Complaint Book

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I'm quitting the game and have asked the team to delete my account.

This is not enjoyable anymore and it hasn't been for a long time.

I should have quit the game in 2015/16 when most people left. Since then the game has got constantly worse. I am deleting my account as I believe the game has no future and will not change for the better. I don't want to waste another minute of my time on it.

I regret spending so much time saving for and microupgrading my equipment, when overdrives now destroy my tank with ease.

The community is mostly unfriendly and buyers run the show, often taunting players in battle.

There is no balance what-so-ever.

The p2w nature of the game is also a turn off (I have never spent money). Since a lot of children play this game, I think loot boxes are morally wrong as it is esentially gambling...

[wolverine848 13,097]

11 hours ago, NIteOwl_OvO said:

The sonar does give a team an advantage, but not like the nuke in CTF, CP and Seige. One nuke can clear out your defense and allow the enemy to take over your base. By the time you take it back they have a lead you can't overtake and they just send in another nuke. Rinse and repeat. Sonar doesn't help you when the enemy has your base.

 The biggest difference is you have a chance to counter the bomb.  Hunter or Titan sitting in base can't prevent the hornet from doing it's killing.

Since murder-hornet OD ignores DA and ignores modules and ignores Titan dome and ignores spawn-protection, you can't counter it at all.  A magnum-hornet or Gauss-hornet can clear out the base and still have plenty of time left from that 20 seconds to do plenty of spawn-killing.

And for the wasp trying to zip in and drop the bomb?  A viking or hornet with OD ready can easily take care of that.

The bomb can be effective - but it needs to get placed.  Hornets and vikings do not need to get close to be effective.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

7 hours ago, cosmic666 said:

"I think you are missing something here, MURDER HORNET is THE most OP game changing piece of equipment ever in the history of TO.... wiping out everything in its path. 

 

Why MURDER HORNET is still OP (been months now) after the great deceiver UNCLE HAZEL stated that they (and I quote) LISTEN TO PLAYER feedback and act accordingly on the statistics they gather from the game to better understand what needs to be done so that 1 particular hull/turret does not become to strong. Never heard so much bullcrap. It is quite obvious that MURDER HORNET will never get a nerf, for some reason (that has never ever been explained to us) it remains the OP game changer of all time. 

Why do you always capitalizes "MURDER HORNET" all the time? It tells me that you are shouting and raging like hell. 

Yes, the Radar is OP, I used myself and whenever I pop DP + Brutus + HC, I can deal full 9075 damage per charged shot. But the point you said "wiping out everything in its path", this depends on what turret + its augment + drone type that tanker is using, some are more OP than other.

Reason why Hornet OD is still OP because Alternativa haven't get sufficient amount of "Nerf Hornet OD!" responses from the community. It will get nerfed only if more than 50% of tankers wanted it to get powercrept. Did we have more than 50% of players wanted such thing yet? And even if dev agrees to nerf the OD, they will face a sticky situation because they have to consider: "Can majority of Hornets accept the loss?" or even "Would tankers who quitted the game because of OD's OP-ness would return and play again?". 

I can recall that when Uranium got nerfed, a dude decided to quit the game because of something like "How am I going to perform well in battles if Uranium got nerfed?".

Remember when Duplet back then was so OP when it came out? It can deal quite a lot of damage even when Legends slaps their 50% Wolf module on their tanks. Now, dev had nerfed it by increased the pellet scatter angle. It is still useful but such frenzy has died out.

Edited August 4, 2020 by FrozenRailgun

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, FrozenRailgun said:

Reason why Hornet OD is still OP because Alternativa haven't get sufficient amount of "Nerf Hornet OD!" responses from the community. It will get nerfed only if more than 50% of tankers wanted it to get powercrept. Did we have more than 50% of players wanted such thing yet? And even if dev agrees to nerf the OD, they will face a sticky situation because they have to consider: "Can majority of Hornets accept the loss?" or even "Would tankers who quitted the game because of OD's OP-ness would return and play again?". 

Since it's the most popular hull in the game - good luck with that.

Irrelevant.  TO has never been worried about that in the past.  Why should they worry about that now.

