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[cosmic666 1,055]

10 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

I totally agree, having reached higher ranks now and starting to face EMP Gauss more often I can see this alteration is destroying balance, especially in Siege Mode. Unfortunately since the devs originally sold this item for money however, it can not be removed. Instead, it must be nerfed as a matter of urgency.

Especially in Siege mode/ASL defence, this alteration TOTALLY ruins balance and fun in the higher ranks. If you face an enemy EMP Gauss, your team has practically no chance, with all of your regularly being reduced to no supplies. If you face two of them in the same team... just leave the game. And the existence of the hull EMP immunity is NOT a counter - as first of all many players will not have this augment (which can only be bought for Tankoins) - and second of all, even if you do have it - many players in your team probably won't. And you can't fight 1v6... The only true counter to EMP Gauss in Siege to use EMP Gauss yourself, which is ridiculous and shows how bad a balance problem we have.

A good nerf to the Augment would be to only disable supplies on the target, and not any other tanks in the Splash damage radius. This would in some ways be a buff as the EMP Gauss user could now fire the secondary mode at close range without fear of losing their own supplies, but it would fix the massive imbalance in Siege mode (and in general). Enough time has now passed that buyers have had time to dominate with EMP Gauss, to justify the cost, and now would be a good time to address the issue - with F2P players also being able to access the alt through Ultra container missions. 

Having paid-for alterations was a bad idea in the first place - as I said in the topic when the first (Rubberized Rounds) was announced . One of the main reasons for that is the fact that if the alteration is overpowered it will be very difficult to then justify a nerf, since people have paid for it - and then something overpowered will have to be left in the game, destroying gameplay. This is a lose - lose situation: Tanki loses buyers' trust if they nerf it, but they also lose other players - and potential income - from having a horrificly imbalanced game if do nothing. This is precisely the situation that has arisen with EMP Gauss.

I really hope that Tanki won't choose to implement paid-for items in the same way in the future, to avoid such issues, and that a fix for EMP Gauss will come soon. As more and more players get the Augment (since it is now available from Ultra containers) Siege mode will slowly become unplayable at Legend rank, if nothing is done.

Ah the voice of reason. I agree with just about everything you said apart from just nerfing the splash damage. Make it so it can only disable 1 supply and if you have no supplies activated then it deals 1/3 more damage.

Must admit it's one of my must destroy tanks along with all FLYING CHEATS. Next in line is good ol shaft, just can't kill them quick enough in battle.

Next up is magnum, followed by any and all hornet players (never gonna stop going after them, ever) 

The rest i just kill if i come across them, are if they are unlucky enough to come across me, results the same, i win. cause i'm mint.

I wonder if i am the most disliked player who posts in the forum. Guess someone has to be.

Like me are hate me i post nothing but facts and do not suffer fools at all.

You all have a great day now.

[cosmic666 1,055]

5 hours ago, Venerable said:

Yes, they have to be! 

 

Whatever may be the case, I don't think that Hopper is a flying cheat. But Vulcan + Incendiary Band with Any hull + Heat Immunity is a legal cheat for sure. 

Indeed one might. But then, I don't really see any other way of replying to you without being blatantly disrespectful. If I post anything with a mellow or overly polite tone, you'd pounce on me at once... xD

If I start accepting everything you say without comment/protest, I'm really going nowhere. I will defend my opinion if I am convinced that it's right.

I'm afraid I can't do anything otherwise. I might seem very rude then, because there are times when I vehemently disagree...

I never treated you as a kid, sir, and that further implies that I be as respectful as possible while replying. 

Alright.

You do state facts, almost all the time. But then it seems as if you conveniently cherry-pick the ones you want. You ignore other facts, or downplay the ones that you think are unimportant. 

Well, I will defend my opinions as long as they're right and appropriate for the given time/place. Even if it means fighting fire with fire.

I agree. That doesn't mean I ignore other facts as I deem convenient. 

 

Oh no, no. I wouldn't dream of putting you on ignore. 

You do state facts, and your views are quite logical most of the time (according to me). I'll bear with you. And hopefully stop my annoying sermons too, if you'd call them that.

So i cherry pick do i...........Well how come i would rather see all overdrives, alts the whole lot removed from the game, i have mentioned this on quite a few occasions and would welcome it.

So let's go back say a couple of months shall we. If you saw a player do what the FLYING CHEAT does now i'm quite sure you would call it a hack.

Vulcans set up maybe strong but it has a myriad of other strong combos to compete against it.

The FLYING CHEAT has very little chance of being stopped when it attacks an enemy base, because of all the strong attributes it has combined in a all-in-one overdrive. Coupled with the fact that it is very wayward in it's movements, which make it very hard to keep your line of fire on it, and even when you manage to keep some sustained fire on it, it has a uncanny knack of surviving way longer than it should.

