Complaint Book

[Meowmix56 174]

I don't like the idea of a complaint book.  It is important for players to feel they are part of a community in which devs listen and respond to their opinions.  It makes them stay longer and pay money more often.  Condensing grievances into a single thread makes it even easier to prune complaints made elsewhere and force players to dump them all in some long thread that no one will read.  As long as it isn't spammy it'd be better to let players voice their complaints and proposed solutions in the appropriate section.

[munjamix 124]

Let me tell you one thing too : Moderators are players too. Just really experienced and really mature, hardworking players. I know many of them personally and I know that they hate mults, saboteurs and hackers as much as any of us do.

As for the problem itself, instead of crying about it, perhaps you could tell the developers a solution to it. How will you stop a player from sabotaging the game? The kick system was a big time failure, IMO. I myself suffered it's abuses on many occasions.

I know what most of you will say, 'Kick 2'. As devs said, it cannot be implemented bow and will only be developed once unity version stabilises. Try to understand that devs are not trying just to get money out of you, they want you to have fun. If they can't implement kick system now, I am pretty sure that there must be some genuine reasons behind it.

When you got more experience than me, then I appreciate your opinion; I experienced enough and old to understand but you do not understand that- I do not care how it will solve the problem-I want to solve it-I would with my friends could play...  One of the solutions: Let them introduce a greater number of moderators in the game, kick 2 ,kick 3 or kick 10- I do not care :) I just want to play fair. Do not get me wrong, I do not want to offend- but I am someone who can not tolerate injustice in game;  and I do not want someone who has not spent much time in the game - to teach me some things. Sorry for my bad english.

 

I don't like the idea of a complaint book.  It is important for players to feel they are part of a community in which devs listen and respond to their opinions.  It makes them stay longer and pay money more often.  Condensing grievances into a single thread makes it even easier to prune complaints made elsewhere and force players to dump them all in some long thread that no one will read.  As long as it isn't spammy it'd be better to let players voice their complaints and proposed solutions in the appropriate section.

i like this idea :)  I feel that I'm part of the community, and I can tell  what bothers me and what I want to repair :)

Edited May 4, 2015 by munjamix

[beaku 2,656]

When you got more experience than me, then I appreciate your opinion; I experienced enough and old to understand but you do not understand that- I do not care how it will solve the problem-I want to solve it-I would with my friends could play... One of the solutions: Let them introduce a greater number of moderators in the game, kick 2 ,kick 3 or kick 10- I do not care :) I just want to play fair. Do not get me wrong, I do not want to offend- but I am someone who can not tolerate injustice in game; and I do not want someone who has not spent much time in the game - to teach me some things. Sorry for my bad english.

 

 

i like this idea :) I feel that I'm part of the community, and I can tell what bothers me and what I want to repair :)

I really have no idea what you are basing your argument upon that I am not experienced. In fact, I have been playing this game long before you. So, neglecting my reason with a senseless remark won't really help. If you think that there is injustice in game, tell us how to fix it. If you can't, then have patience. Developers will work out problems with Mults.

As you said, you like playing with your friends. Why don't you all create a private battle? It will prevent any problems of saboteur arising.

Edited May 4, 2015 by beaku

[Kyoko_Kirigiri 1,061]

 

I'm looking for feedback from the experienced players and i  think -You're not one of them- no offense... My opinion about this game -many saboteurs-i hate it.  I want to hear the opinion of a moderator because they do not have experience with it. I want to tell them- in this area have not done a good job

 

 

 

When you got more experience than me, then I appreciate your opinion; I experienced enough and old to understand but you do not understand that- I do not care how it will solve the problem-I want to solve it-I would with my friends could play...  One of the solutions: Let them introduce a greater number of moderators in the game, kick 2 ,kick 3 or kick 10- I do not care :) I just want to play fair. Do not get me wrong, I do not want to offend- but I am someone who can not tolerate injustice in game;  and I do not want someone who has not spent much time in the game - to teach me some things. Sorry for my bad english.

 

Firstly, let me start by saying @beaku is very experienced with the game; honestly you don't even have to play the game to know everything about it. Also, moderators do play the game as well you know, how else have we reached the rank we're today? I've played this for nearly 4 years and have only recently become a staff member, trust me, we know how it feels. I do understand that people who sabotage are annoying, who doesn't find them to be? Beaku has already told you everything that you need to know, If you aren't happy, report the hackers/mults, think of solutions to over come them instead of wasting your time complaining about them.

