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[GeeVuh 1,647]

 

 

Many of you legitimate or non-buying players must have felt the small feeling you get when you are in a battle, when you are getting completely destroyed by the buyers in Tanki, yes there always were buyers, but they were not this painful. If you have a good gun or if you have plenty of skill or if you are a buyer yourself, then maybe you might have not felt it, but yes, many of us have felt it. The fact is, the Tanki Devs, have added the ability to buy KITS for money, yes many of you might have seen the new shop. This makes the buyers come totally into power. AND they have the 1500 Supply Piece Kit for a very little amount, this makes them totally invincible in battles. Nowadays you can't join the side with the highest ranking players, because buyers have the ability to buy kits from a very small rank. So sometimes you join a battle, and find out that the enemy side is swarming with Sergeant-Majors with Matrix Kit or Harvester or Siberian or whatever. Before, the buyers could only buy crystals and had to wait for the proper rank to buy kits, so they were very tolerable and didn't affect the game's fun factor. But NOW they are buying left and right and slaughtering us left and right with their brand new, money bought, Thunder M1s,M2s.M3s. It won't matter if you are getting slaughtered by tankers above you rank or of the same rank, you can at least feel less bitter about it, but when a Sergeant-Major comes out of nowhere and slaughters you, you can't help feeling bad. AND they have removed MOST of the kits from the in game garage and put them for on sale for money. Tanki must be getting a lot of money cause there are some players who have bought over 4500 gold boxes, the former 3zb was one of them, but now he has changed his nickname and you get a corporal instead of a Generalissimo. Yes, I'm pretty sure every one of us could buy, but the question is, how many tankers will be willing to spend money on a game? The funny thing is, you don't have to be on the losing side to taste bitter defeat, even if you are in the winning side it is very difficult to get to the first four positions in a battle. That is because buyers are dominating the battle and you have a lousy 163 exp while the buyers are hitting 500, in a 15 minute battle. Buyers are extremely dangerous (let's imagine you are a bug, if you bite them, they will turn around and squash you!). The only way to stay safe from them is to buy your self or drug like crazy. Buyers are also pros at pressing the 1,2,3,4,5 and occasionally the 6 buttons on their keyboard. I have gone long enough rattling on about the nasty buyers and let's get to the point. PLEASE STOP giving power to the buyers devs, if you plan to give more just give some to us legit and non-buying players, like a daily gift  :D . So I have come to the end of my article.....soo peace out  :) .

 

NO OFFENSE INTENDED TO THE BUYERS HERE :D .

 

And also this article was to be funny and not exactly serious, but please.... could you devs just give us legit players a daily gift at least? :) :) :)

I've actually hit 809 points in a Esplanade TDM on my WO1 alt... I was only using Firebird/Wasp M1. The other team, though, had 2 Siberians, 3 Matrix-es, and one Corsair... We lost a very tight battle because the second place guy on my team did not know how to turn his turret and was a Shaft-Titan M0. 

 

This proves that it doesn't really matter whether or not the other team is buying or not, as long as you've actually got skilz.

[wolverine848 13,097]

I've actually hit 809 points in a Esplanade TDM on my WO1 alt... I was only using Firebird/Wasp M1. The other team, though, had 2 Siberians, 3 Matrix-es, and one Corsair... We lost a very tight battle because the second place guy on my team did not know how to turn his turret and was a Shaft-Titan M0. 

 

This proves that it doesn't really matter whether or not the other team is buying or not, as long as you've actually got skilz.

Skills certainly help you get a good/better score.

 

But I'm not sure how what you've told us above proves the other team were "buyers".

You can save up (short term pain) for kits (long term gain) without buying crystals.

 

I've bought one M2 kit and two M3 kits. All without buying crystals. I did not know enough in my early ranks to save for a kit. if I'd known better I would have.

[GeeVuh 1,647]

Skills certainly help you get a good/better score.

 

But I'm not sure how what you've told us above proves the other team were "buyers".

You can save up (short term pain) for kits (long term gain) without buying crystals.

 

I've bought one M2 kit and two M3 kits. All without buying crystals. I did not know enough in my early ranks to save for a kit. if I'd known better I would have.

About 4 of them had Premium, which definitely helps my example, even though they could've accessed it through missions. However, I think that the chances of ALL of them being non-buyers is extremely unlikely.