IF an item in the game is OP (it is) then TO needs to balance it regardless of what the players using it say.  Otherwise, in time, the game will become hornet-Online as everyone switches to THE OP item in order to "keep up with the Joneses", and the rest quit in frustration.

[alkyng 3,080]

7 hours ago, ghost-guns said:

 

actually best days in tanki were in

2010-2012, then

2013-2014

and from 2017+ they destroy the game totally with incredible updates.

maybe I love tanki in the past not becuase that I didn't love the new updates, but because the kind of players, in past there was a good clans and awesome videos and a lot,

now we just play with a kids in the game, that didn't know ever how to turn the turret or chating in chat

[brainhoo 735]

Servers down again like the 4 or 5th time in a month?

http://

http://

 

The announced maintenance was supposed to be 5 August 00:00 AM to 04:00 AM UTC. It is already 06:00AM UTC so it is considered downtime.

Edited August 5, 2020 by brainhoo

[BENGAL_TIGER 2]

How long will it take?

 

Edited August 5, 2020 by BENGAL_TIGER

[Mr.Threatz 61]

@ghost-guns dont worry about them deleting your account,simply DO NOT LOG back in...easy fix to your problem.

[Iamhereforfun 240]

10 hours ago, XLG1 said:

HTML5 - NO DAMAGE BUG AFTER FEW MATCHES. FIX IT. NOW.

Hahaaaaa! Do you really think they know how to fix it? These guys call themselves "developers" but they are nothing but a bunch of amateurs who dabble with programming in an attempt to write some code that works! Oh, yeah like they fixed the famous "an error has occurred"! Or if you use shaft and you move just the turret in sniping move and not the tank you get kicked out for inactivity!  Tell me what programmed this and how come it is not fixed since they introduced HTML5?

Edited August 5, 2020 by Spy
Kindly refrain from using inappropriate language.

[Mr.Phoenix 12]

I remember quitting the game just before I went to high school in 2015. The game was so good back then. Good players and game play was all the same. But now, updates every 2nd day that wreck the game play and make this once simple breakthrough flash game, to a HTML 5 mess and a buy to win game. Now the developers expect us to forgive them of this random bug. Bet they'll give us another free reward. I have no idea why I started to play this game again. RIP Tanki Online

 

Edited August 5, 2020 by Spy
Kindly refrain from using inappropriate language.

[Spy 14,725]

4 minutes ago, tomo385 said:

 

Post merged.

[XLG1 29]

6 hours ago, Iamhereforfun said:

Hahaaaaa! Do you really think they know how to fix it? These guys call themselves "developers" but they are nothing but a bunch of amateurs who dabble with programming in an attempt to write some code that works! Oh, yeah like they fixed the famous "an error has occurred"! Or if you use shaft and you move just the turret in sniping move and not the tank you get kicked out for inactivity!  Tell me what programmed this and how come it is not fixed since they introduced HTML5?

Best decision is to migrate by 31 Dec 2020, or hang in for a bit after that and see how things go. 

I've come not to expect much from these Russian developers. Hard working, yes, but definitely have an agenda.

As a long time player one I have stuck with the game, but Old Tanki was once in a lifetime.

Money talks, though and as you can see with Tanki X, everything they do is for the money.

They are focused on new players which after HTML5 is actually working (if ever), they may start advertising for new players, maybe a revamped / refreshed referral system, because they have ruined the game for other older players hence the massive leaving. Before you'd get like 100k players online, but look now. Most of my friends list are probably gone.

Ideas and Suggestions forum area when most of the ideas there are left in 'Under Consideration'. 

Read the below and others. Deffo better games to play with developers that listen.

 

Edited August 5, 2020 by XLG1
THE DEVELOPERS DONT LISTEN AND DONT FIX THEIR GAME, YOUR EDITS WONT DO ANYTHING AT ALL

[ghost-guns 1,486]

7 hours ago, Mr.Threatz said:

@ghost-guns dont worry about them deleting your account,simply DO NOT LOG back in...easy fix to your problem.

I suppose I could do that to preseve my achievements.

Tanki have asked me for verification and IP address in order to close my account.

Whatever the case I won't be playing again. I had 255,000 crystals and I burnt them all by purchasing grafiti paint and supplies.

