that have been missing for quite awhile and i think it would reignite the interest of many players who have lost the capacity to actually ENJOY THE GAME especially at the higher ranks where if you are a non buyer coming up against all these alts drones etc it can seem at times impossible to achieve anything in battle because you are getting totally dominated by the players who are fortunate enough to acquire maxed out combos with all the added extras you can buy. Lets put the fun back into TANKI and leave the serious side of the game to the esports guys.  

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2 minutes ago, cosmic666 said:

I would love to see crystal drops again but with a much higher reward,say between 100 and 500 cry but only for warrant1and above

Gold drops are already enough distraction - this suggestion would completely ruin battles.

Why spend supplies trying to accomplish the battle-mode objective when you can just mult for crystals?  And that's what will happen with many players.

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10 minutes ago, cosmic666 said:

I would love to see crystal drops again but with a much higher reward,say between 100 and 500 cry but only for warrant1and above and for ranks below that starting from recruit between 50 and 75. Now that would bring a lot of fun back to the game,along with the gold box where the meteor blows you into so much scrap metal if you get to near to the drop zone when it hits. These are all fun factors that have been missing for quite awhile and i think it would reignite the interest of many players who have lost the capacity to actually ENJOY THE GAME especially at the higher ranks where if you are a non buyer coming up against all these alts drones etc it can seem at times impossible to achieve anything in battle because you are getting totally dominated by the players who are fortunate enough to acquire maxed out combos with all the added extras you can buy. Lets put the fun back into TANKI and leave the serious side of the game to the esports guys.  

Way too much simple fun! What about the battle mode objectives? Like capping and scoring?  
If your account is not strong enough... wait your k/d is 2.88 ... and you are a Legend rank,...  the game is finished at Legend start over again.  

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41 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

Way too much simple fun! What about the battle mode objectives? Like capping and scoring?  
If your account is not strong enough... wait your k/d is 2.88 ... and you are a Legend rank,...  the game is finished at Legend start over again.  

i did start new account a few months ago its general rank .

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51 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Gold drops are already enough distraction - this suggestion would completely ruin battles.

Why spend supplies trying to accomplish the battle-mode objective when you can just mult for crystals?  And that's what will happen with many players.

nah they would be great fun .

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1 hour ago, Viking4s said:

Do you really "think" that player who spent 20 minutes in the game (because that the rank level you reach by playing that much) will already master the tank movements? Do you now? Do you remember how long it took you to master it?

Instead of constantly whining about everything and using weird proofs to allow yourself the right to badmouthing, could you just go for a run and spend all this negativity in useful body exercise for your body. If you wonder why that you "can't even figure out" thing is because you do not look at it with partiality. Low ranks battles have always been a shamble and will remains.

Did you cry with tears of joy when you took your first crystals box after so many years of starvation?

 

Again with the personal insults and snide remarks.  You just can't seem to help attacking people and trying to make them feel bad...I guess that is how you feel better about yourself.   Kinda sad.

 

If you'll notice, the lower ranks extend at least to Rank11 or WO1.  I recently did a "Road to WO1" and it took me about ten days of hard playing, sometimes a couple of hours a day to reach WO1 even with my Newbie 1.5X XP bonus on top of the Lockdown 3.0  1.75X XP ...so even with super fast ranking, it still took 12.4 hours of play...not 20 minutes...to go through the low ranks. 

You seem to have an opinion about the crystal boxes...why don't you enlighten us on how crystal boxes instead of supplies are going to help anyone learn to use their turret better.  Or is it that anything Tanki says must be true and good.  Or is it just personal, and the things I say calling bullpucky on Tanki must be wrong and injurious to Tanki?