[featwasath 267]

I started playing Tanki 1 year ago. Then the game had about 90k players online & this was a good game. But Tanki failed to keep that good things. Tanki failed to reduce server lag. Every single game update increased the lag. I remember sometimes I had stucked for 5 minutes. Tanki introduced Paint/ Module update & it made old players feel useless about their fully upgraded paints. They were forced to buy new modules, but it was hard as new modules' cose was higher (Purchase cost & MU cost) After all, Tanki introcued their new update, Global Game Balance Update. It ruined the whole game. It made Isida & Rail lose their uniqueness. Rail became an 'Advanced Smoky' so many Rail & Isida players decided to give up the game. Now you can see about 50k players online in maximum. Tanki has lost about half of Tankers withing last few months. But I don't think it's too late for a "Roll-Back". Please roll-back the game balance update & try to fix the server lag, I'm sure players will return to Tanki  :) 

[Lewis.Hamilton 1,110]

Seriously? Everyone thinks the past was better when it actually wasn't! Moon Silence hackers? Druggers? (I mean, the real 2-3-4 spammers!) Do you not remember any of that?

Yup but everyone was getting drugs daily and it was not a problem... also, do u rem the random gold box drop? It was alot more fun for hunting it.. and how about the eSports? Very good organisation tho, not like now... Also, the old CP mode... it was very good while the teams are now loosing their points... and for the hackers: THEY ARE STILL HERE! we cant run of them... and it was better when the chat was spammed with "mod gold plz" instead of "Hey bro, can you drop me a gold plz?" Now my insta is full of kids' spam for dropping them some golds for Railgun M1 and so on... Rip Tanki 2009-2014. #ReturnTanki2o12 fak tanki 2015-2016

[Maf 32,314]

 

Topic merged

 

Thanks for the feedback, but please keep in mind that restoring Tanki Online to a previous update is physically impossible for technical reasons.

[GeeVuh 1,647]

Topic merged

 

Thanks for the feedback, but please keep in mind that restoring Tanki Online to a previous update is physically impossible for technical reasons.

Really? :O I didn't know that. Can't you just rewrite the code, though? 

 

I'm in no way implying that TO should revert to previous updates, fyi.

[Maf 32,314]

Really? :o I didn't know that. Can't you just rewrite the code, though? 

 

I'm in no way implying that TO should revert to previous updates, fyi.

I don't know what exactly the problem is, but from what I've seen Hazel post on the forum - reverting Tanki to an older version isn't possible because that version is no longer supported. For example the Flash game engine which Tanki uses probably got a ton of major updates over the years and even if devs keep a backup version of the game's code somewhere, they won't be able to just replace the new code with it and bring back an older version because that version won't be compatible with the recent version of Flash, which every player uses. Maybe it's not exactly that, but the problem is along those lines.

[featwasath 267]

Topic merged

 

Thanks for the feedback, but please keep in mind that restoring Tanki Online to a previous update is physically impossible for technical reasons.

Ok :( 

[hi_its_me77432 10]

i don't like the new 2 minute pause because my game takes 3-4 minutes to load a battle or a game, so i can't play  :(

also, if i manage to join a battle, i usually don't have time to completely finish. i used to pause the game and still get my fund, but now it's harder with only 2 mins

 

 

i have been using wasp as my main hull along with railgun since i started tanki

i have them both m2 currently. i don't really like the acceleration speed of wasp after the update. i can no longer juke opponents in xp/bp.

the decrease in wasp's speed i don't mind. 

 

 

not a complaint,but when is the rocket launcher and the m0 and m3 alterations gonna come out?

 

 

please reply thx :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)

[Ninox 356]

Hi Dears

 

I think this good idea if you delete smart drug and full drug  with a time and flags from pro battles because the players don't play it  they only play XP and without drug in pro battles ! and you can see it everyday in any server on TO

 

For example no one play full drug when tanki add this in pro battles and now they don't play smart drug with 30 - 60 min only 15 this is bad we need a fun in tanki online with take over games with a friends and play a lot

 

To make the game more enthusiastic and give pleasure to each player in Tanki 

I hope that you will take my words to the importance of the presence of players in Tanki and easier access to play in the battles 

 

Example 

 

 

 

 

There will be variety in the Battles and allowed opportunities for players that play a lot and enjoy and will not bored you can feel that you add this update and see together how it will be the enthusiasm and excitement in the game more than previously

 

I hope that the management of the game to discuss in this update again , THANK YOU !