Again these are facts i see every time i come up against one of these misfits.

If you were to bet $100.00 on a 1v1 between a vulcan with all the trimmings attached to it, let's say hunter for it's hull (it's what i use all of the time) against a FLYING CHEAT, to cap 1 flag in a medium sized map, let's say serp, where is your hard earned going to be put. I will even say that the FLYING CHEAT is only a MK5 against my maxed out MK7 (no drones) . We will also say that the FLYING CHEAT player is experienced with this hull, just like i am with vulcan.

I wonder in a real world bet which player you would choose to make the first cap.

Be nice to no what other players think on this scenario.

You have a nice day now, try and come down from your perch you might get dizzy otherwise. 

[Mr.Threatz 61]

lol gonna have to wear some waders for all the tears in this forum before long may need a boat smh

[mixalis98 31]

Can someone explain to me how it’s possible that you have made 2 purchases with your credit card from the shop, your transactions have been completed normally, your money has deducted from your account and you have not received anything you bought!

I have contacted the support, I have given all the details, they have admitted that the problem was theirs but they refuse to give me back my money or at least what I bought!!!

And all this is happening to someone who has been supporting this game since 2011.

I'm really sorry about the time and money I've wasted but I will not stay here. I will claim what I am entitled by all legal means.

[Spy 14,687]

27 minutes ago, mixalis98 said:

 

Hi, I would recommend you to contact the Tech Support again with this form and explain in detail what exactly happened. 

[mixalis98 31]

6 minutes ago, Spy said:

Hi, I would recommend you to contact the Tech Support again with this form and explain in detail what exactly happened. 

Hi, Thanks for your reply.

I did that twice, as I mentioned they admit that it was their problem. They just don't care, it's obvious.

I also contacted my bank but they told me that the transactions were successfully completed. 

I don't have any other option.

[Spy 14,687]

1 minute ago, mixalis98 said:

Hi, Thanks for your reply.

I did that twice, as I mentioned they admit that it was their problem. They just don't care, it's obvious.

I also contacted my bank but they told me that the transactions were successfully completed. 

I don't have any other option.

I wish I could help, but this is a matter only the Tech Support can resolve. 

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

15 hours ago, cosmic666 said:

Ah the voice of reason. I agree with just about everything you said apart from just nerfing the splash damage. Make it so it can only disable 1 supply and if you have no supplies activated then it deals 1/3 more damage.

Must admit it's one of my must destroy tanks along with all FLYING CHEATS.

Hey, thanks. I'm sure pretty much everyone realises the EMP Gauss is overpowered, and if they don't realise that right now they will when more and more of them start appearing in Legend battles as more players get them from Ultra containers.

Regarding your idea that EMP Gauss could remove one supply instead of all supplies - this is interesting however I feel that this would still possibly be a little too powerful as then after a few shots (they can fire much faster than normal Gauss), you could still remove an entire teams' supplies. I feel like it is the ability for one player to have such a devastating effect on an entire team with no cooldown at all that is the problem in Siege/ASL and any situation where you must get close together, if it only affected one player you could get out of line of sight of the Gauss and be sure to be safe. But maybe there is a better way to nerf, any nerf would be welcome but that was my initial thought - something needs to be done in any case.

I'm worried by the fact this Augment has been around without a nerf for a very long time now (and was originally a paid-for item) that the devs intend to do nothing about it. I really enjoy playing Siege and ASL but having went up against this increasingly as I climb the ranks I worry that the fun of these battles is going to be destroyed by facing this horrificly imbalanced stain on the game that is Electromagnetic Salvo in its present form. There is very little that can be done against your entire team being reduced to no supplies regularly, from infinite range with no targeting laser. Incredibly boring and frustrating to play against, when you know from lower ranks how much fun these modes can be when you aren't facing overwhelming imbalance.

Hopper + Crisis (Hopper in general) & Incendiary Brand/Heat immunity also need to be looked at - although the former is relatively new to the game so hopefully a few changes will be made eventually, and the problem with Incendiary Brand/Heat Immunity is the heat immunity augment itself which should never have been introduced to the game. Having hull augments which specifically target one turret (Firebird) is extremely unfair - this Augment should be nerfed to 50 or 60% heat protection and be re-named "Heavy Heat Resistence" with the lesser Augment becoming "Lesser Heat resitance" and oulia - the augments are still very powerful, but Incendiary brand is fixed and Firebird is no longer forced to get the Incendiary mix augment to be useful. What I hope they don't do (and would be a very Alternativa style thing to do given previous changes) is to completely destroy Incendiary Brand (which used to be an interesting Augment), while leaving the ridiculously OP heat immunity which caused the problem in the first place untouched. And I say that as someone who has heat immunity on their main account - it is bad for the game - never should have been here and it needs to be changed.