My biggest problem with Tanki is that they just can't leave anything alone....they have to keep fiddling and changing all the time...and almost always for the worse.   The crystal box change is a pointless and silly update.  It's change for change sake, but it still impacts the game.  Every aspect of the game keeps getting degraded more and more.  The lower ranks were one of the only fun places left to play and now Tanki is coming after them too with their toxic updates.  It's these toxic updates that have purged hundreds of thousands of players from the game.   The poorly conceived updates and naked greed of Tanki is what knocked the player base from 130,000 at peak times to what it is now...well below 20,000 at peaks....110,000 players GONE...that translates to hundreds of thousands of players overall.

And as far as new players....There are almost no new players.  Do you understand this point Viking4s?  There are almost no new players.

 

 

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And with all the alts in the game going for cry would be a slaughter for them all it takes is gauss with DD to aim right at the middle..BOOM all gone. GREAT FUN.

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3 minutes ago, Joeguy said:

 

Again with the personal insults and snide remarks.  You just can't seem to help attacking people and trying to make them feel bad...I guess that is how you feel better about yourself.   Kinda sad.

 

If you'll notice, the lower ranks extend at least to Rank11 or WO1.  I recently did a "Road to WO1" and it took me about ten days of hard playing, sometimes a couple of hours a day to reach WO1 even with my Newbie 1.5X XP bonus on top of the Lockdown 3.0  1.75X XP ...so even with super fast ranking, it still took 12.4 hours of play...not 20 minutes...to go through the low ranks. 

You seem to have an opinion about the crystal boxes...why don't you enlighten us on how crystal boxes instead of supplies are going to help anyone learn to use their turret better.  Or is it that anything Tanki says must be true and good.  Or is it just personal, and the things I say calling bullpucky on Tanki must be wrong and injurious to Tanki?

My biggest problem with Tanki is that they just can't leave anything alone....they have to keep fiddling and changing all the time...and almost always for the worse.   The crystal box change is a pointless and silly update.  It's change for change sake, but it still impacts the game.  Every aspect of the game keeps getting degraded more and more.  The lower ranks were one of the only fun places left to play and now Tanki is coming after them too with their toxic updates.  It's these toxic updates that have purged hundreds of thousands of players from the game.   The poorly conceived updates and naked greed of Tanki is what knocked the player base from 130,000 at peak times to what it is now...well below 20,000 at peaks....110,000 players GONE...that translates to hundreds of thousands of players overall.

And as far as new players....There are almost no new players.  Do you understand this point Viking4s?  There are almost no new players.

 

 

I would say the newbie ranks are made up of 65% new and 35% old guard. Of the new players most will be under adult age so only play for the fun factor and probably don't mind getting killed numerous times in battle. The experienced players enjoy the fun side of it to until they reach a certain rank where the decision to BUY dictates how well they really want to do in battles, and if it's worth the expense knowing full well that the game can cost you quite a bit of cash if you want to perform well at the higher ranks. I class wo1 and above the buyers bracket because combos alts drones modules etc become quite expensive to maintain(upgrade) from those ranks onwards.  

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3 minutes ago, cosmic666 said:

I would say the newbie ranks are made up of 65% new and 35% old guard. Of the new players most will be under adult age so only play for the fun factor and probably don't mind getting killed numerous times in battle. The experienced players enjoy the fun side of it to until they reach a certain rank where the decision to BUY dictates how well they really want to do in battles, and if it's worth the expense knowing full well that the game can cost you quite a bit of cash if you want to perform well at the higher ranks. I class wo1 and above the buyers bracket because combos alts drones modules etc become quite expensive to maintain(upgrade) from those ranks onwards.  

Gosh, from what I've seen, I'd be shocked if even 10% of the players in low rank battles were actual newbies.  Occasionally I do see a real newbie...someone that can't drive or is trying to shoot me and we are on the same team, but certainly the majority of players have been in the rodeo before.