Edited November 20, 2016 by Ninox

[L.H.F.H 922]

 

Hi Dears

 

I think this good idea if you delete smart drug and full drug  with a time and flags from pro battles because the players don't play it  they only play XP and without drug in pro battles ! and you can see it everyday in any server on TO

 

For example no one play full drug when tanki add this in pro battles and now they don't play smart drug with 30 - 60 min only 15 this is bad we need a fun in tanki online with take over games with a friends and play a lot

 

To make the game more enthusiastic and give pleasure to each player in Tanki 

I hope that you will take my words to the importance of the presence of players in Tanki and easier access to play in the battles 

 

Example 

 

 

 

 

There will be variety in the Battles and allowed opportunities for players that play a lot and enjoy and will not bored you can feel that you add this update and see together how it will be the enthusiasm and excitement in the game more than previously

 

I hope that the management of the game to discuss in this update again , THANK YOU !

 

really this is good 

we don't ask this Update 

we eant 60 mins and more 

 

[I.Mr.I 546]

 

 

Hi Dears

 

I think this good idea if you delete smart drug and full drug  with a time and flags from pro battles because the players don't play it  they only play XP and without drug in pro battles ! and you can see it everyday in any server on TO

 

For example no one play full drug when tanki add this in pro battles and now they don't play smart drug with 30 - 60 min only 15 this is bad we need a fun in tanki online with take over games with a friends and play a lot

 

To make the game more enthusiastic and give pleasure to each player in Tanki 

I hope that you will take my words to the importance of the presence of players in Tanki and easier access to play in the battles 

 

Example 

 

 

 

 

There will be variety in the Battles and allowed opportunities for players that play a lot and enjoy and will not bored you can feel that you add this update and see together how it will be the enthusiasm and excitement in the game more than previously

 

I hope that the management of the game to discuss in this update again , THANK YOU !

 

 

trueee

[F16.King 496]

Hi Dears

 

I think this good idea if you delete smart drug and full drug  with a time and flags from pro battles because the players don't play it  they only play XP and without drug in pro battles ! and you can see it everyday in any server on TO

 

For example no one play full drug when tanki add this in pro battles and now they don't play smart drug with 30 - 60 min only 15 this is bad we need a fun in tanki online with take over games with a friends and play a lot

 

To make the game more enthusiastic and give pleasure to each player in Tanki 

I hope that you will take my words to the importance of the presence of players in Tanki and easier access to play in the battles 

 

Example 

 

 

 

 

There will be variety in the Battles and allowed opportunities for players that play a lot and enjoy and will not bored you can feel that you add this update and see together how it will be the enthusiasm and excitement in the game more than previously

 

I hope that the management of the game to discuss in this update again , THANK YOU !

I agree with you 

[wolverine848 13,097]

I agree with you 

I've read it a few times and can't figure out what the request is.

 

Would you mind paraphrasing what you think the request above is?

[BOSE0000 12]

My account is BOSE0000, and my twins is not producing the Damage as expected. It has a damage of 201 per shot (M3, micro update 21/50), BUT I only get 180 or 190. I have checked the damage with many enemy tanks with no twins protection at very close range. Please Help Me........

[SwiftSmoky 8,445]

2 minutes of inactivity to get kicked out of battles? Sounds good to me but maybe make it 3 cause I've heard players complaining about having to hurry up when going to pee or something...

 

But for parkourists this short time limit is really bad. Honestly, even 5 minutes inactivity kick was causing a lot of trouble when using tank structures (such as elevators) because the tanks that don't have to move (or in some rare cases even have to not move) get kicked for inactivity while waiting for everyone to be ready or for the next jump attempt. We keep reminding players to move their tracks while flipped sideways but it's enough for one player to forget to move in time at some point and we have to re-build the structure.

 

This was a problem with 5 minute inactivity kick, with 2 minutes it got worse and we also started getting kicked while chatting. In parkour battles it's not all parkour all the time, there are moments of just chatting for a long time to plan a trick or a video or just talking about something else... I did see this happening rarely with 5 minute inactivity kick too, but with 2 minutes it happens a few times a day.

 

oh and just yesterday I had a player recording my team doing parkour from fake spec, and he needed not to move for a while to make the video look good and he was getting kicked a few times while recording :\

 

So plz plz plz make a 10 minute cooldown for parkour games, it'll be great! :D

Edited November 25, 2016 by SwiftSmoky

[cube3e 1,973]

So plz plz plz make a 10 minute cooldown for parkour games, it'll be great! :D

I agree! You'd make a great TO developer, coming up with all the stuff people actually want to hear for once! :D Edited November 25, 2016 by cube3e

[BLASTER872 1,892]

Greed has ruined a fun game.

