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[Happy03 0]

The new matchmaking system is hard for people with laggy computers!!! They put the person with a laggy computer in a huge battle so that the player is super laggy and can't do anything!!! And also sometimes the people end up with people with super high rankings, and that is unfair, so it is hard to finish missions!!!! There is nothing wrond with the the battle list where you can choose non-pro battle!!!

 

Edited November 1, 2017 by Ninja
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[Prince_Of_Railgun290 320]

 

This is really stupid, what kind of fund distribution is this?

 

 

Yes my team lost 10-0. Druugers joined the other team and people started leaving. And as you know, mostly noobs join the losing team, either from the new buttons or, worse, from the battle list.

 

Yes I stayed from beginning to end. It is a trow away account so I don't care much.

 

What is the message here, as soon as you see druggers and they capture the first flag, leave? And then only join winning teams?

 

Tanki has great potential, but things like Overdrive, uncontrolled MUs and Magnum just ruin it. I guess that is why there are a lot of veterans playing in the beginning ranks.

 

if u think your team is losing, druggers are not the only problem, he problem is also some of your teammates lagging

Edited November 1, 2017 by CooperO
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[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

 

 

This is really stupid, what kind of fund distribution is this?

 

 

Yes my team lost 10-0. Druugers joined the other team and people started leaving. And as you know, mostly noobs join the losing team, either from the new buttons or, worse, from the battle list.

 

Yes I stayed from beginning to end. It is a trow away account so I don't care much.

 

What is the message here, as soon as you see druggers and they capture the first flag, leave? And then only join winning teams?

 

Tanki has great potential, but things like Overdrive, uncontrolled MUs and Magnum just ruin it. I guess that is why there are a lot of veterans playing in the beginning ranks.

 

 

the problem is that the enemies happened to be too good and your team happened to be too noob. that's it; matchmaking should fix this, uneven fund distribution is to make people motivated to win. the more uneven it is, the more motivated they will be, usually as long as your teammates aren't that crappy you can still win.

 

[ghost-guns 1,486]

The latest update is going to cause me to break my mission chain and ultimately stop playing tanki online. Missions are too much hard work as I am randomly sent to any battle and it can take a long time to complete said mission. This is not enjoyable.

[wolverine848 13,097]

the problem is that the enemies happened to be too good and your team happened to be too noob. that's it; matchmaking should fix this, uneven fund distribution is to make people motivated to win. the more uneven it is, the more motivated they will be, usually as long as your teammates aren't that crappy you can still win.

 

What it will do is motivate people to leave the battle earlier.  Already happens A LOT.

 

Top score (nabil) on losing team had 351 pts and received 60 crys

Bottom score (bigmarker) on winning team had 117 pts and earned 83 crystals.

 

So someone along for the ride on winning team benefited dis-proportionally at the expense of the losing team.

 

It's a terrible economic system.

[Eithern 412]

Ok I'm tired of this S**T, in almost EVERY battle I succeed to join, just minutes from the end the game shows connection closed error and even if I'm very fast to reload I'm kicked out of the battle and all my points and score are lost... fix this HUGE problem by tomorrow or give me a refund (I've lost at least 10k crystals...).

@CooperO who can I ask to get a refund? I don't care if they don't do it anymore, I require all the crystals that I haven't earned because of those stupid updates.

[SlowMotion 173]

Look, i post one battle link in my private chat so others can't join and when i press it to join it doesn't show the battle...What is the problem?Glitch of this battle? My friends are playing normally in it 

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

What it will do is motivate people to leave the battle earlier.  Already happens A LOT.

 

Top score (nabil) on losing team had 351 pts and received 60 crys

Bottom score (bigmarker) on winning team had 117 pts and earned 83 crystals.

 

So someone along for the ride on winning team benefited dis-proportionally at the expense of the losing team.

 

It's a terrible economic system.

his team was full off low ranks but he didn't leave, instead he stayed and fought like a man, and he won.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

the problem is that the enemies happened to be too good and your team happened to be too noob. that's it; matchmaking should fix this, uneven fund distribution is to make people motivated to win. the more uneven it is, the more motivated they will be, usually as long as your teammates aren't that crappy you can still win.

 

I think 2 drugging friends with M1s joined our battle, because they started savaging from the beginning. Many people leave when they see something like this and then only noobs join a losing team. I was playing with M0s, because I'm saving for a kit.  My complain was about battle fund distribution.

 

One solution to help this situation could be that the funds that were supposed to go to the people who left should be divided between all players  based on their score. That may discourage a little those spawn killings that try to make players abandon their team.

Edited November 1, 2017 by r_Issimo2

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Yeah the recent update hasn't worked. I'm still getting severe lags.

[wolverine848 13,097]

his team was full off low ranks but he didn't leave, instead he stayed and fought like a man, and he won.