[cosmic666 1,055]

10 hours ago, Iamhereforfun said:

This is made on purpose so they will not have to provide compensation to the 5,000 users that are left. It seems that it is stacked up so that only the Russian players will get the compensation because the rest of the world does not play on Russian time. I fail to see the purpose of placing such limitation on compensation other than the fact they hope that not everyone will claim it.  It is the same when they raised the prices of the "augments" to be more than the turret itself!  Also, it is the same reason they have the ridiculous missions and the high cost of changing them.  How else they would force us to pay? Also,In their simple mind, they think that giving us an augment through a container, for a turret we do not have, we will go and buy that turret!  Only idiots think that way and Tanki has proven many time over that is run by people worse than idiots. As a matter of fact, a lot of Tanki decision makers would qualify instantly for the position of the Village in many parts of the world.

Agree with what you said apart from the bit. Unfortunately the devs are not idiots and no exactly what they are doing,the idiots are the players (myself included to an extent) for continuing to log into TO and supporting them in every single TERRIBLE update they introduce by playing the game. I have shelved 3 very good accounts(all strong) because i refuse to earn cry or spend cash on such a unbalanced game were MURDER HORNETS rule the roost in almost every battle you go in against them. Add the shocking MM to the mix, and for the low to mid ranks right up to field marshal the balance of the game is a joke. I play on 1 of my mains because i still have some premium left on it, and because it is well over the legend rank this ridiculous extra xp boost does not affect me the way it affects the lower ranks. I am fortunate that this account is maxed out and has more than enough supplies to sustain me for quite awhile, if this was not the case i doubt very much if i would play this account. It is up to every individual player to make there own mind up if they should continue to plough effort, time, and at times cash into a very broken, unpredictable, and VERY UNBALANCED game. We all no which players are being favoured by the devs, and if those assumptions by the majority of players are incorrect, then the devs owe us a explanation as to why HORNET is so far ahead of the rest of the hulls,and why they have not even made a cursory effort in addressing the obvious OP nature of this particular hull that dominates battles to such an extent that players just give up and leave battles after the first couple of minutes. I very rarely leave battles (i refuse to be beat) but i have done so on quite a few occasions because trying to go up against one mostly two of these MURDER HORNETS is nigh on impossible, especially if they are paired with MAGNUM ((THE ULTIMATE MURDER HORNET.)) We all have choices, i made mine,log in do missions,log out,minimum effort, and leave the MURDER HORNETS to get on with it. 

Edited August 5, 2020 by GG_reg
Please avoid the use of inappropriate language.

[Viking4s 10,791]

9 hours ago, Iamhereforfun said:

[...] I play the game just for fun and when they kill flash, I am gone along with 7 other friends because HTML5 IS NOT fun to play.  

?  Is Tanki not the same on Flash and HTML5? They removed the hulls or the turret? They replaced supplies with Pokemon? Am i playing on the wrong HTML5 tanki online?
Adobe killed Flash, not Tanki. 

To improve TO on HTML5 post here your ideas: What would make the HTML5 version awesome FOR YOU?

Edited August 5, 2020 by Viking4s

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

19 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Since it's the most popular hull in the game - good luck with that.

IF an item in the game is OP (it is) then TO needs to balance it regardless of what the players using it say.  Otherwise, in time, the game will become Hornet-Online as everyone switches to THE OP item in order to "keep up with the Joneses", and the rest quit in frustration.

I understand that game balance is crucial but we already have two issues to face: losing players vs game balance. I did notice that game imbalance is one of the reason why tankers quits but how will we handle the other side???

2 hours ago, ghost-guns said:

Whatever the case I won't be playing again. I had 255,000 crystals and I burnt them all by purchasing grafiti paint and supplies.

Noooooooooooooo............ ;( I mean I haven't play too much now but I'd rather keep my accounts (even my F2P WO4 counterpart).