[RustyNail 1,538]

I have only once bought 200 crystals in game (during 70% discount) and got a big lecture at home after that.... So no, I am not a buyer. If a project develops it's product or changes it in a way so that more people would like to pay for it, I find nothing wrong with it. There is a difference between 'Making the players pay' and 'Making the game fun, so players would like to pay'. IMO, Tanki has been leaning towards the latter all this while.

As for balance, calm down, sit alone and think on it for a while. If perfect balance existed in game, would you still be playing it. Despite any arguments or thoughts that might arise I tell you, more than 90% of players here wouldn't. It starts at Recruit when you see a Sergeant using 'that awesome weapon which blows ice' and you race to buy it.... And it continues all the way till Generalissimo. Some weapons will always be powerful in some situations than others.

An example of perfect balance would be, 'Vulcan and freeze equally effective in short range and long range (don't imagine... It's just an example)'. Why would anyone then buy Vulcan, if freeze is just as effective?

It's not unbalance, if you get killed by a freeze or thunder everytime in a polygon CP. That's where these turrets are meant to be used at their best potential.

About drugs, drugs change the potential of a tank drastically. An inexperienced M2 combo can easily destroy most experienced M4 combos only by usage of drugs. That's where Tanki's Free-to-play model comes in to rescue. There is nothing on Tanki that cannot be bought by non buyers, unlike many other games. If you are getting beaten by drug use, learn to use them too!

Collect them from dailies and from events like 'Players Vs. Helpers'. Save up for your dream kit which also gives you some drugs for free. It's not as difficult as it seems. While most players my rank struggle to get above 300-400 drugs, here I am with over 2500-3000 of each.

Except the update that ruined isida's gameplay, personally, I didn't find any drastic change in rebalance. I still don't understand what updates are you referring to when you say that they make players 'pay more'.

 

I heared all that you said, many times. I don't have the courage to reply for the third or fourth time... but I tell you, you are wrong. Take a walk in locked topics regarding drugs and you 'll see them all there...

[beaku 2,656]

I heared all that you said, many times. I don't have the courage to reply for the third or fourth time... but I tell you, you are wrong. Take a walk in locked topics regarding drugs and you 'll see them all there...

There are thousands of locked topics and even one great unlocked one all about drugs. You know, I used to reply on the other topic and stopped after some time thinking that topics would be locked soon. It did and got unlocked again. After that happened, I gave a thought to it and decided that I should ask more people about how they feel on drugs. Let me tell you, there are more than 150 players of Tanki living near my house and I know 15-20 of them personally. Most of them have a rank higher than brigadier while some are still Warrant Officers.

The replies I got in general were complaints. Drugs being too OP and making game unpredictable, etc. Then I asked them to analyse a situation where drugs had a longer cool down period and were less powerful. 99% of them replied that gameplay would become boring and the current scenario is better. Nerfing drugs anymore will just render them useless.

I never actually realised why you and some more people are totally against drugs. I mean, takeovers and loss are all part of the game. You can't expect to win every single battle you play. In normal battles, I drug a lot and yet the ratio of wins to losses is 1:9. Yes. Out of every 10 battles I play, I win 1. Doesn't mean that I hate rest of the 9 battles. This is because I am not here to win. I am here to play, to enjoy and to learn.

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

Three more things I forgot to put in my previous post:

 

1. There isn't really a way to ban people from gameplay if they hack or sabotage players. People using Railgun or Hammer like flipping teammates. Either be able to ban players from the gameplay or delete the effects of the impact force of teammates unless in Parkour Battle.

 

2. You shouldn't be able to do damage to people in parkour battles. People like to troll the people doing parkour by killing them. 

 

3. The rankings to buy kits. Ever since the Bulldozer kit that you can unlock at major, I don't see any thunder m2s or below for people ranked above major, only m3 thunders. 

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

Why is everyone saying drugs(in tanki) are wrong? You can use them just like everyone else does. Some people can buy them in the garage but they just use their own crystals getting it. If you guys think drugging is too OP, why don't you drug and become as OP as everyone else?

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

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Firstly, let me start by saying @beaku is very experienced with the game; honestly you don't even have to play the game to know everything about it. Also, moderators do play the game as well you know, how else have we reached the rank we're today? I've played this for nearly 4 years and have only recently become a staff member, trust me, we know how it feels. I do understand that people who sabotage are annoying, who doesn't find them to be? Beaku has already told you everything that you need to know, If you aren't happy, report the hackers/mults, think of solutions to over come them instead of wasting your time complaining about them.