Who is "he"?  Red-blotch?   Highest ranked with k/d 84/1?  Fought on like a man?  LOL

Seems like "he" had a real tough time. Was Pyc6 an Isida healing "him" or a flag capper - 7/21 could be either.

 

"fought like a man" is when you are getting destroyed and keep going, not when you have an obvious advantage over opposition.

 

And my point was that uneven fund distribution does not motivate people to win.  Good chance "nabil" exits a similar battle after getting a measly 60 crystals for a score of 351 - third best in entire battle.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Who is "he"? Red-blotch? Highest ranked with k/d 84/1? Fought on like a man? LOL

Seems like "he" had a real tough time. Was Pyc6 an Isida healing "him" or a flag capper - 7/21 could be either.

 

"fought like a man" is when you are getting destroyed and keep going, not when you have an obvious advantage over opposition.

 

And my point was that uneven fund distribution does not motivate people to win. Good chance "nabil" exits a similar battle after getting a measly 60 crystals for a score of 351 - third best in entire battle.

yeah the red blotch. enemy team was a bunch of high ranked bullies, killing even though not a single person on the other team was ranked higher than lieutenant. my friend went in and targeted those bullies, thats why those majors and lieutenant colonels finished at the bottom.

 

you join a team thats getting beaten up by stronger people alone, and make that team win. he was only highest ranked in his team becaus his team was full of low rankers, you think a lieuenant colonel has a clear advantage over 3 majors and another lieutenant colonel?

[CooperO 7,956]

What it will do is motivate people to leave the battle earlier.  Already happens A LOT.

 

Top score (nabil) on losing team had 351 pts and received 60 crys

Bottom score (bigmarker) on winning team had 117 pts and earned 83 crystals.

 

So someone along for the ride on winning team benefited dis-proportionally at the expense of the losing team.

 

It's a terrible economic system.

While I think the winning team should definitely be rewarded for their victory, I do agree that it's not fair to give a player that fought all battle got less than some player that either joined late or played badly on the winning team. In your opinion, what would be a fair way to distribute the fund?

 

@CooperO who can I ask to get a refund? I don't care if they don't do it anymore, I require all the crystals that I haven't earned because of those stupid updates.

Like you said, they won't refund crystals, so there's not really a point in trying it anyway. The best I can do for you is to forward your complaint.

 

Look, i post one battle link in my private chat so others can't join and when i press it to join it doesn't show the battle...What is the problem?Glitch of this battle? My friends are playing normally in it 

This happened with one battle or did it happen more often with other battles too?

[wolverine848 13,097]

yeah the red blotch. enemy team was a bunch of high ranked bullies, killing even though not a single person on the other team was ranked higher than lieutenant. my friend went in and targeted those bullies, thats why those majors and lieutenant colonels finished at the bottom.

 

you join a team thats getting beaten up by stronger people alone, and make that team win. he was only highest ranked in his team becaus his team was full of low rankers, you think a lieuenant colonel has a clear advantage over 3 majors and another lieutenant colonel?

84 / 1  ... 84-to-1 .... eighty-four / one. 

 

Yeah, that's a clear advantage.  Lots of MUs?  Protection? Opposition using lesser equipment?

 

Who know why, but the 84-to-1 ratio says a lot.

 

While I think the winning team should definitely be rewarded for their victory, I do agree that it's not fair to give a player that fought all battle got less than some player that either joined late or played badly on the winning team. In your opinion, what would be a fair way to distribute the fund?

 

Not sure how difficult it would be to implement but I think there needs to be two parts to the reward...

1) Split of battle-fund based on team results

2) Performance (score) bonus relative to all those in the battle. Pool of crystals divided purely by score? 

 

If you know that you will be (at least partially) compensated for your time in battle you might be more willing to...

A) stay in a battle on the losing team - (everyone has limits though and complete spawn-kill-fests will make anyone leave)

B) join a team that is losing in hopes you can turn it around, but still get something for your time if team loses.

 

As it is now, what's my incentive to join those battles?  Doubtful even missions could be accomplished if spending most of time re-spawning.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

yeah the red blotch. enemy team was a bunch of high ranked bullies, killing even though not a single person on the other team was ranked higher than lieutenant. my friend went in and targeted those bullies, thats why those majors and lieutenant colonels finished at the bottom.

 

you join a team thats getting beaten up by stronger people alone, and make that team win. he was only highest ranked in his team becaus his team was full of low rankers, you think a lieuenant colonel has a clear advantage over 3 majors and another lieutenant colonel?

 

Your friend looks like he has bought some M2 kits, that combination is probably close to M3, and looks like he drugged a lot. You talk about him as a defender of low ranks, that could be the case but because the enemies are high ranks it doesn't mean they have great equipment or that they drugged.

 

I have no sympathy for them, but this talk is about battle fund distribution.

Edited November 1, 2017 by r_Issimo2

[SlowMotion 173]

 

 

This happened with one battle or did it happen more often with other battles too?

