declined Funds for XP/BP

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I think the title is self-explanatory and has probably been discussed many times by a lot of XP/BP players. I feel like the update is going to make a lot of players reluctant in starting out playing XP/BP since any kind of game where u get experience ( even though less) without crystals ain't a great idea. 
The reason that the officials provided for removing funds seem really a rare scenario where players prolong battles just to get more fund.. And btw, even if they did prolong battles, they still probably put in hours to get that fund so I don't get the logic either way. 
And I'm sure most of the XP/BP players play the game to just enjoy since it involves no unfair advantage to players since its purely based on skills and the only thing that could give some players an advantage is a low ping. 
If you're going to reduce experience gained but not make it 0 for XP/BP, why not give funds proportionately based on experience earned in XP/BP. I think at least that; would have served your purpose. But either way, the update serves no purpose but to shoo players who don't play matchmaking away. 

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Declined

The update of fund removal was mostly to prevent easy ways to farm crystals, but a side effect is that more people have moved to MM with lesser equipment but as of now, Developers aren't accepting ideas regarding implementing Changes to the actual Tanki Online to its previous versions, or ideas regarding the removal of updates.

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On 6/13/2020 at 4:39 PM, JonSporty said:

And I'm sure most of the XP/BP players play the game to just enjoy since it involves no unfair advantage to players since its purely based on skills and the only thing that could give some players an advantage is a low ping. 

You don't need battle funds to continue enjoying the format for what it is. Being able to earn battle funds was quite a serious advantage, since you could just stock up battle funds from these battles for other upgrades while playing at no cost whatsoever.

On 6/13/2020 at 4:39 PM, JonSporty said:

If you're going to reduce experience gained but not make it 0 for XP/BP

The only reason PRO battles don't give 0 experience is to still allow rank-up parties to happen, which would be impossible without ability to rank by gaining EXP. Besides that, it's effectively zero.

I agree with your point about new players being less likely to become interested in XP/BP. It's possible that a future update will actually create a Matchmaking branch for XP/BP battles, but I really wouldn't count on it.

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1 hour ago, Maf said:

The only reason PRO battles don't give 0 experience is to still allow rank-up parties to happen

We earn 1 exp now in all PRO battles?

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6 minutes ago, mjmj5558 said:

We earn 1 exp now in all PRO battles?

Non-private, non-format battles still give full EXP, but I expect that to change soon.

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They might as well remove K/D counts from these battles as well.

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1 hour ago, Maf said:

Non-private, non-format battles still give full EXP, but I expect that to change soon.

Oh okay, i hope it will remain.

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On 6/13/2020 at 3:39 PM, JonSporty said:

I think the title is self-explanatory and has probably been discussed many times by a lot of XP/BP players. I feel like the update is going to make a lot of players reluctant in starting out playing XP/BP since any kind of game where u get experience ( even though less) without crystals ain't a great idea. 
The reason that the officials provided for removing funds seem really a rare scenario where players prolong battles just to get more fund.. And btw, even if they did prolong battles, they still probably put in hours to get that fund so I don't get the logic either way. 
And I'm sure most of the XP/BP players play the game to just enjoy since it involves no unfair advantage to players since its purely based on skills and the only thing that could give some players an advantage is a low ping. 
If you're going to reduce experience gained but not make it 0 for XP/BP, why not give funds proportionately based on experience earned in XP/BP. I think at least that; would have served your purpose. But either way, the update serves no purpose but to shoo players who don't play matchmaking away. 

xp bp players do not play challange and they are not spend money for the game . Tanki need a some money and they removed funds for xp-bp players . so what they want ? they want to see you (xp-bp player) in the mm battles for trying to earnd stars and speend some money for the challange pass. Thats all 

Spoiler

and i'm sure Tanki will bring  cost system for xp-bp players soon , if you wanna play , you should pay some crystal and after you can play 

 

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and i forget to say this > worst update in game history .

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3 hours ago, Technoslayer said:

how could you farm crysttals in XP/BP?

The problem was that some people used to play with their friends in non-private battles, rack up funds, then everyone would leave except one person, giving him all the battle fund. And many times the said exploitor wouldn't actually have been playing in the battle all along; he would just join, do a kill or two, and get all the fund.

I guess format battles were just the start, and funds from all PRO battles will soon be removed.