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hahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahaha..you are serious with this statement?

 

who is he to answer?,,developer?..staff member?..answers like his are are very funny and going into "I want to be staff" direction,which means "don't bite hand that feeds you" :)

 

we can complain,why shouldn't we?..or do we all need to be satisfied with everything devs serve us?..not react on game propaganda (updates from last 2 years) by many of staff?..here's example..here,as on RU forum,we have Vlogs..when 99% of the players aren't satisfied with news,ONLY STAFF hails and loves the "news"..a bit odd,isn't it? ;)

 

heck,I'm even not taking you serious,just because of your text in yellow and red ;) you can sell this to newcomers,not to the old players :)

Edited May 5, 2015 by xXx.RazoR.xXx

[munjamix 124]

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Firstly, let me start by saying @beaku is very experienced with the game; honestly you don't even have to play the game to know everything about it. Also, moderators do play the game as well you know, how else have we reached the rank we're today? I've played this for nearly 4 years and have only recently become a staff member, trust me, we know how it feels. I do understand that people who sabotage are annoying, who doesn't find them to be? Beaku has already told you everything that you need to know, If you aren't happy, report the hackers/mults, think of solutions to over come them instead of wasting your time complaining about them.

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hahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahaha..you are serious with this statement?

 

 

who is he to answer?,,developer?..staff member?..answers like his are are very funny and going into "I want to be staff" direction,which means "don't bite hand that feeds you" :)

 

we can complain,why shouldn't we?..or do we all need to be satisfied with everything devs serve us?..not react on game propaganda (updates from last 2 years) by many of staff?..here's example..here,as on RU forum,we have Vlogs..when 99% of the players aren't satisfied with news,ONLY STAFF hails and loves the "news"..a bit odd,isn't it? ;)

 

heck,I'm even not taking you serious,just because of your text in yellow and red ;) you can sell this to newcomers,not to the old players :)

I agree with your answer 100%

[beaku 2,656]

hahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahaha..you are serious with this statement?

 

who is he to answer?,,developer?..staff member?..answers like his are are very funny and going into "I want to be staff" direction,which means "don't bite hand that feeds you" :)

 

we can complain,why shouldn't we?..or do we all need to be satisfied with everything devs serve us?..not react on game propaganda (updates from last 2 years) by many of staff?..here's example..here,as on RU forum,we have Vlogs..when 99% of the players aren't satisfied with news,ONLY STAFF hails and loves the "news"..a bit odd,isn't it? ;)

 

heck,I'm even not taking you serious,just because of your text in yellow and red ;) you can sell this to newcomers,not to the old players :)

Yes, he is serious. You don't have to play a game to know all about it. The other way round is also true. Even by playing the game for a long time, you might not know everything about it.

 

This statement itself showed how inexperienced you are. Does one need to be a developer to know everything about game? As for helpers, they are regular players too. Since you deem my answers funny and biased, I would like you to find mistakes in them. Go ahead. Instead of blabbing around, find those mistakes.

 

You can complaint. Complaint all you want. Make thousands of topics if that satisfies you. But, will that really make a difference to the game? Will a developer going through this section open up a complaint book or hundreds of other ideas which might make the game better? Choice is yours. Cry about the situation and not make any difference to it or think of solutions and present them.

Becoming a staff member never takes away your individuality. It is not the case that a staff member likes an update because he is forced to do it. In fact, I have seen many staff members criticising an update. Last I remember, I saw 's post criticising rebalance by the way it affected freeze.

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

Yes, he is serious.

 

I would like you to find mistakes in them. Go ahead. Instead of blabbing around, find those mistakes.

 

Cry about the situation and not make any difference to it or think of solutions and present them.

Last I remember, I saw 's post criticising rebalance by the way it affected freeze.

then it is sad if he is :(

 

this excattly!..instead of finding mistakes/flaws in other people comments you do that excattly!..blabbing like "it will never be".."it could never be!..that's 75% of YOUR posts ;)

 

solutions are made by numerous of players here on forum,MANY players support ideas,and still no reaction from devs,players are those who play the game,they know the best what is needed,they are proposing much,some ideas are brilliant,but have you seen them implemented in system?