[fghjkl54 1,520]

4 hours ago, EthnoPhylaX said:

 

i advice you to put it in bug and glitchs report topic

[Iamhereforfun 240]

3 hours ago, cosmic666 said:

Agree with what you said apart from the bit. Unfortunately the devs are not idiots and no exactly what they are doing,the idiots are the players (myself included to an extent) for continuing to log into TO and supporting them in every single TERRIBLE update they introduce by playing the game. I have shelved 3 very good accounts(all strong) because i refuse to earn cry or spend cash on such a unbalanced game were MURDER HORNETS rule the roost in almost every battle you go in against them. Add the shocking MM to the mix, and for the low to mid ranks right up to field marshal the balance of the game is a joke. I play on 1 of my mains because i still have some premium left on it, and because it is well over the legend rank this ridiculous extra xp boost does not affect me the way it affects the lower ranks. I am fortunate that this account is maxed out and has more than enough supplies to sustain me for quite awhile, if this was not the case i doubt very much if i would play this account. It is up to every individual player to make there own mind up if they should continue to plough effort, time, and at times cash into a very broken, unpredictable, and VERY UNBALANCED game. We all no which players are being favoured by the devs, and if those assumptions by the majority of players are incorrect, then the devs owe us a explanation as to why HORNET is so far ahead of the rest of the hulls,and why they have not even made a cursory effort in addressing the obvious OP nature of this particular hull that dominates battles to such an extent that players just give up and leave battles after the first couple of minutes. I very rarely leave battles (i refuse to be beat) but i have done so on quite a few occasions because trying to go up against one mostly two of these MURDER HORNETS is nigh on impossible, especially if they are paired with MAGNUM ((THE ULTIMATE MURDER HORNET.)) We all have choices, i made mine,log in do missions,log out,minimum effort, and leave the MURDER HORNETS to get on with it. 

I do the same thing as you do: do some missions, earn a few crystals and try to have some fun.  I have no problem whatsoever with the game owners making money. I live in America and I believe in the capitalist system: make as much money as you can, but in an honest way. Tanki owners are dishonest because you do not get what you paid for. You by a twins turret that does not have self damage and then suddenly if you want that feature, you have to buy an "augment"  worse yet all of a sudden the "augment" will be available only through containers. Because of the player backlash, they made them available again but now they cost 10 more! Actually the cost more that the turret itself! That is dishonest.  They bring online this atrocity they call Matchmaking which is nothing but!   Worse yet they refuse to fix it so at least the game will be level as far as the number of players and the rank spread. It is beyond idiotic to have colonels paying against legends! There is no point other than to force you to become a buyer of kits so you can even stand a chance against the legends! That is dishonest no matter how you slice it and dice it. All the changes they made are with the hopes that people would be dumb enough to fall for it and buy the stuff they are pushing.  Now they are pushing the OP hornet, next they will Op something else.  I remember when Firebird and Isida were OP, then they nerf them because everyone got them and the game was saturated and it was time to push something else.  The tanki owners have a strategy but it is not working and that's why I say they are dumb. I remember once upon a time that we had so many choices of battles to chose from because there were over 50,000 players on at the same time and during holidays I had seen well over 70,000! Now, I see 10,000-15,000 topping at 25,000 to 30,000 on certain holidays!  So, if they cannot see that they have lost so many players and they keep losing when they make these changes that no one wants, I can say with certainty, they are dumb!  

I understand the need to move on from Flash and I have no problem with that.  However, what they have developed in HTML5 is not even close to what the Flash version is.  HTML5 , they tell us, has much more flexibility, yet the games looks very "cartooney" and the camera behavior is so unstable and jittery that makes a lot of people dizzy and not wanting to play tha game.  Yet, they have done nothing to correct that.  I could go on and on, but what's the point? The people who need to listen, do not and will not. So when Flash goes, I am gone along with a lot of my friends who share the same views with me. 