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On 6/13/2020 at 1:39 PM, JonSporty said:

I think the title is self-explanatory and has probably been discussed many times by a lot of XP/BP players. I feel like the update is going to make a lot of players reluctant in starting out playing XP/BP since any kind of game where u get experience ( even though less) without crystals ain't a great idea. 
The reason that the officials provided for removing funds seem really a rare scenario where players prolong battles just to get more fund.. And btw, even if they did prolong battles, they still probably put in hours to get that fund so I don't get the logic either way. 
And I'm sure most of the XP/BP players play the game to just enjoy since it involves no unfair advantage to players since its purely based on skills and the only thing that could give some players an advantage is a low ping. 
If you're going to reduce experience gained but not make it 0 for XP/BP, why not give funds proportionately based on experience earned in XP/BP. I think at least that; would have served your purpose. But either way, the update serves no purpose but to shoo players who don't play matchmaking away. 

If you only play XP/BP you don't need new equipment you already have everything, therefore you do not need crystals. Fund in Xp/Bp remains irrelevant. If you have Mk7 equipment then your rank do not matter either, having xp or not is also irrelevant. This 2 points certainly do not prevent you to continue to use your skill in these fair battle. Now, without the battle fund, it is a pure battle for the win.

You missed many scenarios that abuse the system. The scenario you mentioned is not rare at all.

"the update serves no purpose but to shoo players who don't play matchmaking away", well more to bring them back to MM, and make them use more equipment than just two hulls and one turret. The game offers more than that.

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On 6/15/2020 at 2:15 PM, Viking4s said:

If you only play XP/BP you don't need new equipment you already have everything, therefore you do not need crystals. Fund in Xp/Bp remains irrelevant. If you have Mk7 equipment then your rank do not matter either, having xp or not is also irrelevant. This 2 points certainly do not prevent you to continue to use your skill in these fair battle. Now, without the battle fund, it is a pure battle for the win.

You missed many scenarios that abuse the system. The scenario you mentioned is not rare at all.

"the update serves no purpose but to shoo players who don't play matchmaking away", well more to bring them back to MM, and make them use more equipment than just two hulls and one turret. The game offers more than that.

Yea. So you just proved my point that they're forcing players to try out matchmaking ( which is certainly not entertaining for most hardcore xp bp players ). If you can't listen to players of the game, you shouldn't be making a game.. Basic logic that doesn't apply to tanki developers I guess. 

And no, farming of crystals rarely occur in XP/BP battles. Most of them play it coz it's much more fun than matchmaking. And btw, most players need some amount of crystals to buy pro pass unless you are in a clan. So yes, there is a need for crystals for XP/BP players too.. So yea, you made a lot of wrong points in there.

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17 minutes ago, JonSporty said:

Yea. So you just proved my point that they're forcing players to try out matchmaking ( which is certainly not entertaining for most hardcore xp bp players ). If you can't listen to players of the game, you shouldn't be making a game.. Basic logic that doesn't apply to tanki developers I guess. 

And no, farming of crystals rarely occur in XP/BP battles. Most of them play it coz it's much more fun than matchmaking. And btw, most players need some amount of crystals to buy pro pass unless you are in a clan. So yes, there is a need for crystals for XP/BP players too.. So yea, you made a lot of wrong points in there.

It's obvious they need players in MM.  If you won't contribute to the game by doing it voluntarily, then they will "encourage" you to do so.  They certainly are not "forcing" you as you still have choice to 1) not play MM and 2) play xp bp for FREE.

Beside... you would come into MM with the most OP hull overdrive in the game.  Big advantage there.

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On 6/15/2020 at 11:12 AM, Gauss-Hornet said:

The problem was that some people used to play with their friends in non-private battles, rack up funds, then everyone would leave except one person, giving him all the battle fund. And many times the said exploitor wouldn't actually have been playing in the battle all along; he would just join, do a kill or two, and get all the fund.

I guess format battles were just the start, and funds from all PRO battles will soon be removed.

Well, that's not that common tbh. If you played XP/BP, you'd realize that most of the guys play it coz its fun, not to gain crystals. But you still need a few crystals to get into Pro battles especially if you don't have a clan. 
If they have no other option to reduce the battle fund when players leave and giving that one person left his proportionate amount, they shouldn't be developing games.

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Just now, JonSporty said:

But you still need a few crystals to get into Pro battles

No you do not.

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Umm yes you do.. Unless you're talking about HTML5 which sux.

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

No you do not.

 

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7 minutes ago, JonSporty said:

Umm yes you do.. Unless you're talking about HTML5 which sux.

 

Of course I'm talking about HTML.  That's the future and you might as well start getting used to it - or you won't enjoy the game much.

It's your choice not to use it so you can't complain about no Free Pro-battles.  I play FREE Pro-battles all the time.