 

I have come here 3 TIMES IN LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MONTH to tell Tanki they messed up, bigtime. Obviously... nobody listens.

At least nobody that can make a difference (I mean the devs of greed)

 

So I'll make an argument and I'll supply some "non-buyers can still play the game" counter-arguments. (It's not hard -- they keep saying the same things in a different way..)

 

Alright, here we go! (This is for entertainment purposes and because I'm mad at Tanki rn so yeah)

 

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White is me, Green is any counterargument (green for money DUH)

 

You CANNOT enjoy this game without buying.

 

Save up for kits, blah blah blah [insert boring save-up speech here]

 

Enjoyable? Saving up for decades with nothing interesting to do for this game?

 

What else are you gonna do? BUY?

 

I will NOT buy a product that will not belong to me. Listen, if I buy a lamp, this lamp will forever be mine. Right? If I buy crystals, Tanki will MESS UP their game and oops! Thunder M3 fully MUed doesn't exist anymore! MUs have been disabled for M3s, sorry noob!

 

Sheesh, you hypocrite! How did YOU, a non-buyer, save up for an OP kit that buyers dream of! Arrogantly acts as though their excuse of an argument wins over mine

 

Hmm... It did use to be enjoyable. I used to enjoy Tanki, grind, and love the game. I was thankful I got my Bulldozer Kit on Tanker's Day. I was randomly shooting tanks and destroying in DM, capturing 10 flags in 5 minutes in CTFs, living the enjoyable non-buyer life.

 

And then, Tanki went downhill FAST. They went downhill the SECOND they introduced their excuse of a rebalance to the game. My Twins were messed over. I was lucky Thunder was buffed. Many accounts were ruined forever, and the already weak Isida got a nerf, OP Smoky became OP OVER 9000, Viking became a toy...

 

I never thought the developers would do something like this. To make battles, you need PRO. To make a profit out of PRO pass, you need to grind. And now, the excuse of a game the devs have created make grinding the last thing I want to do.

 

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Kudos Tanki, I'm out.

 

You don't care about this little non-buyer? Look. The buyers ARE ALSO COMPLAINING. Big buyers. Small buyers. Non-buyers. Everyone but YOU know how much you messed up your game. Do you even play THIS GAME?

[duzagh 18]

i am buying kits in tanki.
i live in pakistan and there is no rupe option what should i do??

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

My account is BOSE0000, and my twins is not producing the Damage as expected. It has a damage of 201 per shot (M3, micro update 21/50), BUT I only get 180 or 190. I have checked the damage with many enemy tanks with no twins protection at very close range. Please Help Me........

Twins doesn't always do it's max damage, but a random value between the min and max damage, if within full damage range.  If out of full damage range the average damage will decrease.  For example, m4 twins (within 20 meters) has a max damage of 220 and a minimum damage of 190, so on average m4 twins will do 205 hp. It is also a bell-curved aligned to the center, so the center values are more likely.  

 

P.S. There's some excellent descriptions of this in "Game Balance Visuals and Stats". :) Blackwasp has some charts that show it.

[sm0ky 92]

The Pause option timer should be separated from the Inactivity clock.

[jupitersspot 12]

In the "Shop" I am routinely offered an introductory item: a $3.99 package that includes 30,000 crystals, 7 day Pro Pass, and 20 of each supply.  Someone has written code to offer me an item for sale.

 

However, when I click on the package to buy, I see a message indicating that if I "buy" this item, I won't actually get what's advertised:

 

 

If you can figure out when I'm trying to buy it that I already bought it, you can figure that out when you're creating the list of items for me to buy.  Don't offer me something I cannot buy.

[jupitersspot 12]

Topic merged

 

Thanks for the feedback, but please keep in mind that restoring Tanki Online to a previous update is physically impossible for technical reasons.

Unless the TO devs don't use version control -- and for God's sake, anyone coding for living will use source control -- this is absolute nonsense.  I get that they may not WANT to restore a previous version, but saying they CANNOT falls short of credibility. 

Edited November 30, 2016 by Maf
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[Maf 32,314]

 but saying they CANNOT falls short of credibility. 

They literally said it multiple times in forum posts and maybe even in video. You can accuse them of lying all you want, but I'm just conveying their message to the players.