With 2 battles...And then i joined from other account in the same battle and it worked...

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

84 / 1 ... 84-to-1 .... eighty-four / one.

 

Yeah, that's a clear advantage. Lots of MUs? Protection? Opposition using lesser equipment?

 

Who know why, but the 84-to-1 ratio says a lot.

 

no MUs at all actually, but even if he did have fully MUed equipment(he doesnt) whats a m3 combo against 4 m2 combos?

 

84/1... he has gotten over a hundred kills and 0 deaths im battles where he didnt join the losing team against a much stronger one

 

im not sure if it was him but i think he got 136/0 before

 

Your friend looks like he has bought some M2 kits, that combination is probably close to M3, and looks like he drugged a lot. You talk about him as a defender of low ranks, that could be the case but because the enemies are high ranks it doesn't mean they have great equipment or that they drugged.

 

I have no sympathy for them, but this talk is about battle fund distribution.

yes he has bought m2 kits but no they are not anywhere close to m3. also, yes, he did drug a lot.

 

i was just saying that matchmaking should solve these imbalanced teams while right now its not that hard to help your team win, yes sometimes its nearly impossible but that doesnt happen all the time, most of the time you just need to try hard enough or get lucky and have someone like my friend join your team.

Edited November 2, 2017 by CooperO
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[r_Issimo2 1,495]

yes he has bought m2 kits but no they are not anywhere close to m3. also, yes, he did drug a lot.

 

i was just saying that matchmaking should solve these imbalanced teams while right now its not that hard to help your team win, yes sometimes its nearly impossible but that doesnt happen all the time, most of the time you just need to try hard enough or get lucky and have someone like my friend join your team.

That map is awesome for a drugging Titan. Spawn killing and Overdrives...

 

Matchmaking may just keep sending players to a losing team. That is why during the test there was many battles where one team was of the same rank and the other full of higher ranks.

 

My alternative idea to Matchmaking is one where you can chose the battle but not the team. One single button to join a battle and the system could balance the teams by ranks.

 

 

 

 

If the battle started with a WO4 in blue team, then a WO2 joins red, the next low rank would be sent to the blue team and a high rank to red.

[wolverine848 13,097]

That map is awesome for a drugging Titan. Spawn killing and Overdrives...

 

Matchmaking may just keep sending players to a losing team. That is why during the test there was many battles where one team was of the same rank and the other full of higher ranks.

 

My alternative idea to Matchmaking is one where you can chose the battle but not the team. One single button to join a battle and the system could balance the teams by ranks.

 

 

 

 

If the battle started with a WO4 in blue team, then a WO2 joins red, the next low rank would be sent to the blue team and a high rank to red.

Red = Major

Blue = WO4

 

Where does next person (who is 3rd Lt.) go?

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Can't join battles, could be lag, maybe you need to add filters for Standard and PRO Battles.

 

Red = Major

Blue = WO4

 

Where does next person (who is 3rd Lt.) go?

First they should shorten the rank bracket to 5 ranks wide, but if they don't the 3LT would go to the blue team

[ghost-guns 1,486]

What has happened to the battle listing page? There are no XP/BP battles anywhere.

 

You cannot be serious. Is it a new update where I can only view one battle mode at a time?

[wolverine848 13,097]

Can't join battles, could be lag, maybe you need to add filters for Standard and PRO Battles.

 

First they should shorten the rank bracket to 5 ranks wide, but if they don't the 3LT would go to the blue team

OK... so then it would be....

 

Red = Major

Blue = WO4 + 3LT

 

Now, what if another Major tries to join?

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

OK... so then it would be....

 

Red = Major

Blue = WO4 + 3LT

 

Now, what if another Major tries to join?

I knew you were going to ask that, so I already had the answer: The new Major will not be able to join Red nor Blue at this moment to not create more imbalance, the battle for him or her will be grayed out in the list.

 

This idea could allow for a Play button to be in each battle of the battle list.

Edited November 2, 2017 by r_Issimo2

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

OK... so then it would be....

 

Red = Major

Blue = WO4 + 3LT

 

Now, what if another Major tries to join?

Perhaps we need a system that takes into account the equipment level as well, if your true goal is to create balanced teams.

 

 

I knew you were going to ask that, so I already had the answer: The new Major will not be able to join Red nor Blue at this moment to not create more imbalance, the battle for him or her will be grayed out in the list.

 

This idea could allow for a Play button to be in each battle of the battle list.

Really, players are already spending too much time in the lobby looking for suitable battles.   We can't fix the battles with eugenics.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Really, players are already spending too much time in the lobby looking for suitable battles.   We can't fix the battles with eugenics.

 

This is for those that use the battle list, others will be joining with the new buttons. And with a revised reward system it could be a good compromise. The other alternative is Matchmaking where you have zero control other than the mode.