 

yes,I agree,maybe I wasn't exact..OLD staff memebrs,like Ostrica,FBI..I respect them and their opinion,although they tend to support everything devs introduce,they have courrage to criticise when needed,when updates are unnecesseary or STUPID,also Damn_Slow does it to,in his own,funny way ;)

[beaku 2,656]

then it is sad if he is :(

 

this excattly!..instead of finding mistakes/flaws in other people comments you do that excattly!..blabbing like "it will never be".."it could never be!..that's 75% of YOUR posts ;)

 

solutions are made by numerous of players here on forum,MANY players support ideas,and still no reaction from devs,players are those who play the game,they know the best what is needed,they are proposing much,some ideas are brilliant,but have you seen them implemented in system?

 

yes,I agree,maybe I wasn't exact..OLD staff memebrs,like Ostrica,FBI..I respect them and their opinion,although they tend to support everything devs introduce,they have courrage to criticise when needed,when updates are unnecesseary or STUPID,also Damn_Slow does it to,in his own,funny way ;)

If you could please explain what you have got against the concept of knowing about the game without playing it for everyday hours on end...

 

And once again you back off and twist your words. You said my answers are funny and biased towards supporting the developers no matter what. I told you to tell me one thing in my post that does not have proper reasoning. If you can't do that, then kindly don't play blame games and criticise.

 

What kind of reaction do you want? Do you want then to come to your home and gift you for 'that amazing idea'? Or do you want then to announce it on the homepage about 'the ultimate solution'? In the 4 years that I have played this game, I have seen many ideas being implemented based upon feedback and popular demand from player base. Few of them are Smart Cool downs, Format Battles and many more that I wouldn't care to mention. You have to understand that implementing an update is not as simple as clicking a button. It is a mammoth task. They have to design it, plan the implementation, predict outcomes, code it, debug it, test it and so on. Each is these steps takes lots of resources and time. TBH, I am surprised that they have been able to roll out so many amazing updates even with development of unity version at hand.

 

All staff members, new or old, have their individuality. They do dislike some updates in one way or other but you can't expect them to open huge topics and blab about them and say that devs are bad...etc. They have a responsibility, a duty to be done. In the end, they are as affected by an update as any of us.

[RustyNail 1,538]

There are thousands of locked topics and even one great unlocked one all about drugs. You know, I used to reply on the other topic and stopped after some time thinking that topics would be locked soon. It did and got unlocked again. After that happened, I gave a thought to it and decided that I should ask more people about how they feel on drugs. Let me tell you, there are more than 150 players of Tanki living near my house and I know 15-20 of them personally. Most of them have a rank higher than brigadier while some are still Warrant Officers.

The replies I got in general were complaints. Drugs being too OP and making game unpredictable, etc. Then I asked them to analyse a situation where drugs had a longer cool down period and were less powerful. 99% of them replied that gameplay would become boring and the current scenario is better. Nerfing drugs anymore will just render them useless.

I never actually realised why you and some more people are totally against drugs. I mean, takeovers and loss are all part of the game. You can't expect to win every single battle you play. In normal battles, I drug a lot and yet the ratio of wins to losses is 1:9. Yes. Out of every 10 battles I play, I win 1. Doesn't mean that I hate rest of the 9 battles. This is because I am not here to win. I am here to play, to enjoy and to learn.

Dude, I 'm bored to answer all that you wrote, although I could (150 players in the neighborhood? School kids no doubt). But here's the bottom line.

Only two things are required in order to saficiently smoothen the drugging problem.

1. Canceling the massive supplies sales (and maybe increase a little the supplies cost), and

2. Applying a small cooling period (say 10 secs) to health packs*.

 

Thus constant drugging would be practically unbearable even to big time buyers. And raiding based on constant drugging would also become hard since no health pack would be available for even a 10 seconds after using some other drug.

 

BUT, Tanki will lose money from this, so it won't happen.

Although, this income DIDN'T EXISTED before smart cooldown, and it's a kind of overprofit to the company.

(do I seem like I don't want Tanki to prosper? Wrong! All I say is find another way to get that money - and even more! - apart from making game miserable for many people.)

 

Now, do me a favor, since all that you say are no news and are answered many times before, maybe you should find another subject to spend your spare time... No offence, really.

 

 

* EDIT: I meant a small delay after EVERY other supply used.

Edited May 6, 2015 by RustyNail

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

-Tanki propaganda-

I am so tired of explaining to you such obvious things you actually don't see or intenionally choose not to see..I'll just reffer to this --I am surprised that they have been able to roll out so many amazing updates--which excattly are "amazing"???..give me one decent update as example which is not connected with discounts/goldboxes/funds..one update which players actually liked..any update about the game it self!..I really don't wan't to be rude,but please,grow up once.. every furhter debate with you ends here as far as I'm concerned untill you grow up OR you became part of staff (although I'm sure that I'll ignore you when that occurs too)..