Edited November 19, 2020 by DestrotankAI9

[Karot 251]

@Spy will the testing update become a thing because ngl i can’t play anymore.

10v10 sucks

armor sucks

buyers rules once again 

Edited November 19, 2020 by Divine.Judgement

[Spy 14,687]

19 minutes ago, Divine.Judgement said:

 

It's very unlikely to see another experiment. But, we may see some changes coming to MM due to the recent experiment. 

[Bydo 20,119]

not sure what is happening with my system .. first heavy lag on Monday then again today

now I'm getting a 504 time out gateway , trying to send a message and its not working now.. it was fine yesterday..

so if the mod and CM gets this message you might end up with 5 of them.. sorry system issues

[Spy 14,687]

2 minutes ago, Bydo said:

 

The forum is slow at these hours.

[ReptilianTroll 236]

Could you remove overdrives, augments, and drones?  

[vecky 93]

2 hours ago, ReptilianTroll said:

Could you remove overdrives, augments, and drones?  

And EMP augment from Gauss. 

Especially Hunter overdrive is useless after hoppers overdrive.

Almost every time when I start hunter overdrive some other hunter

stop mine, same thing with hopper. I gotta feeling that he play game with us

like cat with mouse, he get overdrive fully active in the same second he

started and mine hunter must wait 2 or 3 second.

And he can wait until I started my overdrive and BOOM he started his

and everything goes to Hollywood.

Its a nightmare fighting against hopper.

He is like Airplane, but he is not.

He is like a boat or ship but he is not,

He is like a freeze, but he is not.

He is like a firebird but he is not.

He is like a hunter (with stunt) but he is not.

But What he is?

He is a NEO from movies MATRIX and he can do what ever they want

and why because of a money.

Every fairplay rules was gone.

Every hackers cheat was alive in his body and he live again like a Dracula when he need

gotta wings....

Edited November 19, 2020 by vecky

[vecky 93]

I don't know if everybody else have a same feeling but when ever management of tankionline do same

bad change of rules or exception of standard rules because of a some new and interesting thing

they give us some tablets of painkiller.

Sometimes I have a feeling like we all in a World War II front line and gotta pain from a bullet or a cannon shot

and they give us a pain killer in a form of some Juggernaut festivities or some other Mambo Jumbo mess to

forgot on a pain in a last change.

OK OK I will stop now.

PS Everything is OK and everything working so fine I can not imagine something better then this.

[Spy 14,687]

2 hours ago, ReptilianTroll said:

 

 

12 minutes ago, vecky said:

 

 

3 minutes ago, vecky said:

 

Posts moved.

Please use this topic to write your complaints about the game.

[cosmic666 1,055]

Complaints about TO. The list is endless, and will remain so as long as there are buyers willing to pay cash for OP equipment, which the devs knowingly bring into the game to generate as much cash as they can.

TO has never really been balanced - HORNETS OVERDRIVE, FLYING CHEAT, GAUSS EMP. Will it ever end, i doubt it. 

They say they listen to player feedback, be nice to no what exactly they have acted on regarding player feedback.

I remember when hammer first came out without any protection from it for quite awhile....cash related.

I also remember when they brought out the alt so you didn't self damage for twins.....cash related again.

Like i said the list is endless, the devs have no intentions to balance TO out.

TO is broken and will remain so, those with the funds will do well, those without are just cannon fodder and will never do well in the majority of battles they go into. 

[alkyng 3,080]

why why why buyers can get result better than me https://prnt.sc/vmnugi

I get way more better score than him, I should take prize better than him not the opposite (I mean second place in my team)

It's supposed for every game that buyers just can get a better equipment. but not even in the result

What the point of playing if even I couldn't get a result better than them?

It's a shame to be like this

I think at least if you want to give them better rewards, give them after the game in somewhere, not in the game result!

Not jealous, for sure, the opposite. I wish for him the good luck. but I talk about the game state.

I just noticed that after I post my good achievement in the topic

Edited November 20, 2020 by asem.harbi

[Spy 14,687]

26 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

I get way more better score than him, I should take prize better than him not the opposite (I mean second place in my team)

Technically you received more than 1,000 crystals than the guy below you, but he got premium. 

[alkyng 3,080]

2 minutes ago, Spy said:

Technically you received more than 1,000 crystals than the guy below you, but he got premium. 

naah my post was last post in that page

Yes, true it supposed to be

[Akame 4,578]

Okay, here goes; I have tried reaching out to some people, but either this isn't going to the right people, so I'm having to inform this issue here.