[cosmic666 1,055]

13 minutes ago, Iamhereforfun said:

I do the same thing as you do: do some missions, earn a few crystals and try to have some fun.  I have no problem whatsoever with the game owners making money. I live in America and I believe in the capitalist system: make as much money as you can, but in an honest way. Tanki owners are dishonest because you do not get what you paid for. You by a twins turret that does not have self damage and then suddenly if you want that feature, you have to buy an "augment"  worse yet all of a sudden the "augment" will be available only through containers. Because of the player backlash, they made them available again but now they cost 10 more! Actually the cost more that the turret itself! That is dishonest.  They bring online this atrocity they call Matchmaking which is nothing but!   Worse yet they refuse to fix it so at least the game will be level as far as the number of players and the rank spread. It is beyond idiotic to have colonels paying against legends! There is no point other than to force you to become a buyer of kits so you can even stand a chance against the legends! That is dishonest no matter how you slice it and dice it. All the changes they made are with the hopes that people would be dumb enough to fall for it and buy the stuff they are pushing.  Now they are pushing the OP hornet, next they will Op something else.  I remember when Firebird and Isida were OP, then they nerf them because everyone got them and the game was saturated and it was time to push something else.  The tanki owners have a strategy but it is not working and that's why I say they are dumb. I remember once upon a time that we had so many choices of battles to chose from because there were over 50,000 players on at the same time and during holidays I had seen well over 70,000! Now, I see 10,000-15,000 topping at 25,000 to 30,000 on certain holidays!  So, if they cannot see that they have lost so many players and they keep losing when they make these changes that no one wants, I can say with certainty, they are dumb!  

I understand the need to move on from Flash and I have no problem with that.  However, what they have developed in HTML5 is not even close to what the Flash version is.  HTML5 , they tell us, has much more flexibility, yet the games looks very "cartooney" and the camera behavior is so unstable and jittery that makes a lot of people dizzy and not wanting to play tha game.  Yet, they have done nothing to correct that.  I could go on and on, but what's the point? The people who need to listen, do not and will not. So when Flash goes, I am gone along with a lot of my friends who share the same views with me. 

here here.

[Spy 14,725]

12 hours ago, Iamhereforfun said:

 

 

6 hours ago, XLG1 said:

 

 

4 hours ago, cosmic666 said:

 

Posts moved.

If you have a complaint about the game, write it here. Please do not do it in the 'Bugs and Glitches Reports' topic.

[Iamhereforfun 240]

3 hours ago, Viking4s said:

?  Is Tanki not the same on Flash and HTML5? They removed the hulls or the turret? They replaced supplies with Pokemon? Am i playing on the wrong HTML5 tanki online?
Adobe killed Flash, not Tanki. 

To improve TO on HTML5 post here your ideas: What would make the HTML5 version awesome FOR YOU?

Might as well they have replaced them with Pokemon! Yeah There many posts there with ideas that would not even see the light of the day as usual with Tanki.  The HTML version of Tanki you are playing is just a bastardized version of the Flash. The graphics, the camera movement and the overall feel of the game is not the same. Maybe to you it is, but them again as they say in my village: "simple things for simple minds"! I guess you have not been paying attention what the majority of the players are gripping about here or you just refuse to accept it. In either case, one thing hols steady: Tanki is losing players and wait to see what it would happen once Flash goes away.  I have no problem with switching to a newer more flexible platform.  I have been an IT professional for over 30 years and I understand the complexities of implementing something new.  What I do not understand, i the insistence that this new HTML version of Tanki is something better that the Flash version.  It seems to me that it was rushed to production by a bunch of amateurs that do not even know half of the capabilities of HTML5. And by the way, just because Adobe killed Flash it does not mean that everyone has to rush to implement half-assed solutions!  The programming language Cobol (that I was using before the Tanki "developers" were born) has been dead for a long time, yet major banking and financing application are still running on it! But then again, I am talking about concepts you have no idea of! I was supporting a Novell network long after Novell stopped making major improvements on the networking OS, yet I was running a 1 billion dollar company on it!  Yes, eventually we had to switch, but I did not rush to implement half-assed solutions that would drag the company to an abyss like Tanki is doing.  

So go back and play HTML 5 and let the rest of us complain about things you have no concept of.

[Viking4s 10,791]

2 hours ago, Iamhereforfun said:

Might as well they have replaced them with Pokemon! Yeah There many posts there with ideas that would not even see the light of the day as usual with Tanki.  The HTML version of Tanki you are playing is just a bastardized version of the Flash. The graphics, the camera movement and the overall feel of the game is not the same. Maybe to you it is, but them again as they say in my village: "simple things for simple minds"! I guess you have not been paying attention what the majority of the players are gripping about here or you just refuse to accept it. In either case, one thing hols steady: Tanki is losing players and wait to see what it would happen once Flash goes away.  I have no problem with switching to a newer more flexible platform.  [...]