[T.O.T.A.L.W.A.R 581]

I am so tired of explaining to you such obvious things you actually don't see or intenionally choose not to see..

He is like that all over the forum solutions == ignore that kid  :D

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

He is like that all over the forum solutions == ignore that kid  :D

thx for the advice,I'll stick to it :D

[beaku 2,656]

It is simply not my mistake if you just want to stick to your opinions without any reason. If you give me a proper reason, I will certainly think about it and might even accept your opinion. All you say is 'Devs are Bad', 'Update sucks! ', etc.

As for your unreasonable bias against me, let me tell you one thing, I wouldn't stick to some one else's opinion if I don't believe in it, no matter what. Nothing on Earth will force me to give opinions which I don't want to. For example, I am against rebalance as it changed isida's gameplay. You can view that topic (it exists in this section) to see my criticism against the update.

As for the updates, you didn't read my post completely. I specifically mentioned 'Smart Cool Downs'and l 'Format Battles. You are tired of drugging with SCD. Have you ever thought what it could have been without SCD? I don't know about you, but I remember that raiding used to be much worse.

[Moraine 5,877]

All staff members, new or old, have their individuality. They do dislike some updates in one way or other but you can't expect them to open huge topics and blab about them and say that devs are bad...etc. They have a responsibility, a duty to be done. In the end, they are as affected by an update as any of us.

Thank you for noting, understanding and appreciating our work, our individuality and our opinion ;)

[jazz20 1,181]

I'm looking for feedback from the experienced players and i  think -You're not one of them- no offense...

Stereo-typing......

Edited May 6, 2015 by jazz20

[RustyNail 1,538]

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As for the updates, you didn't read my post completely. I specifically mentioned 'Smart Cool Downs'and l 'Format Battles. You are tired of drugging with SCD. Have you ever thought what it could have been without SCD? I don't know about you, but I remember that raiding used to be much worse.

 

Please, PLEASE! All that s_it started after Tanki flooded players with supplies. Before that, druggers where not that bad. Just like the crystal drops of 20 to 100 that made a mess of the battles and gave the alibi to Devs to remove crystal drops. Regardless of whether that was good or bad (it was good for some, bad for others) it was on purpose, as flooding supplies to players happened on purpose. So please, for the last time, it's not some 13 yo boy you 're talking to, stop using shallow and false arguments.

[beaku 2,656]

Please, PLEASE! All that s_it started after Tanki flooded players with supplies. Before that, druggers where not that bad. Just like the crystal drops of 20 to 100 that made a mess of the battles and gave the alibi to Devs to remove crystal drops. Regardless of whether that was good or bad (it was good for some, bad for others) it was on purpose, as flooding supplies to players happened on purpose. So please, for the last time, it's not some 13 yo boy you 're talking to, stop using shallow and false arguments.

Tanki doubled everyone's supplies. Isn't that what you are referring to? Well, IMO, it was a good move. It gave everyone an equal chance and not just to those who already had bought loads of supplies before the update. If you think that drugging has become worse, it is because earlier, drop boxes did not last as long as garage supplies. They do now. Also, predictable drops has made it easier even for inexperienced players, to find drop zones. Earlier, only players who has played a map for a long time had a general idea of which supply dropped where. That, IMO, was unfair.

In most standard battles, drugging can successfully be neutralised by drugging and teamwork on our sides. I always first get control over some drop zones before proceeding to clash with the enemy. If I believe that drugging on their side has become too much to be neutralised, I leave the battle. Simple.

[RustyNail 1,538]

..., drugging can successfully be neutralised by drugging ...

Ok, that's it. No more of these bul_its. You are unbelievable. End of discussion for me, you might want to find some small kid to persuade with these kind of "arguments".

[beaku 2,656]

Ok, that's it. No more of these bul_its. You are unbelievable. End of discussion for me, you might want to find some small kid to persuade with these kind of "arguments".

Alright then. Persuade me why drugging cannot be neutralised by drugging. Instead of just criticising my point of view, why don't you explain yours?

[r_priyangshu0 270]

Alright then. Persuade me why drugging cannot be neutralised by drugging. Instead of just criticising my point of view, why don't you explain yours?

He did.

Edited May 7, 2015 by r_priyangshu0