This issue doesn't matter to me since I have all augments etc.

But Ultra containers

 

Now, they still don't have Hopper augments (apart from AP immunity); and they have not had hornet augments for over several months! Is Tanki innately blind? Or trying to scam players???

Spoiler

Taken from pool on a low account I don't play/use:

Now can Tanki fix this, so regular players can obtain these hornet augments from ultra containers, AND ALSO INCLUDE HOPPER AUGMENTS, you say it in the news post, but not include it??? Blind???? Regular containers do have hornet augments, but whats the point of ultra scamcontainers if they don't include what it says it should??

If this is an intended thing to leave hornet augments out of ultra containers, at least have the guts to put a disclaimer on it. The hornet issue has been there for several months, the hopper one for around 2 months. Fix up the issue, stop scamming players whether unintentionally or intentionally, I HAVE NOTICED THIS and have tried to let people know. Now imagine a regular non spender grinds to get a few ultra containers, hoping to get a hopper augment or hornet augment thats not AP immunity, many of them don't even know they can't get it.

I don't think the visual pool is glitched, since I had to get regular containers to complete my augment set for hornet long ago (since epic rarity on ultra would always give 100k crys, simply because it has no hornet augments which are in the epic rarity).

Please respond, carefully, and inform the playerbase of this error made, because I now have taken my step to let others know about this issue on this forum.

They all deserve an explanation, and compensation for such a heinous mistake.

[Dridrien 157]

3 hours ago, asem.harbi said:

pourquoi pourquoi les acheteurs peuvent obtenir un résultat meilleur que moi  https://prnt.sc/vmnugi

J'obtiens un meilleur score que lui, je devrais prendre le prix mieux que lui pas l'inverse (je veux dire la deuxième place dans mon équipe)

Il est supposé pour chaque jeu que les acheteurs peuvent simplement obtenir un meilleur équipement. mais même pas dans le résultat

Quel est l'intérêt de jouer si même je ne pouvais pas obtenir un résultat meilleur qu'eux?

C'est dommage d'être comme ça

Je pense qu'au moins si vous voulez leur donner de meilleures récompenses, donnez-les après le match quelque part, pas dans le résultat du jeu!

Pas jaloux, bien sûr, le contraire. Je lui souhaite bonne chance. mais je parle de l'état du jeu.

Je viens de remarquer qu'après avoir publié ma bonne réussite dans le sujet

that doesn't shock me.  they pay to have rewards.  and it is also an advertisement.  when players see that he earns more it makes them want to do the same and therefore spend money.

[alkyng 3,080]

1 hour ago, Dridrien said:

that doesn't shock me.  they pay to have rewards.  and it is also an advertisement.  when players see that he earns more it makes them want to do the same and therefore spend money.

We all know that

EDIT: I write that at a time I wasn't have energy to write..

But I want to clear my point to you, I mean buyers when they pay, they get a strong equipment, incredibly drones + Augments... Ok! but why they even get a better result than me?!! I won in that game! so why they get rewards better than me!!, nothing make a one who have mind to play in a game that automatically manipulate in results

I neglected here the drones that make him gathering more score I neglected everything, I just won the game with a good score and result.

Edited November 20, 2020 by asem.harbi

[TESL4 426]

Why everything in the garage autoscrolls when you click on something? (https://streamable.com/xlro0p) It is mildly infuriating when trying to browse stuff. 

(includes not only paint menu, but turrets and hulls, challenges etc.). And yeah the bug where the game doesnt change your equipment still exist.

Otherwise loving HTML5 :)

Edited November 20, 2020 by TESL4

[Dridrien 157]

2 hours ago, asem.harbi said:

Nous savons tous que

EDIT: J'écris qu'à un moment je n'avais pas l'énergie pour écrire.

Mais je veux clarifier mon point de vue, je veux dire les acheteurs quand ils paient, ils reçoivent un équipement solide, incroyablement drones + Augments ... Ok! mais pourquoi ils obtiennent même un meilleur résultat que moi? !! J'ai gagné dans ce match! alors pourquoi ils obtiennent des récompenses mieux que moi !!, rien ne fait quelqu'un qui a l'esprit de jouer dans un jeu qui manipule automatiquement les résultats

J'ai négligé ici les drones qui lui permettent de récolter plus de points, j'ai tout négligé, je viens de gagner le match avec un bon score et un bon résultat.

they have better rewards than you for what they pay.  when you pay the rewards are doubled.  If you had paid you would have had 6 stars and 4000 crystal. I don't see where the problem is.  it's the same in all games of this genre