So go back and play HTML 5 and let the rest of us complain about things you have no concept of.

Flash gameplay is closer to flash now. Saying it is Half solution and a bastardisation is way exaggerated IMO.

Saying that I won't be surprised if they took the opportunity to change/force some of the parameter of the gameplay because they know we have to accept it. The camera angle were different but it was improved lately, no sickness motion anymore for me at least, and some others. The issue was reported many time in the What would make the HTML5 version awesome FOR YOU? - Your post looks like more for that topic as it is no bug nor glitch related. 

I think you need to get used to it, and play a bit more (while complaining in parallel of course) before completely rejecting it, but if it is motion sickness related, you can't do much. There are more perks on HTML5, which gives an edge for player playing on it, so you are missing out a lot.
Your post was not in the complaint section btw.

 

3 hours ago, Iamhereforfun said:

[...]

Tanki owners are dishonest because you do not get what you paid for. You by a twins turret that does not have self damage and then suddenly if you want that feature, you have to buy an "augment"  worse yet all of a sudden the "augment" will be available only through containers.

[...]

Worse yet they refuse to fix it so at least the game will be level as far as the number of players and the rank spread. It is beyond idiotic to have colonels paying against legends!

[...]

I understand the need to move on from Flash and I have no problem with that.  However, what they have developed in HTML5 is not even close to what the Flash version is.  HTML5 , they tell us, has much more flexibility, yet the games looks very "cartooney" and the camera behavior is so unstable and jittery that makes a lot of people dizzy and not wanting to play tha game.  Yet, they have done nothing to correct that.

[...]

The point is right they do rebalance and tweak feature that you thought was permanent, however the example you choose is wrong and misleading. The time between twins getting splash-damage and the augment moved to the containers is separated by 24 months and you were able to buy it with crystals. So plenty of time to get it before it moved to containers, also splash damage addition to twin was an improvement to the game play, I don't see that many twins shooting right in my face anymore.

Ranks wide spread range is on purpose, maybe too wide for what they wanted, especially at USA time when the rest of the world is sleeping and the number of players online is at its lowest of the day. But it is a team game, so if you are the weakest in your team they would be strong players too, and this principle applies for both team. It is not you versus the rest of the world.

Untrue, they did improved the camera as requested by players, yes it did made a lot of people dizzy, including me, but they improved it and it is definitely fine for me now. If not for you, then it sure need further improvement, please let the developers know by posting there about it: What would make the HTML5 version awesome FOR YOU?

Edited August 5, 2020 by Viking4s

[XLG1 29]

5 hours ago, Spy said:

 

 

Posts moved.

If you have a complaint about the game, write it here. Please do not do it in the 'Bugs and Glitches Reports' topic.

Sure, not like the developers care anyway.

[alkyng 3,080]

Real questions needs to answer

hi, im in Major-General rank, and I have some questions,

first - how can I get Mk7 or Mk7+ Kits at my rank with crystals, when they're available with tankoins from Colonel or before

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I want to buy it to be able to compete with other players in MM

also Augment for hulls is really important thing IMO, how I can get like Fire-immunity with crystals, even if they were at million, because Fire-Immunity essential and make changes to the game a lot.

also guys how can I be moderate in using of supplies, when buyers use it in every time and for the most insignificant reason!

also how can I get a strong drones like Booster, because it's too powerful and I love it, but it will consume a lot of my supplies for one time, Isn't it better to save it to use it one by one instead of use three of them by once

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also I have a lot of crystals and I don't know how I spend it, because I didn't want Mk6 kits with crystals and Drones consume a lot of supplies, and I can increase it till 600K+ if there are need

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please give me advises and tips what I should to do with these important things in my ranks. I want administrators especially to answer my questioned or a pro decent player have experience.

 

"actually I really really didn't love complaint topics, but really really these questions are logical"

Edited August 7, 2020 by asem.harbi

[Spy 14,725]

3 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

 

Topic merged.