Where would the newbies come from?  Most of the real newbies either wander into Tanki on Steam or some similar platform or they get told about Tanki by a friend.  Both of these systems are pretty inefficient and I just can't imagine many new players even finding Tanki...certainly not 65% of all low rank battles (10 or 11 out of 16 players real newbies...nah).  Maybe 1 or 2 real newbie players in a low rank battle, but even this seems kinda too high.  I would guess Tanki only sees a handful of real new players a day...I'd be surprised if Tanki even sees the average of ten real newbies a day.  What do you think?  (this might make an interesting poll)

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22 hours ago, Viking4s said:

The 10 crystal boxes do not fall, they appears directly above the delimited zone. TO just smartly replaced existing supplies drop zone it is faster and easier to code for the 35 maps (and 15 or so winter themed). Plus it is classical conditional method to train new players to go and look for supplies.

That's non sense. Okay that it is easier for tanki to code, fine.

A classical conditional method to train new plaers to go and look for supplies? Man there are so many drop places that you need to drive carefully if you don't want to pick them up. And you think new players know the difference between a crystal box and a supplie box if they are that new that they don't know how to look for boxes as you say?

But who even cares about the low low ranks? I'm not talking about that at all. At Sergeant-Major the gameplay already starts to get a bit serious. And on that rank you are not talking about 10 crystal boxes anymore. I'm fine in legend, but for sure it will affect gameplay like they are afraid of if they introduce them this many in this way.

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Yes! They will give it back! I like it! There is only one last thing that is missing in the game: the bottom part of madness. I thik if you try to focus on how to compare madness with the anti-cheat system, millions of players would come back ;-)

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10 hours ago, oroget said:

That's non sense. Okay that it is easier for tanki to code, fine.

A classical conditional method to train new plaers to go and look for supplies? Man there are so many drop places that you need to drive carefully if you don't want to pick them up. And you think new players know the difference between a crystal box and a supplie box if they are that new that they don't know how to look for boxes as you say?

But who even cares about the low low ranks? I'm not talking about that at all. At Sergeant-Major the gameplay already starts to get a bit serious. And on that rank you are not talking about 10 crystal boxes anymore. I'm fine in legend, but for sure it will affect gameplay like they are afraid of if they introduce them this many in this way.

Let's say that TO is offering a bit of nostalgia to those who loved tanki the way it was prior to 2014 and the Great Experiment. The opportunity rised to do so as they reworked the gradual introduction of supplies to the game for low ranks. 

The classical conditional methode I mentioned was a joke, that would be like experimenting on human (we are not guinea pig!) ... ofc players will make the difference, however they will be more aware or where the supplies are located (especially for big map).

Crystals boxes reintroduction is only for low ranks (beloe 11), and they won't extend it to all ranks for the very reasons they removed them in the first place. They are plenty of good and valid reasons for not doing that. Saying that, when at the close, the devs might reintroduce them completely for a last dance.

The gold box is the best remnant of this crystals box era: high value, one every 3 battles is a small disturbance. It is like the UFO spaceship in Space Invader that appears once in the while with nice bonus point.

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On some maps I see both crystal boxes and Warrant officers. Announcement says crystal boxes only on map with ranks <= sergeant major.

 

7 hours ago, sensei_tanker said:

You would not believe your eyes, if ten crystals fell from the sky

On many maps and zones crystal boxes fall from the sky, instead of directly appearing on the ground. I have caught a few in air on a low account, by jumping from high ground.

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2 hours ago, 799169 said:

On some maps I see both crystal boxes and Warrant officers. Announcement says crystal boxes only on map with ranks <= sergeant major.

On many maps and zones crystal boxes fall from the sky, instead of directly appearing on the ground. I have caught a few in air on a low account, by jumping from high ground.

This is due to the large range rank bracket, if low ranks in your battles is is likely to have Crystals box instead of the supply.

Yes, that a total mismatch with the announcement, and also on the v-log you can see them dropping from the sky (total mess this is). With time they would correct that, but i think it is good to have both, for variety.

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1 hour ago, fghjkl54 said:

i am confused about new alteration

if my HP is 100 or 50 will the gun be too strong or what?

The Adrenaline augment increases your turret's damage in proportion to the decrease of your tank's health (i.e. the more damage you'll take, the more damage you'll deal).

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